Worldedixor, do you realize that you have edited PBS's page 45 times in a space of six hours? (Posting your so often stated "I am out of here" as early as the second of the 45 edits — perhaps your password was hacked and somebody else did the other 43?) And yet you state in (approximately) the tenth that "I have shown a lot of restraint today". If nothing else, I presume you realize each of those edits gives the user an alert?
Anyway. Remember when I told you "However, taking your anger with P123ct1 to other arenas, such as ANI, and hounding them there isn't acceptable either, so I suppose I'd better give you a more all-encompassing warning this time. Don't attack P123ct1 or anybody else in any way, or hound them with petty complaints, or you may be blocked"
?
[1] Bold in my original. I didn't actually have to read longer than your second post on PBS's page to see that you have started up again with a vengeance. I clicked on some of your diffs purporting to show such things as P123ct1 having "called you names" (
this is that particular diff), and they're ridiculous. I have blocked you indefinitely for persistent personal attacks and harassment. It seems to me you have been given many chances to desist and back off, but this is the last straw; I'm not going to tolerate it any longer. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may
appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
, but you should read the
guide to appealing blocks first.
Bishonen |
talk 14:48, 5 November 2014 (UTC).
QUESTIONS TO THE BLOCKING ADMIN so that I can understand what I was blocked for indefinitely:
I had a few days to calm down and reflect on this block. I feel that this indefinite block was a heavy-handed punishment considering that other editors engaging in open edit wars and multiple policy violations have received much lesser block periods or none.
QUESTION 1: REMOVED!
QUESTION 2: REMOVED!
For easy refernce, I will link to [2]
QUESTION 3: REMOVED!
QUESTION 4: I am an editor with exceptional knowledge and my history of "article" edits are well sourced and consistent with policy. Are you aware of my good contributions to Wikipedia? and do you have anything encouraging to say about my always sourced "article" contributions?. If you need examples, ask.
QUESTION 5: Are you aware that many of my highly insightful and well sourced edits have been repeatedly confronted and reverted? Are you aware that I did not even do a 1RR to avoid a WP:EW? If you need examples, ask.
QUESTION 6: REMOVED!
QUESTION 7: REMOVED!
QUESTION 8: REMOVED!
QUESTION 9: REMOVED!
Worldedixor ( talk) 04:22, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Another form of trolling can occur in the form of continual questions with obvious or easy-to-find answers. Of course, sometimes what is obvious to one person is obscure to another. If a user seems to be asking stupid questions, try to give them the resources to help themselves. You can also send them to the help desk. If they persist, politely explain that you would love to help but you are rather busy.. OK, I would love to help but I'm rather busy. Unless you have something new and meaningful to say to me, I will not respond further on this page. Bishonen | talk 17:08, 10 November 2014 (UTC).
Worldedixor ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
As outlined above
Decline reason:
Worldedixor, I'm declining your unblock request, because your method of presentation is so chaotic, I have serious concerns that you are competent enough to edit Wikipedia. I suggest you write a new unblock request which coherently explains why you should be unblocked. PhilKnight ( talk) 23:40, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Worldedixor, you totally ignored my last paragraph! Brief means an absolute maximum of 300 words but aim for 200 or less. For example Bishonen blocking message was about 280 words and that included some stuff cut and pasted from elsewhere that has to be in a message informing a user of a block. I fully endorse what PhilKnight wrote (in 42 words) and reluctantly given your postings here and elsewhere draw the same conclusion as he does.
You do not seem to realise why you were blocked, and unless you can convince an administrator that you understand those reasons your requests to be unblocked will be declined. Read very carefully what Bishonen, Dougweller, PhilKnight have written, because their comments are designed to help you not hinder you be an effective and collegiate editor.
As you seem to be so far away from grasping the points they are making, I suggest you sped a few weeks looking at other unblock requests ( Category:Requests for unblock), consider if you would unblock a user given what (s)he has done and what (s)he say in their unblock requests, and see what administrators decide to do. Also re-read WP:guide to appealing blocks, and construct your request based what you have learnt within its framework, when you make another appeal against your block. (this comment up to the bracket was 216 words long). -- PBS ( talk) 10:59, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Worldedixor I think that you need to pull yourself together and face up to home truths which, by definition, are not truths away from home but truths that apply solely and particularly to your own situation. Forget other people's faults, existent or not, as these are not at issue in your current situation. I am glad that you say: "What you advised helps me see where I may have been wrong." There is one word in there that may indicate where things have not fully connected to the extent that they could.
