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Can you explain this and how mature you think it is? These questions are in no way relevant to the project, his RfA, or anything that's happened during his time spent here at Wikipedia or any other WMF wiki. -- Charitwo talk 13:42, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Well done you for working that out :) Majorly ( talk) 16:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
LOL! -- Coppertwig ( talk) 17:30, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I'll certainly keep that diff in mind, glad to know what kind of person you really are. -- Charitwo talk 00:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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Just sock it for a while!

Just take a step back for a while. Either start a new account or use your sock for a while. It will all blow over soon enough. A Rather Hot Donkey Named Bob ( talk) 14:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, will do. Bye! Majorly ( talk) 14:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts

T. Roosevelt said something similar -

The credit is never given to the critic or to the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or to the man who says he could have done the deed better. The credit always belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is covered with dust and sweat; who strives valiantly; who makes mistakes again and again; who knows great enthusiasms, great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, and who, at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement.

You are in my thoughts. - Epousesquecido ( talk) 15:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

You probably know this already

but John, Ckatz, Qst, WJBScribe, even Ryan Postlethwaite... they're all reverting the anons and so forth because they care about you and respect you. Hope that helps... Hang in there. ++ Lar: t/ c 20:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, Majorly. It's a rough patch, but it'll get better. SirFozzie ( talk) 18:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for your interest in coming and being a part of a conversation! - I'm going to host a chit chat at 00.00 UTC March 26th (which is probably tomorrow for most - it's 8.00pm east coast US) - it'd be great if you can come along, and I've created a new 'confirmed' participants section at the wiki page, which it would be great if you could pop over and sign, if you are indeed available! - I hope so, and I look forward to chatting tomorrow! best, Privatemusings ( talk) 02:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Return

Hey, you're back. Just when I thought you had retired for good, looks like it was just a four day wikibreak. Nice to see you're back. Useight ( talk) 23:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually that was just a request from someone on IRC. I have not really returned (well I never left, just stopped editing). Majorly 00:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Welcome staying, then! I'm happy to see edits by you in any case. In reply to a message that's been archived: Getting along with others is an integral part of the wiki process. Having and using a sense of humour is an integral part of getting along with others. Therefore, having and using a sense of humour is an integral part of the wiki process. :-) -- Coppertwig ( talk) 00:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

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The "Prince/ss X of Wales" Issue

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Hello! I'm here to inform you that the Tzatziki Squad has begun a new collaboration, history of timekeeping devices. The goal for the article is Featured status. Please pitch in as much or as little as you can, we appreciate your help! Keilana| Parlez ici 21:15, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for expressing an interest in coming along to the next conversation - if you click above you'll see that we've confirmed a new date and time, and have also created a new 'confirmed participants' section (sorry about the extra hoops to jump through - but hopefully it'll help us figure out if 'everyone's here'!) - if you do happen to be free at the suggested time, that's great! - I'll create the 'room' about 30mins early, as usual, and please do pop in as soon as possible so we can iron out the inevitable technical problems in time for a prompt-ish start! thanks, and I look forward to chatting tomorrow! best, Privatemusings ( talk) 22:30, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Ssshhh!

Keep it quiet, or people will realize we're sockpuppets. Friday (talk) 19:55, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Weird...

Any clue what happened here? Metros ( talk) 12:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

No idea. All's well now though. Majorly ( talk) 12:46, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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  3. Collect a list of people with a contrary opinion.
  4. Find even *one* on the list of 22 to whom the announcement was sent.

This was canvassing, pure and simple. Also, please assume good faith in your edit summaries - I'm quite offended at your lack of it towards myself on this issue. Orderinchaos 13:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Neutral messages are not canvassing, regardless of who they were sent to. Majorly ( talk) 13:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I would suggest reading the "Votestacking" heading of the guideline - it does not say anything about wording. Orderinchaos 14:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

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RE Meetup

It might be possible, I don't think I'm doing anything that weekend. Thanks for notifying me. Walton One 16:22, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Darn. No chance. Can't clear my obligations. Gutted. Hopefully they'll be one on a Saturday I can make. The clock is ticking, post 31 August (ish) my weekends are going to be even more limited, so hopefully over the summer. Thanks again for the heads up. Pedro :  Chat  17:14, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

