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Suraj Mal Jat of Bharatpur

Hi there, I know Wikipedia can be a bit overwhelming at times, but you have mastered the first task: posting messages to talkpages, so that is no worry. I agree that the article Suraj Mal of Bharatpur needs a lot of work. I have no knowledge, residual or otherwise, about the history surrounding it, so I am probably not the best person to ask in terms of cutting down the text. I suggest you start by posting a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Indian military history task force where someone with some background knowledge should be able to help. In terms of adding references, try and follow the example already in the article, so type in:<ref>Author, title, publisher, isbn</ref>. If you don't have some of those available, try and search for them in google, or google scholar, usually it can be quite helpful. It there are derogatory sentences which are not backed up by citations, then you can remove them. If I can be of any assistance, don't hesitate to ask. Regards. Woody ( talk) 17:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC) reply

Article improvement

In terms of Maratha Empire, I would first find a similar article that is at featured article (FA) level, the highest level on the Wikipedia assessment scale. We have British Empire, Hoysala Empire and Vijayanagara Empire at FA level at the moment. You need to compare them to see what the differences are, where the Maratha article fails. I would then compare it to the featured article criteria which articles are measured against. I would then attempt to tackle these issues, at the moment citations are a definite issue on the Maratha Empire article. I would then put it up for peer review (the WikiProject India PR system seems to be inactive. At PR, the issues with the article can be identified by outside reviewers which is hugely beneficial. The PR will give you things to work on for the higher assessment levels.

For good article and featured article status the article has to undergo rigorous external review procedures. The article is not up to these levels yet though, FAC can be extremely rigorous. So basically, start by looking at other articles, start adding citations and put it up for peer review. That would be a great start. If you have any questions, my talkpage is open. Regards. Woody ( talk) 17:42, 15 January 2009 (UTC) reply

Help request

This is regarding the different types of references that can be provided for facts in an article. I would like to know if instances from a T.V. serial (which is not a fiction and is totally based on facts, with contribution by noted historians associated with it) based on history could be provided as a reference for an article. I have also seen articles where web addresses have been provided as references for a particular fact. Can a web address be provided as a reference for a fact?

Hi there! There is no fixed criteria about what can and cannot be a reference - all that the policies specify is that it must be a 'reliable' and 'verifiable' source - in other words, somebody we can trust, and something we can check. As you can imaging, this is a complex area, and creates a lot of debate.
The TV serial that you mention sounds fine, as long as it was broadcast on a reasonably major channel - this is because I would 'trust' such a source as reliable and, as a reader, it would be possible for me to verify the information.
As regards the web, well, the same thing applies. If it is a BBC News article then yes; if it's a blogsite then no (because anyone could have written it).
For more, see WP:RS and WP:V.
Another important point - the reference info should not be provided by the subject of the article (e.g. the website of a company etc), because that would be a 'primary source'. We need secondary sources, such as newspapers, books, etc.
If you are ever uncertain about a specific source for a reference, please ask others on the Reliable sources noticeboard.
I hope this helps; if you need more, either;
Cheers,  Chzz   ►  11:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC) reply

Barnstar

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A barnstar for your contributions to Maharashtra related articles on Wikipedia! Keep it up! Belasd ( talk) 22:02, 23 May 2009 (UTC) reply

May 2009

I noticed the message you recently left to User talk:Mytestid1980. Please remember: do not bite the newcomers. If you see someone make a common mistake, try to politely point out what they did wrong and how to correct it. Thank you. Eugene Krabs ( talk) 18:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC) reply

Reported WP:ANI on User:Mytestid1980

I hope this works? God knows why someone blasted us!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hometech ( talkcontribs) 18:12, 26 May 2009 (UTC) reply

I learnt on a cyclone article of late. If there's a punctuatn mark, cites go after it. Hometech ( talk) 18:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the cookie

Thanks for the cookie!! -- Deepak D'Souza 18:16, 1 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Helpme

{{ helpme}} Shivaji Maharaj's coronation took place on this day in 1674. This needs to be included on the Main page in On this day... section. Kindly add this informatin on the Main page.

