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Peaceray ( talk) 17:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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— Nythar ( 💬- 🍀) 07:41, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
You have been blocked from the article Junkyard tornado for a month for persistent tendentious and aggressive pro-fringe editing. Note that you can still edit the article's talkpage (as well as all the rest of Wikipedia), although I will recommend you to avoid attacks such as linking to WP:JERK, or you may be in more trouble.
I see on the talkpage that you're under the mistaken impression that it would be appropriate to "request arbitration" about this kind of thing. No, the arbitration committee consists of volunteers just like you and me, and it's not possible for them to take on every disagreement, especially not concerning things they have already made a determination about. See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience. Though of course you are free to try. Bishonen | tålk 08:13, 6 May 2023 (UTC).
- 08:23, 6 May 2023 diff hist +176 Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience/Workshop →Requesting confirmation of expertise from ScienceApologist Tag: Reverted
- 07:11, 6 May 2023 diff hist +144 Talk:Psychokinesis →Requested move 5 May 2023: Reply current Tag: Reply
- 07:08, 6 May 2023 diff hist +139 Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard →Junkyard tornado: Reply Tag: Reply
- 07:00, 6 May 2023 diff hist +33 Bob Lazar replace 'alien' with 'extraterrestrial' current
- 06:56, 6 May 2023 diff hist −84 Bob Lazar Cleanup first half
- 06:36, 6 May 2023 diff hist +243 Talk:Börringe Priory →Castle/Palace: Reply Tag: Reply
- 06:27, 6 May 2023 diff hist +254 Wikipedia:Third opinion →Active disagreements current
- 06:22, 6 May 2023 diff hist +145 Talk:Junkyard tornado →Terminology: Reply Tag: Reply
- 06:19, 6 May 2023 diff hist −37 Junkyard tornado No edit summary Tag: Reverted
- 06:15, 6 May 2023 diff hist +7 Junkyard tornado No edit summary Tag: Reverted
- 06:14, 6 May 2023 diff hist +14 Junkyard tornado No edit summary Tag: Reverted
- 06:09, 6 May 2023 diff hist +19 Draft:Anti-vaccine activism No edit summary current
- 06:05, 6 May 2023 diff hist −19 Junkyard tornado Undid revision 1153413218 by Hob Gadling (talk) Tags: Undo Reverted
- 06:03, 6 May 2023 diff hist +11 User talk:Hob Gadling No edit summary Tag: Reverted
- 06:02, 6 May 2023 diff hist +181 Talk:Junkyard tornado →Terminology: Reply Tag: Reply
- 05:09, 6 May 2023 diff hist +167 Talk:Quackery →Rename article current
- 05:03, 6 May 2023 diff hist +401 Talk:Quackery →Rename article: new section Tag: New topic
- 5 May 2023
- 22:35, 5 May 2023 diff hist +231 Draft:Anti-vaccine activism No edit summary
- 22:25, 5 May 2023 diff hist +27 Draft talk:Anti-vaccine activism →MMR vaccine
- 22:24, 5 May 2023 diff hist +326 N Draft talk:Anti-vaccine activism →MMR vaccine: new section Tag: New topic
- 21:09, 5 May 2023 diff hist +427 Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard →Proposal to split Anti-vaccine activism from Vaccine hesitancy: Reply Tag: Reply
- 19:23, 5 May 2023 diff hist −17 Ouija →In popular culture: Tidy language current
- 19:20, 5 May 2023 diff hist −194 Ouija →In popular culture: Conciseness
- 19:17, 5 May 2023 diff hist +404 Ouija Undid revision 1153186566 by Hob Gadling (talk) - restoring reference to relevant comedy-horror film Tag: Undo
- 16:30, 5 May 2023 diff hist +189 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muhammed Majeed →Muhammed Majeed: Reply Tag: Reply
- 15:29, 5 May 2023 diff hist +310 Talk:Junkyard tornado →Terminology: Reply Tag: Reply
- 4 May 2023
- 22:19, 4 May 2023 diff hist −7 Junkyard tornado Undid revision 1153215576 by 50.214.130.225 (talk) Anonymous user appears to be editing in bad faith Tag: Undo
- 20:58, 4 May 2023 diff hist +626 Talk:Junkyard tornado →Terminology: new section Tag: New topic
- 19:40, 4 May 2023 diff hist −7 Junkyard tornado Undo revision 15:19, 4 May 2023 Tag: Reverted
- 14:10, 4 May 2023 diff hist +12 Junkyard tornado Neutralise
- 14:03, 4 May 2023 diff hist −139 Junkyard tornado →History and reception: Tidy up
- 3 May 2023
- 23:31, 3 May 2023 diff hist +248 Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard →Junkyard tornado: Reply Tag: Reply
- 23:30, 3 May 2023 diff hist −458 m Junkyard tornado →Reception: Debias Tag: Reverted
You think WP:JERK is "Wikipedia policy", that you can "cite" as such? Did you look at it? It's not even a Wikipedia page. Just a soft redirect to a Meta-Wiki page. Really. Is it any use offering you a link to Wikipedia:Policy (compare my post above about offering you links that you obviously don't follow), where you can read what a policy is, and how Wikipedia policies are created, which is a complex and lengthy process? It's not just a matter of one person writing a page reflecting their own opinion, as "Don't be a jerk" on Meta is. If you're telling us you didn't realize it's offensive to link to it, as aimed at a particular individual, then I'm sorry, I don't believe you. Bishonen | tålk 11:46, 6 May 2023 (UTC).
