Welcome to Wikipedia from WikiProject Anatomy! We're a group of editors who strive to improve the quality of anatomy articles here on Wikipedia. One of our members has noticed that you are involved in editing anatomy articles; it's great to have a new interested editor on board. In your wiki-voyages, a few things that may be relevant to editing wikipedia articles are:
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Hello Figgep - sorry that your edits have been reverted but the reasons for these are in my mind justified. In Fat I have just incorporated a little info from the website you link and used the link as a ref in the section. I also added one to the External links on another page. These web links are helpful and they could be added to any relevant articles in the External links section - then any editor could access them and use info from them. Perhaps the individual protein content could be placed in a separate section on pages but this needs to be written up and not just cut and pasted. Thank you -- Iztwoz ( talk) 20:45, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Adding information on Anatomy project pages: Thanks for feed-back. New here and trying to understand how I best can contribute. I think the knowledge-based information that is present in the Human Protein Atlas (and a large number of scientific publications in peer reviewed journals) regarding normal human organs and tissues would be a basic and very important piece of information to the description as to what is the basis for differences between different organs, tissue and cell types. Is it the format or the content I have used that has lead to your reverting of my text?? The references given should be absolute adequate!?!
OK, great with your both response, thanks! Still learning and for that matter still not knowing how/where to communicate back on the above "messages" you wrote! Now in some "source editing" mode on my User talk:Figgep page and just trying.....So, this is what I will do for starters, I will try write up a brief text on the essence of results from protein profiling of human organs. I do think this does belong to the lead for each organ (guessing what here is termed WP:LEAD), but will begin with putting the text under a new subheading under "Structure" as suggested. As I see, the format for these pages are not fully congruent, but this will do for starters. I will also be happy to further on write a more focussed article under "Protein expression in human organs" as you suggested.
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Having your and Toms earlier feed-back in mind, I have now tried to write a bit more comprehensive and structured short text on basic gene expression in normal human organs/tissues. I tested to do this with "Testicles", so that we can agree on a format that fits well in, before I start on other organs and tissue types. I still think this is fundamental information and could/should be in the lead of descriptive organ pages (at least those with a specific "Human XXXXX" page). One question is how to best reference to the corresponding organ page at the Human Protein Atlas. This is central and now I tried with an external webpage link after the subheading. Not sure that is best..... One possibility further on could be to add a pie chart and perhaps a few immunohistochemistry examples of proteins specifically expressed in the given organ type, and link from these. Just having it under "External links" or "See also" feels insufficient. Thankful for feed-back!
Having your and Iztwoz earlier feed-back in mind, I have now tried to write a bit more comprehensive and structured short text on basic gene expression in normal human organs/tissues. I tested to do this with "Testicles", so that we can agree on a format that fits well in, before I start on other organs and tissue types. I still think this is fundamental information and could/should be in the lead of descriptive organ pages (at least those with a specific "Human XXXXX" page). One question is how to best reference to the corresponding organ page at the Human Protein Atlas. This is central and now I tried with an external webpage link after the subheading. Not sure that is best..... One possibility further on could be to add a pie chart and perhaps a few immunohistochemistry examples of proteins specifically expressed in the given organ type, and link from these. Just having it under "External links" or "See also" feels insufficient. Thankful for feed-back!
Hi. I'm just an editor, I'm Portuguese and my english is not good enough. I saw your post on Iztwoz Talk page. Your edit was out of place. You wrote something about genes on structure chapter, external appearence... I suggest you to put it on embriology chapter or you can create a new chapter about genetic. Cheers Doc Elisa ✉
Hi and thank you ✉. Not sure where is best to put this information, first tried to add it in the lead, then after suggestion from other editors tried to add it under "Structure". It is basic information as it describes what fraction of our genes are expressed in the testicle and how many of these genes are specifically expressed in the testicle. Such genes are of course vital to both function, anatomy and histology of the normal testis but also a fundament for understanding diseases that effect the testicles
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Thank you. Drm310 🍁 ( talk) 19:45, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for showing me how to do things right here Drm310 Figgep ( talk) 06:41, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Figgep ( talk) 19:53, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi, not sure if this is best way to respond and comment on your comments, but will try.....Wrote a bit longer background on Fuhghettaboutit talk page. @ Tigraan: Firstly, Tigraan wrote the below:
Thank you, but please, I understand that "A dictionary of synonyms is not enough to magically not be a copyright violation anymore", and that is exactly why all contributions I have written the last two days have been off the top of my head to avoid both copyright issues and plagiarism! If the goal is to keep text concise and informative, there are certain formats of sentences that can be preferred. Would be extremely happy for constructive feed-back as to how you would modify this type of text! Will check up on compatible licenses and donations of copyrights from us, but for now I will avoid copying and just write text with my own words.
