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Hi - you might be interested in a new article on Fish in Australia that has been cobbled together from various wikipdia articles. Regards-- A Y Arktos 23:55, 14 December 2005 (UTC) reply

thanks for your Albury, New South Wales edit. Is there a source for the info about the flows in the Murray River at Albury before the Hume Dam - not because I have any qualms about the info but rather it gives the reader who wants more info somewhere to go.-- A Y Arktos 21:14, 17 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Thanks. A lot of info floating about on the original flow patterns of the Murray River and southern tributaries. A book called "The Murray" - a good compilation of research by a number of authors, and put out by the Murray-Darling Basin Commission in 1990 - has the info and I believe is one of the places where you can source a graph of pre-regulation verses regulated flows of the Murray River.

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Hi - just to check I have the right one ... Norman Mackay and David Eastburn (editors), ed. (1990). The Murray. Canberra, Australia: Murray-Darling Basin Commission. ISBN  1875209050. {{ cite book}}: |editor= has generic name ( help); Cite has empty unknown parameters: |coauthors= and |month= ( help) Found from National Library catalogue Regards -- A Y Arktos 02:54, 18 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Yep, that's it. It's an excellent book. Of course, some of the science in it is a bit dated now, but overall it's still an excellent and useful book. The MDBC has now released a companion edition called "The Darling" that I look forward to reading sometime too. Another thought - graphs of the original verses regulated flow regimes of the Murray River may be available on the MDBC website (www.mdbc.gov.au), which is pretty good. I am pretty passionate about MDBC rivers and their ecology, particularly as it relates to native freshwater fish, so I am happy to help with any queries you may have. Cheers, Codman 03:07, 18 December 2005 (UTC) reply

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Just wanted to say hi, and appreciate your fish additions, including great pics. There are all too few species with the properly in-depth treatment that you've written! You might want to consider re-uploading your images to the commons, which is better-organized to make galleries of multiple images, and also makes them available to people writing in other languages (oftentimes I notice that they find good articles in English and translate them). Stan 14:48, 18 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks Stan. There's a few things in Wikipedia that I haven't worked out yet. Putting photos into commons, and putting up disambiguation pages are two examples ('Guyu' needs disambiguation between a Chinese solar period and a genus of Australian native fish). If you can advise on how to do either of these two things, that would be great. RE pictures, I'm hoping to put up a couple more nice Australian native fish pictures at some stage. Cheers, Codman 00:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Seconded. Your articles are excellent, and it's nice to see that you have a username. Gdr 14:51, 3 February 2006 (UTC) reply

Guyu

Hi Codman. You might be interested to know that I have created an article for the Bloomfield River Cod based on your comments on the Guyu page. Couldn't find much information but it is a start. Garglebutt / (talk) 21:59, 30 January 2006 (UTC) reply

If you have a look at the source for the Guyu page you will see that the link to the cod article is a special template. I don't think it is worthwhile creating a separate disambig page as I doubt many people know about this very rare genus of Percichthyidae. Garglebutt / (talk) 23:23, 30 January 2006 (UTC) reply

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Could you suggest a name? Upland and lowland (freshwater ecology) would be straightforward, but maybe there's term of art (along the lines of "freshwater ecological zone" of "riverine ecological zone"). Gdr 15:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC) reply

I merged the two pages into Upland and lowland (freshwater ecology) and added a couple of illustrations. Please check that I haven't made any errors in carrying out the merge. You'll see that links work properly from pages like Mountain Galaxias. Gdr 19:44, 1 March 2006 (UTC) reply

