I invite you to read Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive_244#Gospel of John. Reading it you will learn why, on matter of principle, Wikipedia never listens to Ancient historians such as Manetho and Josephus. tgeorgescu ( talk) 03:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- If wikipedia doesn’t listen to ancient historians such as manetho then much of the information on the site related to the Egyptian chronology would have to come down. The majority of what we know about any ancient civilization comes from ancient historians. Without a doubt the information on this site about ancient greece and Rome comes from people like Eusebius, pliny the elder, thucydadies, herodotus, polybius, et al. If wikipedia didn’t listen to ancient historians then there would be relatively no information to use on ancient civilizations. Lukeferg96 ( talk) 03:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Again, modern, mainstream historians critically listen to Ancient historians. It is just that Wikipedians do not play historian. It is not our task to perform original research, but we simply take modern, mainstream history at face value.
- In other words, mainstream historians have the privilege of WP:OR, which we don't have. Modern historians may publish WP:FRINGE POVs if they so wish, we are not allowed to do that. tgeorgescu ( talk) 04:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
I invite you to read Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive_244#Gospel of John. Reading it you will learn why, on matter of principle, Wikipedia never listens to Ancient historians such as Manetho and Josephus. tgeorgescu ( talk) 03:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- If wikipedia doesn’t listen to ancient historians such as manetho then much of the information on the site related to the Egyptian chronology would have to come down. The majority of what we know about any ancient civilization comes from ancient historians. Without a doubt the information on this site about ancient greece and Rome comes from people like Eusebius, pliny the elder, thucydadies, herodotus, polybius, et al. If wikipedia didn’t listen to ancient historians then there would be relatively no information to use on ancient civilizations. Lukeferg96 ( talk) 03:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Again, modern, mainstream historians critically listen to Ancient historians. It is just that Wikipedians do not play historian. It is not our task to perform original research, but we simply take modern, mainstream history at face value.
- In other words, mainstream historians have the privilege of WP:OR, which we don't have. Modern historians may publish WP:FRINGE POVs if they so wish, we are not allowed to do that. tgeorgescu ( talk) 04:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC)