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Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Musashi miyamoto Reported by User:Weaponbb7 (Result:) here Weaponbb7 ( talk) 23:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
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A couple of points. First, Bold, Revert, Discuss. The onus is now on you to discuss your proposed changes on the article's Talk page and achieve consensus there.
Second, don't accuse administrators of vandalism. It has a tendency to come right back at you, especially when the people you're fighting with generally average more edits per hour than you have in your entire eleven years as a registered account. Guy ( Help!) 15:11, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Musashi miyamoto ( talk) 15:53, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as " edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.
If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose editing privileges. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a loss of editing privileges. Thank you..
In particular, there is not yet WP:CONSENSUS for these additions to the article: [1]. Regards, Rolf H Nelson ( talk) xx:xx, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
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Just a quick note, I've noticed that you have been saying that what Rolf is doing is 'vandalism'. Technically, according to wikipedia policy, it is not vandalism (though it is WP:tendentious editing and WP:edit warring). You probably should stop saying that he is doing vandalism, and consider striking out where you have used this wording previously (you can do this easily by using the strikethrough template).
Specifically: "content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism--from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Insert CleverPhrase Here 21:51, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Rolf H Nelson ( talk) 01:36, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
I am actually serious about the Daily Mail. I didn't understand when I first came to wikipedia, but have a read through that RfC that is open (even just the last few comments above yours). The Daily Mail outright fabricates content all the time in order to get a 'scoop'. IMO it is probably likely that they really did get the interview you are talking about, but then again, other outlets didn't get an interview, maybe the DM couldn't either and made the whole thing up. The problem is that 'probably' is not good enough when it comes to sourcing content for wikipedia, and the DM has a track record for making shit up, which makes it impossible to rely on their editorial oversight. You know me, I am not trying to attack the section you have worked hard on. If there is any material in that paragraph that is attributable only to the DM, I would very much appreciate if you could remove it. If, on the other hand, the other sources cover the material adequately as it stands, then we need not rely on the DM and are better off without it, as it negatively impacts the credibility of the section and article. Insert CleverPhrase Here 19:02, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Note that the Daily Mail RfC has closed, with the result that citations to the Daily Mail are generally prohibited from use as sources. Insert CleverPhrase Here 20:03, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Please try to keep an open mind, I am not saying there are not some editors who are ideologues that will edit with a singular POV regardless of the facts (there certainly are). However, it is important to listen to editors that have been around on wikipedia for a lot longer than yourself, and consider their words. I came to wikipedia with a similarly belligerent attitude as the one you have been displaying, and ended up with a year topic ban on cold fusion. I am not saying that you'll get topic banned necessarily, but you've already had one trip to ANI (which is a scary place to end up). You were lucky, on your trip to ANI you had a couple of experienced editors backing you up, and the Emdrive article is not under discretionary sanctions like cold fusion is, but if you keep acting with such a battleground attitude, you'll end up back there again, and a second trip to ANI is much worse than a first trip (the place can quickly become a kangaroo court). I'm not trying to warn you, or scare you, or any of that, but just trying to give some advice, one editor to another. Fringe articles are tough to edit in, as there are always polarized views. I like to jokingly say that I heavily apply Hanlon's razor to my dealings with other editors, though it is really only another way of saying to assume good faith. It is an important rule to learn, and if you want to be successful on wikipedia I would recommend that you carefully study that policy. Another suggestion if you want to become a better editor, move around the wiki a bit, read the policy pages; helping out at Requested Moves, Articles for Creation or at Articles for Deletion are great ways to get familiar with wikipedia policy quickly. I can see you being a very good editor, and I wish you the best, and would hate to see you get stepped on by the boot of WP bureaucracy. Insert CleverPhrase Here 23:16, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
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Please don't add links to popular science youtube links as you did here and here. This amounts to spam. Thanks. - DVdm ( talk) 10:19, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at List of unsolved problems in physics shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. - DVdm ( talk) 12:58, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Enough. These ridiculous demands made above are so outrageously out-of-step with editing rule or methods used here, that I have to question you lack of maturity - especially after read this "And why haven't you send such a warning to Arianewiki1, when he started this reverting, and is continuing to do this without any real reasonable reason whatoever, and does not start a thread on talk page, even though I requested that he do so?"
This is near WP:PA and is also avoiding WP:GF, especially as I DID explain why. Your own submitted edits did not give an reason at all and did not even give relevant cites to validate it. The first revert I said "Absolutely no explanation for these additions." [3] The second edit I reminded you " Use talkpage." [4] You just ignored that.
