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News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2022).

Administrator changes Modussiccandi BOZ • Brookie (deceased) • Jackmcbarn • Jamesday • Jonathunder • Master of Puppets • Saravask

CheckUser changes Callanecc Oversighter changes Callanecc

Guideline and policy news

• A RfC is open to change the wording of revision deletion criterion 1 to remove the sentence relating to non-infringing contributions.
• A RfC is open to discuss prohibiting draftification of articles over 90 days old.

Technical news

• The deployment of the reply tool as an opt-out feature, as announced in last month's newsletter, has been delayed to 7 March. Feedback and comments are being welcomed at Wikipedia talk:Talk pages project. ( T296645)
• Special:Nuke will now allow the selection of standard deletion reasons to be used when mass-deleting pages. This was a Community Wishlist Survey request from 2022. ( T25020)
• The ability to undelete the talk page when undeleting a page using Special:Undelete or the API will be added soon. This change was requested in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. ( T295389)

Arbitration

• Several unused discretionary sanctions and article probation remedies have been rescinded. This follows the community feedback from the 2021 Discretionary Sanctions review.

Miscellaneous

• The 2022 appointees for the Ombuds commission are Érico, Faendalimas, Galahad, Infinite0694, Mykola7, Olugold, Udehb and Zabe as regular members and Ameisenigel and JJMC89 as advisory members.
• Following the 2022 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AntiCompositeNumber, BRPever, Hasley, TheresNoTime, and Vermont.
• The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey results have been published alongside the ranking of prioritized proposals.

HEy nice to meet u and this was for the support which u had given to me at my talk page. hope u will help to other users too. THANK YOu. ---- TFE Talk..! 15:13, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

 Note: log of discussion relating to this Just i yaya 02:26, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Apologies for my error and thanks for moving the tag. VickKiang ( talk) 21:22, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

@ VickKiang You're welcome! considering installing Twinkle as it'll make anti-vandalism a lot easier :D Just i yaya 23:37, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, I have inserted Twinkle and it is working well so far. VickKiang ( talk) 02:34, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

@ VickKiang Sounds great, have fun editing and enjoy! Just i yaya 11:35, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

hello i want to write an article on my music career frrom where can i start? -- Hosambaloch ( talk) 00:49, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Hosambaloch, welcome to Wikipedia! Writing an article about your self is strongly discouraged here. If you want to start contributing to Wikipedia, see WP:TASK, thank you! Just i yaya 01:47, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Hosambaloch, you should know that editing with a COI (where you have a personal connection with the subject of the article) is strongly discouraged as it can produce biased work that may not comply with WP:NPOV.
Also, if you really want to do so, you should make sure the subject is notable enough to deserve its own article here (a good way to determine this is checking online to make sure there are sources that cover this, as all Wikipedia articles must be referenced properly.
If you're sure you want to continue, you should check out WP:YFA for basics about writing articles. Liamyangll ( talk to me!) 01:48, 9 March 2022 (UTC) ( talk page watcher)

thank you so much for your guidence Hosambaloch ( talk) 19:30, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

No problem, feel free to message Justiyaya or me if you have any more questions! Liamyangll ( talk to me!) 21:48, 9 March 2022 (UTC) ( talk page watcher)

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hi, what shall I edit? -- Qazxqazsedc ( talk) 13:04, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Qazxqazsedc, welcome to Wikipedia! The task center contains a list of tasks on Wikipedia, choosing a task there might be a good place to start, if you have more questions about Wikipedia, feel free to ask another question or reply to this thread, thanks! Just i yaya 14:36, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

hi i am am a streamer on youtube obyman roblox and twich at obyman111 can you sa -- Obyman ( talk) 18:06, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @ Obyman, welcome to Wikipedia. Please clarify your question, thanks! Just i yaya 00:49, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to the twentieth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in Wikimedia projects.

Suggested edits

As of February, 300,000 suggested edits have been completed since the feature was first deployed in December 2019.

Add a link is the team's first structured task, deployed in May 2021. It has improved outcomes for newcomers. The team is now working on a second iteration based on community feedback and data analysis. Improvements will include: improved algorithmic suggestions, guardrails to prevent too many similar links to be added, and clearer encouragement for users to continue making edits. After adding these improvements, we will deploy this task to more Wikipedias.

Add an image is the second structured task built by our team. It was deployed in November 2021 to four pilot Wikipedias. This is a more challenging task for newcomers. However, it adds more value to articles (so far, over 1,000 images have been added). We are currently learning from communities and from the data on what is working well and what needs improvements. The project page contains links to interactive prototypes. We are very interested to hear your thoughts on this idea as we build and test the early versions. We will soon deploy this task to more Wikipedias as a test.

"Add a link" and "Add an image" now both have a limitation on how many of these tasks newcomers can do per day. It is meant to discourage careless newcomers from making too many problematic edits.

Positive reinforcement

Over the last two years, the Growth team has focused on building suggested edits: easy tasks for newcomers to start with. We have learned with this experience that these tasks help many newcomers to make their first edits. Now, the team is starting a new project : " positive reinforcement". Its goal is to make newcomers proud of their editing and to make them want to come back for more of them. With the positive reinforcement project, we are considering three kinds of features:

• Impact stats: give newcomers the ability to see how many people read the articles they edit.
• Leveling up: encourage newcomers to progress from easier tasks to harder tasks.
• Personalized praise: encourage mentors and other editors to "thank" and award newcomers for good work.

This project is just beginning, and we hope for community thoughts on the direction. We know that things can wrong if we offer the wrong incentives to newcomers, so we want to be careful. Please visit the talk page to help guide the project!

News for mentors

• The mentor dashboard is available at all wikis. It helps mentors see who their mentees are and keep track of their activity. It is automatically activated where a list of mentors has been created. If you need assistance to create a list of mentors, please contact us.
• The mentor dashboard has a new module: settings. It is now possible for mentors to define their status (active or away). They can specify the volume of questions they want to receive, and they can claim mentees in an easier way. It is also possible for mentors to quit, which will automatically reassign their mentees to other mentors.
• We are working on an ability for a mentee to opt-out (and back in) to having a mentor.
• Previously, in the table that displays mentees activity, the filters displayed all mentees, even the ones with zero edits or lots of edits. We have changed this so that only mentees with between 1 and 500 edits are visible by default. Mentors can change this value in their filters.
• We are currently working on a special page for mentors to sign-up.

Some wikis have created userboxes that mentors can display on the user pages. If your wiki has one, please link it to Wikidata!

Scaling

Previously, at most Wikipedias, only 80% of newcomers were getting the Growth features. This was done for experimentation, to have a control group. We have changed this setting. Now 100% of new accounts at all Wikipedias get the Growth features ( except a few, kept as test wikis). We invite communities to update their onboarding documentation and tutorials. Please include the Growth features in it. To help you, we have created an help page that can be translated and adapted to your wiki.

How to help

Do you have questions about the Growth features? This translatable FAQ contains answers to the most common questions about the Growth team work. We regularly update it.

Interface translations are important for newcomers. Please help for your language, by translating or copyediting interface translations for the Growth features.

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17:12, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Happy Saint Patrick's Day Wishing you health, wealth and happiness during the greenest day of the year.

–– FormalDude talk 03:51, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @ FormalDude! Just i yaya 07:21, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

May I edit as per Suggestbot's suggestion, if someone of those lists is personally known to me? Few such suggestions are personally known to me. I am a bit confused here. Please assist me. -- NeverTry4Me - TT Page 14:08, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @ NeverTry4Me I would strongly discourage you from doing so, as it probably would constitute a conflict of interest. Would suggest working on another article (there's a lot more articles needing improvements :)

Have a great day and happy editing :D, feel free to ask another question or reply below if you need me to clarify! Just i yaya 15:05, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

@ Justiyaya: Do I need to revert to one that I added citations to fix the things? (Just knew him decade back, had virtual contact but never met in person. For more than a decade, we don't have any contact.) - NeverTry4Me - TT Page 15:10, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

@ NeverTry4Me I don't think you should self revert here, I mentioned above that it would probably constitute a conflict of interest without really understanding the situation... sorry about that, assumed that it was a much more serious case of COI and not knew the person online 10 years ago kinda COI. I would say that you would probably be fine editing the article. It would probably be preferred if you disclosed the conflict of interest on your userpage (say basically what you said above). Thanks and sorry about that! Just i yaya 15:44, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

It's best that you give WP:COI, specifically WP:EXTERNALREL a read, they might be helpful :D Just i yaya 15:49, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

@ Justiyaya: I have done this. Can you check my User-page whether I have done it in the proper way or not? Please.. - NeverTry4Me - TT Page 16:09, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