@ ColinFine: The ColinFine wrote the below:
Thank you, I was almost expecting more. The questions you raise I think are fine and my response to firstly verifiability, would be that all facts and data that I write about have been published in the top peer reviewed scientific journals (which are also cited in my texts), mainly in articles published in Science which, alongside with the Nature journal, is the most renowned journal publishing scientific knowledge. Secondly, it is not my own work, the knowledge I am trying to add comes from 1200 man years spent on the Human Protein Atlas, a non commercial academic project funded by a non-profit organisation. There is no COI to transmit the publicly available data and knowledge provided in scientific journals or the HPA website! Figgep ( talk) 19:55, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
@ IiKkEe @IiKkEe Just a short acknowledgement that I have read your analytical comments which I find full of insight and interesting. Much appreciated and let me just think a bit and then get back to you with my views and comments on these important issues. I do understand that what we all want is that Wikipedia provides a full bodied and truthful resource, the ultimate source for information. Will get back to you with more thoughts within the next couple of days, thanks!! Figgep ( talk) 19:31, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
@ IiKkEe: @ IiKkEe Just thanked you and wrote a few comments and questions on the testicle talk page (do you get notice when I do that?). Will continue to try and understand how to "read" the view history function so that I better can see what people change and if they add any comment as to why they change/modify my additions. Will also continue to add to new pages and go through the ones I have added to. Do you have group discussions with people like IdreamofJeanie, LT Tom, Iztwoz and so? Figgep ( talk) 08:54, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
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(cur | prev)08:09, 19 September 2017 Iztwoz (talk | contribs) m . . (41,824 bytes) (-1) . . (→Gene and protein expression: typos) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 08:07, 19 September 2017 Iztwoz (talk | contribs) . . (41,825 bytes) (-702) . . (Rm repeated information and merged rest to its own section) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 07:53, 19 September 2017 Figgep (talk | contribs) m . . (42,527 bytes) (+2,126) . . (Added a paragraph "Genes and proteins expressed in primary cell types" with brief text + appropriate references to source of information. As proposed on the talk page.) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit)
(cur | prev) 16:54, 15 September 2017 KolbertBot (talk | contribs) m . . (40,401 bytes) (+4) . . (Bot: HTTP→HTTPS) (undo)
(cur | prev) 19:33, 14 September 2017 Iztwoz (talk | contribs) . . (40,397 bytes) (+21) . . (→Gene and protein expression: WL) (undo | thank). (cur | prev) 19:26, 14 September 2017 Iztwoz (talk | contribs) . . (40,376 bytes) (+128) . . (→Gene and protein expression: changed external link to ref) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 15:14, 14 September 2017 Figgep (talk | contribs) m . . (40,248 bytes) (+32) . . (added a few internal links) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit)
(cur | prev) 15:05, 14 September 2017 Figgep (talk | contribs) . . (40,216 bytes) (+1,653) . . (added a brief paragraph on gene expression landscape that is a fundament for testicle anatomy, histology and normal function) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit)
(cur | prev) 17:08, 13 September 2017 Jarble (talk | contribs) m . . (38,563 bytes) (+381) . . (→External appearance: adding a reference) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 14:29, 13 September 2017 IdreamofJeanie (talk | contribs) . . (38,182 bytes) (-2,295) . . (Undid revision 800428229 by Figgep (talk)) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 13:51, 13 September 2017 Figgep (talk | contribs) . . (40,477 bytes) (+2,295) . . (Added a new subheading "Expression of genes and proteins" under the "Structure" heading, with text describing the gene expression landscape in testicles + references) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit)
(cur | prev) 20:10, 12 September 2017 Iztwoz (talk | contribs) . . (38,182 bytes) (-1,929) . . (Undid revision 800260035 by Figgep (talk)rm out of place cut and paste info and likewise external link) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 12:00, 12 September 2017 Figgep (talk | contribs) m . . (40,111 bytes) (+1,929) . . (Added brief description of proteins expressed in human testis with emphasis on testis specific genes + references + one external link to testis histology) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit)
Regards IiKkEe ( talk) 15:09, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi IiKkEe, thanks for your help in trying to make me understand this world a bit better! I appreciate it! So firstly, this is the correct place to write an answer/comment to your two comments on 1) if I had used "View history" and 2) the 12 relevant edits that you pasted for me to see !? (and answering without double colons, correct!?). So, all what is discussed right here should be limited to the "Testicle" wiki page, for more personal questions, I write on peoples own talk pages (?) So, for view history, yes I do look at that but still have a hard time really seeing there what exact people have modified and if there is any comment as to why someone has modified. I have, however, looked at the latest version of the "testicle" page and I think it works (content is good, but I would have used the other words/language that I had from the beginning), Question: should references in the reference list be given twice, i.e. can´t the same ref number be used in the text several times and only point to one entry in the ref list? (as now 8 and 10 are same / 9 and 12 are same) Figgep ( talk) 08:46, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Figgep, I appreciate the time you've taken to learn our ways :). I can see you're having some difficulty/confusion with talk pages (I keep an eye on most anatomy articles)... we talk a lot here, sometimes more than editing, as we care very deeply about the quality of articles. Discussion almost always occurs on "Talk" pages. Some general pointers:
