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-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:38, 8 July 2021 (UTC)+
You ok? I got more info and references if we need. Also scan of Decca label, what do you think?
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US Billboard Harlem Hit Parade [1] | 2 |
US Billboard National Best Selling Retail Records Year-End | 2 |
US Billboard R&B Records Year-End | 14 |
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I just did one successfully for Pistol Packin' Mama. Check out the page, I did an overhaul. Next, I am going to make some new pages for records/songs that I feel should have one. And no stub pages allowed for me! haha. Tillywilly17 ( talk) 18:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
I will upload the scan for Paper Doll and we'll see how it goes. It looks good.
Sweet, all done. I need to supply references for the chart table. Tillywilly17 ( talk) 18:35, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
One problem at bottom Categories: 1915 songs 1943 songs <<< should be 1942 songs, not 1943.
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Boss, I need your help on fixing up this page, no rush at all. This song was recorded in 1931, but it is designated as 1935. I re-formatted page, correctly I believe, but I am still green at this level, so take a quick look. I made some command decisions on what to keep and what to remove. Getting ready to upload pic as final major edit. Thanks Tillywilly17 ( talk) 07:01, 8 August 2021 (UTC) Please remove stub notice if ok
You ought to check the talk page yourself. The nationality discussion has been reopened. A currently open question is, can someone provide a citation that Doyle considered himself British rather than Scottish or Irish, Consensus can change, and I haven't seen you participate in that new discussion. Skyerise ( talk) 22:06, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
You reverted the changes I made asking for a source. This is the source https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/danvillecityillinois Doughboy1918 ( talk) 14:09, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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field of the infobox with an updated one (and likewise wherever else in the article you change the figures).
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Hi! Six years ago, Witta (Widsith) was speedy deleted as duplicate of Witta, son of Wecta. Now, I know absolutely nothing about Germanic folklore, but Witta, son of Wecta is defined in its article as a ruler of the Juti, whereas Witta of the Widsith (according to that article) was a king of the Suebi (different tribes, different regions). It looks like they're different people. Or if it's actually the same person, then maybe the deleted title could be turned into a redirect instead? – Uanfala (talk) 00:00, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you for your comment in your edit summary "[quote] doesn't make it a 'comedic' film". I think this is something we should thresh out on the TALK page, and seek consensus. I made an entry there a couple of days ago in which I invited editors to discuss it before I added the word "comedic" it.
Well, I'm not going to edit-war, but I'm posting my reasons which I think justify calling the movie "comedic", and I invite you to join for discussion and consensus-seeking.
Thank you.
Best wishes, HandsomeMrToad ( talk) 10:34, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
I recently made a change to the article on “elegiac couplet” to mark the long vowels with macrons (overbars) in a sample of Latin verse. You reverted this change on the grounds that it was unnecessary and confusing, but I don’t think it’s either.
Regarding confusion, macrons are virtually universally used nowadays in Latin instruction, so most readers will be familiar with them. For those who aren’t, I added a link to the relevant Wikipedia article.
Regarding necessity, the distinction between long and short vowels is necessary for understanding Classical Latin meter, which relies on a contrast between long and short syllables ( https://inter-versiculos.classics.lsa.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Irby-Basic-Meter-Guide.pdf). Without the macrons, it is impossible to tell which vowels are long without already having memorized them.
As a result, I think the change should be included, since it makes a meaningful contribution to the content without any significant downsides. Mhartl ( talk) 16:44, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I certainly agree that macrons have not historically been included in more advanced texts, but there have been robust efforts in recent years to change this. In particular, there are many quite advanced modern Latinists who are challenging the notion that macrons are only for beginners.
I appreciate your perspective on poetic meter, but I think marking long vowels is especially important for understanding this case. While it’s true that questions about long-by-position might thereby be raised, as it currently stands there’s no way for the uninitiated to know why any of the syllables are long. Moreover, I think even many “proficient” readers of Latin do not in fact know where all the long vowels are, and so could not, e.g., correctly recite a poem like Horace’s Ode 37 without macrons.
I’m OK with keeping the reversion for some of the other reasons you mentioned (such as consistency throughout the article), but I also think it would be good for Wikipedia’s editors to consider moving in the direction of marking long vowels more often. They are exceptionally useful for beginners and are more useful for advanced students than is commonly recognized.
Mhartl ( talk) 18:02, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Help. You protected a page Extreme Obscenity to prevent disruptive editing. The page was deleted yesterday by an editor who then blocked the author of the page for disruptive editing. The editor in question does not appear to have contributed to the page or deletion discussion and ended it early after 2 days without giving an explanation. Are you able to rollback and extended protect the page from further vandalism? Regards 86.172.30.101 ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 07:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2021).
Thanks for your correction of coords for Statue of Hockey Player, of the works listed on the List of public art in Newark, New Jersey. The latter article includes locations coords for all items on the list. Some however are not exact or precies as they could be. If you felt inclined to correct them it would be improvement to article, and of course appreciated. Djflem ( talk) 15:26, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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I had no idea how to put in those references in the discussion about Shelley H. Metzenbaum, so I have now learned something. Thanks. DaffodilOcean ( talk) 19:40, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
List of public art in Jersey City, New Jersey has coordinates which are mostly correct, but could be more precise, if you were up to it. Thanks Djflem ( talk) 02:47, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
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This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).
Interface administrator changes
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Two years! |
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-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:38, 8 July 2021 (UTC)+
You ok? I got more info and references if we need. Also scan of Decca label, what do you think?
