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Your edit to Shame
Hello, you reverted an extensive set of edits to this article with the explanation "fixed outdated link". Please provide more accurate explanations of your edits, and please do not alter large sections of an article without discussing on the article's discussion page, in this case Talk:Shame. Thank you. -- Shirahadasha 05:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. My intention was only to fix one link -- if anything else was deleted, it was not intended. Thank you.
Ganesham 15:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Let me state unequivocally, that I have no vendetta against the subject of any article on Wikipedia. I find your allegation of a personal vendetta disturbing. Please read WP:AGF.
At this point, I'm tempted to begin a mediation and/or arbitration process in order to try to get my reputation cleared.
Would you be willing to participate?
TheRingess ( talk) 15:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Ringess, I've read through the archives for this page where you clearly showed bad faith with crossed out text all over the place as you rethought your actions again and again. No I'm not interested in getting into any arbitration process with you. You seem to like fighting about this girl. Why don't you take her off of your watch list and focus on other topics for which you don't have a personal vendetta, which according to the archives involves a problem with your mutual spiritual community. I have no problem with the notice for more info being there, but with you putting it there after all the mess you have already caused to this entry.
Ganesham 05:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I offered mediation since we cannot agree about your statements. I accept that you decline the offer to have a neutral 3rd party or parties mediate a discussion between us. Therefore I will not pursue mediation. The purpose of mediation would not have been to continue to fight over the article, but to give you a chance to present your arguments and discuss their merit with both me and any other interested neutral parties. I will state once again unequivocally and emphatically that I have never participated in a personal vendetta against any subject of any article on Wikipedia, nor have I engaged in a personal vendetta against any other fellow editor. I will also state, that I do not "enjoy fighting" about any person/subject. Nor will I voluntarily agree to stop editing any article. I agree to abide by Wikipedia's core content policies of neutrality and attributability. I trust that my edits will speak for themselves and be evaluated/judged by the community in an appropriate fashion. I feel that I can no longer be objective regarding your allegations, so I will cease to discuss this as I am afraid that I will inadvertently violate Wikipedia's core policy of civility. I am truly sorry that we cannot seem to reach an agreement regarding your allegations. Fundamentally, my position is, and shall remain, that I am innocent of the charges you wish to level against me.
Should you change your mind about mediation, and initiate the process, I will be more than willing to participate. TheRingess ( talk) 19:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know either TheRingess or Janis personally, outside of reading Janis's books and educational website resources, but having read through the archives of TheRingess's nomination to delete the article about Janis and seeing on his contrib page (ie. march 25, 2007) how he is clearly stalking any of her noncommercial educational pages to delete from topics where they are appropriate, I am sufficiently convinced that TheRingess is acting from personal vendetta, or as the DRV archive suggests, on behalf of a spiritual group that has been harassing Janis due to her writings or some such. And no, I'm not interested in getting involved with TheRingess further in mediation or otherwise, but do seek to rectify injustice. Ganesham 16:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Even though you have stated an unwillingness to participate in a discussion involving a neutral 3rd party mediator, I have gone ahead and opened a case. According to Wikipedia policy you are under absolutely no obligation to participate. I will once again state that I am in no way involved in any personal vendetta against any person. A mediation will help me to see where I might have violated Wikipedia's content policies and suggest a course of action for rectifying any mistakes I might have made. I invite you to participate. Here's a link to the case page Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-03-28 Guru Gita TheRingess ( talk) 16:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hello:) I have decided to take the case TheRingess is talking about. I hope that I will be able to help out. Peace:) -- James, La gloria è a dio 23:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks Ganesham for your support. It's nice to know I'm not the only one who has had problems with Her Majesty. I intend to go to Dispute resolution, but will probably take your advice and change my name. Has it worked in your case, over a period of time?
Sardaka 10:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
If she hasn't already put your favorite topics on her watch list it should work, but if she has, then she'll probably sniff you out. She just wiped out years worth of carefully researched links on the Bhagavad Gita page, as she's done to so many other topics. Fortunately at least on that page there was someone knowledgeable enough to reset the links as being according to Wikipedia guidelines. TheRingess seems to be like a vandal who accuses other vandals and calls all links spam. Definitely not an asset to Wikipedia. Oh well. Such is life.
