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Windham was produced and served as home to multiple notable individuals in diverse fields. Politician Laurin D. Woodworth was born in Windham and represented Ohio's 17th district in the United States Congress from 1873 until 1877. [1] Windham is also the birthplace of Thomson Jay Hudson, known for his three laws of psychic phenomena. [2] Writer Angela Johnson was raised in Windham [3] and stated her inspiration to become an author came as a student in the Windham Exempted Village School District. [4] Current Ball State Cardinals head football coach Stan Parrish lived in Windham from 1969-1974 at the beginning of his coaching career and served as head coach at Windham High School from 1972 until 1974 after serving as an assistant [5]
This is what I put together...wanted to let you see it and comment before publishing it. -- JonRidinger ( talk) 03:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Yep, same person tried adding him back once again after you undid the edit. Next time, I consider it vandalism. -- JeffBillman ( talk) 01:18, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi JonRidinger. No problem! Always happy to help. Cheers, FASTILY (TALK) 05:51, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I've done my best to participate, both by offering long comments and by reverting to what everyone minus our apparently single editor is wanting. BTW, it looks like we have an attempt to evade 3RR by a newly-registered account at MF; I'm leaving a notice at the 3RR noticeboard. Nyttend ( talk) 00:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi I dont like to read incorrect information on wiki's I may not know where to get a source for something but if it is clearnly wrong and already does not have a source it gets cut. 131.123.65.154 ( talk) 23:08, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
I thought I would just point out the mistakes then you can fix them.
131.123.65.154 (
talk) 01:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Its ok I am just doing my part to make these pages GREAT!!
131.123.65.154 (
talk) 04:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
As you can see here, I was in Kent today. Is the road Sunny Brook or Sunnybrook? I didn't pay attention to the street signs when going there, and it was dark when I left, so I don't remember what the signs said. NRIS gives the street name as "Sunny Brook", while Google Maps shows it as "Sunnybrook". Local input, please? Nyttend ( talk) 02:47, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Not all english readers use acres and hectares http://www.geocities.com/genfriendsghl/research_tips/units_of_land_measure.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.123.65.154 ( talk) 04:46, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for weeding through this article and finding my errors. JEN9841 ( talk) 13:04, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I believe that the situation with this photo is more complicated than you originally thought — see my comments at the county listings talk page. Nyttend ( talk) 21:45, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
from boldface mos page: "Boldface is used to separate the article name from ordinary text. It is typically used in the first paragraph of an article, used with proper names and common terms for the article topic, including any synonyms and acronyms. Do this only for the first occurrence of the term."
Florence is not the name of the Munroe Falls article. Florence is not the proper name of Munroe Falls. Florence is not a common term for the article topic (Munroe Falls). The article as a whole is about Munroe Falls, not historic Munroe Falls.
also from boldface mos page(s): "Use italics, not boldface, for emphasis in article text. Use boldface in the remainder of the article only for a few special uses:
* Table headers * Definition lists (example: Glossary of trucking industry terms in the United States) * Volume numbers of journal articles, in some bibliographic formats"
Florence doesn't fall into any of the above categories, so use italics (although even that seems unnecessary). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.64.103.117 ( talk) 22:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Do you honestly consider Florence another name for Munroe Falls? Have you ever heard anyone refer to Munroe Falls as Florence? Ever? Florence IS not another name for Munroe Falls. The name is historic, not current, and therefore IS not an additional name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.64.103.117 ( talk) 14:17, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help with that anonymous user, particularly in reverting the edits on my user page. I removed the refimprove templates on both the Kent, Ohio and Theodore Roosevelt High School (Kent, Ohio) articles because they really aren't needed. Both articles can still be improved in many ways, but they both are well-sourced. Their placement was done in spite, not for any actual encylcopedic reason or concern over content. It seems that when editors, particularly new editors, get in a disagreement with me, their solution is to edit the pages I edit the most. Same thing happened with a newer editor who edited the Akron, Ohio article a little while back if you remember. I feel the latest edits, particularly what was placed on your and my talk pages and in my user page could be considered Harassment. -- JonRidinger ( talk) 16:56, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
(out) I opened a sockpuppet investigation at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Smfhs photographer. Will notify all involved parties. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 21:02, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
please justify including one and not the other; i understand not listing "every educational institution," but why no library (when there is one and only one)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.64.103.117 ( talk) 02:54, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
better?
