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This section is a good example of something that needs to be addressed. I warned user about not using Wikipedia as a social network and user tells me to "get off my back and fuck off!" Meanwhile, user has continued to use talk page as a forum in follow-up edits. Civility and policy issues with this one. Atlantabravz ( talk) 04:15, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
DocOfSoc, I've added to the ANI discussion. Not sure if you want to add it here or not? (No objections to you wiping this post here - as is your right - and replacing it, or doing what you wish). TFOWR 08:54, 9 September 2010 (UTC) [1]
== Hearkening and obeyance ==
I'm at your command. How can I help? Will Beback talk 10:47, 10 September 2010 (UTC) : Wow! How tempting! ;-) TY!! The 2010 salary scandal in Bell article is a tad overwhelming, and altho we are not Wikinews it is pretty darn current with updates most days. Without your "Back" and wisdom, I was feeling bereft. I really need your input esp. since I could have in no way started this without you. (Before, I forget, I need to know how to do a redirect for another article please.) FYI: Altho, it would appear I have been around awhile, I spent my first 2 years in a Wiki war with the now banned SRQ on only three articles, so I have much to learn and am running as fast as I can. I have commenced on a huge project of basically updating and rewriting the towns of the entire San Gabriel Valley. As you are a neighbor ;-), I would appreciate your input in anything for which you have time. I have missed your snappy comments, truthfully. I really need your excellent teamwork as backup. I will stop here. Waiting breathlessly for your reply. Namaste--- DocOfSoc ( talk) 11:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)::You're doing great. We're all in this together. One could write a book about the corruption in the municipalities of Los Angeles County. Raymond Chandler almost made a career of it, but there's plenty of new material. However we must remember that an encyclopedia is very different from a crime novel. I have most of the local cities on my watchlist, but they have so much company there that I tend to overlook most editing activity. But I'll usually respond to specific requests. Will Beback talk 20:51, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
[2] clearly states that Nordbak's mayor. By the way, it wasn't exactly in good taste to undo someone with several good faith contributions to Whittier, and thousands of other contributions to Wikipedia 14:59, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Reprotected indef.-- SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 19:39, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Please, AS I have requested move this to the John Berry page as I requested previously. (redunduncy intended) And I am sorry, there seems to be some doubt in your mind as to the meaning of "irony" I totally disagree with you both linguistically, which I have studied extensively. DocOfSoc ( talk) 00:46, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Ten Hammers re: John Berry
TMI, I am outta here DocOfSoc ( talk) 06:53, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
I couldn't resist [3]. How ya been? Drop me a line sometime - it's been awhile :P Cheers, Doc #2 :> Doc9871 ( talk) 07:22, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
From The Wikiproject California page: [4]
Purple, since you say on your page,"I dislike America's ignorance of its own history and geography" I am astounded at your lack of knowledge of Calif. history. Cesar Chavez is not a "token" Mexican as you infer, but an very important historical figure here in Calif. And whomever said That "guy" who founded the *Missions* not stations, which expanded into many California cities, is "Father", or "Friar" or "Fray" Junipero Serra, and earned more historical respect. Our history is " a little too (sic) heavy on Spanish and Mexican land barons" because of the enormous role they had in settling and developing California. Did you not go to grammar school here in California? And to all: As an aside, why is one Williams sister mentioned and not the other? And why are the Red Hot Chili Peppers included? Surely, Daryl Gates deserves a mention. His changes to police work have been implemented all over the U.S. I really don't mean to offend anyone, but this discussion really... I am a loss for words despite evidence to the contrary, LOL. Lots of work to do. I am concentrating on SoCal Cities and their history. Also, I am curious why Janis Joplin, a Texan, is included. With the best of intentions...DocOfSoc (talk) 07:55, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
FYI Dear Killiondude, Hi Ya! I only asked about The Purple's schooling in case he attended in another state or country and perhaps could be excused for his lack of knowledge. The Beach Boys are icons and should be mentioned, which I did not. Steinbeck is a given. The Purple said this about Cesar: "Chavez because a state that has 8-10 million Mexicans should probably have a biography up there." As a Mexican-American, I found that racist and insulting but was polite about it. I had no intention of causing any divisiveness, but you may want to know that Purple was taken to Ani for insulting me before, as he has again on my talk page. I was very careful only to repeat his own words back to him. If you double check, you will see at no time did I "attack and/or lie." Yes, I speak plainly, but like Jack Nicholson said. "..some people just can't *Handle* the truth!" LOL! K'Dude you did an excellent job in assessing the situation and I look forward to working with you. Namaste!...DocOfSoc (talk) 11:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC) TO: PurpleBackpack:
Since I am vastly insulted *again* by this barely 21 year old prolific T**T, Purplebackpack, I thought it best I take a short redhead break and hope for my {pagestalker}s assistance. I am pretty sure it was the wonderful Tedder who spoke to him before. DocOfSoc ( talk) 04:13, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Also, to interested parties, this is the first time I've placed a boilerplate warning on her page, and there hasn't been an ANI thread involving the two of us Purple backpack89 07:50, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry to see you've had unhappiness here. This is an open editing project run mostly by volunteers, the contribution history of more or less every account is automatically logged and linked for all to see and anyone is welcome to look at an editor's contributions as a set. Although there are many fun and rewarding things that can happen when one edits here, now and then it can get nettlesome for any editor, almost all editors, for sundry reasons. If you take a break from this, even for a day or two, it's highly, highly likely you'll find things are not so bad as they seem to you now. I can give you a tip, many experienced editors have learned the hard way that when one becomes stirred up (emotional) about something here, whether or not one has edited within policy, by far the most helpful thing to do, is stop editing until one's feelings have settled down. These may seem like hollow words to you and that's ok too, but you may indeed find that breaking off on one's own for even a very short time can often do wonders here... DocOfSoc forgot to sign name added by -- CrohnieGal Talk 11:23, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I left a message for you there but now I am here. I am behind on a lot things obviously but can I help you with whatever it was that you were asking Doc help with? I think I'm about done at the arbcom case that has been taking up most of my time here and the rest is RL stuff that has been really stressful for me. Email me and I will tell you about it, I've even got pictures, that is if you're interested. Anyways, how can I help you, please I really would like to. -- CrohnieGal Talk 18:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- - Hi, hope you are doing well. Something of interest is in your email, take a peek... Be well, -- CrohnieGal Talk 17:38, 15 October 2010
Wasn't quite what we thought, but your socky-sense was correct ;-) TFOWR 22:28, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Namaste... DocOfSoc ( talk) 01:33, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
SRQ/ Dante? Link [6]
ANI archived SRQ [ [7]] 11-16-2010
They are unlike the Chinatown, Los Angeles or San Francisco Chinatown, the latter of which is undoubtedly still the largest in North America. Indeed, these "Chinatowns" tend to be suburban-style strip malls and shopping centers, and the amounts of them are fairly indicative of major Chinese diaspora population residing in the region. This has served as models for similar development in Chinatown, Las Vegas and Houston. Garvey Avenue in Monterey Park, Valley Boulevard in San Gabriel, and Colima Road in Rowland Heights are familiar landmarks to Chinese.
Rowland Heights offers its own mini Chinatown, including the businesses lining Colima Road (about one mile south of Valley), Fullerton Road and Nogales Avenue. Indoor malls in Rowland Heights feature fine restaurants and chic Asian boutiques. Continuing east from Rosemead further along Valley are the largely Hispanic communities of El Monte and La Puente and large industrial tracks including those that dominate the City of Industry. This ten mile long largely industrial corridor includes several Asian owned wholesale businesses including importers of electronics, food and furniture from Asia. North of La Puente is West Covina which is 26% Asian and south of La Puente is Hacienda Heights which is 36% Asian. Hacienda Heights is home to the Hsi Lai Temple, the largest Buddhist temple in the United States. The Temple is off Hacienda Road, on Glenmark Drive, about three miles south of Valley. On the east side of the San Gabriel Valley, before Valley becomes Holt Avenue in Pomona, are the communities of Rowland Heights, Walnut and Diamond Bar. These three communities each have Asian populations of between 50 and 60%.
The Asian communities in the San Gabriel Valley tend to lie along a 25 mile stretch of Valley Boulevard covering the entire length of the San Gabriel Valley with Alhambra on the west side and Diamond Bar on the east side. The northern San Gabriel valley includes largely White communities such as Pasadena and Monrovia while the southern part of the valley includes several Hispanic communities such as Montebello and Whittier. The Asian communities in the San Gabriel Valley tend to have a larger population of Hispanics than non-Hispanic Whites and Blacks. Asian communities in the San Gabriel Valley extend as far north as San Marino and Arcadia and as far south as Hacienda Heights and Rowland Heights.
Continuing east from Alhambra along Valley Boulevard are the cities of San Gabriel and Rosemead with San Marino, Temple City and Arcadia being further north and east. These five cities have Asian populations between 40 and 55% with a large number of Asian businesses and mini Chinatowns in their various town centers. Arcadia has some of the finest tofu and dumpling houses in the world. Temple City, especially along Las Tunas Boulevard, is home to dozens of wedding shops and photographers supporting the Asian tradition of taking studio quality photos of the bride and groom before the wedding. Along Valley Boulevard in San Gabriel are dozens of Asian mini-malls and hundreds of shops and restaurants. San Gabriel Square is one of the most prominent and features a 99 Ranch Market, several shops and restaurants including specialties such as Taiwanese and Vegetarian food. Valley Boulevard in San Gabriel also includes the comprehensive San Gabriel Superstore .
continuing east from Rosemead further along Valley are the largely Hispanic communities of El Monte and La Puente and large industrial tracks including those that dominate the City of Industry. This ten mile long largely industrial corridor includes several Asian owned wholesale businesses including importers of electronics, food and furniture from Asia. North of La Puente is West Covina which is 26% Asian and south of La Puente is Hacienda Heights which is 36% Asian. Hacienda Heights is home to the Hsi Lai Temple, the largest Buddhist temple in the United States. The Temple is off Hacienda Road, on Glenmark Drive, about three miles south of Valley. On the east side of the San Gabriel Valley, before Valley becomes Holt Avenue in Pomona, are the communities of Rowland Heights, Walnut and Diamond Bar. These three communities each have Asian populations of between 50 and 60%.
Before you revert me and then accuse me of stalking you in an attempt to deliberately harass you, I would like you to read what is acceptable use of rollback here: Wikipedia:Rollback feature#When to use rollback. Any further misuse to blank out my edits with no reason other than a threat on my talk page to "stop stalking me" will be reported to an administrator. …Grayshi talk ■ my contribs 20:26, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Doc talk 04:15, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Dear Fran, AsI said to Crohnie last night, I was half asleep and just clicking around the top of the page and there it was! I jsut checked again, twice. And I can't find it either. I have no explanation other than they veracity of my statement: "Where else would I have gotten it?" I will admit, when I am in pain, I get a bit snarky, but I never lie, was it Lincoln who said I don't have a good enough memory to lie /LOL! YOur above advice is actually right on and I am very grateful for your wisdom. I need to post it on my puter. As an aside, when I was dating my darling dead husband, the first book he bought me was "Women who love to much".I haven't changed I have to learn not to care so much. SIGH Thanks again Oh Esteemed "Mentor" admin and other good stuff.
I'm afraid that we're not allowed to copy significant chunks of text from other websites. [9] [10] See WP:COPYVIO. We should be able to find better sources for demographic info anyway. Will Beback talk 09:57, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Well at least I got to hear from you;-) Did I not change the text enough? As we have discussed before, I DO change the text, if you compare the two in the first link, there are a multitude of changes. I am going to bed, will compare the other two tomorrow. I thought if enough changes were made I was not violating WP:COPYVIO. That was never my intention. Respectfully... DocOfSoc ( talk) 10:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I apparently blew it. No more sleep typing! Joyfully yours...
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Doc talk 04:15, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Dear Franamax, Went back to clicking, it really bothers me when it seems my veracity may be in doubt. The template for the SoCal Chinatown is here [11]. So the mystery of where is solved, not, why and how? You don't know me that well,soI hope this is a big step forward ;-) Joyfully, Namaste... DocOfSoc ( talk) 21:17, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
DocOfSoc is being a pain by posting dictionary definitions of words he's never heard before (I'd used that one to describe her original research/synth-type contributions on a certain article), and apparently doesn't know how to make section headings on talkpages either. It has nothing to do with my question about the pronunciation of "Labouchere".....Skookum1 (talk) 18:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC) THIS was extremely insulting to someone who has skewed class vocabulary scores since third grade! And yes I goofed by not starting a new section, for which I apologize again. If you go back and read the page, I have tried several times to get along with Skook. While you are there, you can read how he has maligned me every step of the way. Now he has aligned himself with yet another reincarnation of sock puppet of SRQ, who is up for a permanent ban. [12] After being bombard by SRQ for so long, I will be the first to admit my patience has worn thin, and I am working on it. Since my baby sisters death earlier this year my RL is decimated. I ask for your patience and your continued sage advice. God isn't done with me yet! DocOfSoc ( talk) 02:20, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
OTOH, I live in a Chinese enclave, one mile from Temple City's Las Tunas ehtnoburb. it is unfortunate we don't have the pictures. It does feel like my friends and neighbors are being disregarded. I shall try to get the full text with pictures of the following:
Hi, just want to bring this to your attentions. There are administrators who watch this talk page who have dealt with blocking this sockmaster that may have an interest in this too. I don't want to name any names at this point but one of the administrators suggested this a while ago, I just don't remember which one. There is a new sock account going on right now that you can tell from the edits it's the same banned editor if anyone would care to block the account though I suspect it will be abandoned by now which is User:Bluetalonsteel. This editor has gotten one article protected due to socking and edit warring. Thanks, -- CrohnieGal Talk 12:40, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Copying text and then changing a few words is not sufficient. [13] You need to write it in your own words. See WP:PLAGIARISM. Will Beback talk 21:53, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Doc 2, this is really a serious issue. If you are running out of your own words to put in than maybe you need to walk away from the subjects all together for awhile. The community doesn't take lightly copying, ie; plagerism or copyright problems. You should never copy anything from any source to an article or anywhere else on this project. Read the sources, take notes if you have to but do not copy and paste it. If you have to, then do it on you own computer. Add a file to your computer and copy what you want to add to an article but haven't gotten it into your own words yet. This way you can work on using your own words without breaching policies here. There has been a lot lately about plagerism and copyright problems here at the project. Recently it got so bad that an arbitrator resigned his position also giving up everything else they were allowed to have and than retired from the site beause the heat go so bad. So please, it's really easy to make a file on your computer to work on something that you want to add to an article. Again, please do not ever copy anything to Wikipedia that you get from a source or that can be considered copyright or plagerism. It's never ends well and the pressure has to be enormous for the editor. The arbitrator I mentioned said it was an accident I believe but still the heat was on him. If you need to talk about this please email me since I'm about to leave my computer now. Please though listen to Will Beback and Franamax or anyone else that has your well being in mind. Your comments of sweetness, trust me on this, will not help if this ever gets elevated. I hope you understand, -- CrohnieGal Talk 19:39, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi, you can archive this, it's your talk page. But it still needs to be discussed so editor know you understand. Please respond or tell me it's none of my business and I'll move on. -- CrohnieGal Talk 14:31, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi. This morning, I removed a copyright problem from the article San Jacinto, California, which seems to have been added by you on November 15th: [14]. I see that there have been conversations with you about copying in the recent past. This content was copied from Ballotpedia, which is not compatibly licensed with Wikipedia. You may not copy content to Wikipedia from that site any more than you can from a fully protected publication. Please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:Copyrights and Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright. If you are not absolutely sure that content is free of copyright concerns, you should never place it here. It must be completely rewritten in your own words.
