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The prophet pages are being forsaken while they are hugely important; your help would be wonderful! I edited Elijah and Islamic view of Solomon and I think Islamic view of Abraham is finally getting somewhere. Please help!-- Imadjafar( talk) 18:00, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Saffron terror is not religious in the slightest. Actually, that's what those of us working on the article have been trying so carefully to keep away from, even adding a line at the top of Category:Hindu terrorism to explain that it is not for religious terrorism articles. Putting it in that spot on Template:Terrorism is incorrect and promoting a falsehood. Saffron/Hindu terrorism has absolutely nothing to do with Hinduism, it has to do with Hindutva, which is political nationalism. I am going to revert you on the template now. Silver seren C 08:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
I like this , i see your also trying to get support for it. At least your taking me seriously as a Wikipedian (i am happy at how much you think about me). i have only been involved with content disagreements with you, hardly any violation of wiki policies that require a ban. Its also ironic that you accuse me of certain policy violations-- Misconceptions2 ( talk) 21:53, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Well spotted on the previous SPI. I'm glad I'm not going mad with paranoia! I have opened a new SPI for the above users. I've not done this before - hopefully I have provided enough evidence. You are welcome to comment/provide additional evidence.-- obi2canibe talk contr 19:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Q: Can't figure out what's going on on the Islam page. Would you please put something on the talk page to help me understand why you think the point about Islam not being named for a person [or deity?] is important? I have to say I came to your user page to see if you seem reasonable -- and you do. So why not post your rationale?
N: On your user page I see "I continually point out to the versus that they ignore, or don't understand . . ." -- do you want "point out the verses" rather than "versus" there? Sorry if I'm missing the point. -- Thanks -- Jo3sampl ( talk) 15:10, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
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RE: Talk:Muammar Gaddafi Just wanted to remind you of the policy on other people's article-talk page posts Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#Others.27 comments.
I have un-stricken the text and archived it as per guidelines to Talk:Muammar_Gaddafi/Archive_4#Removed_from_talk_page_23-07-201. I do not assume that you want your comments moved, but have copied them there as well so that you may delete your own comment knowing it is already archived if you so wish :¬) Chaosdruid ( talk) 16:20, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Dear Adam,
I modified the santur page so that it is representative of the different santurs out there. I included citations and added a talk to the discussion page. This is not emotionally and politically motivated since I am not Babylonian and Babylon doesn't exist anymore. It's just that the real history of this instrument wasn't on this important page.
Thanks! Marc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.57.65.117 ( talk) 16:48, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Drnhawkins/Moses and the Israelites served Amenemhet III during the 12th dynasty of Egypt and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Drnhawkins/An alternative view of the 3rd dynasty of Egypt for some context. Dougweller ( talk) 08:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
I didn't remove sourced material, I removed what wasn't in the source provided. Big difference. There was no mention in this particular source of rebel forces having success in securing battlegrounds of key cities except that they took a few checkpoints in no-mans land between Zliten and Misrata. And I didn't violate the OR rule because my sentence was properly sourced with what the admiral said, that the campaign is at a stalemate. I was offended by your accusation considering I am currently fighting a number of editors who are trying to remove from the article sourced information and phrase things to their own POV because I am trying to keep up the neutrality of Wikipedia. EkoGraf ( talk) 15:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Not my conclusion, I removed the part that wasn't even in the source. Again, there was no mention in this particular source of rebels having secured battlegrounds of key cities, what the source did say was that they took only a few checkpoints in no-mans-land. And I wasn't pushing my personal point of view by adding the new source. I added the new source because it was an updated (three weeks after the previous source) point of view of the top American military officer. If you have a problem with his point of view that's a whole 'nother matter. In any case, Geromasis had the right idea by totaly removing that paragraph from the lead since opinions of that kind should be mentioned in that kind of article but not in the lead. EkoGraf ( talk) 18:26, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Jeez, take it easy, we're not in a life and