You have previously been referred to Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks. Which most relevantly states:
You, as a blocked editor, are responsible for convincing administrators:
To this point administrators have unanimously and, in the overall picture, I think fairly taken the view that the block was necessary for the purpose of preventing damage or disruption. I would suggest that, if you choose, you make the case as to why you think that the block is no longer necessary.
Be specific. As you know, there have been times when I have made confessions even when I haven't had to. Also, when I was taken to AN/I, even though WP:SOAPBOX hadn't even been mentioned this, being the thing that was playing on my mind. I freely confessed this at a time when I thought the politics were done and have endeavoured to follow this principle since.
In the RfC/U you were accused of:
"Article talk page abuses"
This section contains an extensive (1650 word but I think relevant) text related both to the clarification of actual wrong doing by Worldedixor and references to the overstatement of various cases. The second part was not planned and, while I do not want to detract from relevant areas of cited wrongdoing, I also think it relevant to notify reviewers and interested parties of questionable content within.
My conjecture is that this "RfC/U" was not so much written as a request for comment but as a non-neutral statement of condemnation coupled with request for agreement and that, in totality, many of the interventions presented within do not demonstrate best practice in relation to Wikipedia's policies regarding dispute resolution. In addition to statements within that I think were misrepresentative I further question the selective use of external type links that focus on individual edits while no direct reference to context is provided. Other links in the RfC/U, if followed through to get to the actual edits, I believe demonstrate provocative comment particularly by Technophant, the primary author of the RfC/U. I further propose that the related talk page discussion of the RfC/U ended in a way which I consider indicative of the characteristic unaccountability and evasiveness of the primary author. I lastly propose that any later remarks by Worldedixor, while not being excused, should be rightly considered within the context here mentioned. Gregkaye ✍♪ 10:33, 12 November 2014 (UTC) |
---|
I will add comment in italics but it is up to you to indicate why these may no longer apply or what you will do to counteract any tendency. (I would further encourage independent contributors to add further comment to my comments as relevant)
I honestly don't personally see major fault here on either side. You presented issue related to the acceptability of a sourced Arabic text whose quoted content currently gets 1,080 hits. You were given a dismissive response (but which may better be understood in context) and independent editor quoted: ' WP:NOENG: "Citations to non-English sources are allowed. However, because this is the English-language Wikipedia, English-language sources are preferred over non-English ones, whenever English sources of equal quality and relevance are available."' You declared willingness to follow WP:AGF. The final comment eventually got round to clarifying a problem that: This particular situation was one in which Google translation gave a bizarre result but without giving a direct request for your response. I presume that there was a failure for this situation to be resolved but I think this was may have been in the context of unnecessary antagonism from the start.
Please consider your use of 'What you don't seem to understand ...'. However, the diff that was presented, in my view took content to a very different extreme, in a way that is, I think, unrepresentative of the general tone expressed in source materials.
Here you very clearly deflected from the original content of the discussion. It is a tactic that other editors in the discussion have themselves adopted as I can very easily cite but this does not change the fact that the behaviour is less than ideal. This discussion could have been dealt with simply and unrelated matters could have been raised elsewhere.
Your point here, I think, has great validity and all the more so as I think about it in retrospect. I think that Talk:ISIL documents significant attempts to surreptitiously edit the article, close down editors and present manipulative spins... and there is more that can be said.
I can't see what in any of this is about. Even if there was something wrong in giving relevant warnings to other editors I do not see it."
I find this one particularly annoying. The edit must be viewed in the context, see: #Israel. The discussion had continued and P123ct1 fairly resumed the discussion as: #Israel(2) citing that "The discussion on this was side-tracked by the long digression above" but, to be fair, with the sidetracking being initiated by Technophant and with inclusion of content that is inappropriate for an article talk page discussion]].
