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Happy editing! Tristario ( talk) 05:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Thank you---- Mahant Sonty ( talk) 05:27, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- genuine ravidass gurdwaras pictures , government notifications,indian census report, newspaper references has been provided for Ravidassia page....... Dev Mahey ( talk) 07:41, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- sources on sikhwiki is from books , newspapers and ravidass gurdwaras photos are genuine ......
- https://books.google.com.au/books?id=8TvnDwAAQBAJ&dq=ramdasia+caste+in+jammu&pg=PA64&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=ramdasia%20caste%20in%20jammu&f=false
- newspaper about similarities of ramdasia and ravidasias
- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/punjabs-dalit-conundrum-a-look-into-sikhs-caste-identity/articleshow/86607310.cms
- department of social justice , government of india 's website clearly reflecting that chamar, ravidasia andramdasia are same
-
https://socialjustice.gov.in/writereaddata/UploadFile/Scan-0015.jpg
Dev Mahey (
talk) 07:52, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Just a note: sikhwiki is not a reliable source - if the sources on it support what you want to include, you should directly use those sources. Sikhwiki is not a reliable source for the same reason that wikipedia is not a reliable source. Typically you should also rely on secondary sources, that indian government website is a primary source.
- I don't know anything about this topic but it seemed like a number of Mahant Sonty's changes were reasonable, and you just reverted all of them. This is all best discussed on the talk page of the article too - Talk:Ravidassia Tristario ( talk) 08:11, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Indian Government hasn't accepted ravidassia as religion but its accepted as a caste....
- not even single ravidass gurdwara in USA and England following Amritbani.....but they are following shri guru granth sahib.....
- list of gurdwara is genuine ,if you want then i can link all gurdwaras with google map location( that will be live proof)
- list of politicians are from those who contested on reserve seats and moreover their pages are live on Wikipedia with their caste references..
- civil servants all got appointed through scheduled caste reservation......, for many i attached newspaper references alongside sikhwiki references...
- Conclusion Ravidasia is not legitimate religion but its legally accepted as caste by Government of India..... Dev Mahey ( talk) 08:02, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia, Mahant Sonty. I see you know your way around. ;) El_C 19:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Please don't distort the page as its all with references. If you really want to improve it the please add something new about ramdasia army recruitment with genuine references and about hindu ramdasias who migrated from pakistan and currently livingg in kashmir , pathankot, gurdaspur and few families in jalandhar( Sialkotias)
- Regards Dev Mahey ( talk) 04:44, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
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I thought that Bachur Khokani should be known as hero. Mahant Sonty ( talk) 08:15, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.
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sorry, i really don't know why you blocked me, i do not use multiple accounts on Wikipedia, i want more better Wikipedia ----
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What i need to be unblocked. Mahant Sonty ( talk) 14:15, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
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what i need to be unlocked, i created pages with reliable sources but why you blocked me from editing. Mahant Sonty ( talk) 08:18, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
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Ok i will not make any edit who damage Wikipedia. Before creating anything i will consult with Wikipedia administrators or experienced users in talk pages and will make usefull edits. Believe me l, i have no evil mind.
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I think, this place is not for me bcoz here are control of dictatorship.
You Administrators saying to do good things on Wikipedia but i don't know what i did which damaged the Wikipedia. Mahant Sonty ( talk) 14:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
Hi Mahant Sonty! I noticed your contributions to Ravidassia and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. I hope you like it here and decide to stay.
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Happy editing! Tristario ( talk) 05:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Thank you---- Mahant Sonty ( talk) 05:27, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- genuine ravidass gurdwaras pictures , government notifications,indian census report, newspaper references has been provided for Ravidassia page....... Dev Mahey ( talk) 07:41, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- sources on sikhwiki is from books , newspapers and ravidass gurdwaras photos are genuine ......
- https://books.google.com.au/books?id=8TvnDwAAQBAJ&dq=ramdasia+caste+in+jammu&pg=PA64&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=ramdasia%20caste%20in%20jammu&f=false
- newspaper about similarities of ramdasia and ravidasias
- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/punjabs-dalit-conundrum-a-look-into-sikhs-caste-identity/articleshow/86607310.cms
- department of social justice , government of india 's website clearly reflecting that chamar, ravidasia andramdasia are same
-
https://socialjustice.gov.in/writereaddata/UploadFile/Scan-0015.jpg
Dev Mahey (
talk) 07:52, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Just a note: sikhwiki is not a reliable source - if the sources on it support what you want to include, you should directly use those sources. Sikhwiki is not a reliable source for the same reason that wikipedia is not a reliable source. Typically you should also rely on secondary sources, that indian government website is a primary source.
- I don't know anything about this topic but it seemed like a number of Mahant Sonty's changes were reasonable, and you just reverted all of them. This is all best discussed on the talk page of the article too - Talk:Ravidassia Tristario ( talk) 08:11, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Indian Government hasn't accepted ravidassia as religion but its accepted as a caste....
- not even single ravidass gurdwara in USA and England following Amritbani.....but they are following shri guru granth sahib.....
- list of gurdwara is genuine ,if you want then i can link all gurdwaras with google map location( that will be live proof)
- list of politicians are from those who contested on reserve seats and moreover their pages are live on Wikipedia with their caste references..
- civil servants all got appointed through scheduled caste reservation......, for many i attached newspaper references alongside sikhwiki references...
- Conclusion Ravidasia is not legitimate religion but its legally accepted as caste by Government of India..... Dev Mahey ( talk) 08:02, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia, Mahant Sonty. I see you know your way around. ;) El_C 19:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Please don't distort the page as its all with references. If you really want to improve it the please add something new about ramdasia army recruitment with genuine references and about hindu ramdasias who migrated from pakistan and currently livingg in kashmir , pathankot, gurdaspur and few families in jalandhar( Sialkotias)
- Regards Dev Mahey ( talk) 04:44, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Bachur Khokhani
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A tag has been placed on Bachur Khokhani requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://books.google.co.in/books?hl=nl&id=06cwDwAAQBAJ&dq=Bachur+Khokani&q=holford#v=snippet&q=holford&f=false. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Fram ( talk) 08:05, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
I thought that Bachur Khokani should be known as hero. Mahant Sonty ( talk) 08:15, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.
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sorry, i really don't know why you blocked me, i do not use multiple accounts on Wikipedia, i want more better Wikipedia ----
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We think you did. — Daniel Case ( talk) 06:29, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
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Mahant Sonty ( talk) 03:25, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
What i need to be unblocked. Mahant Sonty ( talk) 14:15, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
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what i need to be unlocked, i created pages with reliable sources but why you blocked me from editing. Mahant Sonty ( talk) 08:18, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
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Mahant Sonty ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
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Ok i will not make any edit who damage Wikipedia. Before creating anything i will consult with Wikipedia administrators or experienced users in talk pages and will make usefull edits. Believe me l, i have no evil mind.
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I think, this place is not for me bcoz here are control of dictatorship.
You Administrators saying to do good things on Wikipedia but i don't know what i did which damaged the Wikipedia. Mahant Sonty ( talk) 14:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC)