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I found something very interesting that you may also like. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Uplift Universe, but in it, machines are considered a type of legitimate life form. I was reading an Uplift encyclopedia and came across this little gem:
Somewhat distinct from true "Machine" sapience is "Virtual" sapience. Virtual sapience is not specifically hardware dependent --it is, in fact, a computer program. Of course, the program requires a suitable hardware substrate, and manifestations of a given Virtual form may vary somewhat depending on the supporting hardware platform. However, speaking strictly, the hardware contains no inherent potential for sapience. After manufacture the machine will not learn on its own. Only after certain software program(s) are loaded will any sapient qualities become manifest. Indeed, if the sapient program is completely deleted and scrubbed, the hardware should support another member of the Virtual species equally well. As a rule, Virtual species can survive de-powering of hardware substrates if properly stored, and they can clone (copy) themselves or migrate from one platform to another. Also, provided a sufficiently sophisticated substrate is available, more than one (distinct) virtual sapience can "live" in one hardware substrate.
This is a perfect description of a persocom! This passage has a great deal of relevance to Freya's conversation with Hideki, when she tells him that the Chobits are not truly sentient. To put it in Uplift terms, they do not possess "true" machine sapience, but rather, "virtual" sapience. A persocom, even a Chobit, has no inherent potential for learning or consciousness. Only when they have some kind of operating software installed to any sapient qualities become manifest, as they put it. They can survive the powering down of their hardware (ep. 06 Chii Weakens) they can migrate from system to system (Freya's transfer to Chi) and in the case of a Chobit, two instances of virtual sapience can inhabit the same machine. Very cool.
It goes on to say that true machine sapience is present when the hardware itself is capable of generating consciousness without a separate software program. (A good example of true machine intelligence would be something like Commander Data, I suppose.) PiccoloNamek ( talk) 05:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Looking at the article for Chi, I've realized that it is mostly in-universe information. I'm trying to think of ways that (relevant) out-of-universe information could be added to the article. I know that lots of people cosplay as Chi at anime conventions, but the trouble with finding information on Chi's popularity is that links to reliable sources are very thin on the ground. Do you have any ideas on how we can incorporate out-of-universe information into the article? MelicansMatkin ( talk) 21:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I saw your edits just now to his talk page and I think it's worth you knowing, if you don't already, that this man claims to be GK's father. Given GK's playful response on SCF's talk page about him antagonising GK, it's more than likely true. asyndeton ( talk) 18:15, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. Regardless of who, what, when, where, or why who said what, I don't think neither Green Kirby nor Sukecchi should be worrying about each other. Your message alone brings to light an issue I have with this site. Apparantly, you've monitored both Green Kirby and Sukecchi's pages as well as mine, followed the dialouge, and actually took time to comment on my own page. Why would you care? You claim to know what I'm up to on this site and tell me I need to stick to edits, but your own actions suggest you interests lie elsewhere. This is consistant with dialouge I've witnissed since getting involved. The very people taking time to follow other people's contributions, or lack of, seem to spend much more time following percieved drama than those they're critizing. Someone suggested I'm Green Kirby's father: is that the type of contributions administrators are looking for? Who keeps up with that stuff? The advice I gave both Sukecchi and Green Kirby was dead on; perhaps you should read the material and focus less on where it came from or what my history is. That would give you more time to make the all important edits you keep referring to. Have a nice day. Street Cred Fred ( talk) 00:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I haven't done a very good job of communicating to you where I'm coming from, and wish you no ill will. I have reviewed your user page and discovered we share common interests. I was listening to U2 twenty years ago; I'm also an Athiest. The part of the world I live in (Bible Belt) does not look kindly upon people that lack Christian beliefs, so I keep it to myself. If you are a reader, and I suspect you are, you should read Michael Chabon's The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay and Jonathan Franzen's novel The Corrections. I am not a last word freak and only wish you the best of luck. I have backed away from support of Green Kirby because of maturity issues. In time, he'll be a valuable resource on this site. I look forward to your future contributions. Street Cred Fred ( talk) 16:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
