When I saw this change I checked various sources and they said 32. I didn’t check the sources used bud I did check the first just now which is why I reverted you. Doug Weller talk 19:31, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I hope you are well. A source says that Hakor was the pharaoh of Egypt and Athena alan gardiner Egypt of the Pharaohs: An Introduction page 374 and book black athens page 212 can you return the scoure and thanks sir 102.190.165.254 ( talk) 20:30, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- @ 102.190.165.254: Hello. I have Gardiner's Egypt of the pharaohs in my hands right now. Hakor allied with Evagoras and thus also with Athens against the Achamenid Empire, but with the Peace of Antalcidas, Athens stepped down the alliance.
- This means that during Hakor's reign, Egypt and Athens shared a short-lived alliance;
- This does not mean that Hakor was automatically proclaimed "Pharaoh of Athens", as much as that Egypt wasn't automatically annected to the City-state of Athens.
- That's it. About the second book, I believe you refer to Martin Bernal's
Black Athena, a pseudohistory book which falls under
WP:FRINGE, thus, unusable on Wikipedia. Farewell.
Lone-078 (
talk) 20:52, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hey Indeedd it may be right.. but I thought that mention the unity between Athens and Egypt might be useful in the encyclopedia There is no Egyptian colonization of Athens but a union under King Hakur Maybe you can describe it better than me and I'm sorry for the inconvenience and i wish to you every fine thanks.. 2C0F:FC89:F8:2653:9D7D:AA02:4645:79D0 ( talk) 22:02, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
I see your changes to Osireion. Can you see a more balanced view on that paragraph? . If you are familiar , that sounds very disputed or nonsense. The temple is below water and the markings are incredible. Curious you want to silence that info. 88.4.56.11 ( talk) 16:01, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
-
88.4.56.11 Wikipedia is
not censored. However, is up to you to back your claims with
reliable sources and avoid
fringe views.
Lone-078 (
talk) 16:04, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
- Plain thecnicality to delete real and important facts. I think here applys Wikipedia Common sense and has been discused on talk page, Sorry, i will revert.
88.4.56.11 (
talk) 13:13, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Plain failure to recognize the Wikipedia guideline, and a monologue on the talk page is not a discussion, nor is it gaining consensus.
Lone-078 (
talk) 15:56, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Whatever. Blind science is boring 213.94.55.223 ( talk) 15:30, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Plain failure to recognize the Wikipedia guideline, and a monologue on the talk page is not a discussion, nor is it gaining consensus.
Lone-078 (
talk) 15:56, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Plain thecnicality to delete real and important facts. I think here applys Wikipedia Common sense and has been discused on talk page, Sorry, i will revert.
88.4.56.11 (
talk) 13:13, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello mr Lone-078. Horus is also the egyptian god of Weather and loyalty. Since he is a Sky god he is also a Weather god and they are Sources. He is also the patron protector of loyalty which means he is also the god of it. 2A02:587:1F04:9F00:8DFE:E5E7:6523:5CCF ( talk) 19:50, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- 2A02:587:1F04:9F00:8DFE:E5E7:6523:5CCF without sources he can also be the god of hot moms around me, that's original research; furthermore, you are no other than blocked user Akaora. Lone-078 ( talk) 20:13, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
The last two members of the Kemet (Egyptian) Ogdoad are not Amun and Amunet. They are Qerh and Qerhet. Amun and Amunet are part of the Kemet (Egyptian) Predynastic and Dynastic Pantheon. Not the Kemet (Egyptian) Primordial Pantheon. Amun and Amunet are a lesser hierarchy than Ra and Raet, the true hier and hieress of the Predynastic Pantheon. Also Father and Mother of the Dynastic Pantheon. Ra and Raet are other very important Kemet (Egyptian) Predynastic and Dynastic Gods and Goddesses. Yet Amun and Amunet are still very powerful and upon very high hierarchy within the Kemet (Egyptian) Pantheon. Ra and Raet are the most powerful God and Goddess of the Sun. Amun and Amunet are the most powerful God and Goddess of the Moon. If that puts more in perspective. The Kemet (Egyptian) Primordial Pantheon (that includes Atum, Iusseset, and the Ogdoad) is more powerful than the Predynastic and Dynastic Pantheon. They are also the most powerful and highest hierarchial Gods and Goddesses in the universe. BastTheHieress ( talk) 18:59, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- It's very simple: you changed the names of the gods but not the hieroglyphs which continue to refer to the previous names, and that's enough for me to revert your edit. Furthermore, these claims of yours need
reliable sources that you have not included.