Please actually take a look. The accusation seems ludicrous to me and an independent editor even finished the thread with the comment: ".. Worldedixor has been nothing if not civil in an attempt to build consensus among all of those with an interest in this issue. In fact, everything has been done to ensure an inclusive venue and opportunity for talk. Proper adherence to, and reiteration of the rules should not be mistaken for 'shouting'"
Please recognise that editors may have genuine concerns regarding the relevance of citations and perhaps imagine how you might cope if citations were similarly presented in Amharic or a language with which you were not proficient. Please consider that the language thing there is a legitimate preference for English and that you may need to calmly present a fair rationale for use of Arabic. What does the writing of four replies in a row while requesting admin assistance say to you? My view is that Unique Arabic contents have a place but they are best presented in ways that will make them replaceable with relevant English substitutes when possible. Non-Arabic editors, who have genuine desire to build an unbiased encyclopedia, may be well positioned to comment on the usefulness of Arabic citations. (Before I was helped find the above link, I found this indication of good interaction.
What? The only boldfacing came as: '"The Israeli Ministry of Defence approves the designation of Daa3esh as a terrorist movment". Hope this helps.' How is this a hostile attack. The text also demonstrates a willingness to strike text. This leaves honest representation of mistakes which displays better form than other editors involved in this affair. I personally wish more be people here could invoke their "own ability to read non-English sources".
Note: the three completed edit commentaries read: "Removed good faith POV -- 'Wikipedia is not a forum", "remove per NOTAFORUM and BLP - there is no evidence of this and this is not a talk page to discuss it)" and "(Rm as per NOTAFORUM, BLP and NPOV. It is OK to have reasonable doubts about the video but no need to slander the US Government)". Collapsing content, as warranted, may have been more advisable.
To be fair, after the other editor presented: "We both know what you did ;-)" and the question was unacceptably raised as: "WHAT DID I DO, JERK?", no answer was given. While the capitalisation and use of JERK are clearly unacceptable I think it can also be noted that it is possible to interpret that the context was not necessarily one of helping an editor towards better behaviour.
Please take time here and try to see the various objectionable parts of your, unsurprisingly, unanswered content. Unless you have a valid reason for concluding that an editor is, for instance, edit waring by undermining the credibility of content, then the unparalleled drama of this fruitless mail. P123ct1 and I have differences in view on content, not to the extent that you have but, honestly, in the case where the other person happens to be reasonable, then there are other ways to clarify understandings. Read WP:CONSENSUS as a way to reach Wikipedia's goals. This was not a discussion. It didn't have a chance. Even if you happened to have been very right in what you said then your presentation would still have most likely attracted conflict but, as things were, there was only one contributor.
I see a difference of opinion here between mainly between to editors on another editors talk page. Worldedixor exited discussion at 23:21, 21 August 2014 (UTC) and the other two editors continued with five more entries into a discussion that ended at, 01:18, 23 August 2014 (UTC). Well there goes. I certainly think that there are things you still need to take on board here and I hope that you take points as relevant to heart. Please take special reference to what I said about "may". If I thought the situation had been more severe then at this point there is more advice that I would give but will leave any content for another time. Please also consider any relevant issues from other of your inter editor interactions. Various editors have presented a variety of perspectives about you and, while I hope that they are primarily reacting to first hand reference, there is a general set of themes presented. Have another look at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Worldedixor. Forget about Technophant's absence of accountability at the end of the page. Focus on the earlier points mentioned. There are legitimate issues here and people here need to know about your accountability. I also hope that other editors can take an unbiased look at the information presented in their development of views related to the content. I think that much of it speaks for itself. |
Gregkaye ✍♪ 16:45, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
You have been reported to WP:SPI on suspicion of sock-puppeting. The link to the SPI case is here. Please note that you have the right to defend yourself in the section at the end, "Comments by other users". ~ P-123 ( talk) 01:47, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Interesting that three out of four editors here no longer edit in Wikipedia, after various debacles involving them. (1) Worldedixor - indeff blocked; (2) Technophant - indeff blocked; (3) P-123 - three-month IBAN and TBAN, now expired. Only GregKaye - three-month IBAN now expired - still edits. WP has its ways of driving productive editors away to the extent that they no longer wish to return. ~ P-123 ( talk) 21:51, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Technophant ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Technophant has requested an unblock under the standard offer. As one of about 60 editors who has contributed to User talk:Technophant you may have an interest in this request. Sent by user:PBS via -- MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:48, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
The article Bernard Sauvat has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.
