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spintendo 14:17, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Your recent edit to
Durban High School appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list
should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's
notability guideline. You added an apparently non-notable name to a list of notable individuals.
Gab4gab (
talk) 15:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I thought being a president of NUSAS would itself constitute sufficient notability. In fact, Tip went on to a distinguished career as a lawyer and judge in South Africa. Still, I don't feel strongly about this, and am happy to leave it to the Wikipedia editors. But you might want to consider whether an item listing "past DHS pupils who were presidents of NUSAS" should include only those who not only satisfy that description but also have a Wikipedia page.
Here are some links for Tip:
https://www.sahistory.org.za/people/karel-tip https://www.facebook.com/EclecticSportsManagement/posts/advocate-karel-tip-will-chair-the-remainder-of-the-disciplinary-hearing-of-suspe/266761413434843/ http://www.historicalpapers.wits.ac.za/inventories/inv_pdft/AG3298/AG3298-1-182-text.pdf
- Hello Davidpapineau, You may be correct in thinking Tip is notable. However, Wikipedia evaluates notability based on the independent coverage published on a subject. The criteria for notability of biographies can be found at WP:NBIO. If after reviewing that criteria you still feel he is notable I suggest you create an article for him. Then add him to whatever lists of notables are appropriate. I did take a look at National Union of South African Students. There is a list of notables there which does not include Tip, among other former presidents. Gab4gab ( talk) 16:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. I would indeed say that Tip is notable by the criteria at WP:NBIO. But I fear that I don't have the time to do a Wikipedia page for him myself. You might have noted that he is cited in the body of that National Union of South African Students Wikipedia page, and that there is a photo of him there. Perhaps if he were listed on the Durban High School page as well, that might encourage others to do a full Wikipedia page for him.
- You might find that it takes little time to create a stub article. The difficult task is to find sufficient independent secondary reliable sources to avoid deletion for lack of notability. Of the three sources you listed only the first is helpful. Facebook is not considered reliable and interviews where the subject provides the content are not independent. Gab4gab ( talk) 14:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
This is your only warning; if you
use Wikipedia for soapboxing, promotion or advertising again, as you did at
David Papineau, you may be
blocked from editing without further notice.
Rayman60 (
talk) 02:13, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
User_talk:Spintendo#Reply_25-JUL-2018. A response to your message has been posted at my talk page. Thank you!
spintendo 14:17, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Your recent edit to
Durban High School appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list
should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's
notability guideline. You added an apparently non-notable name to a list of notable individuals.
Gab4gab (
talk) 15:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I thought being a president of NUSAS would itself constitute sufficient notability. In fact, Tip went on to a distinguished career as a lawyer and judge in South Africa. Still, I don't feel strongly about this, and am happy to leave it to the Wikipedia editors. But you might want to consider whether an item listing "past DHS pupils who were presidents of NUSAS" should include only those who not only satisfy that description but also have a Wikipedia page.
Here are some links for Tip:
https://www.sahistory.org.za/people/karel-tip https://www.facebook.com/EclecticSportsManagement/posts/advocate-karel-tip-will-chair-the-remainder-of-the-disciplinary-hearing-of-suspe/266761413434843/ http://www.historicalpapers.wits.ac.za/inventories/inv_pdft/AG3298/AG3298-1-182-text.pdf
- Hello Davidpapineau, You may be correct in thinking Tip is notable. However, Wikipedia evaluates notability based on the independent coverage published on a subject. The criteria for notability of biographies can be found at WP:NBIO. If after reviewing that criteria you still feel he is notable I suggest you create an article for him. Then add him to whatever lists of notables are appropriate. I did take a look at National Union of South African Students. There is a list of notables there which does not include Tip, among other former presidents. Gab4gab ( talk) 16:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. I would indeed say that Tip is notable by the criteria at WP:NBIO. But I fear that I don't have the time to do a Wikipedia page for him myself. You might have noted that he is cited in the body of that National Union of South African Students Wikipedia page, and that there is a photo of him there. Perhaps if he were listed on the Durban High School page as well, that might encourage others to do a full Wikipedia page for him.
- You might find that it takes little time to create a stub article. The difficult task is to find sufficient independent secondary reliable sources to avoid deletion for lack of notability. Of the three sources you listed only the first is helpful. Facebook is not considered reliable and interviews where the subject provides the content are not independent. Gab4gab ( talk) 14:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)