Lone-078 (
talk) 08:24, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- I hope you also do more research. I can assure you that Amun and Amunet are more associated with the Moon. Your OWN website previously included the names of Qerh and Qerhet. As I analyzed to be correct. Can you include the hieroglyphics that positively identify them as Amun and Amunet??? I was also not previously told to include reliable sources. There are many other website sources who positively identify Qerh and Qerhet as members of the Ogdoad. That is the only thing that I can think of right now to include but the web says many things that may not be reliable. Including your own. I will need to analyze literatures, hieroglyphics, and other sources to be able to name other sources than website. Once again can you please include hieroglyphical information that "positively identifies" them as Amun and Amunet, members of the Ogdoad, and how you came to these conclusions??? BastTheHieress ( talk) 15:12, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- Also various website sources that I analyzed "openly" state that there is different sources that state different things in regards to the last members of the Ogdoad. Many other websites also name Amun and Amaunet as members of the Ogdoad. Many of these same sites also openly state that they cannot or will not "definitively" identify Amun and Amaunet as members of the Ogdoad. As you claim. Due to various information, debates, and lack of clarity within identifications. I would at least better accept if you admitted and stated the fact that this information may not be definitive. Here is one website that supports my claim, but once again I can openly acknowledge that various sources DO provide various information.
https://armstronginstitute.org/915-the-ogdoad-of-ancient-egypt-the-family-of-noah
BastTheHieress (
talk) 15:35, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- Well spotted, it was changed without explanation by another editor. My apologies.
Lone-078 (
talk) 09:38, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- No problem. I really learn a lot from your site and it is very helpful. I also value the truth. Glad it worked out.. BastTheHieress ( talk) 15:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- Well spotted, it was changed without explanation by another editor. My apologies.
Lone-078 (
talk) 09:38, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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Apologies, the edit I had made referred to dating of when Abydos had ceded its political rank to Thinis. You have it mentioned within the Naqada III stage ((starting 3200BC)), but this to me is false, because Scorpion 1 was able to conquer Upper Egypt by the mid 33rd century by conquering Naqada and uniting with the royal house of Nekhen. This is attested by the dating of Narmers ancestry via dating and median rule for each predecessor of 15 to 30 years. This documentary puts the date of the unification of Upper Egypt in the 33rd century likewise. Visiting the Scorpion 2 page you will see references to this, where there is a time difference between Scorpion 1 and 2 of a near 200 years. Thus it is impossible that Abydos cedes a century after when Thinis had already penetrated the Nile Delta and unified Upper Egypt.
Here is the documentary:channel5_scorpion_king>Secrets of Egypt, Channel 5 TV program 2/8, "Scorpion King," 20 November 2008. Carminowe ( talk) 19:33, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- It may make sense but I believe that when it comes to reliability, a TV documentary cannot overcome a printed book written by an Egyptologist. Lone-078 ( talk) 19:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
If Greek equivalent is Ares, then Roman equivalent must be Mars, agreed?
- No. the Greek equivalent is what a
reliable source says.
Lone-078 (
talk) 19:13, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Do you agree that Ares is the Greek equivalent of the Roman god Mars?
- I agree in what a
reliable source says. Personal deductions aren't welcome on Wikipedia.
Lone-078 (
talk) 19:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- It is not personal deduction, Wikipedia says that Ares is Mars. Check their pages.
- I agree in what a
reliable source says. Personal deductions aren't welcome on Wikipedia.
Lone-078 (
talk) 19:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Do you agree that Ares is the Greek equivalent of the Roman god Mars?