I was randomly browsing U2-vertigo-tour and I saw all of the entries for The First Time. I think that there was an occassion where Bono performed the song solo during the Zooropa recording sessions, which isn't listed. IIRC, it was on Spanish radio although I'm not sure what the date was. I have the clip on my computer, and it's definitely an early perfroamce before tha lbum came out. Bono explains in between verses about some of the lyrics, and some of the lyrics are pretty different. What I find most interesting is that he sings the song in a higher scale, a la Lemon. Would you like me to send you the file? MelicansMatkin ( talk) 20:39, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed that since the GA nomination failed, you've been putting a lot of work into this article. I really have to commend your effort on this. It's looking much better already, and the sources have really improved. Keep up the good work! MelicansMatkin 20:41, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I've begun to create a list that includes all of the covers of U2 songs that I've been able to find. Could you do me a favour and look it over? I've only gotten through "40", the A's and the B's so far, but I would appreciate your feedback on the way it is structured so far. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 22:00, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that on Buizel, you removed what you said were unreliable and unofficial websites. In doing so, you removed links to Bulbapedia and Psypokes, but you left in Serebii.net. I'm curious as to why you left Serebii.net as an External Link, when it is just as unofficial as the others that you removed. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 16:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
That was no personal attack, it really is the truth! 216.166.78.9 ( talk) 03:00, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
For helping me out against such rude behavior , I award this Barnstar to Matkin 'buku! Sukecchi ( talk) 01:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC) |
Hi. I see that you've reverted my edit to this article again and you added a link beside rock. Well, but I can't find the link you've added. D@rk talk 10:59, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Whoops, must have been a mistake I made while on RCP. Sorry about that! :D Maser ( Talk!) 22:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
sorry about the edit war and thanks for fixing my page.-- DarkFierceDeityLink 18:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
I made a couple of format and clean-up changes to your userpage; I hope that is okay with you. However, please note that claiming an article or userpage to be protected (even your own) is generally a pretty serious thing to do and not allowed on Wikipedia. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 20:47, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
A new user, SPD has made the exact same edits to Pokemon Diamond and Pearl that V-Dash did back in November. By that I mean this new user keeps changing the genre from CRPG to RPG, and changing the number of species. I thought that I should bring this to your attention, given V-Dash's past history of trolling and sockpuppetry, as well as your experience in handling the situation with that user. It could be unrelated to V-Dash, but I certainly find it suspicious. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 22:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I was looking through all of my U2 songs on iTunes, and I realized that I actually have quite a few rarities of live performances. Would you like me to send you copies of some? Some that I think you may be interested in are:
Would you like any of them? MelicansMatkin ( talk) 23:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I have started a conduct RfC on V-Dash. Feel free to provide any evidence or diffs you may have. - Jéské ( Blah v^_^v) 22:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't vandalising the Bono article.I tried to improve. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.242.147.209 ( talk) 17:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Please talk to me on the Misty Talk page about my new ideas that don't break the rules WP:V, WP:OR, WP:NOT. I'm sorry that you seem to be annoyed about discussing this. I know you don't have to I'm not begging you to I just peoples opinions.
Thanks for doing that for me; I didn't have an opportunity to unblank it at school today, and as soon as I finished I had work. I just got off now, so thank you very much for unblanking them! MelicansMatkin ( talk) 04:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, could you clarify your position on adding YouTube links for music videos to the articles? I was under the impression that linking to YouTube violates Wikipedia policy, and I would like to know if I am wrong on this point. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 05:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm done with removing the Fate Unknown: Tauros part from the Brock article. Personally I believe that it belongs to Ash since Brock having a Tauros was never mentioned again after that episode, but since theres no proof that it's officially Ash's and you feel that strongly about it, I won't go any further with removing it from the page. 24.47.198.164 ( talk) 14:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Glad that one edit--unblanking a full, formerly featured article--makes me "appear to be engaged in an edit war". I mean no harm, but throwing a B.S. standardized (thankfully subst'd, though) "if you continue, you may be blocked from editing" line typically doesn't lend itself to a reasoned discussion. Just throwing that out there. Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 06:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Triceratops9, do not accuse of sockpuppetry without evidence. If need be you can file a checkuser request, but no unverified accusations please. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 04:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Pfft... -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 00:14, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Can you help keep an eye on 76.118.216.61 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) and revert this anon's vandalism? I don't know what (s)he has against me; this person keeps reverting all of my helpful edits on Ash Ketchum for basically nothing. Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 04:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for the trouble, but I did not wanted to be just a stupid advertising tool myself. It was not a real part of promotion, but I wanted to make people aware that there are websites with advanced information (a Pokedex), which can not be placed here. The whole website serves as a Pokedex, so I thought it was a good idea to add links to the pokemon species pages. Again, sorry for the trouble,
~remco~
PS. Why is a bulbapedia link allowed? That's just a link to another wiki? Not to some specific information... —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheUnknownCylon ( talk • contribs) 16:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to bother, but I thought Serebii.net was an official site, according to you it isn't. If this does indeed violate WP:FANSITE, then the links from the other pages, like Pikachu and Gary Oak to name a few, should be removed too. Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 17:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Template:Serebiidex has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — MelicansMatkin ( talk) 18:08, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Template:Omnidex has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 18:31, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I knew that this would come sooner or later. Thanks for removing the references to self-published sources. -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 06:32, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Eh? That wasn't sarcasm, that was resignation. Someone (was it you?) told me several months ago about WP:SPS. But I just don't like removing references. -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 00:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 01:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Someone vandalised your user page, but I dont know how to revert 67.70.39.18 ( talk) 03:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Chii is actually a crossover character in Tsubasa Chronicles. I've seen screenshots of it. Many CLAMP characters make cameo appearances in Tsubasa. PiccoloNamek ( talk) 16:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
DeathMark ( talk · contribs) seems to be another incarnation of V-Dash ( talk · contribs) and is attacking Advance Wars: Days of Ruin. Mind keeping an eye on him until the new RFCU finishes? - Jéské ( Blah v^_^v) 00:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
COMBO BREAKERWhat happened now? I mean, yeah, I know now...but still. Wow. .-. - Sukecchi ( talk) 04:02, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Would you like me to keep on eye on this user's contributions, given the similarities between the user and V-Dash? MelicansMatkin ( talk) 19:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for replacing my crude usage of the reference markup with a proper cite template. Is there any page on Wikipedia which lists down all the ways to use the cite template? -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 00:26, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Diligence | ||
I award you this Barnstar for your tireless efforts maintaining and verifying so many U2 articles – particularly all those songs. It’s not gone unnoticed and it makes a huge difference – I don’t have to bother opening to check when I see your name against those articles in my watch list. "Noice" -- Merbabu ( talk) 05:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC) |
I'm kinda new to the whole editing thing, but I have been trying to make people visiting the U2 Wikipedia page aware that Bono does more than just sing and play guitar; he is also a noted harmonica player. However, each time I simply try to add "harmonica" to: "Bono (vocals and guitar)", someone repeatedly edits it out. I don't think this is a case of a well-formed sentence or a dispute over how the statement sounds, as I'm just adding an additional attribute Bono has to a list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.7.241.92 ( talk) 04:03, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Regardless of the "consensus" with a few random people, if you read what I wrote, Bono probably plays the harmonica more often than he does guitar. It's an important part of songs, such as Running to Stand Still, Desire, Angel of Harlem (on the Vertigo Tour), among others that I can't think of off the top of my head. I don't see what the problem is with adding simply one word to give people a better description of what Bono can do, more than just sing and occasionally play a guitar (that no one can ever hear anyway). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.7.241.92 ( talk) 18:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, using your argument then, you should also remove that The Edge plays piano, as he only does so on October, New Year's Day, Running to Stand Still, and (only on tour) Miss Sarajevo and Original of the Species (the few times that it was played). If you only want to give each band members' main contributions musically, then I insist that we remove the fact that The Edge plays the piano. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.7.241.92 ( talk) 23:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Honestly, I'd appreciate it if all of you "uber-editors" would get down off of your soapboxes for a minute and see the crux of the issue here. You seem to contradict yourself saying, noting that the harmonica is not a main part of Bono's so-called repertoire, then we should discount his guitar playing, as well. I'm also confused whether we're talking about when U2 is on tour or strictly album versions of songs. If the touring is the case, shouldn't we include that Bono plays the drums, too since he did so every night on the Vertigo Tour during "Love and Peace or Else"? Or, even more, should we include that Larry is a vocalist, since he sang several acapella songs on the ZooTV Tour and every night on the Vertigo Tour to "Love and Peace or Else" and "Miracle Drug"? Or that The Edge is probably a more proficient bass player than most, as he has played bass on every rendition of "40" since its beginnings? Or how about Bono singing backing vocals on "Seconds"? Adam Clayton has also been shown to sing backing vocals, especially during the War Tour. My point is this: while some things may appear to be irrelevant, your reasoning behind the exclusion of the harmonica and inclusion of other things is inconsistent. If you are basing your actions on simply how many times one of the band members plays a certain instrument, then all of the above examples should apply. In regards to Bono's "guitar playing" on apparently tons of songs, in your opinion (although again, I am not sure if you mean solely album versions...if this is so, how can you distinguish?...or live versions), his guitar is virtually never on in the first place, questioning his ability to play it well enough in the first place. The only times it can really be heard off the top of my head are Unchained Melody from ZooTV, One during Vertigo Tour, some versions of The Fly...basically only added snippets of songs after all the other sounds have been turned down/stopped being played. Regardless of how many songs The Edge plays on piano, it is not his main ability, if that is indeed the purpose of the intro section, which I am coming to believe it is. Again, here lies the disconnect. The Edge's featured musical ability is really only two things based on the logic of you editors: vocals and guitar. Bono should merely be lead vocals or add ONE WORD to his introduction, however much that may pain the Wikipedia community. If you actually weigh what I've said rather than simply dismiss it because you (and, admittedly, others) are obviously on a power trip, you would see where more information could be gained by the public in adding this detail of Bono's abilities. This is an online encyclopedia, correct? Then it should supply as much information as possible, especially when it comes to a section that is specifically made to describe each band members' abilities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.7.241.92 ( talk) 01:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Apparently he thinks you and I are one and the same.
So, a couple questions to determine our identities:
- Jéské ( Blah v^_^v) 05:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
MelicansMatkin ( talk) 05:08, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I would love to nominate it for WP:GAC review, however, it lacks reception data. The user Barnyard animals and I have found a few diffs, thought not 100% sure if they can apply. See them here. Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 22:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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“ | We're free to fly the crimson sky / The sun won't melt our wings tonight | ” |
— U2, Even Better Than The Real Thing |
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I found something very interesting that you may also like. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Uplift Universe, but in it, machines are considered a type of legitimate life form. I was reading an Uplift encyclopedia and came across this little gem:
Somewhat distinct from true "Machine" sapience is "Virtual" sapience. Virtual sapience is not specifically hardware dependent --it is, in fact, a computer program. Of course, the program requires a suitable hardware substrate, and manifestations of a given Virtual form may vary somewhat depending on the supporting hardware platform. However, speaking strictly, the hardware contains no inherent potential for sapience. After manufacture the machine will not learn on its own. Only after certain software program(s) are loaded will any sapient qualities become manifest. Indeed, if the sapient program is completely deleted and scrubbed, the hardware should support another member of the Virtual species equally well. As a rule, Virtual species can survive de-powering of hardware substrates if properly stored, and they can clone (copy) themselves or migrate from one platform to another. Also, provided a sufficiently sophisticated substrate is available, more than one (distinct) virtual sapience can "live" in one hardware substrate.
This is a perfect description of a persocom! This passage has a great deal of relevance to Freya's conversation with Hideki, when she tells him that the Chobits are not truly sentient. To put it in Uplift terms, they do not possess "true" machine sapience, but rather, "virtual" sapience. A persocom, even a Chobit, has no inherent potential for learning or consciousness. Only when they have some kind of operating software installed to any sapient qualities become manifest, as they put it. They can survive the powering down of their hardware (ep. 06 Chii Weakens) they can migrate from system to system (Freya's transfer to Chi) and in the case of a Chobit, two instances of virtual sapience can inhabit the same machine. Very cool.