the other citations (e.g. PACE NSC) are okay, no? 3227Egraham ( talk) 20:18, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
OK so you are the anonyous editor who has like 15 additional names. I never said "every little fact" had to be cited. You misinterpreted what I said. Having a good amount of sources is fantasic, but you usually only need one, especially for non-controversial statements. Like pictures, there is such a thing as overkill. For instance, saying that the school is commonly referred to as "Stow High School" would only really need one source (and really, the athletics page itself is a source since its name is "StowHighAthletics") if any at all since using a shortened name of the school (especially in a long name like "Stow-Munroe Falls") is pretty normal and hardly unique. You also don't need to source the statement that Stow is a suburb of Akron or that the school is located in Stow. Those are pretty much a given. Really, the places where sources become an issue is when you make outstanding claims. If I remember right, this became an issue with the academic teams, particularly the JCL, which does make some pretty outstanding claims. As for your question on athletics, a general reference to the Stow athletics page would suffice for the statement that most teams have their home games at the school, since the page has schedules for each team. Again, it is not abnormal for a school to have the majority of its athletic teams play in or around the building. Having one additional citation per team that plays elsewhere (like swimming and bowling) would be appropriate as well. Also, if the fact has a marked citation one place in the article, it doesn't need to be marked every time, especially in the lead and infobox. The high school article I have used as a guide along with the Schools Wikiproject is Plano Senior High School, which is one of only 2 featured school articles.
Also, what's the deal with all these different user names? Do you keep forgetting your password or something? -- JonRidinger ( talk) 20:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jon! Have you read today's Record-Courier? Turns out that Brent Webb guy was right about being admitted to the Ravens Hall of Fame. Of course, saying so before now was original research, and-- more importantly-- it still doesn't demonstrate sufficient notability. Still, I thought you'd get a kick out of it! Cheers! -- JeffBillman ( talk) 22:50, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
I will be happy to have you help improve the page for the Northern Ohio Railway Museum as long as it is accurate. Another individual created this page without the museums knowledge and that original post was full of inacurate and incomplete info. That is why I became active in this endeaver. You can edit and add links, etc as needed as long as I can proof them before going public. My interest is in seeing that the museum and technical facts are represented accurately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Motormansteve ( talk • contribs) 06:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
I will be happy to have you help improve the page for the Northern Ohio Railway Museum as long as it is accurate. Another individual created this page without the museums knowledge and that original post was full of inacurate and incomplete info. That is why I became active in this endeaver. You can edit and add links, etc as needed as long as I can proof them before going public. My interest is in seeing that the museum and technical facts are represented accurately. Motormansteve ( talk) 06:51, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
What would you think about restoring and rewording the water department? In my mind, it would be reasonable to say simply that the department employs a large number of minors; this is likely unusual enough to merit mention, especially since that section was sourced. Nyttend ( talk) 12:25, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
I gave the user a 3RR warning and reverted his/her latest edit. I will block if s/he reverts again. And all this for an unsubstantiated claim of SEVENTH place?? "We're number seven!! We're number seven!!" Just doesn't have that much appeal to me... ;-) Thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:23, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
I've been removing onlineutah.com from all the pages it is currently on, because (a) it's spam (for a realtor, and for Google ads) and (b) it appears to be copyvio, copied from a Utah encyclopedia. It certainly shouldn't stand as a reliable source, and probably not as an EL either. I'm not reverting your reverts, but wanted to let you know the rationale behind removing the refs. tedder ( talk) 06:17, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Please refrain from the rouge side, also i can assist you when you struggle at times, im available daily so just ask.-- Threeblur0 ( talk) 18:29, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
John you shoulf be ashamed of yourself, as everyone can look back and see, im right, so ima let this roll like the Wagon Wheel at UA.-- Threeblur0 ( talk) 12:57, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
{outdent} So if Kent had won, would that mean that Beirne's edit would not have been vandalism? This isn't a straw man... it's a total non sequitur. Threeblur, you were wrong to label that edit as vandalism. It wouldn't have mattered what the overgrown rodents had done on the football field, even if Akron had beaten a real team. In other words, no matter what the Zips do on any given date (say November 20, 2009), it still won't make one lick of difference as to whether your claim of "vandalism" has merit. Don't fear the rouge side, fear the orange side. ;-) -- JeffBillman ( talk) 19:39, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
<---If you want to believe it was yelling, go ahead. In no way could you actually prove that (beyond your personal interpretation), but hey, believe what you want. Seriously, time to move on. -- JonRidinger ( talk) 20:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
I believe the truth, the thing you deny. Seriously, look into it and im still available daily for Wikipedic help.-- Threeblur0 ( talk) 20:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Don't know if you've heard, but they've found the head. Nyttend ( talk) 04:18, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, you commented on the page I worked on for Martin L. Davey. I am still kind of new to wikipedia. My article focused on John Davey, only a little on Martin. I was looking for something little to finish that section of my paper and saw how little there was on him so decided to add what I have. My article is being published in a journal soon, when that happens I will link citation to the online site.
