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I noticed your contributions at this article but please understand that Wikipedia has a learning curve; that Wikipedia is not a public relations brochure for the PDFA; that there are rules regarding sources, specifically, primary sources are not used unless necessary; blogs are suspect; links to MetLife publications are suspect. The ideal references are newspapers and magazines and trade journals, where a reporter (an objective secondary source, examines the PDFA, and comments about it in a peer-reviewed publication which is accountable; it is not acceptable to link directly to blogs, PDFA websites, when writing about the PDFA (there are some exceptions when it is basic information which can not be found elsewhere.) Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an extension of the PDFA website. The materials you added belong more properly on the PDFA website, and readers can find it there or elsewhere if they look, but not in Wikipedia. If you need help with this article, please feel free to ask.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:03, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

The goal of my updates on this article is to give an appropriate info on what the company is and what is this grugfree.org about nowadays. It looks that this organisation is different of what is shown in the history section, and current section is a glance from 2011. Though I add a community involvement in to the description, I still see the article a poor information source on what is current. You well noticed that the information reflects many parts of their website, as the information I am posting is current (probably same as website). The information is gathered from different locations and most of them are reliable secondary sources, not primary ones, as I mostly used in previous update. I think I already gathered enough information with decent references to appropriately update the current section. Please feel free to use this information to make updates. I would be grateful if you will help with page updates on all this what company achieved through 2010-s. Also, if you don't have time to make changes, please point those references you think are suspect so I can find better info on the matter; please, point anything that looks like public relations brochure in what I posted, so I can delete it. I will have some time to make another adding through the weekend. Thank you.-- VladKopy ( talk) 18:34, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply
I posted comments in the next section. Again, my advice is please read Wikipedia's rules carefully, specifically about primary vs secondary sources, neutrality, verifiability, etc and become familiar with them.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply
Thank you for help. I will check all this in a while, and post suggested updates in Talk first.-- VladKopy ( talk) 17:26, 1 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.74.49.194 ( talk) reply

Section deleted from PDFA article

Community Education Programs

Across the nation through community education programs, The Partnership at Drugfree.org has trained more than 1,500 professionals who are working daily with local leaders, concerned citizens, parents and teens — in neighborhoods, schools, civic organizations, community centers and churches — to deliver research-based programs designed to help communities prevent teen drug and alcohol abuse. [1]

Source = blog = no good; plus this reads like a brochure (eg 'trained more than 1,500 professionals...')-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

Providing information about specific drug threats, risks, and protective factors and warning signs of use, the Community Education program was developed to include a suite of research-based tools and information for parents, caregivers, youth, and community stakeholders. Each presentation within the program contains tips to help people recognize and respond to substance abuse issues in their neighborhoods. [2]

Primary source; this is from the viewpoint of the PDFA; Wikipedia wants a neutral viewpoint, detached.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

PACT360 (Police and Communities Together)

With funding from the U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Assistance, and The Office of Community Oriented Policing Services, The Partnership at Drugfree.org, developed PACT360- Police and Communities Together. Launched in 2006, PACT360 is a law enforcement-led community prevention education system designed to deal with existing drug issues and rapidly respond to emerging drug threats. The goal is to help reduce illicit drug use and its accompanying criminal behavior thereby improving the safety and quality of life of the community. Initially focused on methamphetamine only, PACT360, has been exapanded to address all youth drug and alcohol issues, deliver research-based information and resources to the caregivers to help them deal with these issues. The PACT360 Website provides a wide range of resources to parents and community organizations that are working to prevent or respond to substance abuse issues. The site enhances the ability of local law enforcement and prevention and treatement organizations to network and engage with parents and other community stake holders. [3]

Problem -- did a newspaper reporter from NY Times, USA Today, or writer in The Atlantic comment about this PACT360 program? If they did, then great; if not, then it's original research saying to the effect that "This PACT360 is an important and notable development". That's what we need -- secondary sources. Not from the viewpoint of a PDFA spokesperson.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

