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JHunterJ 00:03, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
We on Wikipedia peg ourselves to the U. S. Library of Congress Hepburn standard. I checked and it only uses apostrophes with (n) - I personally like using apostrophes with i)(i and n)(n, but I did not know that LOC Hepburn does not call for that until recently. :) WhisperToMe 02:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- I said I was whipering. Anyway, I know there is little difference between wikipedian Hepburn system and that of LOC. Neither is good for transliteration of the Japanese syllabary. The controversy or strife between the two sects, one advocating the Hepburn system and the other for Nihon-shiki system was so long and vehement that people came to have a fixed idea that there could be no other solution excepting the two. The system I am advocating is a transliteration system of the full set of the Japanese Kana syllabary. I am awkawrd in writing English. I wish you can read my comments at [ Frog in a Well]. Kmns tsw 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you and welcome to Wikipedia! Chris ( talk) 16:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- You are welcome. By the way, you can find the transliteration table of the full set of the Kana syllabary at [ EHS(Extended Hepburn System)]. It works two ways. Please read it. I am sure you will find it interesting. Kmns tsw ( talk) 03:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm glad I learned about the system (so I can make more redirects) but I have a feeling that Wikipedia will still use U.S. LOC Hepburn. Notice that JR and many other organizations use Standard Hepburn. The kind used casually can be called a "modified" form of Hepburn that does not use macrons but uses other features of Hepburn.
In short I think "nihonzhin" is less common than "nihonjin." WhisperToMe ( talk) 06:02, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
→ ja:Wikipedia:独自研究は載せない. Jpatokal ( talk) 17:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
→ ja:利用者‐会話:Kmns#警告 222.145.139.116 ( talk) 19:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- I don't deny it is an original idea. And I am not trying to write anything about it either as an article or as a part of an article of Wikipedia. Only I believe you would find it interesting, and that it might throw some light on the recurring questions of the romanization such as macron etc.-- Kmns tsw ( talk) 13:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for letting me know. Is there something I have transliterated incorrectly? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) ( talk) 20:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- No, nothing of that kind. It may sound ridiculous but if asked why I am writing about Kana and romanization, I would say I am not sure of the purpose myself. What I want to say might be boiled down to that transliteration of Kana script could be phonetically reliable if the base be the Classical one, otherwise not. Allow me to use my method to show Kana script. The "oo" of Gendai or Present-Day KANA which comes from "o`o" of the Old or Classical Kana was not supposed to represent a long vowel by those specialists employed by the Ministry of Education. cf [ |『言葉に關する問答集』總集編] p.416 but most of the "ou" of Gendai Kana could be regarded as representing a long vowel if it came from "au" of the Classical Kana. About the last statement about "ou", ask any Japanese around you. Anyway, it is very risky to induce phonetic values from Gendai Kana alone.-- Kmns tsw ( talk) 07:02, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
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Oda Mari (
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Please stop adding inappropriate
external links to Wikipedia, as you did to
Hepburn romanization. It is considered
spamming and
Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Because Wikipedia uses
nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings. If you continue spamming, you may be
blocked from editing Wikipedia.
Oda Mari (
talk) 15:46, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
- I would like thank User:Oda Mari for taking trouble of undoing my edit three times and giving me warning so many times.I have a good will to the neutral-point-of-view policy of Wikipedia, so I myself hesitated to make an edit, but I think what is important is not so much as opinion but knowledge in such a project as this. So I tried to harzard the idea without writing down in detail here even in talk page in deference to the guidelines.
- It was June 1 2006 that I wrote about EHS for the first time to en:wiki. It was on the talk-page of "Romanization of Japanese." You can read it in Talk:Romanization_of_Japanese/Archive_2
- The two documents are publised by one of the most prestigious sites about Romanization of Japanese Language.
- Or should I write down here to discuss the matter? Kmns tsw ( talk) 02:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)Kmns tsw
Welcome!