Ganesham 00:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Regarding your allegations and seeming unwillingness to participate in the normal Wikipedia Dispute Resolution processes, I have on the advice of a neutral editor, filed an incident report here. TheRingess ( talk) 07:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Please forward further discussion on this matter to this discussion thread. Thanks! ~a ( user • talk • contribs) 17:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Just a note to say that I don't have time to pursue this matter. If no Wikipedia editors or administrators are interested in checking TheRingess's actions in following innocent people and deleting their works or in deleting all links from many topics, then Wikipedia will be the worse for it, but it is not my job and no longer my interest to engage with someone who is half cry-baby and half dictator. I'm signing off and no longer participating in Wikipedia as a contributor. Please don't leave messages for me here, because I won't be checking for them. Ganesham 21:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I was curious and looked to find that lo and behold, TheRingess and his thug buddy editor Buddhipriya went into Wikipedia today and removed every link they could find to the applicable free educational resources offered by the person that TheRingess is already on record as having a vendetta against -- he and Buddhipriya participate in a spiritual group (on and off Wikipedia) that has had a vendetta against the author because she wrote an unauthorized book about their path. This author, of whom I am a fan, is the one who created a website of completely free educational spiritual resources -- she's also the author of Spirituality For Dummies. TheRingess is on record as fighting to remove her wikipedia entry that was created by another fan from England, and which survived TheRingess's deletion attempts. I've added several appropriate links to her resources in appropriate topics, and other editors have apparently added others. Today, TheRingess even deleted two very useful links to her site without signing in, showing up with his isp# at: [ [1]], and for good measure, TheRingess deceptivly welcomed himself on his own isp's welcome page: [ [2]] (I've received email from TheRingess and know that this is his ISP#). Here is one example from Buddhipriya's rampage: [ [3]], where he removes a page with the completely free and very useful text and audio of Rudram, with a note saying, "commercial linkspam selling products" -- something he knows is false if he even looked at the page. Here are more attacks from Buddhipriya just today, each with an insult to the resource: [ [4]], [ [5]], and [ [6]] -- all made today after Buddhipriya supported TheRingess in his various problems with editors. I'm back to retirement from contributing to Wikipedia. Go ahead and let these people ruin Wikipedia with personal vendettas if that is fine with you other editors and administrators. Ganesham
Welcome!
Hello, Ganesham, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- How to edit a page
- Help pages
- Tutorial
- How to write a great article
- Manual of Style
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Your edit to Shame
Hello, you reverted an extensive set of edits to this article with the explanation "fixed outdated link". Please provide more accurate explanations of your edits, and please do not alter large sections of an article without discussing on the article's discussion page, in this case Talk:Shame. Thank you. -- Shirahadasha 05:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. My intention was only to fix one link -- if anything else was deleted, it was not intended. Thank you.
Ganesham 15:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Let me state unequivocally, that I have no vendetta against the subject of any article on Wikipedia. I find your allegation of a personal vendetta disturbing. Please read WP:AGF.
At this point, I'm tempted to begin a mediation and/or arbitration process in order to try to get my reputation cleared.
Would you be willing to participate?
TheRingess ( talk) 15:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Ringess, I've read through the archives for this page where you clearly showed bad faith with crossed out text all over the place as you rethought your actions again and again. No I'm not interested in getting into any arbitration process with you. You seem to like fighting about this girl. Why don't you take her off of your watch list and focus on other topics for which you don't have a personal vendetta, which according to the archives involves a problem with your mutual spiritual community. I have no problem with the notice for more info being there, but with you putting it there after all the mess you have already caused to this entry.
Ganesham 05:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I offered mediation since we cannot agree about your statements. I accept that you decline the offer to have a neutral 3rd party or parties mediate a discussion between us. Therefore I will not pursue mediation. The purpose of mediation would not have been to continue to fight over the article, but to give you a chance to present your arguments and discuss their merit with both me and any other interested neutral parties. I will state once again unequivocally and emphatically that I have never participated in a personal vendetta against any subject of any article on Wikipedia, nor have I engaged in a personal vendetta against any other fellow editor. I will also state, that I do not "enjoy fighting" about any person/subject. Nor will I voluntarily agree to stop editing any article. I agree to abide by Wikipedia's core content policies of neutrality and attributability. I trust that my edits will speak for themselves and be evaluated/judged by the community in an appropriate fashion. I feel that I can no longer be objective regarding your allegations, so I will cease to discuss this as I am afraid that I will inadvertently violate Wikipedia's core policy of civility. I am truly sorry that we cannot seem to reach an agreement regarding your allegations. Fundamentally, my position is, and shall remain, that I am innocent of the charges you wish to level against me.