If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{ prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. TheImaCow ( talk) 14:23, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Worldedixor, do you realize that you have edited PBS's page 45 times in a space of six hours? (Posting your so often stated "I am out of here" as early as the second of the 45 edits — perhaps your password was hacked and somebody else did the other 43?) And yet you state in (approximately) the tenth that "I have shown a lot of restraint today". If nothing else, I presume you realize each of those edits gives the user an alert?
Anyway. Remember when I told you "However, taking your anger with P123ct1 to other arenas, such as ANI, and hounding them there isn't acceptable either, so I suppose I'd better give you a more all-encompassing warning this time. Don't attack P123ct1 or anybody else in any way, or hound them with petty complaints, or you may be blocked"
?
[1] Bold in my original. I didn't actually have to read longer than your second post on PBS's page to see that you have started up again with a vengeance. I clicked on some of your diffs purporting to show such things as P123ct1 having "called you names" (
this is that particular diff), and they're ridiculous. I have blocked you indefinitely for persistent personal attacks and harassment. It seems to me you have been given many chances to desist and back off, but this is the last straw; I'm not going to tolerate it any longer. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may
appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
, but you should read the
guide to appealing blocks first.
Bishonen |
talk 14:48, 5 November 2014 (UTC).
QUESTIONS TO THE BLOCKING ADMIN so that I can understand what I was blocked for indefinitely:
I had a few days to calm down and reflect on this block. I feel that this indefinite block was a heavy-handed punishment considering that other editors engaging in open edit wars and multiple policy violations have received much lesser block periods or none.
QUESTION 1: REMOVED!
QUESTION 2: REMOVED!
For easy refernce, I will link to [2]
QUESTION 3: REMOVED!
QUESTION 4: I am an editor with exceptional knowledge and my history of "article" edits are well sourced and consistent with policy. Are you aware of my good contributions to Wikipedia? and do you have anything encouraging to say about my always sourced "article" contributions?. If you need examples, ask.
QUESTION 5: Are you aware that many of my highly insightful and well sourced edits have been repeatedly confronted and reverted? Are you aware that I did not even do a 1RR to avoid a WP:EW? If you need examples, ask.
QUESTION 6: REMOVED!
QUESTION 7: REMOVED!
QUESTION 8: REMOVED!
QUESTION 9: REMOVED!
Worldedixor ( talk) 04:22, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Another form of trolling can occur in the form of continual questions with obvious or easy-to-find answers. Of course, sometimes what is obvious to one person is obscure to another. If a user seems to be asking stupid questions, try to give them the resources to help themselves. You can also send them to the help desk. If they persist, politely explain that you would love to help but you are rather busy.. OK, I would love to help but I'm rather busy. Unless you have something new and meaningful to say to me, I will not respond further on this page. Bishonen | talk 17:08, 10 November 2014 (UTC).
Worldedixor ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
As outlined above
Decline reason:
Worldedixor, I'm declining your unblock request, because your method of presentation is so chaotic, I have serious concerns that you are competent enough to edit Wikipedia. I suggest you write a new unblock request which coherently explains why you should be unblocked. PhilKnight ( talk) 23:40, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Worldedixor, you totally ignored my last paragraph! Brief means an absolute maximum of 300 words but aim for 200 or less. For example Bishonen blocking message was about 280 words and that included some stuff cut and pasted from elsewhere that has to be in a message informing a user of a block. I fully endorse what PhilKnight wrote (in 42 words) and reluctantly given your postings here and elsewhere draw the same conclusion as he does.
You do not seem to realise why you were blocked, and unless you can convince an administrator that you understand those reasons your requests to be unblocked will be declined. Read very carefully what Bishonen, Dougweller, PhilKnight have written, because their comments are designed to help you not hinder you be an effective and collegiate editor.
As you seem to be so far away from grasping the points they are making, I suggest you sped a few weeks looking at other unblock requests ( Category:Requests for unblock), consider if you would unblock a user given what (s)he has done and what (s)he say in their unblock requests, and see what administrators decide to do. Also re-read WP:guide to appealing blocks, and construct your request based what you have learnt within its framework, when you make another appeal against your block. (this comment up to the bracket was 216 words long). -- PBS ( talk) 10:59, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Worldedixor I think that you need to pull yourself together and face up to home truths which, by definition, are not truths away from home but truths that apply solely and particularly to your own situation. Forget other people's faults, existent or not, as these are not at issue in your current situation. I am glad that you say: "What you advised helps me see where I may have been wrong." There is one word in there that may indicate where things have not fully connected to the extent that they could.