Charts (1943-44) | Rank |
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US Billboard National Best Selling Retail Records | 1 |
US Billboard Harlem Hit Parade [1] | 2 |
US Billboard National Best Selling Retail Records Year-End | 2 |
US Billboard R&B Records Year-End | 14 |
References
I just did one successfully for Pistol Packin' Mama. Check out the page, I did an overhaul. Next, I am going to make some new pages for records/songs that I feel should have one. And no stub pages allowed for me! haha. Tillywilly17 ( talk) 18:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
I will upload the scan for Paper Doll and we'll see how it goes. It looks good.
Sweet, all done. I need to supply references for the chart table. Tillywilly17 ( talk) 18:35, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
One problem at bottom Categories: 1915 songs 1943 songs <<< should be 1942 songs, not 1943.
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).
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Boss, I need your help on fixing up this page, no rush at all. This song was recorded in 1931, but it is designated as 1935. I re-formatted page, correctly I believe, but I am still green at this level, so take a quick look. I made some command decisions on what to keep and what to remove. Getting ready to upload pic as final major edit. Thanks Tillywilly17 ( talk) 07:01, 8 August 2021 (UTC) Please remove stub notice if ok
You ought to check the talk page yourself. The nationality discussion has been reopened. A currently open question is, can someone provide a citation that Doyle considered himself British rather than Scottish or Irish, Consensus can change, and I haven't seen you participate in that new discussion. Skyerise ( talk) 22:06, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
You reverted the changes I made asking for a source. This is the source https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/danvillecityillinois Doughboy1918 ( talk) 14:09, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
|population_footnotes=
field of the infobox with an updated one (and likewise wherever else in the article you change the figures).
Deor (
talk) 15:58, 1 September 2021 (UTC)News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).
Hi! Six years ago, Witta (Widsith) was speedy deleted as duplicate of Witta, son of Wecta. Now, I know absolutely nothing about Germanic folklore, but Witta, son of Wecta is defined in its article as a ruler of the Juti, whereas Witta of the Widsith (according to that article) was a king of the Suebi (different tribes, different regions). It looks like they're different people. Or if it's actually the same person, then maybe the deleted title could be turned into a redirect instead? – Uanfala (talk) 00:00, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).
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Interface administrator changes
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Thank you for your comment in your edit summary "[quote] doesn't make it a 'comedic' film". I think this is something we should thresh out on the TALK page, and seek consensus. I made an entry there a couple of days ago in which I invited editors to discuss it before I added the word "comedic" it.
Well, I'm not going to edit-war, but I'm posting my reasons which I think justify calling the movie "comedic", and I invite you to join for discussion and consensus-seeking.
Thank you.
Best wishes, HandsomeMrToad ( talk) 10:34, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
I recently made a change to the article on “elegiac couplet” to mark the long vowels with macrons (overbars) in a sample of Latin verse. You reverted this change on the grounds that it was unnecessary and confusing, but I don’t think it’s either.
Regarding confusion, macrons are virtually universally used nowadays in Latin instruction, so most readers will be familiar with them. For those who aren’t, I added a link to the relevant Wikipedia article.
Regarding necessity, the distinction between long and short vowels is necessary for understanding Classical Latin meter, which relies on a contrast between long and short syllables ( https://inter-versiculos.classics.lsa.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Irby-Basic-Meter-Guide.pdf). Without the macrons, it is impossible to tell which vowels are long without already having memorized them.
As a result, I think the change should be included, since it makes a meaningful contribution to the content without any significant downsides. Mhartl ( talk) 16:44, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I certainly agree that macrons have not historically been included in more advanced texts, but there have been robust efforts in recent years to change this. In particular, there are many quite advanced modern Latinists who are challenging the notion that macrons are only for beginners.
I appreciate your perspective on poetic meter, but I think marking long vowels is especially important for understanding this case. While it’s true that questions about long-by-position might thereby be raised, as it currently stands there’s no way for the uninitiated to know why any of the syllables are long. Moreover, I think even many “proficient” readers of Latin do not in fact know where all the long vowels are, and so could not, e.g., correctly recite a poem like Horace’s Ode 37 without macrons.
I’m OK with keeping the reversion for some of the other reasons you mentioned (such as consistency throughout the article), but I also think it would be good for Wikipedia’s editors to consider moving in the direction of marking long vowels more often. They are exceptionally useful for beginners and are more useful for advanced students than is commonly recognized.
Mhartl ( talk) 18:02, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Help. You protected a page Extreme Obscenity to prevent disruptive editing. The page was deleted yesterday by an editor who then blocked the author of the page for disruptive editing. The editor in question does not appear to have contributed to the page or deletion discussion and ended it early after 2 days without giving an explanation. Are you able to rollback and extended protect the page from further vandalism? Regards 86.172.30.101 ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 07:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2021).
Thanks for your correction of coords for Statue of Hockey Player, of the works listed on the List of public art in Newark, New Jersey. The latter article includes locations coords for all items on the list. Some however are not exact or precies as they could be. If you felt inclined to correct them it would be improvement to article, and of course appreciated. Djflem ( talk) 15:26, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2021).
A recently closed Request for Comment (RFC) reached consensus to remove Autopatrolled from the administrator user group. You may, similarly as with Edit Filter Manager, choose to self-assign this permission to yourself. This will be implemented the week of December 13th, but if you wish to self-assign you may do so now. To find out when the change has gone live or if you have any questions please visit the Administrator's Noticeboard. 20:05, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
I had no idea how to put in those references in the discussion about Shelley H. Metzenbaum, so I have now learned something. Thanks. DaffodilOcean ( talk) 19:40, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
List of public art in Jersey City, New Jersey has coordinates which are mostly correct, but could be more precise, if you were up to it. Thanks Djflem ( talk) 02:47, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
A token of thanks
Hi Deor! I've
nominated you (along with all other active admins) to receive a solstice season gift from the WMF. Talk page stalkers are invited to comment at the nomination. Enjoy! Cheers, {{u|
Sdkb}}
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