Should you change your mind about mediation, and initiate the process, I will be more than willing to participate. TheRingess ( talk) 19:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know either TheRingess or Janis personally, outside of reading Janis's books and educational website resources, but having read through the archives of TheRingess's nomination to delete the article about Janis and seeing on his contrib page (ie. march 25, 2007) how he is clearly stalking any of her noncommercial educational pages to delete from topics where they are appropriate, I am sufficiently convinced that TheRingess is acting from personal vendetta, or as the DRV archive suggests, on behalf of a spiritual group that has been harassing Janis due to her writings or some such. And no, I'm not interested in getting involved with TheRingess further in mediation or otherwise, but do seek to rectify injustice. Ganesham 16:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Even though you have stated an unwillingness to participate in a discussion involving a neutral 3rd party mediator, I have gone ahead and opened a case. According to Wikipedia policy you are under absolutely no obligation to participate. I will once again state that I am in no way involved in any personal vendetta against any person. A mediation will help me to see where I might have violated Wikipedia's content policies and suggest a course of action for rectifying any mistakes I might have made. I invite you to participate. Here's a link to the case page Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-03-28 Guru Gita TheRingess ( talk) 16:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hello:) I have decided to take the case TheRingess is talking about. I hope that I will be able to help out. Peace:) -- James, La gloria è a dio 23:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
James, La gloria è a dio has smiled at you! Smiles promote
WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{
subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Thanks Ganesham for your support. It's nice to know I'm not the only one who has had problems with Her Majesty. I intend to go to Dispute resolution, but will probably take your advice and change my name. Has it worked in your case, over a period of time?
Sardaka 10:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
If she hasn't already put your favorite topics on her watch list it should work, but if she has, then she'll probably sniff you out. She just wiped out years worth of carefully researched links on the Bhagavad Gita page, as she's done to so many other topics. Fortunately at least on that page there was someone knowledgeable enough to reset the links as being according to Wikipedia guidelines. TheRingess seems to be like a vandal who accuses other vandals and calls all links spam. Definitely not an asset to Wikipedia. Oh well. Such is life.
Ganesham 00:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Regarding your allegations and seeming unwillingness to participate in the normal Wikipedia Dispute Resolution processes, I have on the advice of a neutral editor, filed an incident report here. TheRingess ( talk) 07:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Please forward further discussion on this matter to this discussion thread. Thanks! ~a ( user • talk • contribs) 17:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Just a note to say that I don't have time to pursue this matter. If no Wikipedia editors or administrators are interested in checking TheRingess's actions in following innocent people and deleting their works or in deleting all links from many topics, then Wikipedia will be the worse for it, but it is not my job and no longer my interest to engage with someone who is half cry-baby and half dictator. I'm signing off and no longer participating in Wikipedia as a contributor. Please don't leave messages for me here, because I won't be checking for them. Ganesham 21:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I was curious and looked to find that lo and behold, TheRingess and his thug buddy editor Buddhipriya went into Wikipedia today and removed every link they could find to the applicable free educational resources offered by the person that TheRingess is already on record as having a vendetta against -- he and Buddhipriya participate in a spiritual group (on and off Wikipedia) that has had a vendetta against the author because she wrote an unauthorized book about their path. This author, of whom I am a fan, is the one who created a website of completely free educational spiritual resources -- she's also the author of Spirituality For Dummies. TheRingess is on record as fighting to remove her wikipedia entry that was created by another fan from England, and which survived TheRingess's deletion attempts. I've added several appropriate links to her resources in appropriate topics, and other editors have apparently added others. Today, TheRingess even deleted two very useful links to her site without signing in, showing up with his isp# at: [ [1]], and for good measure, TheRingess deceptivly welcomed himself on his own isp's welcome page: [ [2]] (I've received email from TheRingess and know that this is his ISP#). Here is one example from Buddhipriya's rampage: [ [3]], where he removes a page with the completely free and very useful text and audio of Rudram, with a note saying, "commercial linkspam selling products" -- something he knows is false if he even looked at the page. Here are more attacks from Buddhipriya just today, each with an insult to the resource: [ [4]], [ [5]], and [ [6]] -- all made today after Buddhipriya supported TheRingess in his various problems with editors. I'm back to retirement from contributing to Wikipedia. Go ahead and let these people ruin Wikipedia with personal vendettas if that is fine with you other editors and administrators. Ganesham