Hope that helps, -- Tom (LT) ( talk) 10:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Firstly, I will focus on normal organs and tissues, which belongs well to anatomy (and histology), will also want to write about cells in a tissue context and on the disease side I will center on cancer. Moreover, I would want to contribute to the gene/protein pages that are on wiki, but since that is such a large number, it needs some more thinking before, as for now just testing on a few. Figgep ( talk) 10:27, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Best! Figgep ( talk) 11:55, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks again IiKkEe, I am beginning to make good use of the "View history" possibility to view and follow what has happened on a page. It also gives a good feeling as to how "popular" certain pages are. Figgep ( talk) 15:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Just amazing, been clicking around looking at different stats and other meta data, thanks for pointing this out! Figgep ( talk) 17:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
As you have a COI please stop adding your site to the EL section. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 22:20, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, so I do not think that I am in a situation in which I am involved in multiple interests, financial or otherwise, one of which could possibly corrupt my motivation or decision-making regarding my wish to spread knowledge from my experience and what is available at the Human Protein Atlas. How do I get consensus? How can I contribute to Wikipedia? Figgep ( talk) 15:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, I hear what you both say and although I don´t agree, if both of you say so I will not add anymore external links to the Human Protein Atlas. Hopefully there are many many more people who would appreciate an easy link to the HPA database and hopefully someone else will add it in the future. Figgep ( talk) 08:29, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
You added it again. [3]
This is your final warning. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 03:03, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Figgep I am responding to the ping. I think there are a few of things you are not understanding about Wikipedia. Let me see if I can lay them out quickly for you:
That's all. You can see User:Jytdog/How for a more elaborated version of the above, that describes how Wikipedia really works. You can reply here, if you want to discuss any of that, or ask any questions. Jytdog ( talk) 20:26, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hello WikiProject Anatomy participant! This is our sixth newsletter, documenting what's going on in WikiProject Anatomy, news, current projects and other items of interest.
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Yours truly, -- Tom (LT) ( talk) 10:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
new good articles since last newsletter include Thyroid, Hypoglossal nerve, Axillary arch, Human brain, Cerebrospinal fluid, Accessory nerve, Gallbladder, and Interventricular foramina (neuroanatomy) | |
I write an Introduction to Anatomy on Wikipedia in the Journal of Anatomy [4] | |
Vagina receives a lot of attention on its way to good article status. | |
We reach two projects goals of 20 good articles, and less than half of our articles as stubs, in July 2017. [5] | |
A discussion about two preferred section titles takes place here. |
Seeing as we have so many new members, and a constant stream of new editors to our articles, I would like to write in this issue about how our project and articles are arranged.
The main page for WikiProject Anatomy is here. We are a WikiProject, which is a group of editors interested in editing and maintaining anatomy articles. Our editors come from all sorts of disciplines, from academically trained anatomists, students, and lay readers, to experienced Wikipedia editors. Based on previous discussions, members of our project have chosen to focus mainly on human anatomy ( [6]), with a separate project for animal anatomy ( WP:ANAN). A WikiProject has no specific rights or abilities on Wikipedia, however it does allow a central venue for discussion on different issues where interested editors can be asked to contribute, collaborate, and perhaps reach a consensus.
Wikipedia has about 5,500,000 articles. Of these, about 20,000 fall under our project, about 5,000 of which are text-containing articles. Articles are manually assigned by editors as relating to our project (many using the rater tool). As well as articles, other Wikipedia pages in our project include, lists, disambiguation pages, and redirects. Our articles are improving over time, and you can have a look at our goals and progress, or last newsletter, to get a better idea about this.
Our articles are structured according to the manual of style, specifically here. The manual of style is a guideline, which "is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply", and prescribes the layout of anatomy articles, most of which follow it.