The majority of my references are primary source papers from the archives. Do you reference that? I referenced the two books that I am working with.
I am still working at getting formatting right. I just copied over my references in turabian style originally. I edited that with the citation template you attached.
If you have any advice for me please let me know. Nice to see a fellow Kent Stater here :) Jackknive ( talk) 06:09, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
I see; sorry, I was confused before. Do I remember rightly that you requested the nomination and thus are certain that this spot is the correct one? Nyttend ( talk) 01:44, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Looks like all of you have violated 3RR; instead of blocking everyone, I've put the page on full protection for 24 hours. In order to avoid appearing as if I protected a revision that I liked, I've not yet looked at the way things have been going back and forth; I'm going to do that now and see about participating in the discussion. Nyttend ( talk) 02:32, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
<font=3> Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and all the best in 2010! Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 23:22, 24 December 2009 (UTC) |
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This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Windham was produced and served as home to multiple notable individuals in diverse fields. Politician Laurin D. Woodworth was born in Windham and represented Ohio's 17th district in the United States Congress from 1873 until 1877. [1] Windham is also the birthplace of Thomson Jay Hudson, known for his three laws of psychic phenomena. [2] Writer Angela Johnson was raised in Windham [3] and stated her inspiration to become an author came as a student in the Windham Exempted Village School District. [4] Current Ball State Cardinals head football coach Stan Parrish lived in Windham from 1969-1974 at the beginning of his coaching career and served as head coach at Windham High School from 1972 until 1974 after serving as an assistant [5]
This is what I put together...wanted to let you see it and comment before publishing it. -- JonRidinger ( talk) 03:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Yep, same person tried adding him back once again after you undid the edit. Next time, I consider it vandalism. -- JeffBillman ( talk) 01:18, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi JonRidinger. No problem! Always happy to help. Cheers, FASTILY (TALK) 05:51, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I've done my best to participate, both by offering long comments and by reverting to what everyone minus our apparently single editor is wanting. BTW, it looks like we have an attempt to evade 3RR by a newly-registered account at MF; I'm leaving a notice at the 3RR noticeboard. Nyttend ( talk) 00:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi I dont like to read incorrect information on wiki's I may not know where to get a source for something but if it is clearnly wrong and already does not have a source it gets cut. 131.123.65.154 ( talk) 23:08, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
I thought I would just point out the mistakes then you can fix them.
131.123.65.154 (
talk) 01:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Its ok I am just doing my part to make these pages GREAT!!