Hi Kesangh , shall I show you how you could do that? Trafford09 ( talk) 09:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Ya, sure! Thanks Kesangh ( talk) 09:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Kesangh, By the way, although it is noted in the helpme template, you may not be aware that the talk to us live thing really works; there's several people, including myself, sitting there all the time, more than happy to help users with any Wikipedia questions. Pop in and say "hi" some time. If you wanted to try it now, I could then chat to you, and show you how to do what you want? Or maybe you'd rather do it here instead? Please say, thanks Trafford09 ( talk) 09:27, 5 June 2009 (UTC) reply
It's really just a case of your being bold. Just go into [ [1]], then add the line in for your desired event. It doesn't matter if you make a mistake, because somebody would just undo it or correct it and let you know. Trafford09 ( talk) 09:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC) reply

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On This Day (OTD)

Hi. An answer to another of your questions:
  • Q: "Why are only a few selected events mentioned in the 'On this day' section, out of all the entries; I don't see any difference in the syntax of these selected events in the edit section. Who selects the events which should be displayed on the Main page?"
  • A: Another good question! Please see WP:OTD, which I hope explains the procedure used in preparing items for the WP:Main Page. Trafford09 ( talk) 02:31, 6 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Copied text

Me yet again!
  • Q: "I noticed that you copied some of the text from your own talk page onto my talk page :-)"
  • A: Well spotted! Well, the advice worked for me, so I didn't want to re-invent the wheel - actually I'm just a lazy s** :)
Trafford09 ( talk) 02:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Archives

Some of the responses that I posted to your questions have now been archived off my talk page. Any threads over 100 hours old on my talk page are automatically archived; you can always use the search box at the top of my talk page and search for your name. Cheers,  Chzz   ►  15:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Ya, got it. Will go through it if i need some help :-) Kesangh ( talk) 07:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Named references

In answer to your question on my talk page;

Chzz was born in 1837, <ref name="MyBook">
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> in Footown.<ref name="MyBook"/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

 Chzz   ►  17:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Shivaji

meaning u havent seen many episodes or don't remember 'em? website doesnt have any episode guides. in future u can write date of episod when citing. Hometech ( talk) 12:30, 14 June 2009 (UTC) reply

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 Chzz   ►  18:21, 14 June 2009 (UTC) reply

the need of episodes will be fought over when Shivaji is toward GA/FA. Hometech ( talk) 07:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Durrani map

thank you very much for your support. yes I think we should definitly delete that map. There is an anti-Iranian influence-rich historian in the wikipedia who frustrates all my efforts and supports the Afghans. I cannot revert that, but if we can mobilize more editors then we should be able to do that.-- Babakexorramdin ( talk) 11:13, 21 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Peer review

Glad to help with Shivaji's peer review - it is clear that a large amount of work has gone into it and I am glad to help with a review, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 22:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Spotlight

Hi there. Hopefully you'll remember me, from my trying to help you; well, now it's my turn to ask for help.

I'm trying to help re-launch an idea called "Spotlight". The notion is to select an article and work on it collectively, via live discussion, for one week. If lots of people get involved, it can work really well; in the past, the project died off through lack of participants. Anyone can help out, because that's the whole point - we have many and varied skills, but between us, we can do amazing things. So - please join the channel, and add yourself to the participants in WP:SPOTLIGHT. Thanks for your time!  Chzz   ►  22:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC) reply

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Your query on pictures of Marattha soldiers

Try this link: Regards, Shantanu

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00routesdata/1600_1699/marathas/forbes/forbes.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shantanu2806 ( talkcontribs) 07:36, 13 February 2011 (UTC) reply

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Welcome

Hello, Kesangh, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} and your question on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

We hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this: ~~~~. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!