Our articles are organised in a particular way. Most articles have a infobox in its lead, describing key characteristics about the article. Because we have so many articles, articles are often linked together in different ways. An article tends to focus on the primary topic it is written about. Further information can be linked like this, or piped ( like this). We use navboxes, which are the boxes at the bottom of articles providing links to similar topics, as well as hatnotes. Typical hatnotes in articles include {{ main}}, {{ see also}} and {{ further}}. This lets us link to relevant and related articles. The bottom of articles also shows categories, which store groups of related articles.
For interested editors, our project offers a number of additional tools to help edit our articles. On our main page appears a log of the most edited recent articles. An automatic list of recent changes to all our articles is here. We have a list of the most popular pages ( WP:ANAT500). To keep abreast of news and discussions, it is best to monitor our talk page, newsletters, and our article alerts, which automatically lists deletion, good article, featured article, and move proposals. We also have a open tasks page for editors to create lists of tasks that other editors can collaborate with. Articles are also manually assigned to a "discipline", so interested editors in for example, gross anatomy, histology, or embryology can easily locate articles via here.
Our project has all sorts of smaller items that editors may or may not know about, including a barnstar, user box ({{ User WPAnatomy}}), welcoming template ({{ WPANATOMY welcome}}) and fairly comprehensive listing of templates ( here).
We are always happy to help out, and I invite new editors, or for those with any questions relating to how to get around the confusing environment that is Wikipedia, to post on our talk page or, for a kind introduction to questions, at the WP:TEAHOUSE.
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Hello WikiProject Anatomy participant! This is our seventh newsletter, documenting what's going on in WikiProject Anatomy, news, current projects and other items of interest.
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new good articles since last newsletter include Epiglottis, Human nose, Pancreas, Prostate, Thymus, Trachea, T tubule, Ureter and Vagina, with Anatomical terms of location also awaiting review | |
A made-up eponymous term is used in our article that eventually makes it in to university anatomy teaching slides and a journal article | |
We reach a project goal of 150 B-class articles in July 2020, increasing by about 50% over five years, and are one good article away from our goal of 40 GAs, doubling over the last five years | |
In the real world, Terminologia Anatomica 2 and Terminologia Embryologica 2 are released ( [7], [8]). Terminologia Anatomica 2 is now included in anatomy article infoboxes, and there is ongoing discussion about updating TE as well | |
A beautiful new barnstar is released ({{ subst:The Anatomist Barnstar}}) | |
Portal:Anatomy receives some attention, and two related portals are deleted (vale Human body and Cranial nerve portals) | |
Some things left out from past newsletters - A large amount of redirects are created to help link plural structures, and Cerebellum ( [9]) and Hippocampus ( [10]) are published in Wikiversity. |
I have been asked to write up something introducing the Featured article (FA) process to anatomy editors, but I took a more general approach to explaining why one might want to contribute featured content and the benefits to the editor and to Wikipedia. I also tried to address some misconceptions about the FA process, and give you a guide that is somewhat specific to health content should you decide to take the dive.
A vital purpose of Featured articles is to serve as examples for new and aspiring Wikipedia editors. FAs are often uniquely comprehensive for the Internet. They showcase some of our best articles, and can enhance Wikipedia's reputation if they are maintained to standard—but in an "anyone can edit" environment, they can easily fall out of standard if not maintained. Benefits to the writer include developing collaborative partnerships and learning new skills, while improving your writing and seeing it exposed to a broader audience—all that Wikipedia is about!
Looking more specifically at WP Anatomy's featured content, the Featured media is impressive and seems to be an Anatomy Project strength. The Anatomy WikiProject has tagged 4 FAs, 1 Featured list, and 30 Featured media. Working towards upgrading and maintaining older Featured articles could be a worthwhile goal. Immune system is a 2007 FA promotion, and bringing it up to date would make a nice collaboration between WikiProject Medicine and the Anatomy WikiProject. Hippocampus is another dated promotion that is almost 50% larger than when promoted, having taken on a bit of uncited text and new text that might benefit from a tune-up.
Whether tuning up an older FA at Featured article review, or attempting a new one to be reviewed at Featured article candidates, taking the plunge can be rewarding, and I hope the advice in my essay is helpful.
You can read the essay "Achieving excellence through featured content" here.