131.123.65.154 (
talk) 04:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
As you can see here, I was in Kent today. Is the road Sunny Brook or Sunnybrook? I didn't pay attention to the street signs when going there, and it was dark when I left, so I don't remember what the signs said. NRIS gives the street name as "Sunny Brook", while Google Maps shows it as "Sunnybrook". Local input, please? Nyttend ( talk) 02:47, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Not all english readers use acres and hectares http://www.geocities.com/genfriendsghl/research_tips/units_of_land_measure.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.123.65.154 ( talk) 04:46, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for weeding through this article and finding my errors. JEN9841 ( talk) 13:04, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I believe that the situation with this photo is more complicated than you originally thought — see my comments at the county listings talk page. Nyttend ( talk) 21:45, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
from boldface mos page: "Boldface is used to separate the article name from ordinary text. It is typically used in the first paragraph of an article, used with proper names and common terms for the article topic, including any synonyms and acronyms. Do this only for the first occurrence of the term."
Florence is not the name of the Munroe Falls article. Florence is not the proper name of Munroe Falls. Florence is not a common term for the article topic (Munroe Falls). The article as a whole is about Munroe Falls, not historic Munroe Falls.
also from boldface mos page(s): "Use italics, not boldface, for emphasis in article text. Use boldface in the remainder of the article only for a few special uses:
* Table headers * Definition lists (example: Glossary of trucking industry terms in the United States) * Volume numbers of journal articles, in some bibliographic formats"
Florence doesn't fall into any of the above categories, so use italics (although even that seems unnecessary). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.64.103.117 ( talk) 22:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Do you honestly consider Florence another name for Munroe Falls? Have you ever heard anyone refer to Munroe Falls as Florence? Ever? Florence IS not another name for Munroe Falls. The name is historic, not current, and therefore IS not an additional name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.64.103.117 ( talk) 14:17, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help with that anonymous user, particularly in reverting the edits on my user page. I removed the refimprove templates on both the Kent, Ohio and Theodore Roosevelt High School (Kent, Ohio) articles because they really aren't needed. Both articles can still be improved in many ways, but they both are well-sourced. Their placement was done in spite, not for any actual encylcopedic reason or concern over content. It seems that when editors, particularly new editors, get in a disagreement with me, their solution is to edit the pages I edit the most. Same thing happened with a newer editor who edited the Akron, Ohio article a little while back if you remember. I feel the latest edits, particularly what was placed on your and my talk pages and in my user page could be considered Harassment. -- JonRidinger ( talk) 16:56, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
(out) I opened a sockpuppet investigation at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Smfhs photographer. Will notify all involved parties. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 21:02, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
please justify including one and not the other; i understand not listing "every educational institution," but why no library (when there is one and only one)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.64.103.117 ( talk) 02:54, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
better?
the other citations (e.g. PACE NSC) are okay, no? 3227Egraham ( talk) 20:18, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
OK so you are the anonyous editor who has like 15 additional names. I never said "every little fact" had to be cited. You misinterpreted what I said. Having a good amount of sources is fantasic, but you usually only need one, especially for non-controversial statements. Like pictures, there is such a thing as overkill. For instance, saying that the school is commonly referred to as "Stow High School" would only really need one source (and really, the athletics page itself is a source since its name is "StowHighAthletics") if any at all since using a shortened name of the school (especially in a long name like "Stow-Munroe Falls") is pretty normal and hardly unique. You also don't need to source the statement that Stow is a suburb of Akron or that the school is located in Stow. Those are pretty much a given. Really, the places where sources become an issue is when you make outstanding claims. If I remember right, this became an issue with the academic teams, particularly the JCL, which does make some pretty outstanding claims. As for your question on athletics, a general reference to the Stow athletics page would suffice for the statement that most teams have their home games at the school, since the page has schedules for each team. Again, it is not abnormal for a school to have the majority of its athletic teams play in or around the building. Having one additional citation per team that plays elsewhere (like swimming and bowling) would be appropriate as well. Also, if the fact has a marked citation one place in the article, it doesn't need to be marked every time, especially in the lead and infobox. The high school article I have used as a guide along with the Schools Wikiproject is Plano Senior High School, which is one of only 2 featured school articles.
