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Hi Wikiuser5991. Thanks for your note on my talk page, disclosing a conflict of interest with regard to Cleveland Clinic.
I spend time working on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia, along with my regular editing, which is mostly about health and medicine. I am not an administrator.
Lots of people come to Wikipedia with some sort of conflict of interest and are not aware of how the editing community defines and manages conflict of interest. I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below.
Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).
Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.
Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. Unmanaged conflicts of interest can also lead to people behaving in ways that violate our behavioral policies and cause disruption in the normal editing process. Managing conflict of interest well, also protects conflicted editors themselves - please see WP:Wikipedia is in the real world, and Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia for some guidance and stories about people who have brought bad press upon themselves through unmanaged conflict of interest editing.
As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).
Disclosure is the most important, and first, step, which you have begun.
To finish the disclosure piece, would you please add the disclosure to your user page (which is User:Wikiuser5991 - a redlink, because you haven't written anything there yet). Just something simple like: "I have a conflict of interest with regard to Cleveland Clinic." would be fine. If you want to add anything else there that is relevant to what you want to do in WP feel free to add it, but please don't add anything promotional about the clinic or yourself (see WP:USERPAGE for guidance if you like).
We look for disclosure centrally (at each user's userpage) and locally, at the article talk page. I've added a tag to Talk:Cleveland Clinic, so the disclosure is done there. Once you disclose on your user page, the disclosure piece of this will be done, and we can move on to the second step. I'll pause here, to avoid giving you too much at once. I'll look for you to add the disclosure at your userpage, and will continue after you do that. Jytdog ( talk) 14:09, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for making the disclosure on your userpage.
As I noted above, there are two pieces to COI management in WP. The first is disclosure. The second is a form of peer review per perhaps better, "prior review". This piece may seem a bit strange to you at first, but if you think about it, it will make sense. In Wikipedia, editors can immediately publish their work, with no intervening publisher or standard peer review -- you can just create an article, click save, and voilà there is a new article, and you can go into any article, make changes, click save, and done. No intermediary - no publisher, no "editors" as that term is used in the real world. So the bias that conflicted editors tend to have, can go right into the article. Conflicted editors are also really driven to try to make the article fit with their external interest. If they edit directly, this often leads to big battles with other editors.
What we ask of editors who have a COI or who are paid, and want to work on articles where their COI is relevant, is:
{{
request edit}}
tag to flag it for other editors to review. In general it should be relatively short so that it is not too much review at once. Sometimes editors propose complete rewrites, providing a link to their sandbox for example. This is OK to do but please be aware that it is lot more for volunteers to process and will probably take longer.By following those "peer review" processes, editors with a COI can contribute where they have a COI, and the integrity of WP can be protected. We get some great contributions that way, when conflicted editors take the time to understand what kinds of proposals are OK under the content policies.
But understanding the mission, and the policies and guidelines through which we realize the mission, is very important. There are a whole slew of policies and guidelines that govern content and behavior here in Wikipedia. Please see User:Jytdog/How for an overview of what Wikipedia is and is not (we are not a directory or a place to promote anything), and for an overview of the content and behavior policies and guidelines. Learning and following these is very important, and takes time. Please be aware that you have created a Wikipedia account, and this makes you a Wikipedian - you are obligated to pursue Wikipedia's mission first and foremost when you work here, and you are obligated to edit according to the policies and guidelines. Editing Wikipedia is a privilege that is freely offered to all, but the community restricts or completely takes that privilege away from people who will not edit and behave as Wikipedians.
I hope that makes sense to you.
I want to add here that per the WP:COI guideline, if you want to directly update simple, uncontroversial facts (for example, correcting the facts about where a company has offices) you can do that directly in the article, without making an edit request on the Talk page. Just be sure to always cite a reliable source for the information you change, and make sure it is simple, factual, uncontroversial content. If you are not sure if something is uncontroversial, please ask at the Talk page.
Will you please agree to learn and follow the content and behavioral policies and guidelines, and to follow the peer review processes going forward when you want to work on any article where your COI is relevant? Do let me know, and if anything above doesn't make sense I would be happy to discuss. Best regards Jytdog ( talk) 16:51, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Above I warned you not to edit directly, as you will get into battles with other editors.
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add soapboxing, promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, as you did at Cleveland Clinic, you may be blocked from editing. Jytdog ( talk) 02:01, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Please disclose if you have edited while logged out since you created this account. Please be aware that if you have done so and do not disclose that, you will have violated our policy on evading scrutiny, called WP:SOCK and will be subject to a block, the length of which is at an administrator's discretion but is generally indefinite. If you disclose it, it is OK but you must do that every time so there is no ambiguity. Please reply. Jytdog ( talk) 17:28, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
At the top right corner of the AfD you should see a box with orientation materials.
In case you don't, here are the links:
Please read those and follow them in future contributions.
There is no "free speech" in Wikipedia -- as I noted above you are obligated to try to learn the policies and guidelines and follow them. Jytdog ( talk) 21:01, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Please stop restoring the WP:OFFTOPIC content at the AfD
Your recent editing history at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Jytdog ( talk) 21:02, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Wikiuser5991, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:
You may also want to complete the Wikipedia Adventure, an interactive tour that will help you learn the basics of editing Wikipedia. You can visit the Teahouse to ask questions or seek help.
Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or , and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome!
Hi Wikiuser5991. Thanks for your note on my talk page, disclosing a conflict of interest with regard to Cleveland Clinic.
I spend time working on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia, along with my regular editing, which is mostly about health and medicine. I am not an administrator.
Lots of people come to Wikipedia with some sort of conflict of interest and are not aware of how the editing community defines and manages conflict of interest. I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below.
Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).
Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.
Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. Unmanaged conflicts of interest can also lead to people behaving in ways that violate our behavioral policies and cause disruption in the normal editing process. Managing conflict of interest well, also protects conflicted editors themselves - please see WP:Wikipedia is in the real world, and Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia for some guidance and stories about people who have brought bad press upon themselves through unmanaged conflict of interest editing.
As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).
Disclosure is the most important, and first, step, which you have begun.
To finish the disclosure piece, would you please add the disclosure to your user page (which is User:Wikiuser5991 - a redlink, because you haven't written anything there yet). Just something simple like: "I have a conflict of interest with regard to Cleveland Clinic." would be fine. If you want to add anything else there that is relevant to what you want to do in WP feel free to add it, but please don't add anything promotional about the clinic or yourself (see WP:USERPAGE for guidance if you like).
We look for disclosure centrally (at each user's userpage) and locally, at the article talk page. I've added a tag to Talk:Cleveland Clinic, so the disclosure is done there. Once you disclose on your user page, the disclosure piece of this will be done, and we can move on to the second step. I'll pause here, to avoid giving you too much at once. I'll look for you to add the disclosure at your userpage, and will continue after you do that. Jytdog ( talk) 14:09, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for making the disclosure on your userpage.
As I noted above, there are two pieces to COI management in WP. The first is disclosure. The second is a form of peer review per perhaps better, "prior review". This piece may seem a bit strange to you at first, but if you think about it, it will make sense. In Wikipedia, editors can immediately publish their work, with no intervening publisher or standard peer review -- you can just create an article, click save, and voilà there is a new article, and you can go into any article, make changes, click save, and done. No intermediary - no publisher, no "editors" as that term is used in the real world. So the bias that conflicted editors tend to have, can go right into the article. Conflicted editors are also really driven to try to make the article fit with their external interest. If they edit directly, this often leads to big battles with other editors.
What we ask of editors who have a COI or who are paid, and want to work on articles where their COI is relevant, is:
{{
request edit}}
tag to flag it for other editors to review. In general it should be relatively short so that it is not too much review at once. Sometimes editors propose complete rewrites, providing a link to their sandbox for example. This is OK to do but please be aware that it is lot more for volunteers to process and will probably take longer.By following those "peer review" processes, editors with a COI can contribute where they have a COI, and the integrity of WP can be protected. We get some great contributions that way, when conflicted editors take the time to understand what kinds of proposals are OK under the content policies.
But understanding the mission, and the policies and guidelines through which we realize the mission, is very important. There are a whole slew of policies and guidelines that govern content and behavior here in Wikipedia. Please see User:Jytdog/How for an overview of what Wikipedia is and is not (we are not a directory or a place to promote anything), and for an overview of the content and behavior policies and guidelines. Learning and following these is very important, and takes time. Please be aware that you have created a Wikipedia account, and this makes you a Wikipedian - you are obligated to pursue Wikipedia's mission first and foremost when you work here, and you are obligated to edit according to the policies and guidelines. Editing Wikipedia is a privilege that is freely offered to all, but the community restricts or completely takes that privilege away from people who will not edit and behave as Wikipedians.
I hope that makes sense to you.
I want to add here that per the WP:COI guideline, if you want to directly update simple, uncontroversial facts (for example, correcting the facts about where a company has offices) you can do that directly in the article, without making an edit request on the Talk page. Just be sure to always cite a reliable source for the information you change, and make sure it is simple, factual, uncontroversial content. If you are not sure if something is uncontroversial, please ask at the Talk page.
Will you please agree to learn and follow the content and behavioral policies and guidelines, and to follow the peer review processes going forward when you want to work on any article where your COI is relevant? Do let me know, and if anything above doesn't make sense I would be happy to discuss. Best regards Jytdog ( talk) 16:51, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Above I warned you not to edit directly, as you will get into battles with other editors.
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add soapboxing, promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, as you did at Cleveland Clinic, you may be blocked from editing. Jytdog ( talk) 02:01, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Please disclose if you have edited while logged out since you created this account. Please be aware that if you have done so and do not disclose that, you will have violated our policy on evading scrutiny, called WP:SOCK and will be subject to a block, the length of which is at an administrator's discretion but is generally indefinite. If you disclose it, it is OK but you must do that every time so there is no ambiguity. Please reply. Jytdog ( talk) 17:28, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
At the top right corner of the AfD you should see a box with orientation materials.
In case you don't, here are the links:
Please read those and follow them in future contributions.
There is no "free speech" in Wikipedia -- as I noted above you are obligated to try to learn the policies and guidelines and follow them. Jytdog ( talk) 21:01, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Please stop restoring the WP:OFFTOPIC content at the AfD
Your recent editing history at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Jytdog ( talk) 21:02, 21 August 2018 (UTC)