Brother kabulshahi also mohyal Brahmin Dynasty, janjua is a jatt clan, sanghar ali janjua helped Babar so that's why they become powerful because of mugals, actual Dynasty of kabulshahi was Mohyal brshmins please edit this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.206.179.63 ( talk • contribs) 04:23, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
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-- RegentsPark ( comment) 21:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
- Any further attempt to interpret scholarly works based on the authors caste will result in an indefinitel block. FYI. -- RegentsPark ( comment) 21:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
BengHistory ( talk) 22:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC) Dear Editor, not sure if the notice was meant for me. I have not tried to discredit any scholarly work based on the author's caste. I was editing the page on a caste community Baidya. There some fellow-editors were not accepting any of the source I was giving if the source happened be authored by any individual belonging to that very caste (viz. Baidya). I was just pointing to this very point as mentioned in that notice, i.e., you simply cannot put an 'unreliable' tag on any author just because he belonged to a particular caste (which they have been doing repetitively, as you can see in that page, in the talk section). I told them that according to the same logic, authors belonging to other castes can also be doubted to be holding some grudge. The matter of fact is, I think that source, if reliable, should be incorporated irrespective of the author's caste. But they are not allowing it and summarily rejecting any Baidya author's work as being motivated. They even went to that extent as to call certain editors 'caste warriors' and 'POV-pusher'. You can check it yourself. I request you to see it to it that the page is handled neutrally and no editor is given a free hand (by virtue of simply having more edits to his/her name) and be allowed to express his own opinion (even to the extent of using exclamatory marks, as you can see), and to reject sources based on the caste of an author. Thanks
Posts are signed at the end. Not at start. TrangaBellam ( talk) 14:55, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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-- Ekdalian ( talk) 13:26, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
BengHistory ( talk) 16:27, 29 July 2021 (UTC) You do not need to place threats on a regular basis.
Hello, I'm
Ekdalian. You have been adding or changing content in an article,
Vaid, but you didn't provide
reliable sources properly, and did not even bother to provide complete citation; providing url only is not accepted here, read
WP:CITE. Do not engage in
original research or
synthesis. Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Thanks.
Ekdalian (
talk) 13:38, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
- [( talk) 16:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC) 1) I am entitled to add contents in wikipedia, that is called editing. Do I need seek your permission from you before each of my edits? Do you own all of these articles? 2) I have given urls in each of the sources, will add more details within few days. 3) Specify the lines which you deem as original research or synthesis. I have quoted 4-5 lines, and all of them have been quoted verbatim. 4) I do not think you are entitled to term anything as 'unconstructive', please refrain from making such opinionated remarks and realize that your apparent high-position in wikipedia does not entitle you to pass such judgements. Thanks BengHistory ( talk) 16:08, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
The guideline says, Generally, you should not break up another editor's text by interleaving your own replies to individual points. This confuses who said what and obscures the original editor's intent. In your own posts, you may wish to use the
Thanks.
TrangaBellam (
talk) 19:55, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
{{
Talk quotation}} or {{
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You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement § BengHistory.
TrangaBellam (
talk) 21:03, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
The following sanction has been imposed on you:
You have been indefinitely topic banned from making any edits or comments related to castes or social groups, broadly construed. Please read WP:TBAN to see what "topic banned" means.
You have been sanctioned for the problems reported at WP:AE permalink.
This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator as authorised by the community's decision at Wikipedia:General sanctions/South Asian social groups, and the procedure described by the general sanctions guidelines. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions for that topic. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
You may appeal this sanction at the administrators' noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. Johnuniq ( talk) 10:53, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Brother kabulshahi also mohyal Brahmin Dynasty, janjua is a jatt clan, sanghar ali janjua helped Babar so that's why they become powerful because of mugals, actual Dynasty of kabulshahi was Mohyal brshmins please edit this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.206.179.63 ( talk • contribs) 04:23, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.
You have shown interest in India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.
For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.
TrangaBellam ( talk) 19:05, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
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| This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.