You seemingly have had issues with this thing before, especially on Galaxy rotation curve [5] Really. Saying "One proposal published in Astrophysics and Space Science assumes that inertia is due to the effect of horizons on Unruh radiation and predicts galaxy rotation simply and exactly without dark matter or adjustment." Yet now in [6] you claim: "* Inertia: What is the source and nature of inertia? Various efforts by notable physicists such as Ernst Mach (see Mach's principle), Albert Einstein, Dennis William Sciama, and Bernard Haisch have been put towards the study and theorizing of inertia, but still the mechanism causing its formation is unknown. The most recent theory of inertia known as quantised inertia by Mike McCulloch [7] is pending experimental confirmation." This is utterly silly, and was rightly reverted in early 2017. (This discussion on "Quantised Inertia" here confirms this. [8] ) So "...pending experimental confirmation." is smokescreen, and worst its addition here is more like WP:OR.
Here some odd-ball theoretical theory, means (according to you) that: " the source and nature of inertia" has now become some unsolved problems in physics. Stating "...but still the mechanism causing its formation is unknown" is obviously false.
Lastly [Ernst Mach]] , Albert Einstein, Dennis William Sciama, work on this is so long ago, much of their speculation has been surpassed. Especially noted in the article on Bernard Haisch it says: " In 2006 Haisch published a popular book in which he attempted to reconcile modern scientific belief with traditional religious belief." This exposes a possible underlying motive here? Eh?
Conclusion these revert were all valid. Arianewiki1 ( talk) 12:58, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Conclusion
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There was no 3RR, because consensus has been reached, Paradoctor agreed with that consensus, and nobody else, including DVDm, objected then to that consensus, therefore this was a new edit (and not a 3rd reverse), which included the sources as agreed in the consensus; if DVDm was still unhappy about the edit then he should have discussed that on the talk page without reverting my new edit, because he grossly violated WP:ROWN rules by reverting it. Also I am unable to continue discussion at the talk page or at the administrators' board when blocked, while DVDm is dishonest there (for example he says that allegedly "The sources do not say that these are unexplained problems in physics", while already in the first source added, in the first sentence of that source it is written: "The property of inertia has never been fully explained."). I kindly request that you unblock me, as there was no reason for blocking, and reprimend DVDm for grossly violating WP:ROWN rules and for being dishonest and malicious. Musashi miyamoto ( talk) 20:05, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Decline reason:
One, two, three, four. If multiple people are reverting you, there's obviously no consensus. Even if there were consensus, edit-warring to enforce it would still be inappropriate. See also WP:NOTTHEM. Huon ( talk) 21:07, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
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The reasons are given below in the two replies to user Huon. Also see my replies below to DVDm Musashi miyamoto ( talk) 6:59 pm, Today (UTC−5)
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Per agreement not to edit article for 48 hours. I strongly recommend you carefully read our edit warring policy NeilN talk to me 04:31, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Note: [10], [11] for which my apologies. - DVdm ( talk) 20:13, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Comment I think you could do worse than do what DVDdm does: try to get some distance. Leaving the content dispute entirely aside, calling fellow contributors "sadistic perverts" or "dishonest" is not a sign of being WP:COOL. I think I understand how you feel right now, so please let me assure you that, while nobody is perfect, editors generally try to do the right thing, DVdm included. If you want, I'll be glad to talk about this some more later, either here or at my place. Until then Paradoctor ( talk) 20:37, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Note regarding the reliability of some of the sources, see EdJohnston's comment [12]. - DVdm ( talk) 22:32, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
I will unblock you if you agree not to edit the article for 48 hours after you are unblocked (you may use the talk page). -- NeilN talk to me 03:59, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Musashi miyamoto: regarding your declared intention "'I'll wait for about 3 more days to allow possible rebuttals quoting reliable sources, and if nothing will change then I will assume that the consensus has been reached to make the edits.", I strongly recommend not doing that. If nothing will change, and nobody can (or wants to) convince you, that means that there is no consensus to do it. Ignoring that will probably make you end up blocked again, and likely for a longer time, if not indefinite. I think it would be best to get a clear consensus for a change, and then let someone else make the edit to the article. Just my 2 cents... - DVdm ( talk) 19:12, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Something like this, trying to get editors you expect share your point of view to weigh in and sway a discussion in your favor, is called canvassing and considered inappropriate. Please don't do it. If you think a discussion needs more input, you can leave a neutrally-worded statement at a relevant noticeboard such as WT:WikiProject Physics to get additional editors to weigh in. Huon ( talk) 20:28, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Musashi miyamoto Reported by User:Weaponbb7 (Result:) here Weaponbb7 ( talk) 23:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
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A couple of points. First, Bold, Revert, Discuss. The onus is now on you to discuss your proposed changes on the article's Talk page and achieve consensus there.
