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St. Andrew's High School

Hi.

Thanks for the advice to use the Sandbox but I tried that ooh, donkey's years ago, and I did so under my login name. That's the one I don't bother with now, having become disenchanted with the endless barracking that followed most of my contributions (while I could still be arsed).

Sadly your admirably restrained comments are woefully misdirected: the business about shared IP addresses notwithstanding (the bit in the tagged-on template that lists only one possibility) is not relevant because neither I (nor my partner, the only other person with access to our router at the time in question) went near the blessed page.

Before you ask our living room is categorically not a public place (no dinner parties, no au pair, home help or grandchildren), and is neither a public library (though we do own quite a few real books) nor academic institution (though we do occasionally read them and discuss the contents).

In short no one had access to our IP address as listed in the relevant time and date in the relevant Page History.

Recalling the master work of the late, great Stieg Larsson, and the principal there is always more to everything if you look hard enough I examined the revelvant Page History and discovered all of the offending edits are all listed as mobile. Now you can't know this, not for sure, but my domestic IT setup is very, very static, being assigned by a mainstream broadband provider and tied to a particular land line.

(Like most domestic WiFi setups, mine presents 'masked' IP addresses having no connection to what comes up if one types 'what's my IP' into a search engine while on-line.)

How can this be?

There are two possibilities: a mystery Wikipedia contributor somehow broke into my house, hacked my router, and edited your article then left without a trace (more alarming to an avid reader of thee Millenium Trilogy than the more routine sort who makes off with your widescreen TV) or - and I invested a ten whole seconds checking this out - the mystery hacker used IP SPOOFING (see article).

Not being an alumni, a relative of a student or a Worthing native - though I have lived part-time in the town for over a decade - I am only peripherally aware of the existence of what I now know to be St Andrew's High School but that's about it, as connections go, and certainly not enough to have any interest in reading the article, far less mucking about with it.

If it was my page - and if I was in the mood to play detective - I'd start by assuming a person with a puerile sense of humour and some kind of connection with the particular institution in question was likely to be on the young side, and not being daft said mischief-maker trawled for likely IP numbers to hide behind, then used a mobile device with an IP Masking App in the certain knowledge someone older and wiser would take the flak.

(This interpretation is supported by the fact at least one edit included a description of someone (possibly the culprit but more probably a false name or an innocent third party) as a 'St Andrew's notable' and self-styled 'prankster'.)

Perhaps those IT experts with time on their hands can somehow trace 'mobile edits' supposedly made by contributors using what are in fact 'static' IP addresses but I doubt the effort would yield any meaningful results: like attaching cloned number plates to a stolen car, the possibility of detection is minimal and the deception only has to last long enough to accomplish a bit of skulduggery then go onto the next false registration. Good luck progressing the above, if you choose to do so, but if you do please mention IP Spoofing (see article).

I mean, if it's in Wikipedia it has to be true, right?

No Wikipedia is not a reliable source:)
Seems a bit technical fot the average school vandal, but who knows? We have a mystery. Charles ( talk) 21:54, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

10 years ago today....

...you created your user page. Don't know about you but I'd say these last 10 years have gone by very quickly. I still remember 2007 very well (the year Lewis Hamilton made his debut in Formula 1) and I can't believe thats 10 years ago now. Congratulations for 10 years of service, Charles! Keep up the good work on Wikipedia. Class455 ( talk| stand clear of the doors!) 22:32, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. Yes, Wikipedia was in its infancy then and more like the wild west, with a public reputation for unreliability. A lot has changed. Charles ( talk) 08:48, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Charles, to add my good wishes and thanks for ten years of super editing. Best regards, David, David J Johnson ( talk) 09:57, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Merger discussion for East Wittering

An article that you have been involved in editing— East Wittering—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 15:56, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Use Of Capitals

Apologies for overuse of capitalisation and thankyou for pointing it out. It is one of my great failings, spelling, grammar and overdoing lists being others. When I start overusing it is an indication I need to take a break from Wikipedia which I have chosen to do with immediate effect for a while. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 03:02, 11 June 2017 (UTC) Despite *thinking* I had used the correct Capitalisation 'Culture and community' and *thinking* I had checked and rechecked and previewed that on my edit to Bognor Regis it seems I had again failed miserably and reread what I thought I had written and not what I actually wrote. Thankyou for the correction. I have fixed a couple of citations on the article in penance. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 07:40, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Butlins Skegness

Hello, I've reverted your removal of my inclusion of a link to Butlins Skegness Caravan Village on the Butlins Skegness page. I fail to see how adding a link to a Butlins property can be considered spam? BritishGuy ( talk) 20:28, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Second edit - I fail to see how you can define a link to their own website as spam? However, I will go away and study the guidelines in-place to understand this better. BritishGuy ( talk) 21:33, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

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St. Andrew's High School

Hi.