death strugle here. :D Hmmm, actualy they haven't taken any cities for two and a half months now since Misrata back in May, so by all accounts that reporter is grossly missinformed. :) They have only taken villages and small towns in the mountains of no more than a few thousand people. Wouldn't call that cities. As far as key goes. They haven't taken the key town of Gharyan (gateway to Tripoli from the south), they haven't taken the key town of Zawiyah (gateway to Tripoli from the west), they haven't taken the key town of Zliten (gateway to Tripoli from the east), they haven't taken the most importantly key town of Brega (gateway to west from east Libya). There is a reason the word stalemate is used so much. In any case lets leave it be as it is and cool our heads for a while. Ok mate? See ya! ;) EkoGraf ( talk) 00:59, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Hes a troll anyway , Ignore him. He just wants to stir up trouble. Goldblooded ( talk) 12:13, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
In regard to your recent ediit here the material from a book used in Talk:Jihad#Rules of war according to Islamic law in disharmony with BBC's strict rules is not being distorted by original research. I have already answered you objection a long time ago, and you should at least respond on the talk page before you revert edits, thanks. Davidelah ( talk) 18:42, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
So what did you mean by WP:OR in your summary? Davidelah ( talk) 09:18, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
It is a good step to raise it in MOS:ISLAM.-- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider t c s 17:19, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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If you have issues reading and or understanding text i dont think you should be editing! Just a word of advice! 188.72.250.92 ( talk) 23:52, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
I went back and read your first comment in the MfD, and in many ways I agree with you. I don't think the page is particularly stellar, my main 'beef' is just whether its ok for a person to express in a fairly private way, the things that they feel should be improved. I don't want censorship of critical and thoughtful speech in Wikipedia, mostly because I see this as a useful thing for some people to work out their thoughts and feelings on an issue before they take it anywhere more public.
I think in a lot of cases, just thinking stuff through by oneself is sufficient to get past it, and if they feel they need outside help, they can go do that, or if an admin sees these complaints, they can thoughfully respond and try to bridge that gap and make the person feel welcome.
My impression is that censorship of things done in the private userspace, although they are not hidden, it is clear that they aren't for public use, and policy gives us more latitude. I think if admin Ed had actually just had a friendly chat with Surturz after he saw this page, he could have at least got him to think about things more, and maybe a bit later Surturz would have deleted the page as unnecessary. Instead its a big hullabaloo because an admin got zealous about squashing it. I'm really just in favor of admins using the 'tools' that *all* editors have more often, which is communication and the interpersonal touch, rather than so quickly resorting to the 'tools' that only admins have. Leadership by example more than leadership by force. -- Avanu ( talk) 16:39, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the revert on my talk page. =) -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 19:04, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
You had asked about the specifics of the canvassing, and as far as I'm aware this is the only particular case where he asked an individual editor to participate. My comment was largely made to discourage any further individual "invitations". To maintain balance in the conversation, I also notified one other editor, WMC; any other participants are likely to come from the regular talkpage notices. Thanks for taking time to comment on the new Category issue. Doc Tropics 20:09, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
You commented concerning my edit of a page. As you know I am new and just finding my feet my article which I have extensively corrected is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_sexual_jurisprudence and some others which you can check out from my talk page. First I went to twinkle page as it was what I thought was the area to respond in as the page of the article said it needed major clean up by an expert and directed me there. I felt I could assist. If I am on wrong pages or doing things wrong I will happily mend my ways. As for citations please help me as to how to do it as most of the knowledge is in my head and pretty basic for any one who is knowledgeable about Islam but to find e.g. a particular Hadith number or book is very time consuming. In fact the references already in the article contain many of them already, but the past author did not have sufficient understanding to convey matters in a more precise way as I have tried to do. All advise and suggestions will be gladly received and acted upon. Mhakcm ( talk) 20:53, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be unnecessary duplication of subject matter some unnecessary and others better placed in one combined article e.g. Islamic Jurisprudence - Marital. Rather than separate ones on Marital another on Sexual another on sexual technique another on marriage in Islam etc.. Let me know who or how to convey this to others so a succinct encyclopaedic entry can be achieved. Mhakcm ( talk) 21:01, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