SandyGeorgia has been a regular FA reviewer at FAC and FAR since 2006, and has participated in thousands of nominations
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Welcome to Wikipedia from WikiProject Anatomy! We're a group of editors who strive to improve the quality of anatomy articles here on Wikipedia. One of our members has noticed that you are involved in editing anatomy articles; it's great to have a new interested editor on board. In your wiki-voyages, a few things that may be relevant to editing wikipedia articles are:
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Hello Figgep - sorry that your edits have been reverted but the reasons for these are in my mind justified. In Fat I have just incorporated a little info from the website you link and used the link as a ref in the section. I also added one to the External links on another page. These web links are helpful and they could be added to any relevant articles in the External links section - then any editor could access them and use info from them. Perhaps the individual protein content could be placed in a separate section on pages but this needs to be written up and not just cut and pasted. Thank you -- Iztwoz ( talk) 20:45, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Adding information on Anatomy project pages: Thanks for feed-back. New here and trying to understand how I best can contribute. I think the knowledge-based information that is present in the Human Protein Atlas (and a large number of scientific publications in peer reviewed journals) regarding normal human organs and tissues would be a basic and very important piece of information to the description as to what is the basis for differences between different organs, tissue and cell types. Is it the format or the content I have used that has lead to your reverting of my text?? The references given should be absolute adequate!?!
OK, great with your both response, thanks! Still learning and for that matter still not knowing how/where to communicate back on the above "messages" you wrote! Now in some "source editing" mode on my User talk:Figgep page and just trying.....So, this is what I will do for starters, I will try write up a brief text on the essence of results from protein profiling of human organs. I do think this does belong to the lead for each organ (guessing what here is termed WP:LEAD), but will begin with putting the text under a new subheading under "Structure" as suggested. As I see, the format for these pages are not fully congruent, but this will do for starters. I will also be happy to further on write a more focussed article under "Protein expression in human organs" as you suggested.
Hello Figgep, and welcome to Wikipedia. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.
It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. -- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 11:30, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Having your and Toms earlier feed-back in mind, I have now tried to write a bit more comprehensive and structured short text on basic gene expression in normal human organs/tissues. I tested to do this with "Testicles", so that we can agree on a format that fits well in, before I start on other organs and tissue types. I still think this is fundamental information and could/should be in the lead of descriptive organ pages (at least those with a specific "Human XXXXX" page). One question is how to best reference to the corresponding organ page at the Human Protein Atlas. This is central and now I tried with an external webpage link after the subheading. Not sure that is best..... One possibility further on could be to add a pie chart and perhaps a few immunohistochemistry examples of proteins specifically expressed in the given organ type, and link from these. Just having it under "External links" or "See also" feels insufficient. Thankful for feed-back!
Having your and Iztwoz earlier feed-back in mind, I have now tried to write a bit more comprehensive and structured short text on basic gene expression in normal human organs/tissues. I tested to do this with "Testicles", so that we can agree on a format that fits well in, before I start on other organs and tissue types. I still think this is fundamental information and could/should be in the lead of descriptive organ pages (at least those with a specific "Human XXXXX" page). One question is how to best reference to the corresponding organ page at the Human Protein Atlas. This is central and now I tried with an external webpage link after the subheading. Not sure that is best..... One possibility further on could be to add a pie chart and perhaps a few immunohistochemistry examples of proteins specifically expressed in the given organ type, and link from these. Just having it under "External links" or "See also" feels insufficient. Thankful for feed-back!
Hi. I'm just an editor, I'm Portuguese and my english is not good enough. I saw your post on Iztwoz Talk page. Your edit was out of place. You wrote something about genes on structure chapter, external appearence... I suggest you to put it on embriology chapter or you can create a new chapter about genetic. Cheers Doc Elisa ✉
Hi and thank you ✉. Not sure where is best to put this information, first tried to add it in the lead, then after suggestion from other editors tried to add it under "Structure". It is basic information as it describes what fraction of our genes are expressed in the testicle and how many of these genes are specifically expressed in the testicle. Such genes are of course vital to both function, anatomy and histology of the normal testis but also a fundament for understanding diseases that effect the testicles
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Thank you. Drm310 🍁 ( talk) 19:45, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for showing me how to do things right here Drm310 Figgep ( talk) 06:41, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Figgep ( talk) 19:53, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi, not sure if this is best way to respond and comment on your comments, but will try.....Wrote a bit longer background on Fuhghettaboutit talk page. @ Tigraan: Firstly, Tigraan wrote the below:
Thank you, but please, I understand that "A dictionary of synonyms is not enough to magically not be a copyright violation anymore", and that is exactly why all contributions I have written the last two days have been off the top of my head to avoid both copyright issues and plagiarism! If the goal is to keep text concise and informative, there are certain formats of sentences that can be preferred. Would be extremely happy for constructive feed-back as to how you would modify this type of text! Will check up on compatible licenses and donations of copyrights from us, but for now I will avoid copying and just write text with my own words.