...but when you reverted this you called it a good-faith edit, and I don't really see why. Drmies ( talk) 16:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, here's my reasoning: an edit from a mobile device, most likely a smartphone but without using the Wikipedia app, edit doesn't look like a blatant vandalism, just a deletion of a portion of the infobox, no history of vandalisms by this IP. Maybe their finger just slipped, so I assumed good faith and reverted. Lone-078 ( talk) 17:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
When I saw this change I checked various sources and they said 32. I didn’t check the sources used bud I did check the first just now which is why I reverted you. Doug Weller talk 19:31, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I hope you are well. A source says that Hakor was the pharaoh of Egypt and Athena alan gardiner Egypt of the Pharaohs: An Introduction page 374 and book black athens page 212 can you return the scoure and thanks sir 102.190.165.254 ( talk) 20:30, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- @ 102.190.165.254: Hello. I have Gardiner's Egypt of the pharaohs in my hands right now. Hakor allied with Evagoras and thus also with Athens against the Achamenid Empire, but with the Peace of Antalcidas, Athens stepped down the alliance.
- This means that during Hakor's reign, Egypt and Athens shared a short-lived alliance;
- This does not mean that Hakor was automatically proclaimed "Pharaoh of Athens", as much as that Egypt wasn't automatically annected to the City-state of Athens.
- That's it. About the second book, I believe you refer to Martin Bernal's
Black Athena, a pseudohistory book which falls under
WP:FRINGE, thus, unusable on Wikipedia. Farewell.
Lone-078 (
talk) 20:52, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hey Indeedd it may be right.. but I thought that mention the unity between Athens and Egypt might be useful in the encyclopedia There is no Egyptian colonization of Athens but a union under King Hakur Maybe you can describe it better than me and I'm sorry for the inconvenience and i wish to you every fine thanks.. 2C0F:FC89:F8:2653:9D7D:AA02:4645:79D0 ( talk) 22:02, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
I see your changes to Osireion. Can you see a more balanced view on that paragraph? . If you are familiar , that sounds very disputed or nonsense. The temple is below water and the markings are incredible. Curious you want to silence that info. 88.4.56.11 ( talk) 16:01, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
-
88.4.56.11 Wikipedia is
not censored. However, is up to you to back your claims with
reliable sources and avoid
fringe views.
Lone-078 (
talk) 16:04, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
- Plain thecnicality to delete real and important facts. I think here applys Wikipedia Common sense and has been discused on talk page, Sorry, i will revert.
88.4.56.11 (
talk) 13:13, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Plain failure to recognize the Wikipedia guideline, and a monologue on the talk page is not a discussion, nor is it gaining consensus.
Lone-078 (
talk) 15:56, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Whatever. Blind science is boring 213.94.55.223 ( talk) 15:30, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Plain failure to recognize the Wikipedia guideline, and a monologue on the talk page is not a discussion, nor is it gaining consensus.
Lone-078 (
talk) 15:56, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Plain thecnicality to delete real and important facts. I think here applys Wikipedia Common sense and has been discused on talk page, Sorry, i will revert.
88.4.56.11 (
talk) 13:13, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello mr Lone-078. Horus is also the egyptian god of Weather and loyalty. Since he is a Sky god he is also a Weather god and they are Sources. He is also the patron protector of loyalty which means he is also the god of it. 2A02:587:1F04:9F00:8DFE:E5E7:6523:5CCF ( talk) 19:50, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- 2A02:587:1F04:9F00:8DFE:E5E7:6523:5CCF without sources he can also be the god of hot moms around me, that's original research; furthermore, you are no other than blocked user Akaora. Lone-078 ( talk) 20:13, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
The last two members of the Kemet (Egyptian) Ogdoad are not Amun and Amunet. They are Qerh and Qerhet. Amun and Amunet are part of the Kemet (Egyptian) Predynastic and Dynastic Pantheon. Not the Kemet (Egyptian) Primordial Pantheon. Amun and Amunet are a lesser hierarchy than Ra and Raet, the true hier and hieress of the Predynastic Pantheon. Also Father and Mother of the Dynastic Pantheon. Ra and Raet are other very important Kemet (Egyptian) Predynastic and Dynastic Gods and Goddesses. Yet Amun and Amunet are still very powerful and upon very high hierarchy within the Kemet (Egyptian) Pantheon. Ra and Raet are the most powerful God and Goddess of the Sun. Amun and Amunet are the most powerful God and Goddess of the Moon. If that puts more in perspective. The Kemet (Egyptian) Primordial Pantheon (that includes Atum, Iusseset, and the Ogdoad) is more powerful than the Predynastic and Dynastic Pantheon. They are also the most powerful and highest hierarchial Gods and Goddesses in the universe. BastTheHieress ( talk) 18:59, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- It's very simple: you changed the names of the gods but not the hieroglyphs which continue to refer to the previous names, and that's enough for me to revert your edit. Furthermore, these claims of yours need
reliable sources that you have not included.
