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- I'll dig up references: originally, as you say, RVW published them as "Symphony in D Minor" etc, but at No. 8 or 9, because they could be confused with others he began to number those symphonies without titles. I think it was [say] "Symphony in E minor (No 6)", or "Sixth symphony in E minor" rather than "Symphony No 6 in E minor". I'm also checking Russell's reference to his atheism. Roger Allen 18:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC) (comment moved to TALK page from main page by JackME)
Hi, could you please comment on Talk:Saint George, Maine. Thanks John Vandenberg 03:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The article you moved to
Verona Island, Maine says, "The town recently lengthened its name to Verona Island, matching the name of the land form on which it was located, in a March 27, 2004 referendum
[1]."
And the link — to a state government website — seems to support this. Has it been changed back?
—wwoods 08:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I notice you have edited many templates (states) and changed the capitalization in the category/subject heading, i.e., Largest Towns, you've changed to Largest towns. On what basis are you making these changes? Is there a Wiki guideline addressing this that you know of? If so please point me to it, and if not I would and do argue against you making these wholesale changes. As an example, the main category/subject header of many of these templates is: State of Someplace, and you leave state capitalized (which it should be), but then in the sub-categories where the important element, for instance, Town, is modified by a limiter, Largest, you de-emphasize the element being delineated by removing the capitalization of that important word. These are not sentences, and should not follow sentence capitalization rules. They are instead to be considered headers or even titles, and the rules for that typically allow, even instruct, that important words should be capitalized while unimportant articles and prepositions should not be, UNLESS those articles or prepositions appear at the start of the title/phrase, so State of Someplace, and Largest Towns, would both be correct, but State Of Someplace, and largest Towns, would not be correct. To repeat what I am objecting to in your edits of these templates, the word Largest is capitalized since it begins the phrase, but the word Towns should also remain capitalized as that word IS the name of the category and certainly the important word in the title/phrase. JackME 20:41, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, As you say, these work the same as headings: the MoS states for headings 'In a heading, capitalize only the first letter of the first word and the first letter of any proper nouns, and leave all of the other letters in lowercase. Example: "Rules and regulations", not "Rules and Regulations".' Rgds, Rich Farmbrough, 10:20 24 February 2007 (GMT).
Just wondering what the reason was behind your moving Rangeley, Maine to Rangeley (town), Maine. - Dudesleeper · Talk 17:08, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, I think you may be looking at the wrong page history. I didn't rename the -Rangeley, Maine- page to -Rangeley (town), Maine- that is some unification process which has been going on long before my involvement.
- Previously as far as I can reconstruct it, that page name was -Rangeley Franklin County, Maine- and someone started the unifying process of eliminating the county name from the title of the various towns's pages name. The only thing I did recently to the -Rangeley (town), Maine- page is to edit a link on it pointing to the -Rangeley Plantation- page.
- I did rename that page from -Rangeley (plantation), Maine- to -Rangeley Plantation, Maine- since the name of the community IS Rangeley Plantation, and the previous editor had interpreted the word plantation as only descriptive, like Rangeley (town) is a descriptive indicating that the name Rangeley is a town. Whereas, to repeat myself, the name of the plantation IS Rangeley Plantation so to leave that word out of it's name is wrong, and to leave the descriptor in after changing the name is redundant and so no longer necessary, ie, Rangeley Plantation (plantation), Maine is unnecessary and that's what I changed and did so for all the plantations in Maine which are not specifically known by a single word, ie, Monhegan is a plantation but is generally and commonly known as Monhegan or Monhegan Island, not Monhegan Island Plantation so I did not alter that page and I believe it's title here on Wiki is Monhegan (plantation), Maine. Hope this answers your question.