@ ColinFine: The ColinFine wrote the below:
Thank you, I was almost expecting more. The questions you raise I think are fine and my response to firstly verifiability, would be that all facts and data that I write about have been published in the top peer reviewed scientific journals (which are also cited in my texts), mainly in articles published in Science which, alongside with the Nature journal, is the most renowned journal publishing scientific knowledge. Secondly, it is not my own work, the knowledge I am trying to add comes from 1200 man years spent on the Human Protein Atlas, a non commercial academic project funded by a non-profit organisation. There is no COI to transmit the publicly available data and knowledge provided in scientific journals or the HPA website! Figgep ( talk) 19:55, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
@ IiKkEe @IiKkEe Just a short acknowledgement that I have read your analytical comments which I find full of insight and interesting. Much appreciated and let me just think a bit and then get back to you with my views and comments on these important issues. I do understand that what we all want is that Wikipedia provides a full bodied and truthful resource, the ultimate source for information. Will get back to you with more thoughts within the next couple of days, thanks!! Figgep ( talk) 19:31, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
@ IiKkEe: @ IiKkEe Just thanked you and wrote a few comments and questions on the testicle talk page (do you get notice when I do that?). Will continue to try and understand how to "read" the view history function so that I better can see what people change and if they add any comment as to why they change/modify my additions. Will also continue to add to new pages and go through the ones I have added to. Do you have group discussions with people like IdreamofJeanie, LT Tom, Iztwoz and so? Figgep ( talk) 08:54, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
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Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 15:50, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
(cur | prev)08:09, 19 September 2017 Iztwoz (talk | contribs) m . . (41,824 bytes) (-1) . . (→Gene and protein expression: typos) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 08:07, 19 September 2017 Iztwoz (talk | contribs) . . (41,825 bytes) (-702) . . (Rm repeated information and merged rest to its own section) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 07:53, 19 September 2017 Figgep (talk | contribs) m . . (42,527 bytes) (+2,126) . . (Added a paragraph "Genes and proteins expressed in primary cell types" with brief text + appropriate references to source of information. As proposed on the talk page.) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit)
(cur | prev) 16:54, 15 September 2017 KolbertBot (talk | contribs) m . . (40,401 bytes) (+4) . . (Bot: HTTP→HTTPS) (undo)
(cur | prev) 19:33, 14 September 2017 Iztwoz (talk | contribs) . . (40,397 bytes) (+21) . . (→Gene and protein expression: WL) (undo | thank). (cur | prev) 19:26, 14 September 2017 Iztwoz (talk | contribs) . . (40,376 bytes) (+128) . . (→Gene and protein expression: changed external link to ref) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 15:14, 14 September 2017 Figgep (talk | contribs) m . . (40,248 bytes) (+32) . . (added a few internal links) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit)
(cur | prev) 15:05, 14 September 2017 Figgep (talk | contribs) . . (40,216 bytes) (+1,653) . . (added a brief paragraph on gene expression landscape that is a fundament for testicle anatomy, histology and normal function) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit)
(cur | prev) 17:08, 13 September 2017 Jarble (talk | contribs) m . . (38,563 bytes) (+381) . . (→External appearance: adding a reference) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 14:29, 13 September 2017 IdreamofJeanie (talk | contribs) . . (38,182 bytes) (-2,295) . . (Undid revision 800428229 by Figgep (talk)) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 13:51, 13 September 2017 Figgep (talk | contribs) . . (40,477 bytes) (+2,295) . . (Added a new subheading "Expression of genes and proteins" under the "Structure" heading, with text describing the gene expression landscape in testicles + references) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit)
(cur | prev) 20:10, 12 September 2017 Iztwoz (talk | contribs) . . (38,182 bytes) (-1,929) . . (Undid revision 800260035 by Figgep (talk)rm out of place cut and paste info and likewise external link) (undo | thank)
(cur | prev) 12:00, 12 September 2017 Figgep (talk | contribs) m . . (40,111 bytes) (+1,929) . . (Added brief description of proteins expressed in human testis with emphasis on testis specific genes + references + one external link to testis histology) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit)
Regards IiKkEe ( talk) 15:09, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi IiKkEe, thanks for your help in trying to make me understand this world a bit better! I appreciate it! So firstly, this is the correct place to write an answer/comment to your two comments on 1) if I had used "View history" and 2) the 12 relevant edits that you pasted for me to see !? (and answering without double colons, correct!?). So, all what is discussed right here should be limited to the "Testicle" wiki page, for more personal questions, I write on peoples own talk pages (?) So, for view history, yes I do look at that but still have a hard time really seeing there what exact people have modified and if there is any comment as to why someone has modified. I have, however, looked at the latest version of the "testicle" page and I think it works (content is good, but I would have used the other words/language that I had from the beginning), Question: should references in the reference list be given twice, i.e. can´t the same ref number be used in the text several times and only point to one entry in the ref list? (as now 8 and 10 are same / 9 and 12 are same) Figgep ( talk) 08:46, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Figgep, I appreciate the time you've taken to learn our ways :). I can see you're having some difficulty/confusion with talk pages (I keep an eye on most anatomy articles)... we talk a lot here, sometimes more than editing, as we care very deeply about the quality of articles. Discussion almost always occurs on "Talk" pages. Some general pointers:
Hope that helps, -- Tom (LT) ( talk) 10:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Firstly, I will focus on normal organs and tissues, which belongs well to anatomy (and histology), will also want to write about cells in a tissue context and on the disease side I will center on cancer. Moreover, I would want to contribute to the gene/protein pages that are on wiki, but since that is such a large number, it needs some more thinking before, as for now just testing on a few. Figgep ( talk) 10:27, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Best! Figgep ( talk) 11:55, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks again IiKkEe, I am beginning to make good use of the "View history" possibility to view and follow what has happened on a page. It also gives a good feeling as to how "popular" certain pages are. Figgep ( talk) 15:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Just amazing, been clicking around looking at different stats and other meta data, thanks for pointing this out! Figgep ( talk) 17:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
As you have a COI please stop adding your site to the EL section. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 22:20, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, so I do not think that I am in a situation in which I am involved in multiple interests, financial or otherwise, one of which could possibly corrupt my motivation or decision-making regarding my wish to spread knowledge from my experience and what is available at the Human Protein Atlas. How do I get consensus? How can I contribute to Wikipedia? Figgep ( talk) 15:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, I hear what you both say and although I don´t agree, if both of you say so I will not add anymore external links to the Human Protein Atlas. Hopefully there are many many more people who would appreciate an easy link to the HPA database and hopefully someone else will add it in the future. Figgep ( talk) 08:29, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
You added it again. [3]
This is your final warning. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 03:03, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Figgep I am responding to the ping. I think there are a few of things you are not understanding about Wikipedia. Let me see if I can lay them out quickly for you:
That's all. You can see User:Jytdog/How for a more elaborated version of the above, that describes how Wikipedia really works. You can reply here, if you want to discuss any of that, or ask any questions. Jytdog ( talk) 20:26, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Released January 2018 · Previous newsletter · Next
Hello WikiProject Anatomy participant! This is our sixth newsletter, documenting what's going on in WikiProject Anatomy, news, current projects and other items of interest.
I value feedback, and if you think I've missed something, or don't wish to receive this again, please leave a note on my talk page, or remove your name from the mailing list.
Yours truly, -- Tom (LT) ( talk) 10:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
new good articles since last newsletter include Thyroid, Hypoglossal nerve, Axillary arch, Human brain, Cerebrospinal fluid, Accessory nerve, Gallbladder, and Interventricular foramina (neuroanatomy) | |
I write an Introduction to Anatomy on Wikipedia in the Journal of Anatomy [4] | |
Vagina receives a lot of attention on its way to good article status. | |
We reach two projects goals of 20 good articles, and less than half of our articles as stubs, in July 2017. [5] | |
A discussion about two preferred section titles takes place here. |
Seeing as we have so many new members, and a constant stream of new editors to our articles, I would like to write in this issue about how our project and articles are arranged.
The main page for WikiProject Anatomy is here. We are a WikiProject, which is a group of editors interested in editing and maintaining anatomy articles. Our editors come from all sorts of disciplines, from academically trained anatomists, students, and lay readers, to experienced Wikipedia editors. Based on previous discussions, members of our project have chosen to focus mainly on human anatomy ( [6]), with a separate project for animal anatomy ( WP:ANAN). A WikiProject has no specific rights or abilities on Wikipedia, however it does allow a central venue for discussion on different issues where interested editors can be asked to contribute, collaborate, and perhaps reach a consensus.
Wikipedia has about 5,500,000 articles. Of these, about 20,000 fall under our project, about 5,000 of which are text-containing articles. Articles are manually assigned by editors as relating to our project (many using the rater tool). As well as articles, other Wikipedia pages in our project include, lists, disambiguation pages, and redirects. Our articles are improving over time, and you can have a look at our goals and progress, or last newsletter, to get a better idea about this.
Our articles are structured according to the manual of style, specifically here. The manual of style is a guideline, which "is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply", and prescribes the layout of anatomy articles, most of which follow it.