Lone-078 (
talk) 08:24, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- I hope you also do more research. I can assure you that Amun and Amunet are more associated with the Moon. Your OWN website previously included the names of Qerh and Qerhet. As I analyzed to be correct. Can you include the hieroglyphics that positively identify them as Amun and Amunet??? I was also not previously told to include reliable sources. There are many other website sources who positively identify Qerh and Qerhet as members of the Ogdoad. That is the only thing that I can think of right now to include but the web says many things that may not be reliable. Including your own. I will need to analyze literatures, hieroglyphics, and other sources to be able to name other sources than website. Once again can you please include hieroglyphical information that "positively identifies" them as Amun and Amunet, members of the Ogdoad, and how you came to these conclusions??? BastTheHieress ( talk) 15:12, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- Also various website sources that I analyzed "openly" state that there is different sources that state different things in regards to the last members of the Ogdoad. Many other websites also name Amun and Amaunet as members of the Ogdoad. Many of these same sites also openly state that they cannot or will not "definitively" identify Amun and Amaunet as members of the Ogdoad. As you claim. Due to various information, debates, and lack of clarity within identifications. I would at least better accept if you admitted and stated the fact that this information may not be definitive. Here is one website that supports my claim, but once again I can openly acknowledge that various sources DO provide various information.
https://armstronginstitute.org/915-the-ogdoad-of-ancient-egypt-the-family-of-noah
BastTheHieress (
talk) 15:35, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- Well spotted, it was changed without explanation by another editor. My apologies.
Lone-078 (
talk) 09:38, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- No problem. I really learn a lot from your site and it is very helpful. I also value the truth. Glad it worked out.. BastTheHieress ( talk) 15:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- Well spotted, it was changed without explanation by another editor. My apologies.
Lone-078 (
talk) 09:38, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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Apologies, the edit I had made referred to dating of when Abydos had ceded its political rank to Thinis. You have it mentioned within the Naqada III stage ((starting 3200BC)), but this to me is false, because Scorpion 1 was able to conquer Upper Egypt by the mid 33rd century by conquering Naqada and uniting with the royal house of Nekhen. This is attested by the dating of Narmers ancestry via dating and median rule for each predecessor of 15 to 30 years. This documentary puts the date of the unification of Upper Egypt in the 33rd century likewise. Visiting the Scorpion 2 page you will see references to this, where there is a time difference between Scorpion 1 and 2 of a near 200 years. Thus it is impossible that Abydos cedes a century after when Thinis had already penetrated the Nile Delta and unified Upper Egypt.
Here is the documentary:channel5_scorpion_king>Secrets of Egypt, Channel 5 TV program 2/8, "Scorpion King," 20 November 2008. Carminowe ( talk) 19:33, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- It may make sense but I believe that when it comes to reliability, a TV documentary cannot overcome a printed book written by an Egyptologist. Lone-078 ( talk) 19:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
If Greek equivalent is Ares, then Roman equivalent must be Mars, agreed?
- No. the Greek equivalent is what a
reliable source says.
Lone-078 (
talk) 19:13, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Do you agree that Ares is the Greek equivalent of the Roman god Mars?
- I agree in what a
reliable source says. Personal deductions aren't welcome on Wikipedia.
Lone-078 (
talk) 19:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- It is not personal deduction, Wikipedia says that Ares is Mars. Check their pages.
- I agree in what a
reliable source says. Personal deductions aren't welcome on Wikipedia.
Lone-078 (
talk) 19:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Do you agree that Ares is the Greek equivalent of the Roman god Mars?
...but when you reverted this you called it a good-faith edit, and I don't really see why. Drmies ( talk) 16:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, here's my reasoning: an edit from a mobile device, most likely a smartphone but without using the Wikipedia app, edit doesn't look like a blatant vandalism, just a deletion of a portion of the infobox, no history of vandalisms by this IP. Maybe their finger just slipped, so I assumed good faith and reverted. Lone-078 ( talk) 17:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)