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I hope you can provide reliable sources for the short story to show that it is notable. Paddy Simcox ( talk) 10:41, 5 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Anything by Frank Herbert is notable. Pmcalduff ( talk) 10:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC) reply
Well, perhaps you should just merge it to the book it was collected in? Paddy Simcox ( talk) 10:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Canvassing

FYI re: the student unions. TRAVELLINGCARI My story Tell me yours 18:34, 6 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Student Unions

I noticed your AfD for Associated Students of Arizona State University. I've been working on merging student union articles back to the main articles for the last few days. I am not canvassing, but I thought you might like to add your opinion to these merge proposals I just made. -- RedShiftPA ( talk) 04:52, 8 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Associated Students of the University of Washington‎
Washington University Student Union
Union of Students of the University of Alaska Anchorage‎
UMSL Student Government Association
Syracuse University & SUNY-ESF Student Association‎
Student Senators Council
Associated Students of the University of Missouri
Missouri Students Association
Georgetown University Student Association
Associated Students of the University of California‎
University of California Students Association
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Student Association of Missouri


Ok, I don't think we'll find and consensus on these merges. Is it time to resort to an AFD? I think so. Even if we do get a successful merge, it only takes 1 guy to undo the whole think. Thanks for the assistance, by the way. I usually edit for Pennsylvania political articles, and I just came across these student union articles by chance. I've already successfully merged like 4 into their respective main article, and just a few (like Wshington in STL) are throwing a fit. Anyways, thanks.-- RedShiftPA ( talk) 17:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Yeah, I see that there are a group of people who throw up "Oppose" for everything without any explanation (except that "wikipedia has no deadline", whatever that means). Still, I think I'm going to have to AFD it anyways, since I don't see any consensus ever coming from this discussion, and tempers are just getting inflamed.
Oh, yeah, apparently by posting on your talk page, we are sockpuppets: [1]. Ugh. I tried to diffuse the situation here: [2]. Who knows if it will work.
How does this sound as a rationale for merging at the upcoming AFD:
Proposed Merge to main article at Campus life at Washington University in St. Louis. Article about student government at Washington University in St. Louis. It makes no assertion of notability , cites no reliable, third-party sources (all 9 sources are from organization's website and university student newspaper) and contains Original Research (regarding history of student government, former board members, and list of accomplishments).

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AFDs

Hey, I decided to AFD most of the student government articles where my proposed merges were being contested. Thought you'd be interested. Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities/Deletion#16 March (AfD, CfD, TfD)-- RedShiftPA ( talk) 18:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Academic departments

Please do these as proposed merges into the relevant school or college. It's usually better than deletion, which will just end up with a long argument followed by a merge closing. I agree that almost none of them deserve individual articles, and I'd be glad to help you get rid of the ones PR people keep inserting. I have a good deal of experience in finding the apprpriate university people and persuading them to cooperate, It works in a friendly way about half the time. The other half of course, just go to afd if the merge is refused & we cant get consensus enough for it on the talk page. Please try it this way. If there are any pages around or that get submitted of this sort, please let me know, and I'll help with them. If you';d rather not work with me, Durvova is also pretty good at this. Persuasion is usually better--see WP:BFAQ for an explanation of why. I continue to disagree with you bout some other topics, but there's no reason we cant work together on this. You might what to email me to discuss this further. (for the moment, Im going to see what I can do with the guy from UNC public health). DGG ( talk) 09:27, 23 March 2008 (UTC) reply

  • I mostly just put primarysources tags on them, because it is possible that they do have notability. But maybe you are right; typically people misunderstand and add more in-house sources, so a merge tag would be better. As long as the end result is the elimination of non-notable departments (and the unencyclopedic duplication of these schools' own webpages) I don't care. Paddy Simcox ( talk) 15:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Albino Squirrels

Hey, that is an amusing article, and definitely more notable than 99% of student governments. There's also the porn n chicken club from Yale, too. -- RedShiftPA ( talk) 13:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC) reply

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Welcome!