You have previously been referred to Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks. Which most relevantly states:
You, as a blocked editor, are responsible for convincing administrators:
To this point administrators have unanimously and, in the overall picture, I think fairly taken the view that the block was necessary for the purpose of preventing damage or disruption. I would suggest that, if you choose, you make the case as to why you think that the block is no longer necessary.
Be specific. As you know, there have been times when I have made confessions even when I haven't had to. Also, when I was taken to AN/I, even though WP:SOAPBOX hadn't even been mentioned this, being the thing that was playing on my mind. I freely confessed this at a time when I thought the politics were done and have endeavoured to follow this principle since.
In the RfC/U you were accused of:
"Article talk page abuses"
This section contains an extensive (1650 word but I think relevant) text related both to the clarification of actual wrong doing by Worldedixor and references to the overstatement of various cases. The second part was not planned and, while I do not want to detract from relevant areas of cited wrongdoing, I also think it relevant to notify reviewers and interested parties of questionable content within.
My conjecture is that this "RfC/U" was not so much written as a request for comment but as a non-neutral statement of condemnation coupled with request for agreement and that, in totality, many of the interventions presented within do not demonstrate best practice in relation to Wikipedia's policies regarding dispute resolution. In addition to statements within that I think were misrepresentative I further question the selective use of external type links that focus on individual edits while no direct reference to context is provided. Other links in the RfC/U, if followed through to get to the actual edits, I believe demonstrate provocative comment particularly by Technophant, the primary author of the RfC/U. I further propose that the related talk page discussion of the RfC/U ended in a way which I consider indicative of the characteristic unaccountability and evasiveness of the primary author. I lastly propose that any later remarks by Worldedixor, while not being excused, should be rightly considered within the context here mentioned. Gregkaye ✍♪ 10:33, 12 November 2014 (UTC) |
---|
I will add comment in italics but it is up to you to indicate why these may no longer apply or what you will do to counteract any tendency. (I would further encourage independent contributors to add further comment to my comments as relevant)
I honestly don't personally see major fault here on either side. You presented issue related to the acceptability of a sourced Arabic text whose quoted content currently gets 1,080 hits. You were given a dismissive response (but which may better be understood in context) and independent editor quoted: ' WP:NOENG: "Citations to non-English sources are allowed. However, because this is the English-language Wikipedia, English-language sources are preferred over non-English ones, whenever English sources of equal quality and relevance are available."' You declared willingness to follow WP:AGF. The final comment eventually got round to clarifying a problem that: This particular situation was one in which Google translation gave a bizarre result but without giving a direct request for your response. I presume that there was a failure for this situation to be resolved but I think this was may have been in the context of unnecessary antagonism from the start.
Please consider your use of 'What you don't seem to understand ...'. However, the diff that was presented, in my view took content to a very different extreme, in a way that is, I think, unrepresentative of the general tone expressed in source materials.
Here you very clearly deflected from the original content of the discussion. It is a tactic that other editors in the discussion have themselves adopted as I can very easily cite but this does not change the fact that the behaviour is less than ideal. This discussion could have been dealt with simply and unrelated matters could have been raised elsewhere.
Your point here, I think, has great validity and all the more so as I think about it in retrospect. I think that Talk:ISIL documents significant attempts to surreptitiously edit the article, close down editors and present manipulative spins... and there is more that can be said.
I can't see what in any of this is about. Even if there was something wrong in giving relevant warnings to other editors I do not see it."
I find this one particularly annoying. The edit must be viewed in the context, see: #Israel. The discussion had continued and P123ct1 fairly resumed the discussion as: #Israel(2) citing that "The discussion on this was side-tracked by the long digression above" but, to be fair, with the sidetracking being initiated by Technophant and with inclusion of content that is inappropriate for an article talk page discussion]].