It goes on to say that true machine sapience is present when the hardware itself is capable of generating consciousness without a separate software program. (A good example of true machine intelligence would be something like Commander Data, I suppose.) PiccoloNamek ( talk) 05:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Looking at the article for Chi, I've realized that it is mostly in-universe information. I'm trying to think of ways that (relevant) out-of-universe information could be added to the article. I know that lots of people cosplay as Chi at anime conventions, but the trouble with finding information on Chi's popularity is that links to reliable sources are very thin on the ground. Do you have any ideas on how we can incorporate out-of-universe information into the article? MelicansMatkin ( talk) 21:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I saw your edits just now to his talk page and I think it's worth you knowing, if you don't already, that this man claims to be GK's father. Given GK's playful response on SCF's talk page about him antagonising GK, it's more than likely true. asyndeton ( talk) 18:15, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. Regardless of who, what, when, where, or why who said what, I don't think neither Green Kirby nor Sukecchi should be worrying about each other. Your message alone brings to light an issue I have with this site. Apparantly, you've monitored both Green Kirby and Sukecchi's pages as well as mine, followed the dialouge, and actually took time to comment on my own page. Why would you care? You claim to know what I'm up to on this site and tell me I need to stick to edits, but your own actions suggest you interests lie elsewhere. This is consistant with dialouge I've witnissed since getting involved. The very people taking time to follow other people's contributions, or lack of, seem to spend much more time following percieved drama than those they're critizing. Someone suggested I'm Green Kirby's father: is that the type of contributions administrators are looking for? Who keeps up with that stuff? The advice I gave both Sukecchi and Green Kirby was dead on; perhaps you should read the material and focus less on where it came from or what my history is. That would give you more time to make the all important edits you keep referring to. Have a nice day. Street Cred Fred ( talk) 00:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I haven't done a very good job of communicating to you where I'm coming from, and wish you no ill will. I have reviewed your user page and discovered we share common interests. I was listening to U2 twenty years ago; I'm also an Athiest. The part of the world I live in (Bible Belt) does not look kindly upon people that lack Christian beliefs, so I keep it to myself. If you are a reader, and I suspect you are, you should read Michael Chabon's The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay and Jonathan Franzen's novel The Corrections. I am not a last word freak and only wish you the best of luck. I have backed away from support of Green Kirby because of maturity issues. In time, he'll be a valuable resource on this site. I look forward to your future contributions. Street Cred Fred ( talk) 16:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
I was randomly browsing U2-vertigo-tour and I saw all of the entries for The First Time. I think that there was an occassion where Bono performed the song solo during the Zooropa recording sessions, which isn't listed. IIRC, it was on Spanish radio although I'm not sure what the date was. I have the clip on my computer, and it's definitely an early perfroamce before tha lbum came out. Bono explains in between verses about some of the lyrics, and some of the lyrics are pretty different. What I find most interesting is that he sings the song in a higher scale, a la Lemon. Would you like me to send you the file? MelicansMatkin ( talk) 20:39, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed that since the GA nomination failed, you've been putting a lot of work into this article. I really have to commend your effort on this. It's looking much better already, and the sources have really improved. Keep up the good work! MelicansMatkin 20:41, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I've begun to create a list that includes all of the covers of U2 songs that I've been able to find. Could you do me a favour and look it over? I've only gotten through "40", the A's and the B's so far, but I would appreciate your feedback on the way it is structured so far. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 22:00, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that on Buizel, you removed what you said were unreliable and unofficial websites. In doing so, you removed links to Bulbapedia and Psypokes, but you left in Serebii.net. I'm curious as to why you left Serebii.net as an External Link, when it is just as unofficial as the others that you removed. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 16:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
That was no personal attack, it really is the truth! 216.166.78.9 ( talk) 03:00, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
For helping me out against such rude behavior , I award this Barnstar to Matkin 'buku! Sukecchi ( talk) 01:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC) |
Hi. I see that you've reverted my edit to this article again and you added a link beside rock. Well, but I can't find the link you've added. D@rk talk 10:59, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Whoops, must have been a mistake I made while on RCP. Sorry about that! :D Maser ( Talk!) 22:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
sorry about the edit war and thanks for fixing my page.-- DarkFierceDeityLink 18:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
I made a couple of format and clean-up changes to your userpage; I hope that is okay with you. However, please note that claiming an article or userpage to be protected (even your own) is generally a pretty serious thing to do and not allowed on Wikipedia. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 20:47, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
A new user, SPD has made the exact same edits to Pokemon Diamond and Pearl that V-Dash did back in November. By that I mean this new user keeps changing the genre from CRPG to RPG, and changing the number of species. I thought that I should bring this to your attention, given V-Dash's past history of trolling and sockpuppetry, as well as your experience in handling the situation with that user. It could be unrelated to V-Dash, but I certainly find it suspicious. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 22:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I was looking through all of my U2 songs on iTunes, and I realized that I actually have quite a few rarities of live performances. Would you like me to send you copies of some? Some that I think you may be interested in are:
Would you like any of them? MelicansMatkin ( talk) 23:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I have started a conduct RfC on V-Dash. Feel free to provide any evidence or diffs you may have. - Jéské ( Blah v^_^v) 22:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't vandalising the Bono article.I tried to improve. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.242.147.209 ( talk) 17:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Please talk to me on the Misty Talk page about my new ideas that don't break the rules WP:V, WP:OR, WP:NOT. I'm sorry that you seem to be annoyed about discussing this. I know you don't have to I'm not begging you to I just peoples opinions.