Hello, Paddy Simcox, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! (I saw that no one welcomed you, so here you go.) Ten Pound Hammer and his otters( Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 01:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC) reply

I hope you can provide reliable sources for the short story to show that it is notable. Paddy Simcox ( talk) 10:41, 5 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Anything by Frank Herbert is notable. Pmcalduff ( talk) 10:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC) reply
Well, perhaps you should just merge it to the book it was collected in? Paddy Simcox ( talk) 10:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Canvassing

FYI re: the student unions. TRAVELLINGCARI My story Tell me yours 18:34, 6 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Student Unions

I noticed your AfD for Associated Students of Arizona State University. I've been working on merging student union articles back to the main articles for the last few days. I am not canvassing, but I thought you might like to add your opinion to these merge proposals I just made. -- RedShiftPA ( talk) 04:52, 8 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Associated Students of the University of Washington‎
Washington University Student Union
Union of Students of the University of Alaska Anchorage‎
UMSL Student Government Association
Syracuse University & SUNY-ESF Student Association‎
Student Senators Council
Associated Students of the University of Missouri
Missouri Students Association
Georgetown University Student Association
Associated Students of the University of California‎
University of California Students Association
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Student Association of Missouri


Ok, I don't think we'll find and consensus on these merges. Is it time to resort to an AFD? I think so. Even if we do get a successful merge, it only takes 1 guy to undo the whole think. Thanks for the assistance, by the way. I usually edit for Pennsylvania political articles, and I just came across these student union articles by chance. I've already successfully merged like 4 into their respective main article, and just a few (like Wshington in STL) are throwing a fit. Anyways, thanks.-- RedShiftPA ( talk) 17:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Yeah, I see that there are a group of people who throw up "Oppose" for everything without any explanation (except that "wikipedia has no deadline", whatever that means). Still, I think I'm going to have to AFD it anyways, since I don't see any consensus ever coming from this discussion, and tempers are just getting inflamed.
Oh, yeah, apparently by posting on your talk page, we are sockpuppets: [1]. Ugh. I tried to diffuse the situation here: [2]. Who knows if it will work.
How does this sound as a rationale for merging at the upcoming AFD:
Proposed Merge to main article at Campus life at Washington University in St. Louis. Article about student government at Washington University in St. Louis. It makes no assertion of notability , cites no reliable, third-party sources (all 9 sources are from organization's website and university student newspaper) and contains Original Research (regarding history of student government, former board members, and list of accomplishments).

Cookie

AFDs

Hey, I decided to AFD most of the student government articles where my proposed merges were being contested. Thought you'd be interested. Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities/Deletion#16 March (AfD, CfD, TfD)-- RedShiftPA ( talk) 18:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Academic departments

Please do these as proposed merges into the relevant school or college. It's usually better than deletion, which will just end up with a long argument followed by a merge closing. I agree that almost none of them deserve individual articles, and I'd be glad to help you get rid of the ones PR people keep inserting. I have a good deal of experience in finding the apprpriate university people and persuading them to cooperate, It works in a friendly way about half the time. The other half of course, just go to afd if the merge is refused & we cant get consensus enough for it on the talk page. Please try it this way. If there are any pages around or that get submitted of this sort, please let me know, and I'll help with them. If you';d rather not work with me, Durvova is also pretty good at this. Persuasion is usually better--see WP:BFAQ for an explanation of why. I continue to disagree with you bout some other topics, but there's no reason we cant work together on this. You might what to email me to discuss this further. (for the moment, Im going to see what I can do with the guy from UNC public health). DGG ( talk) 09:27, 23 March 2008 (UTC) reply

  • I mostly just put primarysources tags on them, because it is possible that they do have notability. But maybe you are right; typically people misunderstand and add more in-house sources, so a merge tag would be better. As long as the end result is the elimination of non-notable departments (and the unencyclopedic duplication of these schools' own webpages) I don't care. Paddy Simcox ( talk) 15:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Albino Squirrels

Hey, that is an amusing article, and definitely more notable than 99% of student governments. There's also the porn n chicken club from Yale, too. -- RedShiftPA ( talk) 13:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC) reply

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 13:47, 24 November 2015 (UTC) reply


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