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I think the specific word for fish larva is fry. Some people use "fry" for older larva, but I think in most cases, the two words are pretty much interchangeable. Cheers. -- Melanochromis 12:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the message. I'm afraid I do not agree however. The term "fry" is a rather anachronistic and informal term for larvae that evolved largely in salmonid hatcheries in reference to salmonid species. Having done some recent scientific research and writing on fish larvae, I can assure you that larvae is the correct term. Cheers, Codman 00:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Hi again Codman. From my experience, the word "fry" is used in a lot in aquaculture and the aquarium hobby context. It's not just salmons and trouts, but most aquarium fishes newly hatched are called fry too. It could be just a colloquial term but it's as popular in the daily language as "wriggler" for mosquito, or "grub" for beetle. Anyway I won't try to contradict you, as you probably know much more on the subject. So, it's up to your judgment then. Cheers, -- Melanochromis 01:57, 7 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Yes, fry is a popular term in aquaculture and aquarist situations, so it has some validity as a term. But in scientific literature "larvae" is the accepted term. Cheers, Codman 04:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Looking great for an article that started about an hour ago. Kudos to you! JohnCub 01:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Thanks! Cheers, Codman 05:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC) reply

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Thanks. Appreciate. I've posted bit below for my own benefit! Cheers, Codman 06:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC) reply

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Rowland found cod breed like this [1]. Rowland [1] and Lake [2] both found strong evidence that cod resorb their developing roe if captured in winter.

  1. ^ a b Rowland, S.J. (2005) Cod review. MDBC Workshop
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for our student textbook about Charles Darwin we want to use your nice photo of the little fish Galaxias. We kindly ask you for permission to use your photo. Of course your name appears in the list of figures together with a hint of the licence conditions. With best regards Paul

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Thank you, you are welcome to use it. I don't need any attribution to myself. Codman ( talk) 09:11, 5 September 2012 (UTC) reply

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Inline refs at Eastern freshwater cod?

Hi Codman, do you think there's any chance you might get around to putting these inline reference indicators into the 'Conservation' section of Eastern freshwater cod? As it is now, it might as well be unreferenced (and should thus be removed) because no one can connect any of the references to individual statements. Let me renew my offer to do the formatting - just put some kind of indicator behind individual sentences (e.g., "ref: Rowland 1993 - Maccullochella ikei paper") and I will pretty it up. (Better put some note into the edit summary too in that case so that it doesn't get reverted by someone else before I get to it :). Cheers -- Elmidae ( talk) 14:58, 15 August 2015 (UTC) reply

G'day mate. Look, I'm sorry, I find the inline citations very hard to do (I can do them -- JUST -- if I have lots of time and can constantly look at other pages to see how they're done) and just don't have the time at the moment. I've thrown in the citations in the text where they should go, and provided the full citations in an old fashioned ref-list at the bottom. It should be enough for someone who knows what they're doing and are quick to change it to inline citation. Otherwise, at some very lengthy delayed point in time, I'll get around to doing it. Cheers. Codman ( talk) 00:18, 18 August 2015 (UTC) reply
Thanks Codman, that should do just fine - I can go from there. Cheers! -- Elmidae ( talk) 07:13, 18 August 2015 (UTC) reply
Great, thanks for your help. It looks good. Codman ( talk) 04:01, 19 August 2015 (UTC) reply

Point to a ref for introduced pathogens @ Murray Cod?

Hi Codman, I saw you did some editing in the "Introduced Pathogens" section of Murray Cod. That seems to be the least-referenced section in the article by now (the rest is quite nicely kitted out). Presumably one or more of the many refs below could also be used to attribute the stuff in this section. Since you appear to have an overview of the literature, do you think you could point out one or two of those that could be re-used there? If you give the names here, I'll insert the links. Cheers! -- Elmidae ( talk) 09:15, 1 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Righto, I'll rustle something up in the next few weeks.