If you are sure that content is free of copyright concerns, you may copy it, but not in that manner. That consitutes "plagiarism" under Wikipedia's definition, even if you cite your source. See Wikipedia:Plagiarism. If you copy content, you must acknowledge that it is copied.
I see that above you are advised of other copyright problems that you have inadvertently created and asked to clean them. For instance, you were notified of a specific problem here on November 25th, but though you have been editing since, you have not fully addressed that concern. To clarify, this is what you added to that article in that edit:
The City of Alhambra was incorporated on July 11, 1903 and became the third city in the state to adopt bycharter the Council-Manager form of government. Council members are nominated by district and elected atlarge for four-year terms at elections held in even numbered years.
Alhambra occupies 7.69 square miles and generally has been fully developed since the 1960’s, the influx of new business, primarily Asian, has continued to grow and develop even further in the 21st century. Private development and higher densities have increased the population from 54,800 in 1960 to 89,171 in 2009. The City is diversified with single family and multiple family housing development, commercial development, and significant industrial development.
The City has implemented a full range of municipal services. Services provided include police, fire, street maintenance and improvements, trash collection, water and storm drains, recreation, upgraded the library, public improvements, planning zoning, and general administrative and support services.
This pdf says, at page V:
The City of Alhambra was incorporated on July 11, 1903 and became the third city in the state to adopt by charter the Council-Manager form of government. Council members are nominated by district and elected at large for four-year terms at elections held in even numbered years.... Alhambra occupies 7.69 square miles and generally has been fully developed since the 1960’s. Private development and higher densities have increased the population from 54,800 in 1960 to 89,171 in 2009. The City is diversified with single family and multiple family housing development, commercial development, and significant industrial development.
The City provides a full range of municipal services. Services provided include police, fire, street maintenance and improvements, trash collection, water and storm drains, recreation, library, public improvements, planning zoning, and general administrative and support services.
The city of Alhambra claims full copyright over its material. You removed some of this here, but left the bulk of it (which I have just removed.)
A glance at your contributions shows me that there is more cause for concern. For instance, much of the content added here is taken with no or minimal alteration from this pdf. Among the content you added is the following:
The site contains six buildings that seem to be eligible for individual listing on the National Register, the site is listed as a State Historical Landmark, and the entire site is listed in the California Register of Historical Resources.
As such, the entire site would be considered to be an historic resource under the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and would be subject to all of the rules and regulations therein. Of the 64 buildings on the 74 acre site, only 8 are eligible for historic designation. The Whittier Conservancy feels that there is plenty of land on the 74 acres for a successful mixed use development that could incorporate the older historic buildings for adaptive reuse along with infill development for big box, commercial,retail, senior and market rate.
Page 1 of the PDF produced by that private organization says:
The site contains six buildings that appear to be eligible for individual listing on the National Register, the site is listed as a State Historical Landmark, and the entire site is listed in the California Register of Historical Resources..
As such, the entire site would be considered to be an historic resource under the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and would be subject to all of the rules and regulations therein..
Of the 64 buildings on the 74 acre site, only 8 are eligible for historic designation. The Whittier Conservancy feels that there is plenty of land on the 74 acres for a successful mixed use development that could incorporate the older historic buildings for adaptive reuse along with infill development for big box, commercial, retail, senior and market rate housing.
You've also added this content to Whittier, California, here. (Content is being removed pending a rewrite.) As you are now aware, taking content from previously published sources with little or no change is inconsistent both with Wikipedia's handling of non-free content ( WP:C, WP:NFC) and with its approach to plagiarism. The former of these is a particularly serious concern. Fully cleaning up such content needs to be a priority.