@ NeverTry4Me That is perfect and far more than what is required (in a good way), thank you! Just i yaya 17:08, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Valereee, I need your help with my Talk page archive. The Archive is not indexing the archive pages i.e. Archive1, Archive2, etc. -- NeverTry4Me - TT Page 03:30, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @ NeverTry4Me, Valereee is not doing Growth Team mentorship anymore... I'm currently assigned as your mentor, if you want me to, I can find you a new mentor. Anyways, I'm not very familiar with automatic archiving, sorry... Do you want me to perhaps ask on the teahouse? Just i yaya 03:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

@ Justiyaya please find me a mentor for me. NeverTry4Me - TT Page 04:14, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

If you want a new mentor, Blaze Wolf is a Growth Team mentor and has bot based archiving enabled, perhaps he can help. Just i yaya 04:48, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

It looks like someone's offered assistance at the Teahouse. Also, Blaze Wolf is currently on a wiki break.

If you're looking for a long-term mentor, you may want to reach out to someone who is willing to adopt you. –– FormalDude talk 05:43, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Justiyaya,

Rather than PRODding a very incomplete article like this or tagging it for deletion, you might consider moving it to Draft space where a new editor can continue to work on it and learn about editing through improving stub articles like this. We have some very handy scripts you can install to make this very simple for you. The one I prefer is at User:Evad37/MoveToDraft and after you add the code to one of your .js pages, it places an option to either "Draftify" or "Move to Draft" in the More drop down tab at the top of the page. One feature of this script is that it not only moves the page from main space to Draft space but it also posts a notification to the new editor, letting them know where they can now find their page creation. Another neat feature is that it will start up a "Draftify" log for you, where you can track or keep watch over pages that you have moved to Draft space, this is similar to CSD logs, PROD logs and XfD logs that Twinkle provides for those who use this tool.

While many of these pages are not likely to become full-fledged articles in main space, one thought behind draftifying pages is that, for a new editor, they can improve their editing skills in Draft space and is less jarring than having a page they created, which might be their first attempt at writing an article, be tagged for deletion. I'm sure an editor who has only been here a few days has no idea what a PROD is and not know that they can untag articles that have been PROD'd and work on them. It's all a gentler way to encourage new editors to hone their skills and become better contributors.

Please consider draftifying articles in the future if you see a new editor attempt to create articles that are just not ready for main space. However, draftifying articles is not a good idea to do for experienced editors who might just be at the beginning stage of working on an article, but you can check their contributions to see if this is the case. Also, truly bad content like copyright violations, advertising or vandalism should just be tagged for immediate deletion. Thank you for all of the work you do on Wikipedia! It is appreciated! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:05, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the note Liz, I have the script installed and considered draftifying before placing the PROD. Think I got confused with the "has some potential merit" part of WP:Draftify as I thought it required evidence of notability, sorry about that. Should I revert the prod and draftify instead? Just i yaya 17:16, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

hello how can i edit my draft? i have made few mistakes while adding the links -- Caline el hayek ( talk) 22:59, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Caline el hayek, welcome to Wikipedia! Writing your first article can be really challenging as a beginner, it would be best if you helped out with other tasks before trying to create one. If you insist on creating a new article, please review WP:1st and our notability guidelines. I would recommend starting with replying here with three sources that are independent, reliable, and provides significant coverage to the subject of the article you are trying to create. Just i yaya 06:23, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Caline el hayek, I just wanted to let you know that your draft has been deleted as our administrators believed it was created for advertising or promotional purposes. This means it is very likely not notable, or was written in a tone that suggested personal conflict of interest, which is discouraged. Justiyaya's right - writing articles of your own can be very hard at first, so maybe take some time to get to know Wikipedia by helping out with smaller, easier tasks first. Thanks, Liamyangll ( talk to me!) 06:55, 27 March 2022 (UTC) ( watching)

thank you, I wasn’t aware of that.

best regards. Caline el hayek ( talk) 09:23, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Tozzitivity: is a new word describing the Lebanese state of mind towards the latest tough circumstances that happened from 2018 to 2022. it's a combination of a weird and unexplained positivity and a deep feeling of apathy and detachment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caline el hayek ( talk • contribs) 09:31, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Okay! Remember to sign your posts in the future using ~~~~ :D Just i yaya 09:34, 27 March 2022 (UTC)