Thanks for doing that for me; I didn't have an opportunity to unblank it at school today, and as soon as I finished I had work. I just got off now, so thank you very much for unblanking them! MelicansMatkin ( talk) 04:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, could you clarify your position on adding YouTube links for music videos to the articles? I was under the impression that linking to YouTube violates Wikipedia policy, and I would like to know if I am wrong on this point. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 05:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm done with removing the Fate Unknown: Tauros part from the Brock article. Personally I believe that it belongs to Ash since Brock having a Tauros was never mentioned again after that episode, but since theres no proof that it's officially Ash's and you feel that strongly about it, I won't go any further with removing it from the page. 24.47.198.164 ( talk) 14:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Glad that one edit--unblanking a full, formerly featured article--makes me "appear to be engaged in an edit war". I mean no harm, but throwing a B.S. standardized (thankfully subst'd, though) "if you continue, you may be blocked from editing" line typically doesn't lend itself to a reasoned discussion. Just throwing that out there. Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 06:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Triceratops9, do not accuse of sockpuppetry without evidence. If need be you can file a checkuser request, but no unverified accusations please. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 04:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Pfft... -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 00:14, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Can you help keep an eye on 76.118.216.61 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) and revert this anon's vandalism? I don't know what (s)he has against me; this person keeps reverting all of my helpful edits on Ash Ketchum for basically nothing. Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 04:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for the trouble, but I did not wanted to be just a stupid advertising tool myself. It was not a real part of promotion, but I wanted to make people aware that there are websites with advanced information (a Pokedex), which can not be placed here. The whole website serves as a Pokedex, so I thought it was a good idea to add links to the pokemon species pages. Again, sorry for the trouble,
~remco~
PS. Why is a bulbapedia link allowed? That's just a link to another wiki? Not to some specific information... —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheUnknownCylon ( talk • contribs) 16:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to bother, but I thought Serebii.net was an official site, according to you it isn't. If this does indeed violate WP:FANSITE, then the links from the other pages, like Pikachu and Gary Oak to name a few, should be removed too. Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 17:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Template:Serebiidex has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — MelicansMatkin ( talk) 18:08, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Template:Omnidex has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 18:31, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I knew that this would come sooner or later. Thanks for removing the references to self-published sources. -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 06:32, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Eh? That wasn't sarcasm, that was resignation. Someone (was it you?) told me several months ago about WP:SPS. But I just don't like removing references. -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 00:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 01:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Someone vandalised your user page, but I dont know how to revert 67.70.39.18 ( talk) 03:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Chii is actually a crossover character in Tsubasa Chronicles. I've seen screenshots of it. Many CLAMP characters make cameo appearances in Tsubasa. PiccoloNamek ( talk) 16:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
DeathMark ( talk · contribs) seems to be another incarnation of V-Dash ( talk · contribs) and is attacking Advance Wars: Days of Ruin. Mind keeping an eye on him until the new RFCU finishes? - Jéské ( Blah v^_^v) 00:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
COMBO BREAKERWhat happened now? I mean, yeah, I know now...but still. Wow. .-. - Sukecchi ( talk) 04:02, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Would you like me to keep on eye on this user's contributions, given the similarities between the user and V-Dash? MelicansMatkin ( talk) 19:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for replacing my crude usage of the reference markup with a proper cite template. Is there any page on Wikipedia which lists down all the ways to use the cite template? -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 00:26, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Diligence | ||
I award you this Barnstar for your tireless efforts maintaining and verifying so many U2 articles – particularly all those songs. It’s not gone unnoticed and it makes a huge difference – I don’t have to bother opening to check when I see your name against those articles in my watch list. "Noice" -- Merbabu ( talk) 05:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC) |