Second, don't accuse administrators of vandalism. It has a tendency to come right back at you, especially when the people you're fighting with generally average more edits per hour than you have in your entire eleven years as a registered account. Guy ( Help!) 15:11, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Musashi miyamoto ( talk) 15:53, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as " edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.
If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose editing privileges. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a loss of editing privileges. Thank you..
In particular, there is not yet WP:CONSENSUS for these additions to the article: [1]. Regards, Rolf H Nelson ( talk) xx:xx, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an
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try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Rolf H Nelson ( talk) 04:49, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Just a quick note, I've noticed that you have been saying that what Rolf is doing is 'vandalism'. Technically, according to wikipedia policy, it is not vandalism (though it is WP:tendentious editing and WP:edit warring). You probably should stop saying that he is doing vandalism, and consider striking out where you have used this wording previously (you can do this easily by using the strikethrough template).
Specifically: "content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism--from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Insert CleverPhrase Here 21:51, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Rolf H Nelson ( talk) 01:36, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
I am actually serious about the Daily Mail. I didn't understand when I first came to wikipedia, but have a read through that RfC that is open (even just the last few comments above yours). The Daily Mail outright fabricates content all the time in order to get a 'scoop'. IMO it is probably likely that they really did get the interview you are talking about, but then again, other outlets didn't get an interview, maybe the DM couldn't either and made the whole thing up. The problem is that 'probably' is not good enough when it comes to sourcing content for wikipedia, and the DM has a track record for making shit up, which makes it impossible to rely on their editorial oversight. You know me, I am not trying to attack the section you have worked hard on. If there is any material in that paragraph that is attributable only to the DM, I would very much appreciate if you could remove it. If, on the other hand, the other sources cover the material adequately as it stands, then we need not rely on the DM and are better off without it, as it negatively impacts the credibility of the section and article. Insert CleverPhrase Here 19:02, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Note that the Daily Mail RfC has closed, with the result that citations to the Daily Mail are generally prohibited from use as sources. Insert CleverPhrase Here 20:03, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Please try to keep an open mind, I am not saying there are not some editors who are ideologues that will edit with a singular POV regardless of the facts (there certainly are). However, it is important to listen to editors that have been around on wikipedia for a lot longer than yourself, and consider their words. I came to wikipedia with a similarly belligerent attitude as the one you have been displaying, and ended up with a year topic ban on cold fusion. I am not saying that you'll get topic banned necessarily, but you've already had one trip to ANI (which is a scary place to end up). You were lucky, on your trip to ANI you had a couple of experienced editors backing you up, and the Emdrive article is not under discretionary sanctions like cold fusion is, but if you keep acting with such a battleground attitude, you'll end up back there again, and a second trip to ANI is much worse than a first trip (the place can quickly become a kangaroo court). I'm not trying to warn you, or scare you, or any of that, but just trying to give some advice, one editor to another. Fringe articles are tough to edit in, as there are always polarized views. I like to jokingly say that I heavily apply Hanlon's razor to my dealings with other editors, though it is really only another way of saying to assume good faith. It is an important rule to learn, and if you want to be successful on wikipedia I would recommend that you carefully study that policy. Another suggestion if you want to become a better editor, move around the wiki a bit, read the policy pages; helping out at Requested Moves, Articles for Creation or at Articles for Deletion are great ways to get familiar with wikipedia policy quickly. I can see you being a very good editor, and I wish you the best, and would hate to see you get stepped on by the boot of WP bureaucracy. Insert CleverPhrase Here 23:16, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
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Please don't add links to popular science youtube links as you did here and here. This amounts to spam. Thanks. - DVdm ( talk) 10:19, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at List of unsolved problems in physics shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. - DVdm ( talk) 12:58, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Enough. These ridiculous demands made above are so outrageously out-of-step with editing rule or methods used here, that I have to question you lack of maturity - especially after read this "And why haven't you send such a warning to Arianewiki1, when he started this reverting, and is continuing to do this without any real reasonable reason whatoever, and does not start a thread on talk page, even though I requested that he do so?"
This is near WP:PA and is also avoiding WP:GF, especially as I DID explain why. Your own submitted edits did not give an reason at all and did not even give relevant cites to validate it. The first revert I said "Absolutely no explanation for these additions." [3] The second edit I reminded you " Use talkpage." [4] You just ignored that.