JackME 21:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- My mistake. I was looking at the right page history, but took one of your edit summaries (redirect link name) to be the edit in which the article was moved. I was just trying to figure out why the page was uprooted from its original location of Rangeley, Maine to a new page with (town) in its name. It seems like a pointless move to me. Anyway, it was the work of Ahoerstemeier, not yourself. Apologies for the confusion. - Dudesleeper · Talk 00:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- I did rename that page from -Rangeley (plantation), Maine- to -Rangeley Plantation, Maine- since the name of the community IS Rangeley Plantation, and the previous editor had interpreted the word plantation as only descriptive, like Rangeley (town) is a descriptive indicating that the name Rangeley is a town. Whereas, to repeat myself, the name of the plantation IS Rangeley Plantation so to leave that word out of it's name is wrong, and to leave the descriptor in after changing the name is redundant and so no longer necessary, ie, Rangeley Plantation (plantation), Maine is unnecessary and that's what I changed and did so for all the plantations in Maine which are not specifically known by a single word, ie, Monhegan is a plantation but is generally and commonly known as Monhegan or Monhegan Island, not Monhegan Island Plantation so I did not alter that page and I believe it's title here on Wiki is Monhegan (plantation), Maine. Hope this answers your question.
JackME 21:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I made some edits according to your suggestions. I did find that stating the community center is on the island was a little confusing given the size of the landmass, so I restated it for clarity. Thanks for the suggestions -- the beauty of Wikipedia!
mchabe
The lead still isn't 100% correct. It talks about the distance of the cousins (plural) from the common ancestor, which is sometimes different for the two cousins. The latter is why I had "in general" in there. There's probably a way to cover that without getting overly wordy, but I don't quite have it yet. Lou Sander 03:25, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Yup, Kennedy has "Of" so that's that. Thanks for making the change. My memory probably needs rebooting or upgrading or something. There are days I certainly feel DIMM... -- Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 21:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
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It appears that on April 20th 2006 you added significantly to the Fiestaware article. The problem is that all the information you added was without references or citations. Assuming you did this in good faith, and not wanting to offend you or suggest that your contribution wasn't significant -- it leaves the reader with a lot of info that isn't verifiable.
Wikipedia:Five pillars would suggest removing information that's without references.
Again, assuming your contribution is well-meaning -- this is not meant to criticize, but to open up an opportunity to re-write the article in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines. It's a real opportunity. Thanks 842U ( talk) 14:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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Ask me a question.
Interests, and contributions here at Wikipedia: Fiesta dinnerware, Frederick Hurten Rhead, numbered US Highways, state numbered highways, Ralph Vaughan Williams, genalogy, consanguinity.
- I'll dig up references: originally, as you say, RVW published them as "Symphony in D Minor" etc, but at No. 8 or 9, because they could be confused with others he began to number those symphonies without titles. I think it was [say] "Symphony in E minor (No 6)", or "Sixth symphony in E minor" rather than "Symphony No 6 in E minor". I'm also checking Russell's reference to his atheism. Roger Allen 18:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC) (comment moved to TALK page from main page by JackME)
Hi, could you please comment on Talk:Saint George, Maine. Thanks John Vandenberg 03:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The article you moved to
Verona Island, Maine says, "The town recently lengthened its name to Verona Island, matching the name of the land form on which it was located, in a March 27, 2004 referendum
[1]."
And the link — to a state government website — seems to support this. Has it been changed back?
—wwoods 08:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I notice you have edited many templates (states) and changed the capitalization in the category/subject heading, i.e., Largest Towns, you've changed to Largest towns. On what basis are you making these changes? Is there a Wiki guideline addressing this that you know of? If so please point me to it, and if not I would and do argue against you making these wholesale changes. As an example, the main category/subject header of many of these templates is: State of Someplace, and you leave state capitalized (which it should be), but then in the sub-categories where the important element, for instance, Town, is modified by a limiter, Largest, you de-emphasize the element being delineated by removing the capitalization of that important word. These are not sentences, and should not follow sentence capitalization rules. They are instead to be considered headers or even titles, and the rules for that typically allow, even instruct, that important words should be capitalized while unimportant articles and prepositions should not be, UNLESS those articles or prepositions appear at the start of the title/phrase, so State of Someplace, and Largest Towns, would both be correct, but State Of Someplace, and largest Towns, would not be correct. To repeat what I am objecting to in your edits of these templates, the word Largest is capitalized since it begins the phrase, but the word Towns should also remain capitalized as that word IS the name of the category and certainly the important word in the title/phrase. JackME 20:41, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, As you say, these work the same as headings: the MoS states for headings 'In a heading, capitalize only the first letter of the first word and the first letter of any proper nouns, and leave all of the other letters in lowercase. Example: "Rules and regulations", not "Rules and Regulations".' Rgds, Rich Farmbrough, 10:20 24 February 2007 (GMT).