In the second, I'm citing a wikipedia policy.) Now, if you can wait a couple of minutes, I'm trying to post something more substantive, but keep getting edit conflicts. Girth Summit (blether) 12:01, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
15:11, 30 April 2023 diff hist −725 Ouija WP:FRINGE: we do not need one more crackpot's opinion, and we do not need saying in Wikipedia voice that some woo-woo movie is based on "real events" thank
15:27, 19 March 2023 diff hist 0 Rupert Sheldrake morphic resonance is encompassed by newage. Going directly from ho-hum stuff he is not well-known for to crackpottery hurts the text flow thank
AtFirstLight ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
The imposed ban was rash, and doesn't take into account full circumstances. AtFirstLight ( talk) 14:26, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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You are blocked, not banned. I don't think it was rash. If there are circumstances that the blocking admin did not consider, please tell about them. 331dot ( talk) 14:40, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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Peaceray ( talk) 17:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Hello! AtFirstLight,
you are invited to the
Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us!
Pharaoh of the Wizards (
talk) 23:17, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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You have recently edited a page related to pseudoscience and fringe science, a topic designated as contentious. This standard message is designed as an introduction to contentious topics and does not imply that there are any issues with your editing.
A special set of rules applies to certain topic areas, which are referred to as contentious topics. These are specially-designated topics that tend to attract more persistent disruptive editing than the rest of the project and have been designated as contentious topics by the Arbitration Committee. When editing a contentious topic, Wikipedia’s norms and policies are more strictly enforced, and Wikipedia administrators have special powers in order to reduce disruption to the project.
Within contentious topics, editors should edit carefully and constructively, refrain from disrupting the encyclopedia, and:
Editors are advised to err on the side of caution if unsure whether making a particular edit is consistent with these expectations. If you have any questions about contentious topics procedures you may ask them at the arbitration clerks' noticeboard or you may learn more about this contentious topic here. You may also choose to note which contentious topics you know about by using the {{ Ctopics/aware}} template.
— Nythar ( 💬- 🍀) 07:41, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
You have been blocked from the article Junkyard tornado for a month for persistent tendentious and aggressive pro-fringe editing. Note that you can still edit the article's talkpage (as well as all the rest of Wikipedia), although I will recommend you to avoid attacks such as linking to WP:JERK, or you may be in more trouble.
I see on the talkpage that you're under the mistaken impression that it would be appropriate to "request arbitration" about this kind of thing. No, the arbitration committee consists of volunteers just like you and me, and it's not possible for them to take on every disagreement, especially not concerning things they have already made a determination about. See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience. Though of course you are free to try. Bishonen | tålk 08:13, 6 May 2023 (UTC).