Please actually take a look. The accusation seems ludicrous to me and an independent editor even finished the thread with the comment: ".. Worldedixor has been nothing if not civil in an attempt to build consensus among all of those with an interest in this issue. In fact, everything has been done to ensure an inclusive venue and opportunity for talk. Proper adherence to, and reiteration of the rules should not be mistaken for 'shouting'"
Please recognise that editors may have genuine concerns regarding the relevance of citations and perhaps imagine how you might cope if citations were similarly presented in Amharic or a language with which you were not proficient. Please consider that the language thing there is a legitimate preference for English and that you may need to calmly present a fair rationale for use of Arabic. What does the writing of four replies in a row while requesting admin assistance say to you? My view is that Unique Arabic contents have a place but they are best presented in ways that will make them replaceable with relevant English substitutes when possible. Non-Arabic editors, who have genuine desire to build an unbiased encyclopedia, may be well positioned to comment on the usefulness of Arabic citations. (Before I was helped find the above link, I found this indication of good interaction.
What? The only boldfacing came as: '"The Israeli Ministry of Defence approves the designation of Daa3esh as a terrorist movment". Hope this helps.' How is this a hostile attack. The text also demonstrates a willingness to strike text. This leaves honest representation of mistakes which displays better form than other editors involved in this affair. I personally wish more be people here could invoke their "own ability to read non-English sources".
Note: the three completed edit commentaries read: "Removed good faith POV -- 'Wikipedia is not a forum", "remove per NOTAFORUM and BLP - there is no evidence of this and this is not a talk page to discuss it)" and "(Rm as per NOTAFORUM, BLP and NPOV. It is OK to have reasonable doubts about the video but no need to slander the US Government)". Collapsing content, as warranted, may have been more advisable.
To be fair, after the other editor presented: "We both know what you did ;-)" and the question was unacceptably raised as: "WHAT DID I DO, JERK?", no answer was given. While the capitalisation and use of JERK are clearly unacceptable I think it can also be noted that it is possible to interpret that the context was not necessarily one of helping an editor towards better behaviour.
Please take time here and try to see the various objectionable parts of your, unsurprisingly, unanswered content. Unless you have a valid reason for concluding that an editor is, for instance, edit waring by undermining the credibility of content, then the unparalleled drama of this fruitless mail. P123ct1 and I have differences in view on content, not to the extent that you have but, honestly, in the case where the other person happens to be reasonable, then there are other ways to clarify understandings. Read WP:CONSENSUS as a way to reach Wikipedia's goals. This was not a discussion. It didn't have a chance. Even if you happened to have been very right in what you said then your presentation would still have most likely attracted conflict but, as things were, there was only one contributor.
I see a difference of opinion here between mainly between to editors on another editors talk page. Worldedixor exited discussion at 23:21, 21 August 2014 (UTC) and the other two editors continued with five more entries into a discussion that ended at, 01:18, 23 August 2014 (UTC). Well there goes. I certainly think that there are things you still need to take on board here and I hope that you take points as relevant to heart. Please take special reference to what I said about "may". If I thought the situation had been more severe then at this point there is more advice that I would give but will leave any content for another time. Please also consider any relevant issues from other of your inter editor interactions. Various editors have presented a variety of perspectives about you and, while I hope that they are primarily reacting to first hand reference, there is a general set of themes presented. Have another look at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Worldedixor. Forget about Technophant's absence of accountability at the end of the page. Focus on the earlier points mentioned. There are legitimate issues here and people here need to know about your accountability. I also hope that other editors can take an unbiased look at the information presented in their development of views related to the content. I think that much of it speaks for itself. |
Gregkaye ✍♪ 16:45, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
You have been reported to WP:SPI on suspicion of sock-puppeting. The link to the SPI case is here. Please note that you have the right to defend yourself in the section at the end, "Comments by other users". ~ P-123 ( talk) 01:47, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Interesting that three out of four editors here no longer edit in Wikipedia, after various debacles involving them. (1) Worldedixor - indeff blocked; (2) Technophant - indeff blocked; (3) P-123 - three-month IBAN and TBAN, now expired. Only GregKaye - three-month IBAN now expired - still edits. WP has its ways of driving productive editors away to the extent that they no longer wish to return. ~ P-123 ( talk) 21:51, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Technophant ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Technophant has requested an unblock under the standard offer. As one of about 60 editors who has contributed to User talk:Technophant you may have an interest in this request. Sent by user:PBS via -- MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:48, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
The article Bernard Sauvat has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.
If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{ prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. TheImaCow ( talk) 14:23, 19 May 2020 (UTC)