Just wondering what the reason was behind your moving Rangeley, Maine to Rangeley (town), Maine. - Dudesleeper · Talk 17:08, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, I think you may be looking at the wrong page history. I didn't rename the -Rangeley, Maine- page to -Rangeley (town), Maine- that is some unification process which has been going on long before my involvement.
- Previously as far as I can reconstruct it, that page name was -Rangeley Franklin County, Maine- and someone started the unifying process of eliminating the county name from the title of the various towns's pages name. The only thing I did recently to the -Rangeley (town), Maine- page is to edit a link on it pointing to the -Rangeley Plantation- page.
- I did rename that page from -Rangeley (plantation), Maine- to -Rangeley Plantation, Maine- since the name of the community IS Rangeley Plantation, and the previous editor had interpreted the word plantation as only descriptive, like Rangeley (town) is a descriptive indicating that the name Rangeley is a town. Whereas, to repeat myself, the name of the plantation IS Rangeley Plantation so to leave that word out of it's name is wrong, and to leave the descriptor in after changing the name is redundant and so no longer necessary, ie, Rangeley Plantation (plantation), Maine is unnecessary and that's what I changed and did so for all the plantations in Maine which are not specifically known by a single word, ie, Monhegan is a plantation but is generally and commonly known as Monhegan or Monhegan Island, not Monhegan Island Plantation so I did not alter that page and I believe it's title here on Wiki is Monhegan (plantation), Maine. Hope this answers your question.
JackME 21:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- My mistake. I was looking at the right page history, but took one of your edit summaries (redirect link name) to be the edit in which the article was moved. I was just trying to figure out why the page was uprooted from its original location of Rangeley, Maine to a new page with (town) in its name. It seems like a pointless move to me. Anyway, it was the work of Ahoerstemeier, not yourself. Apologies for the confusion. - Dudesleeper · Talk 00:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- I did rename that page from -Rangeley (plantation), Maine- to -Rangeley Plantation, Maine- since the name of the community IS Rangeley Plantation, and the previous editor had interpreted the word plantation as only descriptive, like Rangeley (town) is a descriptive indicating that the name Rangeley is a town. Whereas, to repeat myself, the name of the plantation IS Rangeley Plantation so to leave that word out of it's name is wrong, and to leave the descriptor in after changing the name is redundant and so no longer necessary, ie, Rangeley Plantation (plantation), Maine is unnecessary and that's what I changed and did so for all the plantations in Maine which are not specifically known by a single word, ie, Monhegan is a plantation but is generally and commonly known as Monhegan or Monhegan Island, not Monhegan Island Plantation so I did not alter that page and I believe it's title here on Wiki is Monhegan (plantation), Maine. Hope this answers your question.
JackME 21:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I made some edits according to your suggestions. I did find that stating the community center is on the island was a little confusing given the size of the landmass, so I restated it for clarity. Thanks for the suggestions -- the beauty of Wikipedia!
mchabe
The lead still isn't 100% correct. It talks about the distance of the cousins (plural) from the common ancestor, which is sometimes different for the two cousins. The latter is why I had "in general" in there. There's probably a way to cover that without getting overly wordy, but I don't quite have it yet. Lou Sander 03:25, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Yup, Kennedy has "Of" so that's that. Thanks for making the change. My memory probably needs rebooting or upgrading or something. There are days I certainly feel DIMM... -- Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 21:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
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It appears that on April 20th 2006 you added significantly to the Fiestaware article. The problem is that all the information you added was without references or citations. Assuming you did this in good faith, and not wanting to offend you or suggest that your contribution wasn't significant -- it leaves the reader with a lot of info that isn't verifiable.
Wikipedia:Five pillars would suggest removing information that's without references.
Again, assuming your contribution is well-meaning -- this is not meant to criticize, but to open up an opportunity to re-write the article in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines. It's a real opportunity. Thanks 842U ( talk) 14:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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