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Just for your information, consensus and majority doesn't rule on Wiki. - Signaleer 19:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
MONGO, you endorsed the indefblock of Cindery with reference to the four recent blocks. I'm the first to admit I haven't researched the case—no time—but I have a niggle of doubt. This is a little unusual, isn't it? I have an e-mail from the user also. If you have information which puts this indefblock out of doubt, would you mind sharing it? Best, Bishonen | talk 01:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC).
[1] (scroll to bottom, see "Look This Is Our Viewpoint") and [2] Sounds like a Cplot strawman. -- Aude ( talk) 19:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Talk:FrontPageMag.com#I_strongly_object_to_this_deletion up for deletion. Travb ( talk) 03:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
... for the userpage revert. Appreciated! :) riana_ dzasta 04:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I know this is probably going to do squat for my reputation now (Not that I ever really had one), but I thought I'd leave a note of apology to everyone involved in my recent actions. An explaination is in order too. First off, I had a bad real life situation, that I really don't want to talk about, on the day this all started. I shouldn't have edited on Wikipedia afterwards, but I did. When I saw the situation with Riana's RfA, it kind of set off a build up of unvented anger at my situation & it was un needed. My whole tyraid had very little to do with the RfA, but I guess I took it out on that angle anyway. The way I was handled could have been better, but I wont go there in threat of making this sound like a back handed apology. My apologies go to Riana, who was also having a real life crisis at the time too. Basically the whole thing was a misunderstanding & venting process which I involved you all in. In regard to the whole sock puppetry thing, I had told my brother about my problems in due trust & he went & did something stupid on here. I don't really know what else to say but sorry. If that & a little bit of hard work repairing relationships on here doesn't change your current view point of me, then I don't think anything will. So again, sorry if I've inconvenienced you guys in any way & I hope that over time you'll think better of me. I'd love if you guys could forgive & hopefully forget & I wasn't really in control of myself these past few days. Hopefully things can get back to normal. :) Spawn Man 06:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC) P.S. Although I didn't feel happy with the way others treated me at this time, I thought that despite my behaviour, were very civil & I respect you excessively...
Cplot would go wild with this one: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-02-12/More government editing. MortonDevonshire Yo · 22:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Dear Mongo, here we go again? It is one thing to oppose an edit, but it is another to characterize it as an "extreme POV push". What you removed here [3] is certainly no such thing. Consider the lead of the main article (to which a link remains): "The background history of the September 11, 2001 attacks includes US foreign policy with regard to predominantly Muslim countries and Israel in the latter part of the Cold War, the growth of radical Islamism, and prior terrorist attacks on the United States." Most of the summary I added came from this lead (again, this is standard practice). Moreover, it is also a pretty good summary of the material in the rest of the section in the 9/11 article. Though it could be improved in this regard. In the future, please explain what you think is wrong with edit, not the editor. Just out of politeness. Thanks.-- Thomas Basboll 14:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
As you can see from this post, Thomas Basboll has found your above message to be very threatening and it seems like that to me too. I'm sure you appreciate that intimidation of other editors is not tolerated, so your immediate withdrawal of these remarks and assurance that you have no intention of physically or in any other way intimidating him will clear the matter up. Failing this, I will have to act on the assumption that you do unfortunately wish to cause intimidation. Thanks in advance for sorting this matter out. Tyrenius 23:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia for making threats to other users; I'm specifically referring to this remark and the subsequent hostile responses to good-faith users approaching you to solve the dispute amicably. You will be able to edit again in 24 hours; I suggest you take this time to cool off and perhaps reflect upon the fact that Wikipedia is just a website and certainly nothing to threaten someone over. gaillimh Conas tá tú? 02:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Mongo, I don't for a minute believe that you meant that comment as a physical threat, but at the same time I think Tyrenius was acting in good faith in trying to calm things down, so for the sake of peace and harmony, it might be a good idea to reassure him that no harm was intended. He can let Thomas Basboll know if you don't want to contact the latter directly. That would put an end to the whole thing, so I hope you'll consider it. Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 05:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Outrageous...the blocking admin is obviously nuts if he saw my comment as a real personal threat...completely nuts! Basboll and I have had more than one heated exchanges over the past year..I have told him in the past to not bring content disputes to my talkpage..especially accusatory ones in which he tells me in finality to have a nice day...which in the context it was given, certainly was a "fuck you" for all basic purposes. Tyrenius is contacted by Basboll since he knows that Tyrenius and I had a major disagreement not so terribly long ago...hence, Tyrenius might be likely to respond to do his bidding for him. Tyrenius emailed Jimbo Wales and misrepresented that myself and several other editors were violating BLP... discussion here. Now I see what is certainly a comment by Lovelight that he'll whoop my ass above, yet nothing is done about this....excuse me while once aghin ponder why I should try and add on to my 28,000 edits, my 270+ stubs and articles I have created and my ongoing efforts to minimize conspiracy theory nonsese in our articles when I have a libellous block log sitting in front of me.-- MONGO 06:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, MONGO, I just wanted to thank you for your support on my RfA, which was successful with a final tally of 61/0/2. I'm glad you felt I could be trusted not to abuse the tools; I hope my conduct as an administrator will justify your thoughts. If you have any comments about my use of the tools I would be glad to hear from you on my talk page. Thanks again! Heimstern Läufer 06:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia as a result of your disruptive edits. You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our neutral point of view policy will not be tolerated.
Edits such as this one should be considered more carefully in the future.
brenneman 07:21, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
It's been a week since my recent request for adminship passed, and since I haven't managed to delete the Main Page - yet - I figure it's safe to send these out. Thanks a lot for participating in my RfA; I hope to do a good job. If you see me doing something wrong, need help, or just want to have a chat, please don't hesitate to drop by :) – riana_ dzasta 07:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, MONGO. I've been meaning to give you an apple turnover for some time. I know that a lot of people leave when things start getting unpleasant, and while I'd never want to put pressure on anyone to stay if it just meant more and more stress, I'm always sorry to see a redlinked userpage from someone I respect, or a "This user has left Wikipedia" notice.
So, here's one of my apple turnovers for you. It will keep you going if you get hungry during one of your blocks. By the way, do you think I should block Bishzilla? She's certainly guilty of "intimidation", and I'm not even sure I could say that her "threats of violence" are "thinly veiled"; they're not veiled at all!
Musical L
inguist 13:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
OOOHHH...look nummy! Tank you vary much for appel turnover! Much appreciated! Scary Bishzilla not know dis but MONGO having to go to reform admin school cuase me flunk out of regular school. -- MONGO 20:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Mongo, I removed your personal attacks on Crockspots talk page again in accordance with WP - please contact an admin before you choose to attack me again by reverting. - thanks. - FaAfA 00:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Wow, FAAFA made this cookie? Wow... Makes you wonder what his lemonaide stand looked like when he was a kid. ;-) JungleCat Shiny!/ Oohhh! 20:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Fairness And Accuracy For All, I think it would be best if you stayed off this page from now on. Harassing another editor is unacceptable. This also is not the first time I've seen you put an unsolicited nasty image on someone's userpage. Cut that out at once. Newyorkbrad 12:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, MONGO. Thanks very much for the barnstar. I had seen them on other users' pages, but hadn't expected to get one so soon. Nice to be noticed! Cheers. ElinorD (talk) 17:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
My request for adminship has closed successfully (79/0/1), so it appears that I am now an administrator. Thanks very much for your vote of confidence. If there's anything I can ever do to help, please don't hesitate to let me know. IrishGuy talk 03:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, do you know or can you find out, where the word parashant comes from? It was the name of a side canyon, then of a national forest, but what is the origin of the name? Is there a connection with Parsha from the jewish liturgy? I need it to explain the name of the NM in Arizona for my german language article. TIA -- h-stt !? 12:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for supporting my RfA. It was (47/0/0) upon closure and now phase I is complete. I think the tools will aid both me and the encyclopedia. Feel free to leave me a message on my talk page, or if you think I'm misbehaving I'm always open to recall. Thanks, James086 Talk 13:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Georgewilliamherbert (2). Much more of that and I will be campaigning for the return of your sysop bit. Oh wait, I already am... Guy ( Help!) 00:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Just for your information, consensus and majority doesn't rule on Wiki. - Signaleer 19:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
MONGO, you endorsed the indefblock of Cindery with reference to the four recent blocks. I'm the first to admit I haven't researched the case—no time—but I have a niggle of doubt. This is a little unusual, isn't it? I have an e-mail from the user also. If you have information which puts this indefblock out of doubt, would you mind sharing it? Best, Bishonen | talk 01:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC).
