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Alfa Romeo GT

pls stop reverting that article, all Alfa model pages are made in same style, dont go and change one page and its not against any policy, even you try to say so, "Colors used in templates such as navboxes and infoboxes, and in tables, should not make reading difficult, including for colorblind or otherwise visually impaired readers." its better to read when it has some mild colors. so dont go change it. --> Typ932 T· C 14:37, 1 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Wikitable has a standard for a reason. When you force colors onto a table it interferes with accessibility functionally that users use related to issues with sight. Again the policy is not alter the color of articles from standard except in extreme one-offs. You have continued to exhibited WP:OWNBEHAVIOR with this article. If you continue to war edit over minor layout edits that get the article more inline with Wikipedia policy, I will report you to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring.   #FF9600  talk 16:59, 1 December 2018 (UTC) reply
If you start editing car model articles , you have huge field of editing, we have thousands of artcles with different tables. There is no reason to change table style, is not against any wp rule, so pls stop it. If you dont stop that reverting Il will report you as vandal. And your edit are not minor, with your editing that table grows huge and ugly and makes page more difficult to read and its not in line with all other car/brand articles --> Typ932 T· C 08:00, 2 December 2018 (UTC) reply
One more revert and u are in 3RR, pls stop it --> Typ932 T· C 14:36, 2 December 2018 (UTC) reply
Same for you buddy ;)   #FF9600  talk 14:38, 2 December 2018 (UTC) reply
not you are far closer --> Typ932 T· C 14:44, 2 December 2018 (UTC) reply
Could you pls stop making wrong accusations of edit warring? you are closer to edit warring than me. And there is no rule that you should use white color only in tables "Colors used in templates such as navboxes and infoboxes, and in tables, should not make reading difficult, including for colorblind or otherwise visually impaired readers." Neither there is rule about fonts in tables "Editors should avoid manually inserting large and small fonts into prose." You should read more carefully those style recommendations. If there would be strick rules in wikipedia we would have locked table and font sizes in class="wikitable". So pls stop edit warring and making those pages layout ugly and too big tables that breaks clean page style.- And you should also use some time to read and look how many different table styles we have in wikipedia articles (or in car articles), not all look the same , not even close and pls stop posting anyt8ing to my talk page, Im not intrested in arquing with you, I have already told this same to you earlier, but you dont seem to understand and you keep reverting pages. I dont have more to say to you, so pls stop posting to me. Im sick tired of these arguments every week, so stop it. --> Typ932 T· C 14:11, 5 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, please note that there is a Manual of Style that should be followed to maintain a consistent, encyclopedic appearance. Deviating from this style, as you did in KTM 390 series, disturbs uniformity among articles and may cause readability or accessibility problems. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia.

When you say "much easier to maintain", you're saying "my personal preference". Maybe you think it's easier to maintain, but others don't. That's what "personal preference" means. The ArbCom has ruled on this: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sortan#Preferred styles.

Edit warring to replace an exsiting style like this without any consensus is precisely the behavior that the ArbCom and the MOS guidelines are telling you to not do. This is crystal clear. I hope you're not going around doing this to a lot of articles. It's considered to be disruptive editing. Dennis Bratland ( talk) 22:17, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply

I have "imposing one style on an article with inconsistent citation styles (e.g., some of the citations in footnotes and others as parenthetical references): an improvement because it makes the citations easier to understand and edit;" as per WP:CITEVAR. There were inline & "footnoted" refs. In addition I expanded the refs to include missing info.   #FF9600  talk 22:44, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply
In addition, WP:CITEVAR is talking about changing citations from " Citation", " APA style", " Chicago style", etc. to another another "style".   #FF9600  talk 22:54, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make disruptive edits to Wikipedia contrary to the Manual of Style, as you did at KTM 390 series. Dennis Bratland ( talk) 23:14, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply

I don't know why you're being so obtuse about WP:CITEVAR. It's not hard to understand the meaning. I don't know why it's so important to you to edit war to impose your preferred style. I'm surprised you haven't learned that disruptive editing of this kind is likely to get you blocked. I would ask this: if you're so sure that you're right, why wouldn't you be confident that other editors will support your changes? It should be easy to get consensus if what you're doing is for the better. So why edit war? Go to Talk:KTM 390 series and see if there is support. Or go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorcycling and see if editors there agree.

If you think list-defined references are too hard to maintain, why don't you propose that they be deprecated? As it stands, WP:LDR is a valid option depending on personal preference and consensus. Consensus has established it on KTM 390 series and WP:CITEVAR says do not change it without discussion and support of other editors. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 23:20, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply

The actual code for the ref being inline with the text or in a footnote of sort is not a "citation style". Since you're ignoring what I've said, this is an exact quote:

A number of citation styles exist including those described in the Wikipedia articles for Citation, APA style, ASA style, MLA style, The Chicago Manual of Style, Author-date referencing, the Vancouver system and Bluebook.

In addition, there were already refs where the code of the refs already inline with the text it was referencing instead of just tagging it & putting the code in the bottom. I have brought the article to consistency and expanded the refs, when they were missing info (not that CITEVAR is talking about any of this).
Go ahead at report me, but remember, you're the one that started the war-editing, but I already know how it's going to flesh out. You're the goodie-goodie that that always want to flex, so people in arbitration already know you, so nothing is going to happen to you.   #FF9600  talk 23:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Need help with the obvious meaning of CITEVAR. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 23:36, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply

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Whats your problem? I dont try own any articles in wikipedia, so stop writing those lies to administrators notice board, thanks, I have already explained everything to you very carefully . My edits are totally under guidelines here --> Typ932 T· C 12:22, 29 July 2019 (UTC) reply

And yes I dont need any anwser from you, but try to understand what you are writing with wrong accusations , so pls stop it --> Typ932 T· C 12:25, 29 July 2019 (UTC) reply

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Alfa Romeo GT

pls stop reverting that article, all Alfa model pages are made in same style, dont go and change one page and its not against any policy, even you try to say so, "Colors used in templates such as navboxes and infoboxes, and in tables, should not make reading difficult, including for colorblind or otherwise visually impaired readers." its better to read when it has some mild colors. so dont go change it. --> Typ932 T· C 14:37, 1 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Wikitable has a standard for a reason. When you force colors onto a table it interferes with accessibility functionally that users use related to issues with sight. Again the policy is not alter the color of articles from standard except in extreme one-offs. You have continued to exhibited WP:OWNBEHAVIOR with this article. If you continue to war edit over minor layout edits that get the article more inline with Wikipedia policy, I will report you to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring.   #FF9600  talk 16:59, 1 December 2018 (UTC) reply
If you start editing car model articles , you have huge field of editing, we have thousands of artcles with different tables. There is no reason to change table style, is not against any wp rule, so pls stop it. If you dont stop that reverting Il will report you as vandal. And your edit are not minor, with your editing that table grows huge and ugly and makes page more difficult to read and its not in line with all other car/brand articles --> Typ932 T· C 08:00, 2 December 2018 (UTC) reply
One more revert and u are in 3RR, pls stop it --> Typ932 T· C 14:36, 2 December 2018 (UTC) reply
Same for you buddy ;)   #FF9600  talk 14:38, 2 December 2018 (UTC) reply
not you are far closer --> Typ932 T· C 14:44, 2 December 2018 (UTC) reply
Could you pls stop making wrong accusations of edit warring? you are closer to edit warring than me. And there is no rule that you should use white color only in tables "Colors used in templates such as navboxes and infoboxes, and in tables, should not make reading difficult, including for colorblind or otherwise visually impaired readers." Neither there is rule about fonts in tables "Editors should avoid manually inserting large and small fonts into prose." You should read more carefully those style recommendations. If there would be strick rules in wikipedia we would have locked table and font sizes in class="wikitable". So pls stop edit warring and making those pages layout ugly and too big tables that breaks clean page style.- And you should also use some time to read and look how many different table styles we have in wikipedia articles (or in car articles), not all look the same , not even close and pls stop posting anyt8ing to my talk page, Im not intrested in arquing with you, I have already told this same to you earlier, but you dont seem to understand and you keep reverting pages. I dont have more to say to you, so pls stop posting to me. Im sick tired of these arguments every week, so stop it. --> Typ932 T· C 14:11, 5 December 2018 (UTC) reply

