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A special set of rules applies to certain topic areas, which are referred to as contentious topics. These are specially designated topics that tend to attract more persistent disruptive editing than the rest of the project and have been designated as contentious topics by the Arbitration Committee. When editing a contentious topic, Wikipedia’s norms and policies are more strictly enforced, and Wikipedia administrators have special powers in order to reduce disruption to the project.
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== Welcome! ==
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Happy editing! Selfstudier ( talk) 13:13, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Heya,
- Thanks for the messages when I saw the warning before I avoided editing any articles that had the tag and just tried to provide suggested edits, did I edit a flagged one too? Galdrack ( talk) 15:33, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @ Selfstudier,
- I've been editing a bit and using Wiki for ages but I don't have 500+ edits yet so I dunno what exactly is the correct procedure for this. Amongst a lot of the recent spam I noticed user "Anonymous Observer1945" has been making a lot of large unsourced edits to pages of politicians/journalists critical of Israel. The reason I'm primarily flagging this is that the users first edits are from 12FEB2024, where they seem to have performed as many small edits as they could before achieving the 500 edits required to edit locked articles.
- The account seems to me as a very likely spam account but again I didn't know which way to go with this.
Galdrack (
talk) 13:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Minor edits are OK as long as they are an actual improvement to the article, most, perhaps not all, of their early edits appear to be an improvement even if it's only grammatical or a style issue. It's not that hard to get 500 edits in this way, you could try it yourself :)
- What
large unsourced edits
did you have in mind? Selfstudier ( talk) 13:46, 1 May 2024 (UTC)- Primarily around the topic of antisemitism, the articles on Jeremy Corbyn, Sadiq Khan, Mohammed el-Kurd, George Galloway amongst others, often there will be a source though not always and even then of somewhat biased/dubious perspective to the topic.
- Largely it seems the minor edits were acheived to gain access to editing locked articles as the edits there have been much more frequent since and also much lengthier in text, with the recent increase in linked accounts on the topic I figured this seemed like an exact example of such an account.
Galdrack (
talk) 14:55, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's possible, time will tell. If you see substantive edits being added without a source, feel free to add a {{cn}} tag.
Selfstudier (
talk) 15:18, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, how does that CN tag work? I've tried reading the instructions on Wiki but I find them difficult to follow.
Galdrack (
talk) 08:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Just type that what I wrote there as you see it, next to the uncited material. Selfstudier ( talk) 09:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, how does that CN tag work? I've tried reading the instructions on Wiki but I find them difficult to follow.
Galdrack (
talk) 08:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's possible, time will tell. If you see substantive edits being added without a source, feel free to add a {{cn}} tag.
Selfstudier (
talk) 15:18, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Hello. Concerning Political views of Generation Z, someone else recently tried to remove that same section that you removed—and they were reverted by two different people. I suggest that you revert your edit and start a discussion in Talk in order to establish consensus on this controversial topic. Another reverter suggested the same thing to the previous remover. Thanks. Trakking ( talk) 11:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @ Trakking,
- I'd suggest the opposite as the addition was only made on 13 March 2024 by a single user with now 2 different users reverting the addition, further the explanations for re-adding the section have been an appeal to the fact it's present and less the need/applicability of the section. I'm fine with making a talk page about the topic and it's addition/removal though leaving it added while engaging in the discussion doesn't make much sense as it isn't an integral part of the page or have a particular longevity. Galdrack ( talk) 11:43, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi Galdrack! I noticed your contributions and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. I hope you like it here and decide to stay.
As you get started, you may find this short tutorial helpful:
Alternatively, the contributing to Wikipedia page covers the same topics.
If you have any questions, we have a friendly space where experienced editors can help you here:
If you are not sure where to help out, you can find a task here:
Happy editing! -- Kmhkmh ( talk)
You have recently edited a page related to the Arab–Israeli conflict, a topic designated as contentious. This is a brief introduction to contentious topics and does not imply that there are any issues with your editing.
A special set of rules applies to certain topic areas, which are referred to as contentious topics. These are specially designated topics that tend to attract more persistent disruptive editing than the rest of the project and have been designated as contentious topics by the Arbitration Committee. When editing a contentious topic, Wikipedia’s norms and policies are more strictly enforced, and Wikipedia administrators have special powers in order to reduce disruption to the project.
Within contentious topics, editors should edit carefully and constructively, refrain from disrupting the encyclopedia, and:
- adhere to the purposes of Wikipedia;
- comply with all applicable policies and guidelines;
- follow editorial and behavioural best practice;
- comply with any page restrictions in force within the area of conflict; and
- refrain from gaming the system.