Also, what's the deal with all these different user names? Do you keep forgetting your password or something? -- JonRidinger ( talk) 20:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jon! Have you read today's Record-Courier? Turns out that Brent Webb guy was right about being admitted to the Ravens Hall of Fame. Of course, saying so before now was original research, and-- more importantly-- it still doesn't demonstrate sufficient notability. Still, I thought you'd get a kick out of it! Cheers! -- JeffBillman ( talk) 22:50, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
I will be happy to have you help improve the page for the Northern Ohio Railway Museum as long as it is accurate. Another individual created this page without the museums knowledge and that original post was full of inacurate and incomplete info. That is why I became active in this endeaver. You can edit and add links, etc as needed as long as I can proof them before going public. My interest is in seeing that the museum and technical facts are represented accurately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Motormansteve ( talk • contribs) 06:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
I will be happy to have you help improve the page for the Northern Ohio Railway Museum as long as it is accurate. Another individual created this page without the museums knowledge and that original post was full of inacurate and incomplete info. That is why I became active in this endeaver. You can edit and add links, etc as needed as long as I can proof them before going public. My interest is in seeing that the museum and technical facts are represented accurately. Motormansteve ( talk) 06:51, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
What would you think about restoring and rewording the water department? In my mind, it would be reasonable to say simply that the department employs a large number of minors; this is likely unusual enough to merit mention, especially since that section was sourced. Nyttend ( talk) 12:25, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
I gave the user a 3RR warning and reverted his/her latest edit. I will block if s/he reverts again. And all this for an unsubstantiated claim of SEVENTH place?? "We're number seven!! We're number seven!!" Just doesn't have that much appeal to me... ;-) Thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:23, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
I've been removing onlineutah.com from all the pages it is currently on, because (a) it's spam (for a realtor, and for Google ads) and (b) it appears to be copyvio, copied from a Utah encyclopedia. It certainly shouldn't stand as a reliable source, and probably not as an EL either. I'm not reverting your reverts, but wanted to let you know the rationale behind removing the refs. tedder ( talk) 06:17, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Please refrain from the rouge side, also i can assist you when you struggle at times, im available daily so just ask.-- Threeblur0 ( talk) 18:29, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
John you shoulf be ashamed of yourself, as everyone can look back and see, im right, so ima let this roll like the Wagon Wheel at UA.-- Threeblur0 ( talk) 12:57, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
{outdent} So if Kent had won, would that mean that Beirne's edit would not have been vandalism? This isn't a straw man... it's a total non sequitur. Threeblur, you were wrong to label that edit as vandalism. It wouldn't have mattered what the overgrown rodents had done on the football field, even if Akron had beaten a real team. In other words, no matter what the Zips do on any given date (say November 20, 2009), it still won't make one lick of difference as to whether your claim of "vandalism" has merit. Don't fear the rouge side, fear the orange side. ;-) -- JeffBillman ( talk) 19:39, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
<---If you want to believe it was yelling, go ahead. In no way could you actually prove that (beyond your personal interpretation), but hey, believe what you want. Seriously, time to move on. -- JonRidinger ( talk) 20:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
I believe the truth, the thing you deny. Seriously, look into it and im still available daily for Wikipedic help.-- Threeblur0 ( talk) 20:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Don't know if you've heard, but they've found the head. Nyttend ( talk) 04:18, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, you commented on the page I worked on for Martin L. Davey. I am still kind of new to wikipedia. My article focused on John Davey, only a little on Martin. I was looking for something little to finish that section of my paper and saw how little there was on him so decided to add what I have. My article is being published in a journal soon, when that happens I will link citation to the online site.
The majority of my references are primary source papers from the archives. Do you reference that? I referenced the two books that I am working with.
I am still working at getting formatting right. I just copied over my references in turabian style originally. I edited that with the citation template you attached.
If you have any advice for me please let me know. Nice to see a fellow Kent Stater here :) Jackknive ( talk) 06:09, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
I see; sorry, I was confused before. Do I remember rightly that you requested the nomination and thus are certain that this spot is the correct one? Nyttend ( talk) 01:44, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Looks like all of you have violated 3RR; instead of blocking everyone, I've put the page on full protection for 24 hours. In order to avoid appearing as if I protected a revision that I liked, I've not yet looked at the way things have been going back and forth; I'm going to do that now and see about participating in the discussion. Nyttend ( talk) 02:32, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
<font=3> Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and all the best in 2010! Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 23:22, 24 December 2009 (UTC) |
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