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Why has the civil war section been totally removed from the Sri Lanka page ?( Arun1paladin ( talk) 10:30, 21 September 2011 (UTC))
Are you not monitoring the Sri Lanka page anymore? Cossde and Astronomyinertia are incessantly removing the Civil war section in that page. Astronomyinertia removed the civil war section and merged things about it in Post independence Sri Lankan section complaining about the style in which the civil war section.But when I included the civil war section again with the things mentioned by Astronomyinertia , Astronomyinertia and [User:Cossde|Cossde]]don't agree with that.They just don't want anyone to know about the ethnic conflict and civil war in SL( Arun1paladin ( talk) 19:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC))
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Reference to the comment User:Steven Zhang, " For what it's worth, undue weight is something that has to be considered with a few points in mind, the impact it had, how long it lasted, how significant an event it was in the subjects history. Duration of time is not the only deciding factor, however. The fact that the civil war lasted only 30 years should not be the sole deciding factor." and since the the editors who voted "Disagree" after RFC never turned back for discussion with who voted "Agree" even after Two Months, I revert back to the non-involved editor User:Adamrce's last version on Sri Lanka page on "Civil War" section. HudsonBreeze ( talk) 04:37, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
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The prophet pages are being forsaken while they are hugely important; your help would be wonderful! I edited Elijah and Islamic view of Solomon and I think Islamic view of Abraham is finally getting somewhere. Please help!-- Imadjafar( talk) 18:00, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Saffron terror is not religious in the slightest. Actually, that's what those of us working on the article have been trying so carefully to keep away from, even adding a line at the top of Category:Hindu terrorism to explain that it is not for religious terrorism articles. Putting it in that spot on Template:Terrorism is incorrect and promoting a falsehood. Saffron/Hindu terrorism has absolutely nothing to do with Hinduism, it has to do with Hindutva, which is political nationalism. I am going to revert you on the template now. Silver seren C 08:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
I like this , i see your also trying to get support for it. At least your taking me seriously as a Wikipedian (i am happy at how much you think about me). i have only been involved with content disagreements with you, hardly any violation of wiki policies that require a ban. Its also ironic that you accuse me of certain policy violations-- Misconceptions2 ( talk) 21:53, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Well spotted on the previous SPI. I'm glad I'm not going mad with paranoia! I have opened a new SPI for the above users. I've not done this before - hopefully I have provided enough evidence. You are welcome to comment/provide additional evidence.-- obi2canibe talk contr 19:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Q: Can't figure out what's going on on the Islam page. Would you please put something on the talk page to help me understand why you think the point about Islam not being named for a person [or deity?] is important? I have to say I came to your user page to see if you seem reasonable -- and you do. So why not post your rationale?
N: On your user page I see "I continually point out to the versus that they ignore, or don't understand . . ." -- do you want "point out the verses" rather than "versus" there? Sorry if I'm missing the point. -- Thanks -- Jo3sampl ( talk) 15:10, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
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RE: Talk:Muammar Gaddafi Just wanted to remind you of the policy on other people's article-talk page posts Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#Others.27 comments.
I have un-stricken the text and archived it as per guidelines to Talk:Muammar_Gaddafi/Archive_4#Removed_from_talk_page_23-07-201. I do not assume that you want your comments moved, but have copied them there as well so that you may delete your own comment knowing it is already archived if you so wish :¬) Chaosdruid ( talk) 16:20, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Dear Adam,
I modified the santur page so that it is representative of the different santurs out there. I included citations and added a talk to the discussion page. This is not emotionally and politically motivated since I am not Babylonian and Babylon doesn't exist anymore. It's just that the real history of this instrument wasn't on this important page.