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New article: Fish in Australia

Hi - you might be interested in a new article on Fish in Australia that has been cobbled together from various wikipdia articles. Regards-- A Y Arktos 23:55, 14 December 2005 (UTC) reply

thanks for your Albury, New South Wales edit. Is there a source for the info about the flows in the Murray River at Albury before the Hume Dam - not because I have any qualms about the info but rather it gives the reader who wants more info somewhere to go.-- A Y Arktos 21:14, 17 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Thanks. A lot of info floating about on the original flow patterns of the Murray River and southern tributaries. A book called "The Murray" - a good compilation of research by a number of authors, and put out by the Murray-Darling Basin Commission in 1990 - has the info and I believe is one of the places where you can source a graph of pre-regulation verses regulated flows of the Murray River.

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Hi - just to check I have the right one ... Norman Mackay and David Eastburn (editors), ed. (1990). The Murray. Canberra, Australia: Murray-Darling Basin Commission. ISBN  1875209050. {{ cite book}}: |editor= has generic name ( help); Cite has empty unknown parameters: |coauthors= and |month= ( help) Found from National Library catalogue Regards -- A Y Arktos 02:54, 18 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Yep, that's it. It's an excellent book. Of course, some of the science in it is a bit dated now, but overall it's still an excellent and useful book. The MDBC has now released a companion edition called "The Darling" that I look forward to reading sometime too. Another thought - graphs of the original verses regulated flow regimes of the Murray River may be available on the MDBC website (www.mdbc.gov.au), which is pretty good. I am pretty passionate about MDBC rivers and their ecology, particularly as it relates to native freshwater fish, so I am happy to help with any queries you may have. Cheers, Codman 03:07, 18 December 2005 (UTC) reply

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Just wanted to say hi, and appreciate your fish additions, including great pics. There are all too few species with the properly in-depth treatment that you've written! You might want to consider re-uploading your images to the commons, which is better-organized to make galleries of multiple images, and also makes them available to people writing in other languages (oftentimes I notice that they find good articles in English and translate them). Stan 14:48, 18 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks Stan. There's a few things in Wikipedia that I haven't worked out yet. Putting photos into commons, and putting up disambiguation pages are two examples ('Guyu' needs disambiguation between a Chinese solar period and a genus of Australian native fish). If you can advise on how to do either of these two things, that would be great. RE pictures, I'm hoping to put up a couple more nice Australian native fish pictures at some stage. Cheers, Codman 00:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Seconded. Your articles are excellent, and it's nice to see that you have a username. Gdr 14:51, 3 February 2006 (UTC) reply

Guyu

Hi Codman. You might be interested to know that I have created an article for the Bloomfield River Cod based on your comments on the Guyu page. Couldn't find much information but it is a start. Garglebutt / (talk) 21:59, 30 January 2006 (UTC) reply

If you have a look at the source for the Guyu page you will see that the link to the cod article is a special template. I don't think it is worthwhile creating a separate disambig page as I doubt many people know about this very rare genus of Percichthyidae. Garglebutt / (talk) 23:23, 30 January 2006 (UTC) reply

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Could you suggest a name? Upland and lowland (freshwater ecology) would be straightforward, but maybe there's term of art (along the lines of "freshwater ecological zone" of "riverine ecological zone"). Gdr 15:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC) reply

I merged the two pages into Upland and lowland (freshwater ecology) and added a couple of illustrations. Please check that I haven't made any errors in carrying out the merge. You'll see that links work properly from pages like Mountain Galaxias. Gdr 19:44, 1 March 2006 (UTC) reply

Murray cod

Actually B is the highest rating before GA and FA (leaving aside A, which is a bit of an oddity). To get to GA or FA somebody has to to ask for it to be assessed for those classes. On the other hand the issue with this article is references, which despite what may be said in some places boils down to in-line references. There is no evidence that much more than 3 or 4 general references is useful. You need to concentrate on footnotes, which are created by inserting text between <ref> and </ref> using cite templates (see WP:CITET), especially for online refs. For witten refs you need only write <ref>Anderson, et al (1992), p15</ref>. Nowadays FA processes seem to require anywhere more than 30-50 footnotes.-- Grahamec 04:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC) reply