You have shown interest in South Asian social groups. Due to past disruption in this topic area, the community has enacted a more stringent set of rules. Any administrator may impose sanctions—such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks—on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic. For additional information, please see the guidance on these sanctions. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor. |
-- RegentsPark ( comment) 21:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
- Any further attempt to interpret scholarly works based on the authors caste will result in an indefinitel block. FYI. -- RegentsPark ( comment) 21:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
BengHistory ( talk) 22:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC) Dear Editor, not sure if the notice was meant for me. I have not tried to discredit any scholarly work based on the author's caste. I was editing the page on a caste community Baidya. There some fellow-editors were not accepting any of the source I was giving if the source happened be authored by any individual belonging to that very caste (viz. Baidya). I was just pointing to this very point as mentioned in that notice, i.e., you simply cannot put an 'unreliable' tag on any author just because he belonged to a particular caste (which they have been doing repetitively, as you can see in that page, in the talk section). I told them that according to the same logic, authors belonging to other castes can also be doubted to be holding some grudge. The matter of fact is, I think that source, if reliable, should be incorporated irrespective of the author's caste. But they are not allowing it and summarily rejecting any Baidya author's work as being motivated. They even went to that extent as to call certain editors 'caste warriors' and 'POV-pusher'. You can check it yourself. I request you to see it to it that the page is handled neutrally and no editor is given a free hand (by virtue of simply having more edits to his/her name) and be allowed to express his own opinion (even to the extent of using exclamatory marks, as you can see), and to reject sources based on the caste of an author. Thanks
Posts are signed at the end. Not at start. TrangaBellam ( talk) 14:55, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
|
|
The Wikipedia community has permitted
administrators to impose
discretionary sanctions on any editor who is active on any page about social groups, explicitly including caste associations and political parties, related to
India,
Pakistan,
Sri Lanka,
Bangladesh and
Nepal. Discretionary sanctions can be used against an editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the
purpose of Wikipedia, any expected
standards of behavior, or any
normal editorial process. If you engage in inappropriate behavior in this area, you may be placed under sanctions, which can include blocks, a revert limitation, or a topic ban. The discussion leading to the imposition of these sanctions can be read
here.
Please familiarise yourself with the information page at Wikipedia:General sanctions/South Asian social groups. |
-- Ekdalian ( talk) 13:26, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
BengHistory ( talk) 16:27, 29 July 2021 (UTC) You do not need to place threats on a regular basis.
Hello, I'm
Ekdalian. You have been adding or changing content in an article,
Vaid, but you didn't provide
reliable sources properly, and did not even bother to provide complete citation; providing url only is not accepted here, read
WP:CITE. Do not engage in
original research or
synthesis. Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Thanks.
Ekdalian (
talk) 13:38, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
- [( talk) 16:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC) 1) I am entitled to add contents in wikipedia, that is called editing. Do I need seek your permission from you before each of my edits? Do you own all of these articles? 2) I have given urls in each of the sources, will add more details within few days. 3) Specify the lines which you deem as original research or synthesis. I have quoted 4-5 lines, and all of them have been quoted verbatim. 4) I do not think you are entitled to term anything as 'unconstructive', please refrain from making such opinionated remarks and realize that your apparent high-position in wikipedia does not entitle you to pass such judgements. Thanks BengHistory ( talk) 16:08, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
The guideline says, Generally, you should not break up another editor's text by interleaving your own replies to individual points. This confuses who said what and obscures the original editor's intent. In your own posts, you may wish to use the
Thanks.
TrangaBellam (
talk) 19:55, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
{{
Talk quotation}} or {{
Talkquote}} templates to quote others' posts.
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement § BengHistory.
TrangaBellam (
talk) 21:03, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
The following sanction has been imposed on you:
You have been indefinitely topic banned from making any edits or comments related to castes or social groups, broadly construed. Please read WP:TBAN to see what "topic banned" means.
You have been sanctioned for the problems reported at WP:AE permalink.
This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator as authorised by the community's decision at Wikipedia:General sanctions/South Asian social groups, and the procedure described by the general sanctions guidelines. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions for that topic. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
You may appeal this sanction at the administrators' noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. Johnuniq ( talk) 10:53, 9 August 2021 (UTC)