Thanks for the advice to use the Sandbox but I tried that ooh, donkey's years ago, and I did so under my login name. That's the one I don't bother with now, having become disenchanted with the endless barracking that followed most of my contributions (while I could still be arsed).

Sadly your admirably restrained comments are woefully misdirected: the business about shared IP addresses notwithstanding (the bit in the tagged-on template that lists only one possibility) is not relevant because neither I (nor my partner, the only other person with access to our router at the time in question) went near the blessed page.

Before you ask our living room is categorically not a public place (no dinner parties, no au pair, home help or grandchildren), and is neither a public library (though we do own quite a few real books) nor academic institution (though we do occasionally read them and discuss the contents).

In short no one had access to our IP address as listed in the relevant time and date in the relevant Page History.

Recalling the master work of the late, great Stieg Larsson, and the principal there is always more to everything if you look hard enough I examined the revelvant Page History and discovered all of the offending edits are all listed as mobile. Now you can't know this, not for sure, but my domestic IT setup is very, very static, being assigned by a mainstream broadband provider and tied to a particular land line.

(Like most domestic WiFi setups, mine presents 'masked' IP addresses having no connection to what comes up if one types 'what's my IP' into a search engine while on-line.)

How can this be?

There are two possibilities: a mystery Wikipedia contributor somehow broke into my house, hacked my router, and edited your article then left without a trace (more alarming to an avid reader of thee Millenium Trilogy than the more routine sort who makes off with your widescreen TV) or - and I invested a ten whole seconds checking this out - the mystery hacker used IP SPOOFING (see article).

Not being an alumni, a relative of a student or a Worthing native - though I have lived part-time in the town for over a decade - I am only peripherally aware of the existence of what I now know to be St Andrew's High School but that's about it, as connections go, and certainly not enough to have any interest in reading the article, far less mucking about with it.

If it was my page - and if I was in the mood to play detective - I'd start by assuming a person with a puerile sense of humour and some kind of connection with the particular institution in question was likely to be on the young side, and not being daft said mischief-maker trawled for likely IP numbers to hide behind, then used a mobile device with an IP Masking App in the certain knowledge someone older and wiser would take the flak.

(This interpretation is supported by the fact at least one edit included a description of someone (possibly the culprit but more probably a false name or an innocent third party) as a 'St Andrew's notable' and self-styled 'prankster'.)

Perhaps those IT experts with time on their hands can somehow trace 'mobile edits' supposedly made by contributors using what are in fact 'static' IP addresses but I doubt the effort would yield any meaningful results: like attaching cloned number plates to a stolen car, the possibility of detection is minimal and the deception only has to last long enough to accomplish a bit of skulduggery then go onto the next false registration. Good luck progressing the above, if you choose to do so, but if you do please mention IP Spoofing (see article).

I mean, if it's in Wikipedia it has to be true, right?

No Wikipedia is not a reliable source:)
Seems a bit technical fot the average school vandal, but who knows? We have a mystery. Charles ( talk) 21:54, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

10 years ago today....

...you created your user page. Don't know about you but I'd say these last 10 years have gone by very quickly. I still remember 2007 very well (the year Lewis Hamilton made his debut in Formula 1) and I can't believe thats 10 years ago now. Congratulations for 10 years of service, Charles! Keep up the good work on Wikipedia. Class455 ( talk| stand clear of the doors!) 22:32, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. Yes, Wikipedia was in its infancy then and more like the wild west, with a public reputation for unreliability. A lot has changed. Charles ( talk) 08:48, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Charles, to add my good wishes and thanks for ten years of super editing. Best regards, David, David J Johnson ( talk) 09:57, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Merger discussion for East Wittering

An article that you have been involved in editing— East Wittering—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 15:56, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Use Of Capitals

Apologies for overuse of capitalisation and thankyou for pointing it out. It is one of my great failings, spelling, grammar and overdoing lists being others. When I start overusing it is an indication I need to take a break from Wikipedia which I have chosen to do with immediate effect for a while. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 03:02, 11 June 2017 (UTC) Despite *thinking* I had used the correct Capitalisation 'Culture and community' and *thinking* I had checked and rechecked and previewed that on my edit to Bognor Regis it seems I had again failed miserably and reread what I thought I had written and not what I actually wrote. Thankyou for the correction. I have fixed a couple of citations on the article in penance. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 07:40, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Butlins Skegness

Hello, I've reverted your removal of my inclusion of a link to Butlins Skegness Caravan Village on the Butlins Skegness page. I fail to see how adding a link to a Butlins property can be considered spam? BritishGuy ( talk) 20:28, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Second edit - I fail to see how you can define a link to their own website as spam? However, I will go away and study the guidelines in-place to understand this better. BritishGuy ( talk) 21:33, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


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