Our articles are organised in a particular way. Most articles have a infobox in its lead, describing key characteristics about the article. Because we have so many articles, articles are often linked together in different ways. An article tends to focus on the primary topic it is written about. Further information can be linked like this, or piped ( like this). We use navboxes, which are the boxes at the bottom of articles providing links to similar topics, as well as hatnotes. Typical hatnotes in articles include {{ main}}, {{ see also}} and {{ further}}. This lets us link to relevant and related articles. The bottom of articles also shows categories, which store groups of related articles.
For interested editors, our project offers a number of additional tools to help edit our articles. On our main page appears a log of the most edited recent articles. An automatic list of recent changes to all our articles is here. We have a list of the most popular pages ( WP:ANAT500). To keep abreast of news and discussions, it is best to monitor our talk page, newsletters, and our article alerts, which automatically lists deletion, good article, featured article, and move proposals. We also have a open tasks page for editors to create lists of tasks that other editors can collaborate with. Articles are also manually assigned to a "discipline", so interested editors in for example, gross anatomy, histology, or embryology can easily locate articles via here.
Our project has all sorts of smaller items that editors may or may not know about, including a barnstar, user box ({{ User WPAnatomy}}), welcoming template ({{ WPANATOMY welcome}}) and fairly comprehensive listing of templates ( here).
We are always happy to help out, and I invite new editors, or for those with any questions relating to how to get around the confusing environment that is Wikipedia, to post on our talk page or, for a kind introduction to questions, at the WP:TEAHOUSE.
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Released September 2020 · Previous newsletter
Hello WikiProject Anatomy participant! This is our seventh newsletter, documenting what's going on in WikiProject Anatomy, news, current projects and other items of interest.
I value feedback, and if you think I've missed something, or don't wish to receive this again, please leave a note on my talk page, or remove your name from the mailing list.
Yours truly, -- Tom (LT) ( talk) 07:24, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
new good articles since last newsletter include Epiglottis, Human nose, Pancreas, Prostate, Thymus, Trachea, T tubule, Ureter and Vagina, with Anatomical terms of location also awaiting review | |
A made-up eponymous term is used in our article that eventually makes it in to university anatomy teaching slides and a journal article | |
We reach a project goal of 150 B-class articles in July 2020, increasing by about 50% over five years, and are one good article away from our goal of 40 GAs, doubling over the last five years | |
In the real world, Terminologia Anatomica 2 and Terminologia Embryologica 2 are released ( [7], [8]). Terminologia Anatomica 2 is now included in anatomy article infoboxes, and there is ongoing discussion about updating TE as well | |
A beautiful new barnstar is released ({{ subst:The Anatomist Barnstar}}) | |
Portal:Anatomy receives some attention, and two related portals are deleted (vale Human body and Cranial nerve portals) | |
Some things left out from past newsletters - A large amount of redirects are created to help link plural structures, and Cerebellum ( [9]) and Hippocampus ( [10]) are published in Wikiversity. |
I have been asked to write up something introducing the Featured article (FA) process to anatomy editors, but I took a more general approach to explaining why one might want to contribute featured content and the benefits to the editor and to Wikipedia. I also tried to address some misconceptions about the FA process, and give you a guide that is somewhat specific to health content should you decide to take the dive.
A vital purpose of Featured articles is to serve as examples for new and aspiring Wikipedia editors. FAs are often uniquely comprehensive for the Internet. They showcase some of our best articles, and can enhance Wikipedia's reputation if they are maintained to standard—but in an "anyone can edit" environment, they can easily fall out of standard if not maintained. Benefits to the writer include developing collaborative partnerships and learning new skills, while improving your writing and seeing it exposed to a broader audience—all that Wikipedia is about!
Looking more specifically at WP Anatomy's featured content, the Featured media is impressive and seems to be an Anatomy Project strength. The Anatomy WikiProject has tagged 4 FAs, 1 Featured list, and 30 Featured media. Working towards upgrading and maintaining older Featured articles could be a worthwhile goal. Immune system is a 2007 FA promotion, and bringing it up to date would make a nice collaboration between WikiProject Medicine and the Anatomy WikiProject. Hippocampus is another dated promotion that is almost 50% larger than when promoted, having taken on a bit of uncited text and new text that might benefit from a tune-up.
Whether tuning up an older FA at Featured article review, or attempting a new one to be reviewed at Featured article candidates, taking the plunge can be rewarding, and I hope the advice in my essay is helpful.
You can read the essay "Achieving excellence through featured content" here.
SandyGeorgia has been a regular FA reviewer at FAC and FAR since 2006, and has participated in thousands of nominations
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