About Howrse

Hello, Marjorly. I would like to talk about rewriting the article "Howrse". It was first deleted, because "it is an article about a forum". Howrse is not a forum, but a computer game.Then, I saw that it was deleted again, because someone was sort of advertising the game. So, may I please rewrite the article? I have experience with writing articles about products or games (see Fly Fusion Pentop Computer, which was my first article.), without advertising them. I would be happy to write the article, since I know what Howrse is.-- Listen to your Princess, dear Wikipedians. ( talk) 21:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Please go ahead. Majorly ( talk) 21:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Userpage

Hi! Would you mind deleting my userpage history and just leaving the most recent version? Thank you! · Ty grrr... 16:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

 Done Majorly ( talk) 21:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

IRC died

When I tried to PM, IRC died on me. So I went ahead and did it with my best judgement at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Privatemusing_posting_for_banned_user. MBisanz talk 21:50, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Girlfriend

why do you continually revert the external link?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.253.90.43 ( talk) 22:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks

Thanks for your support in my RFA, that didn't quite make it and ended at 120/47/13. There was a ton of great advice there, that I'm going to go on. Maybe someday. If not, there are articles to write! Thanks for your support. Lawrence § t/ e 17:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Mark Speight

Wait-a-go for wheel-warring. Pray tell, what's the point in protecting a page if another admin's going to wade in and edit regardless? You should a) have contacted the protecting party first, and b) formed concensus on the talk page. I'm sorely tempted to go and revert your edit, but I'm not going to wheel-war myself. Edit even better - ignore the admins that have been dealing with it for the past eight hours, cut across them and unprotect. Well done you. Talk Islander 23:22, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Daily Express, Guardian, Independent, Scotsman, Daily Star are just some reliable news sources that state he has died. There's no need to keep the article fully protected until 9am tomorrow when it's clear it is him. I'm not going to wait until the Anome agrees to unprotect. The article needs updating, and keeping it fully protected is detrimental. Majorly ( talk) 23:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I think you'd benefit from re-reading WP:CIVIL - most of your recent posts on this matter have been anything but. I concede that you are correct, but hear me out. Please bear in mind that most of these links have appeared within the last half-hour (they are all dated Monday). For the past eight, it has been unconfirmed as to whether it was or wasn't Speight. Myself and Rodhullandemu have speant this time reverting countless attempts to add a bunch of details about his death that simply weren't true, or weren't confirmed, in an attempt to keep the article from violating BLP. For eight hours we work hard at this, and then another admin comes bounding in, is curt, and cuts right across us. In this case, you were right, but bloody hell it feels like a slap across the face. Why did I bother doing what I was doing for the past eight hours? You could seriously have handled this better - take a long hard look at the article on tact. Talk Islander 23:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Where was I not civil? Majorly ( talk) 23:40, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
*sigh* nowhere in particular. You're quite right. I'm just so, so angry right now that I cited it when I probably shouldn't - appologies. Your general style of writing, however, is definitely very curt, which is probably where I get the feeling from. You appear to be ignoring the majority of my points above - I maintain that your behaviour in this incident feels very much like a slap across the face. In effect you've completely ignored and failed to recognise the work that myself and other admins / experienced users have put into this article today, and you've just cut across us. You could have done it better. Talk Islander 23:46, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry if I made you feel that way. But the article needed updating. With more sources becoming available confirming it was Speight, it was problematic leaving the article locked. It's inaccurate to state he is alive when a ton of news sources say he's not. I appreciate the work you did earlier, but things can and do change fast on Wikipedia. It needed updating. Majorly ( talk) 23:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for sorting out the Mark Speight article as I have been arguing the same point as you for some time but unfortunately no admin status for me was not very advantageous on my part! -- Energizer07 ( talk) 23:34, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

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Can you explain this and how mature you think it is? These questions are in no way relevant to the project, his RfA, or anything that's happened during his time spent here at Wikipedia or any other WMF wiki. -- Charitwo talk 13:42, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Well done you for working that out :) Majorly ( talk) 16:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
LOL! -- Coppertwig ( talk) 17:30, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I'll certainly keep that diff in mind, glad to know what kind of person you really are. -- Charitwo talk 00:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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Just sock it for a while!