I'm kinda new to the whole editing thing, but I have been trying to make people visiting the U2 Wikipedia page aware that Bono does more than just sing and play guitar; he is also a noted harmonica player. However, each time I simply try to add "harmonica" to: "Bono (vocals and guitar)", someone repeatedly edits it out. I don't think this is a case of a well-formed sentence or a dispute over how the statement sounds, as I'm just adding an additional attribute Bono has to a list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.7.241.92 ( talk) 04:03, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Regardless of the "consensus" with a few random people, if you read what I wrote, Bono probably plays the harmonica more often than he does guitar. It's an important part of songs, such as Running to Stand Still, Desire, Angel of Harlem (on the Vertigo Tour), among others that I can't think of off the top of my head. I don't see what the problem is with adding simply one word to give people a better description of what Bono can do, more than just sing and occasionally play a guitar (that no one can ever hear anyway). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.7.241.92 ( talk) 18:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, using your argument then, you should also remove that The Edge plays piano, as he only does so on October, New Year's Day, Running to Stand Still, and (only on tour) Miss Sarajevo and Original of the Species (the few times that it was played). If you only want to give each band members' main contributions musically, then I insist that we remove the fact that The Edge plays the piano. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.7.241.92 ( talk) 23:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Honestly, I'd appreciate it if all of you "uber-editors" would get down off of your soapboxes for a minute and see the crux of the issue here. You seem to contradict yourself saying, noting that the harmonica is not a main part of Bono's so-called repertoire, then we should discount his guitar playing, as well. I'm also confused whether we're talking about when U2 is on tour or strictly album versions of songs. If the touring is the case, shouldn't we include that Bono plays the drums, too since he did so every night on the Vertigo Tour during "Love and Peace or Else"? Or, even more, should we include that Larry is a vocalist, since he sang several acapella songs on the ZooTV Tour and every night on the Vertigo Tour to "Love and Peace or Else" and "Miracle Drug"? Or that The Edge is probably a more proficient bass player than most, as he has played bass on every rendition of "40" since its beginnings? Or how about Bono singing backing vocals on "Seconds"? Adam Clayton has also been shown to sing backing vocals, especially during the War Tour. My point is this: while some things may appear to be irrelevant, your reasoning behind the exclusion of the harmonica and inclusion of other things is inconsistent. If you are basing your actions on simply how many times one of the band members plays a certain instrument, then all of the above examples should apply. In regards to Bono's "guitar playing" on apparently tons of songs, in your opinion (although again, I am not sure if you mean solely album versions...if this is so, how can you distinguish?...or live versions), his guitar is virtually never on in the first place, questioning his ability to play it well enough in the first place. The only times it can really be heard off the top of my head are Unchained Melody from ZooTV, One during Vertigo Tour, some versions of The Fly...basically only added snippets of songs after all the other sounds have been turned down/stopped being played. Regardless of how many songs The Edge plays on piano, it is not his main ability, if that is indeed the purpose of the intro section, which I am coming to believe it is. Again, here lies the disconnect. The Edge's featured musical ability is really only two things based on the logic of you editors: vocals and guitar. Bono should merely be lead vocals or add ONE WORD to his introduction, however much that may pain the Wikipedia community. If you actually weigh what I've said rather than simply dismiss it because you (and, admittedly, others) are obviously on a power trip, you would see where more information could be gained by the public in adding this detail of Bono's abilities. This is an online encyclopedia, correct? Then it should supply as much information as possible, especially when it comes to a section that is specifically made to describe each band members' abilities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.7.241.92 ( talk) 01:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Apparently he thinks you and I are one and the same.
So, a couple questions to determine our identities:
- Jéské ( Blah v^_^v) 05:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
MelicansMatkin ( talk) 05:08, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I would love to nominate it for WP:GAC review, however, it lacks reception data. The user Barnyard animals and I have found a few diffs, thought not 100% sure if they can apply. See them here. Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 22:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
"This is the first Pokémon film to have legendary Pokémon appear in two films in a row". This isn't speculation stupid. If you don't like me insulting you then you shouldn't have done a stupid thing. Naruto134 00:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
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