You seemingly have had issues with this thing before, especially on Galaxy rotation curve [5] Really. Saying "One proposal published in Astrophysics and Space Science assumes that inertia is due to the effect of horizons on Unruh radiation and predicts galaxy rotation simply and exactly without dark matter or adjustment." Yet now in [6] you claim: "* Inertia: What is the source and nature of inertia? Various efforts by notable physicists such as Ernst Mach (see Mach's principle), Albert Einstein, Dennis William Sciama, and Bernard Haisch have been put towards the study and theorizing of inertia, but still the mechanism causing its formation is unknown. The most recent theory of inertia known as quantised inertia by Mike McCulloch [7] is pending experimental confirmation." This is utterly silly, and was rightly reverted in early 2017. (This discussion on "Quantised Inertia" here confirms this. [8] ) So "...pending experimental confirmation." is smokescreen, and worst its addition here is more like WP:OR.
Here some odd-ball theoretical theory, means (according to you) that: " the source and nature of inertia" has now become some unsolved problems in physics. Stating "...but still the mechanism causing its formation is unknown" is obviously false.
Lastly [Ernst Mach]] , Albert Einstein, Dennis William Sciama, work on this is so long ago, much of their speculation has been surpassed. Especially noted in the article on Bernard Haisch it says: " In 2006 Haisch published a popular book in which he attempted to reconcile modern scientific belief with traditional religious belief." This exposes a possible underlying motive here? Eh?
Conclusion these revert were all valid. Arianewiki1 ( talk) 12:58, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Conclusion
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talk to me 19:31, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Musashi miyamoto ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
There was no 3RR, because consensus has been reached, Paradoctor agreed with that consensus, and nobody else, including DVDm, objected then to that consensus, therefore this was a new edit (and not a 3rd reverse), which included the sources as agreed in the consensus; if DVDm was still unhappy about the edit then he should have discussed that on the talk page without reverting my new edit, because he grossly violated WP:ROWN rules by reverting it. Also I am unable to continue discussion at the talk page or at the administrators' board when blocked, while DVDm is dishonest there (for example he says that allegedly "The sources do not say that these are unexplained problems in physics", while already in the first source added, in the first sentence of that source it is written: "The property of inertia has never been fully explained."). I kindly request that you unblock me, as there was no reason for blocking, and reprimend DVDm for grossly violating WP:ROWN rules and for being dishonest and malicious. Musashi miyamoto ( talk) 20:05, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Decline reason:
One, two, three, four. If multiple people are reverting you, there's obviously no consensus. Even if there were consensus, edit-warring to enforce it would still be inappropriate. See also WP:NOTTHEM. Huon ( talk) 21:07, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
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Musashi miyamoto ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
The reasons are given below in the two replies to user Huon. Also see my replies below to DVDm Musashi miyamoto ( talk) 6:59 pm, Today (UTC−5)
Accept reason:
Per agreement not to edit article for 48 hours. I strongly recommend you carefully read our edit warring policy NeilN talk to me 04:31, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Note: [10], [11] for which my apologies. - DVdm ( talk) 20:13, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Comment I think you could do worse than do what DVDdm does: try to get some distance. Leaving the content dispute entirely aside, calling fellow contributors "sadistic perverts" or "dishonest" is not a sign of being WP:COOL. I think I understand how you feel right now, so please let me assure you that, while nobody is perfect, editors generally try to do the right thing, DVdm included. If you want, I'll be glad to talk about this some more later, either here or at my place. Until then Paradoctor ( talk) 20:37, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Note regarding the reliability of some of the sources, see EdJohnston's comment [12]. - DVdm ( talk) 22:32, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
I will unblock you if you agree not to edit the article for 48 hours after you are unblocked (you may use the talk page). -- NeilN talk to me 03:59, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Musashi miyamoto: regarding your declared intention "'I'll wait for about 3 more days to allow possible rebuttals quoting reliable sources, and if nothing will change then I will assume that the consensus has been reached to make the edits.", I strongly recommend not doing that. If nothing will change, and nobody can (or wants to) convince you, that means that there is no consensus to do it. Ignoring that will probably make you end up blocked again, and likely for a longer time, if not indefinite. I think it would be best to get a clear consensus for a change, and then let someone else make the edit to the article. Just my 2 cents... - DVdm ( talk) 19:12, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Something like this, trying to get editors you expect share your point of view to weigh in and sway a discussion in your favor, is called canvassing and considered inappropriate. Please don't do it. If you think a discussion needs more input, you can leave a neutrally-worded statement at a relevant noticeboard such as WT:WikiProject Physics to get additional editors to weigh in. Huon ( talk) 20:28, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Arianewiki1 ( talk) 07:50, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
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Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you that sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.Questions of mainstream physics versus fringe theories fall under this arbitration case. EdJohnston ( talk) 22:29, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
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