- 08:23, 6 May 2023 diff hist +176 Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience/Workshop →Requesting confirmation of expertise from ScienceApologist Tag: Reverted
- 07:11, 6 May 2023 diff hist +144 Talk:Psychokinesis →Requested move 5 May 2023: Reply current Tag: Reply
- 07:08, 6 May 2023 diff hist +139 Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard →Junkyard tornado: Reply Tag: Reply
- 07:00, 6 May 2023 diff hist +33 Bob Lazar replace 'alien' with 'extraterrestrial' current
- 06:56, 6 May 2023 diff hist −84 Bob Lazar Cleanup first half
- 06:36, 6 May 2023 diff hist +243 Talk:Börringe Priory →Castle/Palace: Reply Tag: Reply
- 06:27, 6 May 2023 diff hist +254 Wikipedia:Third opinion →Active disagreements current
- 06:22, 6 May 2023 diff hist +145 Talk:Junkyard tornado →Terminology: Reply Tag: Reply
- 06:19, 6 May 2023 diff hist −37 Junkyard tornado No edit summary Tag: Reverted
- 06:15, 6 May 2023 diff hist +7 Junkyard tornado No edit summary Tag: Reverted
- 06:14, 6 May 2023 diff hist +14 Junkyard tornado No edit summary Tag: Reverted
- 06:09, 6 May 2023 diff hist +19 Draft:Anti-vaccine activism No edit summary current
- 06:05, 6 May 2023 diff hist −19 Junkyard tornado Undid revision 1153413218 by Hob Gadling (talk) Tags: Undo Reverted
- 06:03, 6 May 2023 diff hist +11 User talk:Hob Gadling No edit summary Tag: Reverted
- 06:02, 6 May 2023 diff hist +181 Talk:Junkyard tornado →Terminology: Reply Tag: Reply
- 05:09, 6 May 2023 diff hist +167 Talk:Quackery →Rename article current
- 05:03, 6 May 2023 diff hist +401 Talk:Quackery →Rename article: new section Tag: New topic
- 5 May 2023
- 22:35, 5 May 2023 diff hist +231 Draft:Anti-vaccine activism No edit summary
- 22:25, 5 May 2023 diff hist +27 Draft talk:Anti-vaccine activism →MMR vaccine
- 22:24, 5 May 2023 diff hist +326 N Draft talk:Anti-vaccine activism →MMR vaccine: new section Tag: New topic
- 21:09, 5 May 2023 diff hist +427 Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard →Proposal to split Anti-vaccine activism from Vaccine hesitancy: Reply Tag: Reply
- 19:23, 5 May 2023 diff hist −17 Ouija →In popular culture: Tidy language current
- 19:20, 5 May 2023 diff hist −194 Ouija →In popular culture: Conciseness
- 19:17, 5 May 2023 diff hist +404 Ouija Undid revision 1153186566 by Hob Gadling (talk) - restoring reference to relevant comedy-horror film Tag: Undo
- 16:30, 5 May 2023 diff hist +189 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muhammed Majeed →Muhammed Majeed: Reply Tag: Reply
- 15:29, 5 May 2023 diff hist +310 Talk:Junkyard tornado →Terminology: Reply Tag: Reply
- 4 May 2023
- 22:19, 4 May 2023 diff hist −7 Junkyard tornado Undid revision 1153215576 by 50.214.130.225 (talk) Anonymous user appears to be editing in bad faith Tag: Undo
- 20:58, 4 May 2023 diff hist +626 Talk:Junkyard tornado →Terminology: new section Tag: New topic
- 19:40, 4 May 2023 diff hist −7 Junkyard tornado Undo revision 15:19, 4 May 2023 Tag: Reverted
- 14:10, 4 May 2023 diff hist +12 Junkyard tornado Neutralise
- 14:03, 4 May 2023 diff hist −139 Junkyard tornado →History and reception: Tidy up
- 3 May 2023
- 23:31, 3 May 2023 diff hist +248 Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard →Junkyard tornado: Reply Tag: Reply
- 23:30, 3 May 2023 diff hist −458 m Junkyard tornado →Reception: Debias Tag: Reverted
You think WP:JERK is "Wikipedia policy", that you can "cite" as such? Did you look at it? It's not even a Wikipedia page. Just a soft redirect to a Meta-Wiki page. Really. Is it any use offering you a link to Wikipedia:Policy (compare my post above about offering you links that you obviously don't follow), where you can read what a policy is, and how Wikipedia policies are created, which is a complex and lengthy process? It's not just a matter of one person writing a page reflecting their own opinion, as "Don't be a jerk" on Meta is. If you're telling us you didn't realize it's offensive to link to it, as aimed at a particular individual, then I'm sorry, I don't believe you. Bishonen | tålk 11:46, 6 May 2023 (UTC).
In the second, I'm citing a wikipedia policy.) Now, if you can wait a couple of minutes, I'm trying to post something more substantive, but keep getting edit conflicts. Girth Summit (blether) 12:01, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
15:11, 30 April 2023 diff hist −725 Ouija WP:FRINGE: we do not need one more crackpot's opinion, and we do not need saying in Wikipedia voice that some woo-woo movie is based on "real events" thank
15:27, 19 March 2023 diff hist 0 Rupert Sheldrake morphic resonance is encompassed by newage. Going directly from ho-hum stuff he is not well-known for to crackpottery hurts the text flow thank
AtFirstLight ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
The imposed ban was rash, and doesn't take into account full circumstances. AtFirstLight ( talk) 14:26, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You are blocked, not banned. I don't think it was rash. If there are circumstances that the blocking admin did not consider, please tell about them. 331dot ( talk) 14:40, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.