[1] (scroll to bottom, see "Look This Is Our Viewpoint") and [2] Sounds like a Cplot strawman. -- Aude ( talk) 19:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Talk:FrontPageMag.com#I_strongly_object_to_this_deletion up for deletion. Travb ( talk) 03:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
... for the userpage revert. Appreciated! :) riana_ dzasta 04:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I know this is probably going to do squat for my reputation now (Not that I ever really had one), but I thought I'd leave a note of apology to everyone involved in my recent actions. An explaination is in order too. First off, I had a bad real life situation, that I really don't want to talk about, on the day this all started. I shouldn't have edited on Wikipedia afterwards, but I did. When I saw the situation with Riana's RfA, it kind of set off a build up of unvented anger at my situation & it was un needed. My whole tyraid had very little to do with the RfA, but I guess I took it out on that angle anyway. The way I was handled could have been better, but I wont go there in threat of making this sound like a back handed apology. My apologies go to Riana, who was also having a real life crisis at the time too. Basically the whole thing was a misunderstanding & venting process which I involved you all in. In regard to the whole sock puppetry thing, I had told my brother about my problems in due trust & he went & did something stupid on here. I don't really know what else to say but sorry. If that & a little bit of hard work repairing relationships on here doesn't change your current view point of me, then I don't think anything will. So again, sorry if I've inconvenienced you guys in any way & I hope that over time you'll think better of me. I'd love if you guys could forgive & hopefully forget & I wasn't really in control of myself these past few days. Hopefully things can get back to normal. :) Spawn Man 06:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC) P.S. Although I didn't feel happy with the way others treated me at this time, I thought that despite my behaviour, were very civil & I respect you excessively...
Cplot would go wild with this one: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-02-12/More government editing. MortonDevonshire Yo · 22:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Dear Mongo, here we go again? It is one thing to oppose an edit, but it is another to characterize it as an "extreme POV push". What you removed here [3] is certainly no such thing. Consider the lead of the main article (to which a link remains): "The background history of the September 11, 2001 attacks includes US foreign policy with regard to predominantly Muslim countries and Israel in the latter part of the Cold War, the growth of radical Islamism, and prior terrorist attacks on the United States." Most of the summary I added came from this lead (again, this is standard practice). Moreover, it is also a pretty good summary of the material in the rest of the section in the 9/11 article. Though it could be improved in this regard. In the future, please explain what you think is wrong with edit, not the editor. Just out of politeness. Thanks.-- Thomas Basboll 14:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
As you can see from this post, Thomas Basboll has found your above message to be very threatening and it seems like that to me too. I'm sure you appreciate that intimidation of other editors is not tolerated, so your immediate withdrawal of these remarks and assurance that you have no intention of physically or in any other way intimidating him will clear the matter up. Failing this, I will have to act on the assumption that you do unfortunately wish to cause intimidation. Thanks in advance for sorting this matter out. Tyrenius 23:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia for making threats to other users; I'm specifically referring to this remark and the subsequent hostile responses to good-faith users approaching you to solve the dispute amicably. You will be able to edit again in 24 hours; I suggest you take this time to cool off and perhaps reflect upon the fact that Wikipedia is just a website and certainly nothing to threaten someone over. gaillimh Conas tá tú? 02:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Mongo, I don't for a minute believe that you meant that comment as a physical threat, but at the same time I think Tyrenius was acting in good faith in trying to calm things down, so for the sake of peace and harmony, it might be a good idea to reassure him that no harm was intended. He can let Thomas Basboll know if you don't want to contact the latter directly. That would put an end to the whole thing, so I hope you'll consider it. Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 05:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Outrageous...the blocking admin is obviously nuts if he saw my comment as a real personal threat...completely nuts! Basboll and I have had more than one heated exchanges over the past year..I have told him in the past to not bring content disputes to my talkpage..especially accusatory ones in which he tells me in finality to have a nice day...which in the context it was given, certainly was a "fuck you" for all basic purposes. Tyrenius is contacted by Basboll since he knows that Tyrenius and I had a major disagreement not so terribly long ago...hence, Tyrenius might be likely to respond to do his bidding for him. Tyrenius emailed Jimbo Wales and misrepresented that myself and several other editors were violating BLP... discussion here. Now I see what is certainly a comment by Lovelight that he'll whoop my ass above, yet nothing is done about this....excuse me while once aghin ponder why I should try and add on to my 28,000 edits, my 270+ stubs and articles I have created and my ongoing efforts to minimize conspiracy theory nonsese in our articles when I have a libellous block log sitting in front of me.-- MONGO 06:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, MONGO, I just wanted to thank you for your support on my RfA, which was successful with a final tally of 61/0/2. I'm glad you felt I could be trusted not to abuse the tools; I hope my conduct as an administrator will justify your thoughts. If you have any comments about my use of the tools I would be glad to hear from you on my talk page. Thanks again! Heimstern Läufer 06:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia as a result of your disruptive edits. You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our neutral point of view policy will not be tolerated.
Edits such as this one should be considered more carefully in the future.
brenneman 07:21, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
It's been a week since my recent request for adminship passed, and since I haven't managed to delete the Main Page - yet - I figure it's safe to send these out. Thanks a lot for participating in my RfA; I hope to do a good job. If you see me doing something wrong, need help, or just want to have a chat, please don't hesitate to drop by :) – riana_ dzasta 07:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, MONGO. I've been meaning to give you an apple turnover for some time. I know that a lot of people leave when things start getting unpleasant, and while I'd never want to put pressure on anyone to stay if it just meant more and more stress, I'm always sorry to see a redlinked userpage from someone I respect, or a "This user has left Wikipedia" notice.
So, here's one of my apple turnovers for you. It will keep you going if you get hungry during one of your blocks. By the way, do you think I should block Bishzilla? She's certainly guilty of "intimidation", and I'm not even sure I could say that her "threats of violence" are "thinly veiled"; they're not veiled at all!
Musical L
inguist 13:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
OOOHHH...look nummy! Tank you vary much for appel turnover! Much appreciated! Scary Bishzilla not know dis but MONGO having to go to reform admin school cuase me flunk out of regular school. -- MONGO 20:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Mongo, I removed your personal attacks on Crockspots talk page again in accordance with WP - please contact an admin before you choose to attack me again by reverting. - thanks. - FaAfA 00:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Wow, FAAFA made this cookie? Wow... Makes you wonder what his lemonaide stand looked like when he was a kid. ;-) JungleCat Shiny!/ Oohhh! 20:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Fairness And Accuracy For All, I think it would be best if you stayed off this page from now on. Harassing another editor is unacceptable. This also is not the first time I've seen you put an unsolicited nasty image on someone's userpage. Cut that out at once. Newyorkbrad 12:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, MONGO. Thanks very much for the barnstar. I had seen them on other users' pages, but hadn't expected to get one so soon. Nice to be noticed! Cheers. ElinorD (talk) 17:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
My request for adminship has closed successfully (79/0/1), so it appears that I am now an administrator. Thanks very much for your vote of confidence. If there's anything I can ever do to help, please don't hesitate to let me know. IrishGuy talk 03:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, do you know or can you find out, where the word parashant comes from? It was the name of a side canyon, then of a national forest, but what is the origin of the name? Is there a connection with Parsha from the jewish liturgy? I need it to explain the name of the NM in Arizona for my german language article. TIA -- h-stt !? 12:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for supporting my RfA. It was (47/0/0) upon closure and now phase I is complete. I think the tools will aid both me and the encyclopedia. Feel free to leave me a message on my talk page, or if you think I'm misbehaving I'm always open to recall. Thanks, James086 Talk 13:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Georgewilliamherbert (2). Much more of that and I will be campaigning for the return of your sysop bit. Oh wait, I already am... Guy ( Help!) 00:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)