Can you please tell me specifically what steps you are taking to evaluate your past contributions to make sure that other copyright concerns are being addressed? -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I see you have now gone to other editors seeking help in dealing with my edits. I'm sorry for causing all these problems, which I didn't know were problems until now. I was under the impression that I was supposed to use the edit summary to explain what I was doing, and since no other editors had complained about them, I figured I was doing to the right thing, but I guess I was wrong. Also, you're comment to another editor about me not having a funny bone seems a bit much, since from earlier messages, I thought you understood that I didn't know what talk page stalker meant at that point in time. It seems no matter what I do, you manage to find a problem with it, when all I'm trying to do is constructively clean up articles. It seems strange that with the problems you had in the past with being harrased, you would push away an editor who was actually trying to help. At this point, I feel it would be in everyones best interests if I just leave the California articles alone, and concentrate on other areas. Once again, I ask that you accept my appology for the problems I caused. Cmr08 ( talk) 17:17, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Look up anaphylaxis. Been mostly dead all day. New Drug allergy :-( DocOfSoc ( talk) 01:48, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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This section is a good example of something that needs to be addressed. I warned user about not using Wikipedia as a social network and user tells me to "get off my back and fuck off!" Meanwhile, user has continued to use talk page as a forum in follow-up edits. Civility and policy issues with this one. Atlantabravz ( talk) 04:15, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
DocOfSoc, I've added to the ANI discussion. Not sure if you want to add it here or not? (No objections to you wiping this post here - as is your right - and replacing it, or doing what you wish). TFOWR 08:54, 9 September 2010 (UTC) [1]
== Hearkening and obeyance ==
I'm at your command. How can I help? Will Beback talk 10:47, 10 September 2010 (UTC) : Wow! How tempting! ;-) TY!! The 2010 salary scandal in Bell article is a tad overwhelming, and altho we are not Wikinews it is pretty darn current with updates most days. Without your "Back" and wisdom, I was feeling bereft. I really need your input esp. since I could have in no way started this without you. (Before, I forget, I need to know how to do a redirect for another article please.) FYI: Altho, it would appear I have been around awhile, I spent my first 2 years in a Wiki war with the now banned SRQ on only three articles, so I have much to learn and am running as fast as I can. I have commenced on a huge project of basically updating and rewriting the towns of the entire San Gabriel Valley. As you are a neighbor ;-), I would appreciate your input in anything for which you have time. I have missed your snappy comments, truthfully. I really need your excellent teamwork as backup. I will stop here. Waiting breathlessly for your reply. Namaste--- DocOfSoc ( talk) 11:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)::You're doing great. We're all in this together. One could write a book about the corruption in the municipalities of Los Angeles County. Raymond Chandler almost made a career of it, but there's plenty of new material. However we must remember that an encyclopedia is very different from a crime novel. I have most of the local cities on my watchlist, but they have so much company there that I tend to overlook most editing activity. But I'll usually respond to specific requests. Will Beback talk 20:51, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
[2] clearly states that Nordbak's mayor. By the way, it wasn't exactly in good taste to undo someone with several good faith contributions to Whittier, and thousands of other contributions to Wikipedia 14:59, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Reprotected indef.-- SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 19:39, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Please, AS I have requested move this to the John Berry page as I requested previously. (redunduncy intended) And I am sorry, there seems to be some doubt in your mind as to the meaning of "irony" I totally disagree with you both linguistically, which I have studied extensively. DocOfSoc ( talk) 00:46, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Ten Hammers re: John Berry
TMI, I am outta here DocOfSoc ( talk) 06:53, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
I couldn't resist [3]. How ya been? Drop me a line sometime - it's been awhile :P Cheers, Doc #2 :> Doc9871 ( talk) 07:22, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
From The Wikiproject California page: [4]
Purple, since you say on your page,"I dislike America's ignorance of its own history and geography" I am astounded at your lack of knowledge of Calif. history. Cesar Chavez is not a "token" Mexican as you infer, but an very important historical figure here in Calif. And whomever said That "guy" who founded the *Missions* not stations, which expanded into many California cities, is "Father", or "Friar" or "Fray" Junipero Serra, and earned more historical respect. Our history is " a little too (sic) heavy on Spanish and Mexican land barons" because of the enormous role they had in settling and developing California. Did you not go to grammar school here in California? And to all: As an aside, why is one Williams sister mentioned and not the other? And why are the Red Hot Chili Peppers included? Surely, Daryl Gates deserves a mention. His changes to police work have been implemented all over the U.S. I really don't mean to offend anyone, but this discussion really... I am a loss for words despite evidence to the contrary, LOL. Lots of work to do. I am concentrating on SoCal Cities and their history. Also, I am curious why Janis Joplin, a Texan, is included. With the best of intentions...DocOfSoc (talk) 07:55, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
FYI Dear Killiondude, Hi Ya! I only asked about The Purple's schooling in case he attended in another state or country and perhaps could be excused for his lack of knowledge. The Beach Boys are icons and should be mentioned, which I did not. Steinbeck is a given. The Purple said this about Cesar: "Chavez because a state that has 8-10 million Mexicans should probably have a biography up there." As a Mexican-American, I found that racist and insulting but was polite about it. I had no intention of causing any divisiveness, but you may want to know that Purple was taken to Ani for insulting me before, as he has again on my talk page. I was very careful only to repeat his own words back to him. If you double check, you will see at no time did I "attack and/or lie." Yes, I speak plainly, but like Jack Nicholson said. "..some people just can't *Handle* the truth!" LOL! K'Dude you did an excellent job in assessing the situation and I look forward to working with you. Namaste!...DocOfSoc (talk) 11:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC) TO: PurpleBackpack:
Since I am vastly insulted *again* by this barely 21 year old prolific T**T, Purplebackpack, I thought it best I take a short redhead break and hope for my {pagestalker}s assistance. I am pretty sure it was the wonderful Tedder who spoke to him before. DocOfSoc ( talk) 04:13, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Also, to interested parties, this is the first time I've placed a boilerplate warning on her page, and there hasn't been an ANI thread involving the two of us Purple backpack89 07:50, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry to see you've had unhappiness here. This is an open editing project run mostly by volunteers, the contribution history of more or less every account is automatically logged and linked for all to see and anyone is welcome to look at an editor's contributions as a set. Although there are many fun and rewarding things that can happen when one edits here, now and then it can get nettlesome for any editor, almost all editors, for sundry reasons. If you take a break from this, even for a day or two, it's highly, highly likely you'll find things are not so bad as they seem to you now. I can give you a tip, many experienced editors have learned the hard way that when one becomes stirred up (emotional) about something here, whether or not one has edited within policy, by far the most helpful thing to do, is stop editing until one's feelings have settled down. These may seem like hollow words to you and that's ok too, but you may indeed find that breaking off on one's own for even a very short time can often do wonders here... DocOfSoc forgot to sign name added by -- CrohnieGal Talk 11:23, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I left a message for you there but now I am here. I am behind on a lot things obviously but can I help you with whatever it was that you were asking Doc help with? I think I'm about done at the arbcom case that has been taking up most of my time here and the rest is RL stuff that has been really stressful for me. Email me and I will tell you about it, I've even got pictures, that is if you're interested. Anyways, how can I help you, please I really would like to. -- CrohnieGal Talk 18:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- - Hi, hope you are doing well. Something of interest is in your email, take a peek... Be well, -- CrohnieGal Talk 17:38, 15 October 2010
Wasn't quite what we thought, but your socky-sense was correct ;-) TFOWR 22:28, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Namaste... DocOfSoc ( talk) 01:33, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
SRQ/ Dante? Link [6]
ANI archived SRQ [ [7]] 11-16-2010
They are unlike the Chinatown, Los Angeles or San Francisco Chinatown, the latter of which is undoubtedly still the largest in North America. Indeed, these "Chinatowns" tend to be suburban-style strip malls and shopping centers, and the amounts of them are fairly indicative of major Chinese diaspora population residing in the region. This has served as models for similar development in Chinatown, Las Vegas and Houston. Garvey Avenue in Monterey Park, Valley Boulevard in San Gabriel, and Colima Road in Rowland Heights are familiar landmarks to Chinese.
Rowland Heights offers its own mini Chinatown, including the businesses lining Colima Road (about one mile south of Valley), Fullerton Road and Nogales Avenue. Indoor malls in Rowland Heights feature fine restaurants and chic Asian boutiques. Continuing east from Rosemead further along Valley are the largely Hispanic communities of El Monte and La Puente and large industrial tracks including those that dominate the City of Industry. This ten mile long largely industrial corridor includes several Asian owned wholesale businesses including importers of electronics, food and furniture from Asia. North of La Puente is West Covina which is 26% Asian and south of La Puente is Hacienda Heights which is 36% Asian. Hacienda Heights is home to the Hsi Lai Temple, the largest Buddhist temple in the United States. The Temple is off Hacienda Road, on Glenmark Drive, about three miles south of Valley. On the east side of the San Gabriel Valley, before Valley becomes Holt Avenue in Pomona, are the communities of Rowland Heights, Walnut and Diamond Bar. These three communities each have Asian populations of between 50 and 60%.
The Asian communities in the San Gabriel Valley tend to lie along a 25 mile stretch of Valley Boulevard covering the entire length of the San Gabriel Valley with Alhambra on the west side and Diamond Bar on the east side. The northern San Gabriel valley includes largely White communities such as Pasadena and Monrovia while the southern part of the valley includes several Hispanic communities such as Montebello and Whittier. The Asian communities in the San Gabriel Valley tend to have a larger population of Hispanics than non-Hispanic Whites and Blacks. Asian communities in the San Gabriel Valley extend as far north as San Marino and Arcadia and as far south as Hacienda Heights and Rowland Heights.
Continuing east from Alhambra along Valley Boulevard are the cities of San Gabriel and Rosemead with San Marino, Temple City and Arcadia being further north and east. These five cities have Asian populations between 40 and 55% with a large number of Asian businesses and mini Chinatowns in their various town centers. Arcadia has some of the finest tofu and dumpling houses in the world. Temple City, especially along Las Tunas Boulevard, is home to dozens of wedding shops and photographers supporting the Asian tradition of taking studio quality photos of the bride and groom before the wedding. Along Valley Boulevard in San Gabriel are dozens of Asian mini-malls and hundreds of shops and restaurants. San Gabriel Square is one of the most prominent and features a 99 Ranch Market, several shops and restaurants including specialties such as Taiwanese and Vegetarian food. Valley Boulevard in San Gabriel also includes the comprehensive San Gabriel Superstore .
continuing east from Rosemead further along Valley are the largely Hispanic communities of El Monte and La Puente and large industrial tracks including those that dominate the City of Industry. This ten mile long largely industrial corridor includes several Asian owned wholesale businesses including importers of electronics, food and furniture from Asia. North of La Puente is West Covina which is 26% Asian and south of La Puente is Hacienda Heights which is 36% Asian. Hacienda Heights is home to the Hsi Lai Temple, the largest Buddhist temple in the United States. The Temple is off Hacienda Road, on Glenmark Drive, about three miles south of Valley. On the east side of the San Gabriel Valley, before Valley becomes Holt Avenue in Pomona, are the communities of Rowland Heights, Walnut and Diamond Bar. These three communities each have Asian populations of between 50 and 60%.