Hello, Kmns tsw, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- How to edit a page
- Help pages
- Tutorial
- How to write a great article
- Manual of Style
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a
Wikipedian! Please
sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out
Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! --
JHunterJ 00:03, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
We on Wikipedia peg ourselves to the U. S. Library of Congress Hepburn standard. I checked and it only uses apostrophes with (n) - I personally like using apostrophes with i)(i and n)(n, but I did not know that LOC Hepburn does not call for that until recently. :) WhisperToMe 02:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- I said I was whipering. Anyway, I know there is little difference between wikipedian Hepburn system and that of LOC. Neither is good for transliteration of the Japanese syllabary. The controversy or strife between the two sects, one advocating the Hepburn system and the other for Nihon-shiki system was so long and vehement that people came to have a fixed idea that there could be no other solution excepting the two. The system I am advocating is a transliteration system of the full set of the Japanese Kana syllabary. I am awkawrd in writing English. I wish you can read my comments at [ Frog in a Well]. Kmns tsw 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you and welcome to Wikipedia! Chris ( talk) 16:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- You are welcome. By the way, you can find the transliteration table of the full set of the Kana syllabary at [ EHS(Extended Hepburn System)]. It works two ways. Please read it. I am sure you will find it interesting. Kmns tsw ( talk) 03:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm glad I learned about the system (so I can make more redirects) but I have a feeling that Wikipedia will still use U.S. LOC Hepburn. Notice that JR and many other organizations use Standard Hepburn. The kind used casually can be called a "modified" form of Hepburn that does not use macrons but uses other features of Hepburn.
In short I think "nihonzhin" is less common than "nihonjin." WhisperToMe ( talk) 06:02, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
→ ja:Wikipedia:独自研究は載せない. Jpatokal ( talk) 17:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
→ ja:利用者‐会話:Kmns#警告 222.145.139.116 ( talk) 19:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- I don't deny it is an original idea. And I am not trying to write anything about it either as an article or as a part of an article of Wikipedia. Only I believe you would find it interesting, and that it might throw some light on the recurring questions of the romanization such as macron etc.-- Kmns tsw ( talk) 13:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for letting me know. Is there something I have transliterated incorrectly? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) ( talk) 20:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- No, nothing of that kind. It may sound ridiculous but if asked why I am writing about Kana and romanization, I would say I am not sure of the purpose myself. What I want to say might be boiled down to that transliteration of Kana script could be phonetically reliable if the base be the Classical one, otherwise not. Allow me to use my method to show Kana script. The "oo" of Gendai or Present-Day KANA which comes from "o`o" of the Old or Classical Kana was not supposed to represent a long vowel by those specialists employed by the Ministry of Education. cf [ |『言葉に關する問答集』總集編] p.416 but most of the "ou" of Gendai Kana could be regarded as representing a long vowel if it came from "au" of the Classical Kana. About the last statement about "ou", ask any Japanese around you. Anyway, it is very risky to induce phonetic values from Gendai Kana alone.-- Kmns tsw ( talk) 07:02, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things
you have written about in the article
Romanization of Japanese, you may have a
conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's
neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
- editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
- participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors; and
- linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).
Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.
For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Oda Mari ( talk) 15:37, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Please do not add inappropriate
external links to Wikipedia, as you did to
Japanese script reform.
Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See
the external links guideline and
spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the
nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you.
Oda Mari (
talk) 15:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Please stop adding inappropriate
external links to Wikipedia, as you did to
Hepburn romanization. It is considered
spamming and
Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Because Wikipedia uses
nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings. If you continue spamming, you may be
blocked from editing Wikipedia.
Oda Mari (
talk) 15:46, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
- I would like thank User:Oda Mari for taking trouble of undoing my edit three times and giving me warning so many times.I have a good will to the neutral-point-of-view policy of Wikipedia, so I myself hesitated to make an edit, but I think what is important is not so much as opinion but knowledge in such a project as this. So I tried to harzard the idea without writing down in detail here even in talk page in deference to the guidelines.
- It was June 1 2006 that I wrote about EHS for the first time to en:wiki. It was on the talk-page of "Romanization of Japanese." You can read it in Talk:Romanization_of_Japanese/Archive_2
- The two documents are publised by one of the most prestigious sites about Romanization of Japanese Language.
- Or should I write down here to discuss the matter? Kmns tsw ( talk) 02:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)Kmns tsw