Additionally, you must be logged-in, have 500 edits and an account age of 30 days, and are not allowed to make more than 1 revert within 24 hours on a page within this topic.
Editors are advised to err on the side of caution if unsure whether making a particular edit is consistent with these expectations. If you have any questions about contentious topics procedures you may ask them at the arbitration clerks' noticeboard or you may learn more about this contentious topic here. You may also choose to note which contentious topics you know about by using the {{ Ctopics/aware}} template.
== Welcome! ==
Hi Galdrack! I noticed your contributions and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. I hope you like it here and decide to stay.
The rule that affects you most as new or IP editor is the prohibition on making any edit related to Palestine/Israel conflict unless you are logged into an account and that account is at least 30 days old and has made at least 500 edits.
This prohibition is broadly construed, so it includes edits such as adding the reaction of a public figure concerning the conflict to their article or noting the position of a company or organization as it relates to the conflict.
The exception to this rule is that you may request a specific change to an article on the talk page of that article or at this page. Please ensure that your requested edit complies with our neutral point of view and reliable sourcing policies, and if the edit is about a living person our policies on biographies of living people as well.
Any edits you make contrary to these rules are likely to be reverted, and repeated violations can lead to your being blocked from editing.
As you get started, you may find this short tutorial helpful:
Alternatively, the contributing to Wikipedia page covers the same topics.
If you have any questions, we have a friendly space where experienced editors can help you here:
If you are not sure where to help out, you can find a task here:
Happy editing! Selfstudier ( talk) 13:13, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Heya,
- Thanks for the messages when I saw the warning before I avoided editing any articles that had the tag and just tried to provide suggested edits, did I edit a flagged one too? Galdrack ( talk) 15:33, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @ Selfstudier,
- I've been editing a bit and using Wiki for ages but I don't have 500+ edits yet so I dunno what exactly is the correct procedure for this. Amongst a lot of the recent spam I noticed user "Anonymous Observer1945" has been making a lot of large unsourced edits to pages of politicians/journalists critical of Israel. The reason I'm primarily flagging this is that the users first edits are from 12FEB2024, where they seem to have performed as many small edits as they could before achieving the 500 edits required to edit locked articles.
- The account seems to me as a very likely spam account but again I didn't know which way to go with this.
Galdrack (
talk) 13:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Minor edits are OK as long as they are an actual improvement to the article, most, perhaps not all, of their early edits appear to be an improvement even if it's only grammatical or a style issue. It's not that hard to get 500 edits in this way, you could try it yourself :)
- What
large unsourced edits
did you have in mind? Selfstudier ( talk) 13:46, 1 May 2024 (UTC)- Primarily around the topic of antisemitism, the articles on Jeremy Corbyn, Sadiq Khan, Mohammed el-Kurd, George Galloway amongst others, often there will be a source though not always and even then of somewhat biased/dubious perspective to the topic.
- Largely it seems the minor edits were acheived to gain access to editing locked articles as the edits there have been much more frequent since and also much lengthier in text, with the recent increase in linked accounts on the topic I figured this seemed like an exact example of such an account.
Galdrack (
talk) 14:55, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's possible, time will tell. If you see substantive edits being added without a source, feel free to add a {{cn}} tag.
Selfstudier (
talk) 15:18, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, how does that CN tag work? I've tried reading the instructions on Wiki but I find them difficult to follow.
Galdrack (
talk) 08:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Just type that what I wrote there as you see it, next to the uncited material. Selfstudier ( talk) 09:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, how does that CN tag work? I've tried reading the instructions on Wiki but I find them difficult to follow.
Galdrack (
talk) 08:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's possible, time will tell. If you see substantive edits being added without a source, feel free to add a {{cn}} tag.
Selfstudier (
talk) 15:18, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Hello. Concerning Political views of Generation Z, someone else recently tried to remove that same section that you removed—and they were reverted by two different people. I suggest that you revert your edit and start a discussion in Talk in order to establish consensus on this controversial topic. Another reverter suggested the same thing to the previous remover. Thanks. Trakking ( talk) 11:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @ Trakking,
- I'd suggest the opposite as the addition was only made on 13 March 2024 by a single user with now 2 different users reverting the addition, further the explanations for re-adding the section have been an appeal to the fact it's present and less the need/applicability of the section. I'm fine with making a talk page about the topic and it's addition/removal though leaving it added while engaging in the discussion doesn't make much sense as it isn't an integral part of the page or have a particular longevity. Galdrack ( talk) 11:43, 2 May 2024 (UTC)