Before you revert me and then accuse me of stalking you in an attempt to deliberately harass you, I would like you to read what is acceptable use of rollback here: Wikipedia:Rollback feature#When to use rollback. Any further misuse to blank out my edits with no reason other than a threat on my talk page to "stop stalking me" will be reported to an administrator. …Grayshi talk ■ my contribs 20:26, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Doc talk 04:15, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Dear Fran, AsI said to Crohnie last night, I was half asleep and just clicking around the top of the page and there it was! I jsut checked again, twice. And I can't find it either. I have no explanation other than they veracity of my statement: "Where else would I have gotten it?" I will admit, when I am in pain, I get a bit snarky, but I never lie, was it Lincoln who said I don't have a good enough memory to lie /LOL! YOur above advice is actually right on and I am very grateful for your wisdom. I need to post it on my puter. As an aside, when I was dating my darling dead husband, the first book he bought me was "Women who love to much".I haven't changed I have to learn not to care so much. SIGH Thanks again Oh Esteemed "Mentor" admin and other good stuff.
I'm afraid that we're not allowed to copy significant chunks of text from other websites. [9] [10] See WP:COPYVIO. We should be able to find better sources for demographic info anyway. Will Beback talk 09:57, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Well at least I got to hear from you;-) Did I not change the text enough? As we have discussed before, I DO change the text, if you compare the two in the first link, there are a multitude of changes. I am going to bed, will compare the other two tomorrow. I thought if enough changes were made I was not violating WP:COPYVIO. That was never my intention. Respectfully... DocOfSoc ( talk) 10:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I apparently blew it. No more sleep typing! Joyfully yours...
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Doc talk 04:15, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Dear Franamax, Went back to clicking, it really bothers me when it seems my veracity may be in doubt. The template for the SoCal Chinatown is here [11]. So the mystery of where is solved, not, why and how? You don't know me that well,soI hope this is a big step forward ;-) Joyfully, Namaste... DocOfSoc ( talk) 21:17, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
DocOfSoc is being a pain by posting dictionary definitions of words he's never heard before (I'd used that one to describe her original research/synth-type contributions on a certain article), and apparently doesn't know how to make section headings on talkpages either. It has nothing to do with my question about the pronunciation of "Labouchere".....Skookum1 (talk) 18:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC) THIS was extremely insulting to someone who has skewed class vocabulary scores since third grade! And yes I goofed by not starting a new section, for which I apologize again. If you go back and read the page, I have tried several times to get along with Skook. While you are there, you can read how he has maligned me every step of the way. Now he has aligned himself with yet another reincarnation of sock puppet of SRQ, who is up for a permanent ban. [12] After being bombard by SRQ for so long, I will be the first to admit my patience has worn thin, and I am working on it. Since my baby sisters death earlier this year my RL is decimated. I ask for your patience and your continued sage advice. God isn't done with me yet! DocOfSoc ( talk) 02:20, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
OTOH, I live in a Chinese enclave, one mile from Temple City's Las Tunas ehtnoburb. it is unfortunate we don't have the pictures. It does feel like my friends and neighbors are being disregarded. I shall try to get the full text with pictures of the following:
Hi, just want to bring this to your attentions. There are administrators who watch this talk page who have dealt with blocking this sockmaster that may have an interest in this too. I don't want to name any names at this point but one of the administrators suggested this a while ago, I just don't remember which one. There is a new sock account going on right now that you can tell from the edits it's the same banned editor if anyone would care to block the account though I suspect it will be abandoned by now which is User:Bluetalonsteel. This editor has gotten one article protected due to socking and edit warring. Thanks, -- CrohnieGal Talk 12:40, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Copying text and then changing a few words is not sufficient. [13] You need to write it in your own words. See WP:PLAGIARISM. Will Beback talk 21:53, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Doc 2, this is really a serious issue. If you are running out of your own words to put in than maybe you need to walk away from the subjects all together for awhile. The community doesn't take lightly copying, ie; plagerism or copyright problems. You should never copy anything from any source to an article or anywhere else on this project. Read the sources, take notes if you have to but do not copy and paste it. If you have to, then do it on you own computer. Add a file to your computer and copy what you want to add to an article but haven't gotten it into your own words yet. This way you can work on using your own words without breaching policies here. There has been a lot lately about plagerism and copyright problems here at the project. Recently it got so bad that an arbitrator resigned his position also giving up everything else they were allowed to have and than retired from the site beause the heat go so bad. So please, it's really easy to make a file on your computer to work on something that you want to add to an article. Again, please do not ever copy anything to Wikipedia that you get from a source or that can be considered copyright or plagerism. It's never ends well and the pressure has to be enormous for the editor. The arbitrator I mentioned said it was an accident I believe but still the heat was on him. If you need to talk about this please email me since I'm about to leave my computer now. Please though listen to Will Beback and Franamax or anyone else that has your well being in mind. Your comments of sweetness, trust me on this, will not help if this ever gets elevated. I hope you understand, -- CrohnieGal Talk 19:39, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi, you can archive this, it's your talk page. But it still needs to be discussed so editor know you understand. Please respond or tell me it's none of my business and I'll move on. -- CrohnieGal Talk 14:31, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi. This morning, I removed a copyright problem from the article San Jacinto, California, which seems to have been added by you on November 15th: [14]. I see that there have been conversations with you about copying in the recent past. This content was copied from Ballotpedia, which is not compatibly licensed with Wikipedia. You may not copy content to Wikipedia from that site any more than you can from a fully protected publication. Please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:Copyrights and Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright. If you are not absolutely sure that content is free of copyright concerns, you should never place it here. It must be completely rewritten in your own words.