July 2019

Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, please note that there is a Manual of Style that should be followed to maintain a consistent, encyclopedic appearance. Deviating from this style, as you did in KTM 390 series, disturbs uniformity among articles and may cause readability or accessibility problems. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia.

When you say "much easier to maintain", you're saying "my personal preference". Maybe you think it's easier to maintain, but others don't. That's what "personal preference" means. The ArbCom has ruled on this: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sortan#Preferred styles.

Edit warring to replace an exsiting style like this without any consensus is precisely the behavior that the ArbCom and the MOS guidelines are telling you to not do. This is crystal clear. I hope you're not going around doing this to a lot of articles. It's considered to be disruptive editing. Dennis Bratland ( talk) 22:17, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply

I have "imposing one style on an article with inconsistent citation styles (e.g., some of the citations in footnotes and others as parenthetical references): an improvement because it makes the citations easier to understand and edit;" as per WP:CITEVAR. There were inline & "footnoted" refs. In addition I expanded the refs to include missing info.   #FF9600  talk 22:44, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply
In addition, WP:CITEVAR is talking about changing citations from " Citation", " APA style", " Chicago style", etc. to another another "style".   #FF9600  talk 22:54, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make disruptive edits to Wikipedia contrary to the Manual of Style, as you did at KTM 390 series. Dennis Bratland ( talk) 23:14, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply

I don't know why you're being so obtuse about WP:CITEVAR. It's not hard to understand the meaning. I don't know why it's so important to you to edit war to impose your preferred style. I'm surprised you haven't learned that disruptive editing of this kind is likely to get you blocked. I would ask this: if you're so sure that you're right, why wouldn't you be confident that other editors will support your changes? It should be easy to get consensus if what you're doing is for the better. So why edit war? Go to Talk:KTM 390 series and see if there is support. Or go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorcycling and see if editors there agree.

If you think list-defined references are too hard to maintain, why don't you propose that they be deprecated? As it stands, WP:LDR is a valid option depending on personal preference and consensus. Consensus has established it on KTM 390 series and WP:CITEVAR says do not change it without discussion and support of other editors. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 23:20, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply

The actual code for the ref being inline with the text or in a footnote of sort is not a "citation style". Since you're ignoring what I've said, this is an exact quote:

A number of citation styles exist including those described in the Wikipedia articles for Citation, APA style, ASA style, MLA style, The Chicago Manual of Style, Author-date referencing, the Vancouver system and Bluebook.

In addition, there were already refs where the code of the refs already inline with the text it was referencing instead of just tagging it & putting the code in the bottom. I have brought the article to consistency and expanded the refs, when they were missing info (not that CITEVAR is talking about any of this).
Go ahead at report me, but remember, you're the one that started the war-editing, but I already know how it's going to flesh out. You're the goodie-goodie that that always want to flex, so people in arbitration already know you, so nothing is going to happen to you.   #FF9600  talk 23:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Need help with the obvious meaning of CITEVAR. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 23:36, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Owning articles

Whats your problem? I dont try own any articles in wikipedia, so stop writing those lies to administrators notice board, thanks, I have already explained everything to you very carefully . My edits are totally under guidelines here --> Typ932 T· C 12:22, 29 July 2019 (UTC) reply

And yes I dont need any anwser from you, but try to understand what you are writing with wrong accusations , so pls stop it --> Typ932 T· C 12:25, 29 July 2019 (UTC) reply

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