Just take a step back for a while. Either start a new account or use your sock for a while. It will all blow over soon enough. A Rather Hot Donkey Named Bob ( talk) 14:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, will do. Bye! Majorly ( talk) 14:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts

T. Roosevelt said something similar -

The credit is never given to the critic or to the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or to the man who says he could have done the deed better. The credit always belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is covered with dust and sweat; who strives valiantly; who makes mistakes again and again; who knows great enthusiasms, great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, and who, at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement.

You are in my thoughts. - Epousesquecido ( talk) 15:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

You probably know this already

but John, Ckatz, Qst, WJBScribe, even Ryan Postlethwaite... they're all reverting the anons and so forth because they care about you and respect you. Hope that helps... Hang in there. ++ Lar: t/ c 20:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, Majorly. It's a rough patch, but it'll get better. SirFozzie ( talk) 18:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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The Special Barnstar
Here's a free barnstar! I am feeling generous today and i'm giving you one just for fun! Hope you get better! Cream -- Cream ( talk) 19:42, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest in coming and being a part of a conversation! - I'm going to host a chit chat at 00.00 UTC March 26th (which is probably tomorrow for most - it's 8.00pm east coast US) - it'd be great if you can come along, and I've created a new 'confirmed' participants section at the wiki page, which it would be great if you could pop over and sign, if you are indeed available! - I hope so, and I look forward to chatting tomorrow! best, Privatemusings ( talk) 02:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Return

Hey, you're back. Just when I thought you had retired for good, looks like it was just a four day wikibreak. Nice to see you're back. Useight ( talk) 23:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually that was just a request from someone on IRC. I have not really returned (well I never left, just stopped editing). Majorly 00:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Welcome staying, then! I'm happy to see edits by you in any case. In reply to a message that's been archived: Getting along with others is an integral part of the wiki process. Having and using a sense of humour is an integral part of getting along with others. Therefore, having and using a sense of humour is an integral part of the wiki process. :-) -- Coppertwig ( talk) 00:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

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Deleted it. Majorly ( talk) 15:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Statutory notification

See this, please. TreasuryTag t c 13:12, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

The "Prince/ss X of Wales" Issue

Just thought I'd let you know that there's a discussion about the above at the WikiProject, and I'm inviting all of the members to join in D B D 13:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


New Tzatziki Squad collaboration!

Hello! I'm here to inform you that the Tzatziki Squad has begun a new collaboration, history of timekeeping devices. The goal for the article is Featured status. Please pitch in as much or as little as you can, we appreciate your help! Keilana| Parlez ici 21:15, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for expressing an interest in coming along to the next conversation - if you click above you'll see that we've confirmed a new date and time, and have also created a new 'confirmed participants' section (sorry about the extra hoops to jump through - but hopefully it'll help us figure out if 'everyone's here'!) - if you do happen to be free at the suggested time, that's great! - I'll create the 'room' about 30mins early, as usual, and please do pop in as soon as possible so we can iron out the inevitable technical problems in time for a prompt-ish start! thanks, and I look forward to chatting tomorrow! best, Privatemusings ( talk) 22:30, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Ssshhh!

Keep it quiet, or people will realize we're sockpuppets. Friday (talk) 19:55, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Weird...

Any clue what happened here? Metros ( talk) 12:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

No idea. All's well now though. Majorly ( talk) 12:46, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Canvassing

  1. Check the list of people it was sent to.
  2. Note their opinion at either the MfD or the current discussion.
  3. Collect a list of people with a contrary opinion.
  4. Find even *one* on the list of 22 to whom the announcement was sent.

