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Happy editing! Tacyarg ( talk) 17:06, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Dsiedler! I received your email over the weekend about promoting Grey Owl to featured article status, and I see you've asked about it on Wikipedia already so I thought I'd reply here. I think it's a great idea and I'd be happy to help however I can, but I'm an accountant and just entering my busy season so I might not have a lot of free time. I wasn't familiar with the man before your question about adding a quote to Canada jay but I read up a bit afterwards, he's an interesting figure for sure and I'd think it should be fairly simple to find good information on him.
I've only been through one featured article promotion myself, on Canada jay, and around the same time I helped bring List of national parks of Canada to a featured list rating, otherwise I have a handful of good articles (see User:Ivanvector/Articles). On Canada jay I went through a good article nomination ( Talk:Canada jay/GA1) and co-nominated it for featured article afterwards ( Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Grey jay/archive1) - you could have a look at both of those for some sense of how the different levels of review work. I always suggest trying to improve an article to GA status first - GAs have somewhat lower standards but still go through a fairly thorough review, so you get good feedback and a sense of what could be improved further without needing to be perfect on the first go, plus newly-promoted GAs are eligible for listing at WP:DYK. However, the review process for GAs is often significantly backlogged: right now it looks like you could be waiting a bit more than a month for someone to take on the review, but you can always improve the article in the meantime. It seems like you've already done significant work on it.
You can also look at featured/good articles on similar topics for examples of what will be expected by the reviewer. For example, at the top of Talk:Grey Owl there are several WikiProject banners; one of them is Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America. Most WikiProjects keep a list somewhere of pages adopted by the project and their assessments; for that project here are their lists of featured and good articles. You could look through those for biographies to use as examples. Articles that were promoted more recently will better reflect the standards reviewers are using today, and anything promoted more than about ten years ago might not be very useful at all.
Happy editing! Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 18:54, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
A reviewer of my Grey Owl FAC advised "I would recommend looking at some other biographical FAs to get some ideas...". So how about this one: Homer Davenport.
IMO it's a fine article - almost unreadable yet very fine. But I doubt if it would have satisfied my reviewers in its current form:
Dsiedler ( talk) 17:12, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
Enough for now. I very much hope this experience doesn't put you off. I am quite certain from the work you've done that you can produce good articles, indeed there is much that is very good in Gray Owl. Take justifiable pride in that. All the best. KJP1 ( talk) 17:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Dsiedler. Thank you for your work on Bill Guppy. North8000, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:
Nice work!
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North8000 ( talk) 19:23, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions to Pilgrims of the Wild. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.
Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Boleyn ( talk) 19:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
I have tagged File:Grey Owl - Pilgrims of the Wild - cover.jpg as {{ no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Some examples can be found at Wikipedia:Use rationale examples. Please also consider using {{ non-free fair use}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Non-free. Thank you. TheGreatestLuvofAll ( talk) 22:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi Dsiedler! I noticed your contributions to Grey Owl and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. I hope you like it here and decide to stay.
As you get started, you may find this short tutorial helpful:
Alternatively, the contributing to Wikipedia page covers the same topics.
If you have any questions, we have a friendly space where experienced editors can help you here:
If you are not sure where to help out, you can find a task here:
Happy editing! Tacyarg ( talk) 17:06, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Dsiedler! I received your email over the weekend about promoting Grey Owl to featured article status, and I see you've asked about it on Wikipedia already so I thought I'd reply here. I think it's a great idea and I'd be happy to help however I can, but I'm an accountant and just entering my busy season so I might not have a lot of free time. I wasn't familiar with the man before your question about adding a quote to Canada jay but I read up a bit afterwards, he's an interesting figure for sure and I'd think it should be fairly simple to find good information on him.
I've only been through one featured article promotion myself, on Canada jay, and around the same time I helped bring List of national parks of Canada to a featured list rating, otherwise I have a handful of good articles (see User:Ivanvector/Articles). On Canada jay I went through a good article nomination ( Talk:Canada jay/GA1) and co-nominated it for featured article afterwards ( Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Grey jay/archive1) - you could have a look at both of those for some sense of how the different levels of review work. I always suggest trying to improve an article to GA status first - GAs have somewhat lower standards but still go through a fairly thorough review, so you get good feedback and a sense of what could be improved further without needing to be perfect on the first go, plus newly-promoted GAs are eligible for listing at WP:DYK. However, the review process for GAs is often significantly backlogged: right now it looks like you could be waiting a bit more than a month for someone to take on the review, but you can always improve the article in the meantime. It seems like you've already done significant work on it.
You can also look at featured/good articles on similar topics for examples of what will be expected by the reviewer. For example, at the top of Talk:Grey Owl there are several WikiProject banners; one of them is Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America. Most WikiProjects keep a list somewhere of pages adopted by the project and their assessments; for that project here are their lists of featured and good articles. You could look through those for biographies to use as examples. Articles that were promoted more recently will better reflect the standards reviewers are using today, and anything promoted more than about ten years ago might not be very useful at all.
Happy editing! Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 18:54, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
A reviewer of my Grey Owl FAC advised "I would recommend looking at some other biographical FAs to get some ideas...". So how about this one: Homer Davenport.
IMO it's a fine article - almost unreadable yet very fine. But I doubt if it would have satisfied my reviewers in its current form:
Dsiedler ( talk) 17:12, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
Enough for now. I very much hope this experience doesn't put you off. I am quite certain from the work you've done that you can produce good articles, indeed there is much that is very good in Gray Owl. Take justifiable pride in that. All the best. KJP1 ( talk) 17:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Dsiedler. Thank you for your work on Bill Guppy. North8000, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:
Nice work!
To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|North8000}}
. Please remember to sign your reply with ~~~~
. (Message delivered via the
Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)
North8000 ( talk) 19:23, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions to Pilgrims of the Wild. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.
Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Boleyn ( talk) 19:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
I have tagged File:Grey Owl - Pilgrims of the Wild - cover.jpg as {{ no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Some examples can be found at Wikipedia:Use rationale examples. Please also consider using {{ non-free fair use}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Non-free. Thank you. TheGreatestLuvofAll ( talk) 22:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)