Suraj Mal Jat of Bharatpur

Hi there, I know Wikipedia can be a bit overwhelming at times, but you have mastered the first task: posting messages to talkpages, so that is no worry. I agree that the article Suraj Mal of Bharatpur needs a lot of work. I have no knowledge, residual or otherwise, about the history surrounding it, so I am probably not the best person to ask in terms of cutting down the text. I suggest you start by posting a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Indian military history task force where someone with some background knowledge should be able to help. In terms of adding references, try and follow the example already in the article, so type in:<ref>Author, title, publisher, isbn</ref>. If you don't have some of those available, try and search for them in google, or google scholar, usually it can be quite helpful. It there are derogatory sentences which are not backed up by citations, then you can remove them. If I can be of any assistance, don't hesitate to ask. Regards. Woody ( talk) 17:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC) reply

Article improvement

In terms of Maratha Empire, I would first find a similar article that is at featured article (FA) level, the highest level on the Wikipedia assessment scale. We have British Empire, Hoysala Empire and Vijayanagara Empire at FA level at the moment. You need to compare them to see what the differences are, where the Maratha article fails. I would then compare it to the featured article criteria which articles are measured against. I would then attempt to tackle these issues, at the moment citations are a definite issue on the Maratha Empire article. I would then put it up for peer review (the WikiProject India PR system seems to be inactive. At PR, the issues with the article can be identified by outside reviewers which is hugely beneficial. The PR will give you things to work on for the higher assessment levels.

For good article and featured article status the article has to undergo rigorous external review procedures. The article is not up to these levels yet though, FAC can be extremely rigorous. So basically, start by looking at other articles, start adding citations and put it up for peer review. That would be a great start. If you have any questions, my talkpage is open. Regards. Woody ( talk) 17:42, 15 January 2009 (UTC) reply

Help request

This is regarding the different types of references that can be provided for facts in an article. I would like to know if instances from a T.V. serial (which is not a fiction and is totally based on facts, with contribution by noted historians associated with it) based on history could be provided as a reference for an article. I have also seen articles where web addresses have been provided as references for a particular fact. Can a web address be provided as a reference for a fact?

Hi there! There is no fixed criteria about what can and cannot be a reference - all that the policies specify is that it must be a 'reliable' and 'verifiable' source - in other words, somebody we can trust, and something we can check. As you can imaging, this is a complex area, and creates a lot of debate.
The TV serial that you mention sounds fine, as long as it was broadcast on a reasonably major channel - this is because I would 'trust' such a source as reliable and, as a reader, it would be possible for me to verify the information.
As regards the web, well, the same thing applies. If it is a BBC News article then yes; if it's a blogsite then no (because anyone could have written it).
For more, see WP:RS and WP:V.
Another important point - the reference info should not be provided by the subject of the article (e.g. the website of a company etc), because that would be a 'primary source'. We need secondary sources, such as newspapers, books, etc.
If you are ever uncertain about a specific source for a reference, please ask others on the Reliable sources noticeboard.
I hope this helps; if you need more, either;
Cheers,  Chzz   ►  11:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC) reply

Barnstar

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A barnstar for your contributions to Maharashtra related articles on Wikipedia! Keep it up! Belasd ( talk) 22:02, 23 May 2009 (UTC) reply

May 2009

I noticed the message you recently left to User talk:Mytestid1980. Please remember: do not bite the newcomers. If you see someone make a common mistake, try to politely point out what they did wrong and how to correct it. Thank you. Eugene Krabs ( talk) 18:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC) reply

Reported WP:ANI on User:Mytestid1980

I hope this works? God knows why someone blasted us!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hometech ( talkcontribs) 18:12, 26 May 2009 (UTC) reply

I learnt on a cyclone article of late. If there's a punctuatn mark, cites go after it. Hometech ( talk) 18:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the cookie

Thanks for the cookie!! -- Deepak D'Souza 18:16, 1 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Helpme

{{ helpme}} Shivaji Maharaj's coronation took place on this day in 1674. This needs to be included on the Main page in On this day... section. Kindly add this informatin on the Main page.