This was canvassing, pure and simple. Also, please assume good faith in your edit summaries - I'm quite offended at your lack of it towards myself on this issue. Orderinchaos 13:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Neutral messages are not canvassing, regardless of who they were sent to. Majorly ( talk) 13:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I would suggest reading the "Votestacking" heading of the guideline - it does not say anything about wording. Orderinchaos 14:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

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RE Meetup

It might be possible, I don't think I'm doing anything that weekend. Thanks for notifying me. Walton One 16:22, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Darn. No chance. Can't clear my obligations. Gutted. Hopefully they'll be one on a Saturday I can make. The clock is ticking, post 31 August (ish) my weekends are going to be even more limited, so hopefully over the summer. Thanks again for the heads up. Pedro :  Chat  17:14, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

About Howrse

Hello, Marjorly. I would like to talk about rewriting the article "Howrse". It was first deleted, because "it is an article about a forum". Howrse is not a forum, but a computer game.Then, I saw that it was deleted again, because someone was sort of advertising the game. So, may I please rewrite the article? I have experience with writing articles about products or games (see Fly Fusion Pentop Computer, which was my first article.), without advertising them. I would be happy to write the article, since I know what Howrse is.-- Listen to your Princess, dear Wikipedians. ( talk) 21:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Please go ahead. Majorly ( talk) 21:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Userpage

Hi! Would you mind deleting my userpage history and just leaving the most recent version? Thank you! · Ty grrr... 16:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

 Done Majorly ( talk) 21:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

IRC died

When I tried to PM, IRC died on me. So I went ahead and did it with my best judgement at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Privatemusing_posting_for_banned_user. MBisanz talk 21:50, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Girlfriend

why do you continually revert the external link?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.253.90.43 ( talk) 22:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks

Thanks for your support in my RFA, that didn't quite make it and ended at 120/47/13. There was a ton of great advice there, that I'm going to go on. Maybe someday. If not, there are articles to write! Thanks for your support. Lawrence § t/ e 17:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Mark Speight

Wait-a-go for wheel-warring. Pray tell, what's the point in protecting a page if another admin's going to wade in and edit regardless? You should a) have contacted the protecting party first, and b) formed concensus on the talk page. I'm sorely tempted to go and revert your edit, but I'm not going to wheel-war myself. Edit even better - ignore the admins that have been dealing with it for the past eight hours, cut across them and unprotect. Well done you. Talk Islander 23:22, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Daily Express, Guardian, Independent, Scotsman, Daily Star are just some reliable news sources that state he has died. There's no need to keep the article fully protected until 9am tomorrow when it's clear it is him. I'm not going to wait until the Anome agrees to unprotect. The article needs updating, and keeping it fully protected is detrimental. Majorly ( talk) 23:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I think you'd benefit from re-reading WP:CIVIL - most of your recent posts on this matter have been anything but. I concede that you are correct, but hear me out. Please bear in mind that most of these links have appeared within the last half-hour (they are all dated Monday). For the past eight, it has been unconfirmed as to whether it was or wasn't Speight. Myself and Rodhullandemu have speant this time reverting countless attempts to add a bunch of details about his death that simply weren't true, or weren't confirmed, in an attempt to keep the article from violating BLP. For eight hours we work hard at this, and then another admin comes bounding in, is curt, and cuts right across us. In this case, you were right, but bloody hell it feels like a slap across the face. Why did I bother doing what I was doing for the past eight hours? You could seriously have handled this better - take a long hard look at the article on tact. Talk Islander 23:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Where was I not civil? Majorly ( talk) 23:40, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
*sigh* nowhere in particular. You're quite right. I'm just so, so angry right now that I cited it when I probably shouldn't - appologies. Your general style of writing, however, is definitely very curt, which is probably where I get the feeling from. You appear to be ignoring the majority of my points above - I maintain that your behaviour in this incident feels very much like a slap across the face. In effect you've completely ignored and failed to recognise the work that myself and other admins / experienced users have put into this article today, and you've just cut across us. You could have done it better. Talk Islander 23:46, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry if I made you feel that way. But the article needed updating. With more sources becoming available confirming it was Speight, it was problematic leaving the article locked. It's inaccurate to state he is alive when a ton of news sources say he's not. I appreciate the work you did earlier, but things can and do change fast on Wikipedia. It needed updating. Majorly ( talk) 23:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for sorting out the Mark Speight article as I have been arguing the same point as you for some time but unfortunately no admin status for me was not very advantageous on my part! -- Energizer07 ( talk) 23:34, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


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