Thanks! Marc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.57.65.117 ( talk) 16:48, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Drnhawkins/Moses and the Israelites served Amenemhet III during the 12th dynasty of Egypt and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Drnhawkins/An alternative view of the 3rd dynasty of Egypt for some context. Dougweller ( talk) 08:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
I didn't remove sourced material, I removed what wasn't in the source provided. Big difference. There was no mention in this particular source of rebel forces having success in securing battlegrounds of key cities except that they took a few checkpoints in no-mans land between Zliten and Misrata. And I didn't violate the OR rule because my sentence was properly sourced with what the admiral said, that the campaign is at a stalemate. I was offended by your accusation considering I am currently fighting a number of editors who are trying to remove from the article sourced information and phrase things to their own POV because I am trying to keep up the neutrality of Wikipedia. EkoGraf ( talk) 15:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Not my conclusion, I removed the part that wasn't even in the source. Again, there was no mention in this particular source of rebels having secured battlegrounds of key cities, what the source did say was that they took only a few checkpoints in no-mans-land. And I wasn't pushing my personal point of view by adding the new source. I added the new source because it was an updated (three weeks after the previous source) point of view of the top American military officer. If you have a problem with his point of view that's a whole 'nother matter. In any case, Geromasis had the right idea by totaly removing that paragraph from the lead since opinions of that kind should be mentioned in that kind of article but not in the lead. EkoGraf ( talk) 18:26, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Jeez, take it easy, we're not in a life and death strugle here. :D Hmmm, actualy they haven't taken any cities for two and a half months now since Misrata back in May, so by all accounts that reporter is grossly missinformed. :) They have only taken villages and small towns in the mountains of no more than a few thousand people. Wouldn't call that cities. As far as key goes. They haven't taken the key town of Gharyan (gateway to Tripoli from the south), they haven't taken the key town of Zawiyah (gateway to Tripoli from the west), they haven't taken the key town of Zliten (gateway to Tripoli from the east), they haven't taken the most importantly key town of Brega (gateway to west from east Libya). There is a reason the word stalemate is used so much. In any case lets leave it be as it is and cool our heads for a while. Ok mate? See ya! ;) EkoGraf ( talk) 00:59, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Hes a troll anyway , Ignore him. He just wants to stir up trouble. Goldblooded ( talk) 12:13, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
In regard to your recent ediit here the material from a book used in Talk:Jihad#Rules of war according to Islamic law in disharmony with BBC's strict rules is not being distorted by original research. I have already answered you objection a long time ago, and you should at least respond on the talk page before you revert edits, thanks. Davidelah ( talk) 18:42, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
So what did you mean by WP:OR in your summary? Davidelah ( talk) 09:18, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
It is a good step to raise it in MOS:ISLAM.-- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider t c s 17:19, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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I went back and read your first comment in the MfD, and in many ways I agree with you. I don't think the page is particularly stellar, my main 'beef' is just whether its ok for a person to express in a fairly private way, the things that they feel should be improved. I don't want censorship of critical and thoughtful speech in Wikipedia, mostly because I see this as a useful thing for some people to work out their thoughts and feelings on an issue before they take it anywhere more public.
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Thanks for the revert on my talk page. =) -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 19:04, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
You had asked about the specifics of the canvassing, and as far as I'm aware this is the only particular case where he asked an individual editor to participate. My comment was largely made to discourage any further individual "invitations". To maintain balance in the conversation, I also notified one other editor, WMC; any other participants are likely to come from the regular talkpage notices. Thanks for taking time to comment on the new Category issue. Doc Tropics 20:09, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
You commented concerning my edit of a page. As you know I am new and just finding my feet my article which I have extensively corrected is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_sexual_jurisprudence and some others which you can check out from my talk page. First I went to twinkle page as it was what I thought was the area to respond in as the page of the article said it needed major clean up by an expert and directed me there. I felt I could assist. If I am on wrong pages or doing things wrong I will happily mend my ways. As for citations please help me as to how to do it as most of the knowledge is in my head and pretty basic for any one who is knowledgeable about Islam but to find e.g. a particular Hadith number or book is very time consuming. In fact the references already in the article contain many of them already, but the past author did not have sufficient understanding to convey matters in a more precise way as I have tried to do. All advise and suggestions will be gladly received and acted upon. Mhakcm ( talk) 20:53, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be unnecessary duplication of subject matter some unnecessary and others better placed in one combined article e.g. Islamic Jurisprudence - Marital. Rather than separate ones on Marital another on Sexual another on sexual technique another on marriage in Islam etc.. Let me know who or how to convey this to others so a succinct encyclopaedic entry can be achieved. Mhakcm ( talk) 21:01, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
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Are you not monitoring the Sri Lanka page anymore? Cossde and Astronomyinertia are incessantly removing the Civil war section in that page. Astronomyinertia removed the civil war section and merged things about it in Post independence Sri Lankan section complaining about the style in which the civil war section.But when I included the civil war section again with the things mentioned by Astronomyinertia , Astronomyinertia and [User:Cossde|Cossde]]don't agree with that.They just don't want anyone to know about the ethnic conflict and civil war in SL( Arun1paladin ( talk) 19:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC))
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