Hi Kesangh , shall I show you how you could do that? Trafford09 ( talk) 09:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Ya, sure! Thanks Kesangh ( talk) 09:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Kesangh, By the way, although it is noted in the helpme template, you may not be aware that the talk to us live thing really works; there's several people, including myself, sitting there all the time, more than happy to help users with any Wikipedia questions. Pop in and say "hi" some time. If you wanted to try it now, I could then chat to you, and show you how to do what you want? Or maybe you'd rather do it here instead? Please say, thanks Trafford09 ( talk) 09:27, 5 June 2009 (UTC) reply
It's really just a case of your being bold. Just go into [ [1]], then add the line in for your desired event. It doesn't matter if you make a mistake, because somebody would just undo it or correct it and let you know. Trafford09 ( talk) 09:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC) reply

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 Chzz   ►  19:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC) reply

On This Day (OTD)

Hi. An answer to another of your questions:
  • Q: "Why are only a few selected events mentioned in the 'On this day' section, out of all the entries; I don't see any difference in the syntax of these selected events in the edit section. Who selects the events which should be displayed on the Main page?"
  • A: Another good question! Please see WP:OTD, which I hope explains the procedure used in preparing items for the WP:Main Page. Trafford09 ( talk) 02:31, 6 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Copied text

Me yet again!
  • Q: "I noticed that you copied some of the text from your own talk page onto my talk page :-)"
  • A: Well spotted! Well, the advice worked for me, so I didn't want to re-invent the wheel - actually I'm just a lazy s** :)
Trafford09 ( talk) 02:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Archives

Some of the responses that I posted to your questions have now been archived off my talk page. Any threads over 100 hours old on my talk page are automatically archived; you can always use the search box at the top of my talk page and search for your name. Cheers,  Chzz   ►  15:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Ya, got it. Will go through it if i need some help :-) Kesangh ( talk) 07:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Named references

In answer to your question on my talk page;

Chzz was born in 1837, <ref name="MyBook">
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> in Footown.<ref name="MyBook"/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

 Chzz   ►  17:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Shivaji

meaning u havent seen many episodes or don't remember 'em? website doesnt have any episode guides. in future u can write date of episod when citing. Hometech ( talk) 12:30, 14 June 2009 (UTC) reply

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 Chzz   ►  18:21, 14 June 2009 (UTC) reply

the need of episodes will be fought over when Shivaji is toward GA/FA. Hometech ( talk) 07:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Durrani map

thank you very much for your support. yes I think we should definitly delete that map. There is an anti-Iranian influence-rich historian in the wikipedia who frustrates all my efforts and supports the Afghans. I cannot revert that, but if we can mobilize more editors then we should be able to do that.-- Babakexorramdin ( talk) 11:13, 21 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Peer review

Glad to help with Shivaji's peer review - it is clear that a large amount of work has gone into it and I am glad to help with a review, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 22:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Spotlight

Hi there. Hopefully you'll remember me, from my trying to help you; well, now it's my turn to ask for help.

I'm trying to help re-launch an idea called "Spotlight". The notion is to select an article and work on it collectively, via live discussion, for one week. If lots of people get involved, it can work really well; in the past, the project died off through lack of participants. Anyone can help out, because that's the whole point - we have many and varied skills, but between us, we can do amazing things. So - please join the channel, and add yourself to the participants in WP:SPOTLIGHT. Thanks for your time!  Chzz   ►  22:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC) reply

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A new user asked for help in getting some Wikipedians to complete this survey] - anonymous, and only for research. If you have a few spare minutes, perhaps you could complete it. Cheers,  Chzz   ►  06:05, 10 April 2010 (UTC) reply

Thanks!  Chzz   ►  16:00, 14 April 2010 (UTC) reply

Your query on pictures of Marattha soldiers

Try this link: Regards, Shantanu

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00routesdata/1600_1699/marathas/forbes/forbes.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shantanu2806 ( talkcontribs) 07:36, 13 February 2011 (UTC) reply

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