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I think the specific word for fish larva is fry. Some people use "fry" for older larva, but I think in most cases, the two words are pretty much interchangeable. Cheers. -- Melanochromis 12:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the message. I'm afraid I do not agree however. The term "fry" is a rather anachronistic and informal term for larvae that evolved largely in salmonid hatcheries in reference to salmonid species. Having done some recent scientific research and writing on fish larvae, I can assure you that larvae is the correct term. Cheers, Codman 00:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Hi again Codman. From my experience, the word "fry" is used in a lot in aquaculture and the aquarium hobby context. It's not just salmons and trouts, but most aquarium fishes newly hatched are called fry too. It could be just a colloquial term but it's as popular in the daily language as "wriggler" for mosquito, or "grub" for beetle. Anyway I won't try to contradict you, as you probably know much more on the subject. So, it's up to your judgment then. Cheers, -- Melanochromis 01:57, 7 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Yes, fry is a popular term in aquaculture and aquarist situations, so it has some validity as a term. But in scientific literature "larvae" is the accepted term. Cheers, Codman 04:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Looking great for an article that started about an hour ago. Kudos to you! JohnCub 01:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Thanks! Cheers, Codman 05:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC) reply

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Hi, hope you don't mind, saw your question on DanielT5's talk page. What you need to do to create multiple refs to the same thing is use names on your references - eg Blah blah blah,<ref name=blah111>Details of ref</ref> blah blah blah blah.<ref name=blah111/> Blah... will put the same number with both citations. The / is the key (it can have a space before it but doesn't have to), and you don't put a /ref after it. Hope this helps :) Orderinchaos 14:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC) reply

Thanks. Appreciate. I've posted bit below for my own benefit! Cheers, Codman 06:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC) reply

Multiple refs example

Rowland found cod breed like this [1]. Rowland [1] and Lake [2] both found strong evidence that cod resorb their developing roe if captured in winter.

  1. ^ a b Rowland, S.J. (2005) Cod review. MDBC Workshop
  2. ^ Lake, J.S. (1697) Cod spawning paper. AJMFR

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for our student textbook about Charles Darwin we want to use your nice photo of the little fish Galaxias. We kindly ask you for permission to use your photo. Of course your name appears in the list of figures together with a hint of the licence conditions. With best regards Paul

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Thank you, you are welcome to use it. I don't need any attribution to myself. Codman ( talk) 09:11, 5 September 2012 (UTC) reply

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Inline refs at Eastern freshwater cod?

Hi Codman, do you think there's any chance you might get around to putting these inline reference indicators into the 'Conservation' section of Eastern freshwater cod? As it is now, it might as well be unreferenced (and should thus be removed) because no one can connect any of the references to individual statements. Let me renew my offer to do the formatting - just put some kind of indicator behind individual sentences (e.g., "ref: Rowland 1993 - Maccullochella ikei paper") and I will pretty it up. (Better put some note into the edit summary too in that case so that it doesn't get reverted by someone else before I get to it :). Cheers -- Elmidae ( talk) 14:58, 15 August 2015 (UTC) reply

G'day mate. Look, I'm sorry, I find the inline citations very hard to do (I can do them -- JUST -- if I have lots of time and can constantly look at other pages to see how they're done) and just don't have the time at the moment. I've thrown in the citations in the text where they should go, and provided the full citations in an old fashioned ref-list at the bottom. It should be enough for someone who knows what they're doing and are quick to change it to inline citation. Otherwise, at some very lengthy delayed point in time, I'll get around to doing it. Cheers. Codman ( talk) 00:18, 18 August 2015 (UTC) reply
Thanks Codman, that should do just fine - I can go from there. Cheers! -- Elmidae ( talk) 07:13, 18 August 2015 (UTC) reply
Great, thanks for your help. It looks good. Codman ( talk) 04:01, 19 August 2015 (UTC) reply

Point to a ref for introduced pathogens @ Murray Cod?

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Righto, I'll rustle something up in the next few weeks.

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