Hi, this is my archive page. I periodically move discussions here from my talk page. They are in alphabetical order. This page is mostly for me, so I can easily look over past discussions, and some of what's on here was actually originally posted elsewhere.
Hi, I saw that you changed the 'Highest-grossing' and 'Average of each film' ranks of the "Transformers film series". The change you made in the 'Highest-grossing' rank, is absolutely correct, no doubt about that. However I am wondering whether the other one is correct or not. The thing is that, the 'Average of each film' rank, of the "Transformer film series" becomes #6, if you include the '1986 animated film' in it as well. But I think this particular article talks about just the "(Live) Transformer films", and so it won't include the animated film. So I believe keeping the average rank as #3 would be correct. However this is just my opinion. If you have a different opinion, please share. Thanks. Namanbapna ( talk) 06:52, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
It doesn't look like he's playing guitar here. I mean, if he actually does play acoustic guitar live, I'm fine with adding it, but do you actually have any proof? Woknam66 talk James Bond 15:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
It's only on the song "Ice Cream Man." I do actually have proof. In the game "Guitar Hero Van Halen" On the song facts in Ice Cream Man it says that he played the Acoustic Guitar both live and in the studio. This is reliable information as Van Halen helped create the game and probably asked them to put it in the song facts. Jamcad01 ( talk) 00:20, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Woknam66 talk James Bond 03:14, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
It should be noted that social networking sites (such as Facebook, Myspace, etc.) are not reliable sources. The section of their official website does not state that they have left and that page can change at any point. Try and find reliable third-party sources before making changes. Also, source the changes in the article body here:
- HrZ ( talk) 15:25, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
So, we've recently been having a back-and-forth about Chad Stewart and Jeremy Guns leaving the Tracii Guns lineup of L.A. Guns. You don't like my sources, but I think we should change it anyways. While I happen to completely disagree with you, I understand your reasoning, and I think I have found a solution that should make us both happy. You originally said "Social networking sites are not reliable sources. Please find a reliable third-party source for the changes." However, according to WP:SOCIALMEDIA, "...pages on social networking sites such as Twitter or Facebook should only be used to support personal information about subjects—in articles about those subjects—if the page is confirmed by another source, such as the subject's website, as belonging to the subject. When such authentication is not possible, pages on social networking sites should not be used." So if you can confirm that a Facebook account is a person's official account, then it can be considered a reliable source. On Tracii Guns's official website, it links to his official Facebook page. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this means that the Facebook page can be considered a reliable source for the change. Woknam66 talk James Bond 15:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
That would work, however I'm concerned about this line "in articles about those subjects—if the page is confirmed by another source, such as the subject's website, as belonging to the subject." It's just a small matter, the website and facebook are Tracii's but the subject is about L.A. Guns, not Tracii Guns - though this on the website does links to both facebook pages. Problem is it states that Danny Nordhal and Stewart are members on the L.A. Guns facebook page. Is there a link to a post (on either fb page) about neither being a member? This could indeed solve this issue! HrZ ( talk) 15:24, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Regarding Jon Evans. While he did play on the album, that does not necessarily make him a member of the band. Lots of bands have studio musicians that help with an album, and while they certainly contribute, they're not called "band members". However, your chart is under the heading of "band members", thus creating the problem. Sergecross73 msg me 17:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi, this is my archive page. I periodically move discussions here from my talk page. They are in alphabetical order. This page is mostly for me, so I can easily look over past discussions, and some of what's on here was actually originally posted elsewhere.
Hi, I saw that you changed the 'Highest-grossing' and 'Average of each film' ranks of the "Transformers film series". The change you made in the 'Highest-grossing' rank, is absolutely correct, no doubt about that. However I am wondering whether the other one is correct or not. The thing is that, the 'Average of each film' rank, of the "Transformer film series" becomes #6, if you include the '1986 animated film' in it as well. But I think this particular article talks about just the "(Live) Transformer films", and so it won't include the animated film. So I believe keeping the average rank as #3 would be correct. However this is just my opinion. If you have a different opinion, please share. Thanks. Namanbapna ( talk) 06:52, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
It doesn't look like he's playing guitar here. I mean, if he actually does play acoustic guitar live, I'm fine with adding it, but do you actually have any proof? Woknam66 talk James Bond 15:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
It's only on the song "Ice Cream Man." I do actually have proof. In the game "Guitar Hero Van Halen" On the song facts in Ice Cream Man it says that he played the Acoustic Guitar both live and in the studio. This is reliable information as Van Halen helped create the game and probably asked them to put it in the song facts. Jamcad01 ( talk) 00:20, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Woknam66 talk James Bond 03:14, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
It should be noted that social networking sites (such as Facebook, Myspace, etc.) are not reliable sources. The section of their official website does not state that they have left and that page can change at any point. Try and find reliable third-party sources before making changes. Also, source the changes in the article body here:
- HrZ ( talk) 15:25, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
So, we've recently been having a back-and-forth about Chad Stewart and Jeremy Guns leaving the Tracii Guns lineup of L.A. Guns. You don't like my sources, but I think we should change it anyways. While I happen to completely disagree with you, I understand your reasoning, and I think I have found a solution that should make us both happy. You originally said "Social networking sites are not reliable sources. Please find a reliable third-party source for the changes." However, according to WP:SOCIALMEDIA, "...pages on social networking sites such as Twitter or Facebook should only be used to support personal information about subjects—in articles about those subjects—if the page is confirmed by another source, such as the subject's website, as belonging to the subject. When such authentication is not possible, pages on social networking sites should not be used." So if you can confirm that a Facebook account is a person's official account, then it can be considered a reliable source. On Tracii Guns's official website, it links to his official Facebook page. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this means that the Facebook page can be considered a reliable source for the change. Woknam66 talk James Bond 15:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
That would work, however I'm concerned about this line "in articles about those subjects—if the page is confirmed by another source, such as the subject's website, as belonging to the subject." It's just a small matter, the website and facebook are Tracii's but the subject is about L.A. Guns, not Tracii Guns - though this on the website does links to both facebook pages. Problem is it states that Danny Nordhal and Stewart are members on the L.A. Guns facebook page. Is there a link to a post (on either fb page) about neither being a member? This could indeed solve this issue! HrZ ( talk) 15:24, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Regarding Jon Evans. While he did play on the album, that does not necessarily make him a member of the band. Lots of bands have studio musicians that help with an album, and while they certainly contribute, they're not called "band members". However, your chart is under the heading of "band members", thus creating the problem. Sergecross73 msg me 17:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)