If you are sure that content is free of copyright concerns, you may copy it, but not in that manner. That consitutes "plagiarism" under Wikipedia's definition, even if you cite your source. See Wikipedia:Plagiarism. If you copy content, you must acknowledge that it is copied.
I see that above you are advised of other copyright problems that you have inadvertently created and asked to clean them. For instance, you were notified of a specific problem here on November 25th, but though you have been editing since, you have not fully addressed that concern. To clarify, this is what you added to that article in that edit:
The City of Alhambra was incorporated on July 11, 1903 and became the third city in the state to adopt bycharter the Council-Manager form of government. Council members are nominated by district and elected atlarge for four-year terms at elections held in even numbered years.
Alhambra occupies 7.69 square miles and generally has been fully developed since the 1960’s, the influx of new business, primarily Asian, has continued to grow and develop even further in the 21st century. Private development and higher densities have increased the population from 54,800 in 1960 to 89,171 in 2009. The City is diversified with single family and multiple family housing development, commercial development, and significant industrial development.
The City has implemented a full range of municipal services. Services provided include police, fire, street maintenance and improvements, trash collection, water and storm drains, recreation, upgraded the library, public improvements, planning zoning, and general administrative and support services.
This pdf says, at page V:
The City of Alhambra was incorporated on July 11, 1903 and became the third city in the state to adopt by charter the Council-Manager form of government. Council members are nominated by district and elected at large for four-year terms at elections held in even numbered years.... Alhambra occupies 7.69 square miles and generally has been fully developed since the 1960’s. Private development and higher densities have increased the population from 54,800 in 1960 to 89,171 in 2009. The City is diversified with single family and multiple family housing development, commercial development, and significant industrial development.
The City provides a full range of municipal services. Services provided include police, fire, street maintenance and improvements, trash collection, water and storm drains, recreation, library, public improvements, planning zoning, and general administrative and support services.
The city of Alhambra claims full copyright over its material. You removed some of this here, but left the bulk of it (which I have just removed.)
A glance at your contributions shows me that there is more cause for concern. For instance, much of the content added here is taken with no or minimal alteration from this pdf. Among the content you added is the following:
The site contains six buildings that seem to be eligible for individual listing on the National Register, the site is listed as a State Historical Landmark, and the entire site is listed in the California Register of Historical Resources.
As such, the entire site would be considered to be an historic resource under the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and would be subject to all of the rules and regulations therein. Of the 64 buildings on the 74 acre site, only 8 are eligible for historic designation. The Whittier Conservancy feels that there is plenty of land on the 74 acres for a successful mixed use development that could incorporate the older historic buildings for adaptive reuse along with infill development for big box, commercial,retail, senior and market rate.
Page 1 of the PDF produced by that private organization says:
The site contains six buildings that appear to be eligible for individual listing on the National Register, the site is listed as a State Historical Landmark, and the entire site is listed in the California Register of Historical Resources..
As such, the entire site would be considered to be an historic resource under the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and would be subject to all of the rules and regulations therein..
Of the 64 buildings on the 74 acre site, only 8 are eligible for historic designation. The Whittier Conservancy feels that there is plenty of land on the 74 acres for a successful mixed use development that could incorporate the older historic buildings for adaptive reuse along with infill development for big box, commercial, retail, senior and market rate housing.
You've also added this content to Whittier, California, here. (Content is being removed pending a rewrite.) As you are now aware, taking content from previously published sources with little or no change is inconsistent both with Wikipedia's handling of non-free content ( WP:C, WP:NFC) and with its approach to plagiarism. The former of these is a particularly serious concern. Fully cleaning up such content needs to be a priority.
Can you please tell me specifically what steps you are taking to evaluate your past contributions to make sure that other copyright concerns are being addressed? -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I see you have now gone to other editors seeking help in dealing with my edits. I'm sorry for causing all these problems, which I didn't know were problems until now. I was under the impression that I was supposed to use the edit summary to explain what I was doing, and since no other editors had complained about them, I figured I was doing to the right thing, but I guess I was wrong. Also, you're comment to another editor about me not having a funny bone seems a bit much, since from earlier messages, I thought you understood that I didn't know what talk page stalker meant at that point in time. It seems no matter what I do, you manage to find a problem with it, when all I'm trying to do is constructively clean up articles. It seems strange that with the problems you had in the past with being harrased, you would push away an editor who was actually trying to help. At this point, I feel it would be in everyones best interests if I just leave the California articles alone, and concentrate on other areas. Once again, I ask that you accept my appology for the problems I caused. Cmr08 ( talk) 17:17, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Look up anaphylaxis. Been mostly dead all day. New Drug allergy :-( DocOfSoc ( talk) 01:48, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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