Play Healthy

Play Healthy is a resource for professionals who work with teens, including coaches and teachers, as well as for parents. It provides information about Performance Enhancing Substances (PES) such as steroids, stimulants and human growth hormone (HGH). Parents can also download a Parent Talk Kit that offers guidance on how to talk to your teen about PES. [4]

Same issue -- why is this important? It's a primary source -- a U. Miami website.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

Time To Act

Developed in collaboration with scientists from the Treatment Research Institute, Time to Act offers step-by-step advice and compassionate guidance from substance abuse experts, family therapists, scientists and fellow parents to help guide families through the process of understanding drug and alcohol use, confronting a child, setting boundaries, and seeking outside help. [5]

Same kinds of issues as before.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

Parents Toll-Free Helpline

File:Parent Helpline from drugfree org.jpg
The Partnership at Drugfree.org’s Parents Toll-Free Helpline at 1-855-DRUGFREE was launched in 2011 to give parents a place to turn for information about teen substance abuse.

The Parents Toll-Free Helpline (1-855-DRUGFREE) was launched by the Partnership at Drugfree.org in 2011 to cater specifically to concerned parents and families of children struggling with substance abuse. The toll-free helpline is bilingual, and is able to accommodate both English and Spanish-speaking families. Manning this helpline is a team of social workers with practical experience in substance abuse intervention and treatment. These social workers offer advice to help parents come up with measures to help their teens who are struggling with substance abuse and provide a list of resources and treatment facilities in their area, when needed. [6]

Same issues; not a valid source; notability -- can we get somebody from AdAge commenting on this Toll-Free Helpline?-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

Spanish-language resources

Habla Con Tus Hijos is a bilingual resource designed to address the increasingly serious problem of substance abuse by Latino adolescents. A study in 2011 found that 54% of Hispanic teens used an illicit drug in the past year as compared to 42% of African Americans and 39% of Caucasians. The site offers culturally-customized content and resources, allowing Hispanic families to better understand the effects of drugs and alcohol and the importance of communicating early with their children about its dangers. A comprehensive guide educates parents about how to take action, connect with, and help children who are abusing drugs or alcohol. [7]

More brochure material -- this stuff is available at the PDFA website; it belongs there, not in Wikipedia.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

The Medicine Abuse Project

File:The Medical Abuse project logo.jpg
The Medicine Abuse Project launched during the week of September 23-29, 2012 with Phase I of the campaign, which raised awareness about the issue and ask stakeholders to take the Pledge to help stop teen medicine abuse at MedicineAbuseProject.org.

The Medicine Abuse Project aims to prevent half a million teens from abusing medicine within five years, by mobilizing professionals across industries like healthcare, education, and law enforcement, while also raising awareness and providing educational resources to communities and families. [8]

This is a good source -- Barron's -- use it, but please write it from a neutral viewpoint; the tone suggests a brochure.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

The Medicine Abuse Project aims to prevent half a million teens from abusing medicine within five years, by mobilizing professionals across industries like healthcare, education, and law enforcement, while also raising awareness and providing educational resources to communities and families. [9]

Primary source = no good -- from the PDFA itself.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply
  1. ^ "Find Your Cause: The Partnership at Drugfree.org". THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF CATCHAFIRE.ORG. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  2. ^ "Training the Trainer: The PACT360 Learning Center". Community Oriented Policing Services. 2013-03-01. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  3. ^ "Neighborhood Watch and PACT360". Neighborhood Watch Program-National Sheriffs’ Association. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  4. ^ "Resources on Substance Abuse". Center of Excellence for Health Disparities Research. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  5. ^ "THE PARTNERSHIP ATTITUDE TRACKING STUDY" (PDF). METLIFE FOUNDATION. 2012-05-02. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  6. ^ "1-855-DRUGFREE Helpline for Parents Launched". Drug Free Homes. 2011-09-22. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  7. ^ "Habla Con Tus Hijos - New Site Launched to Address Latino Teen Substance Abuse". Bixal. 2012-06-27. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  8. ^ "The Risks in Your Medicine Cabinet". Dow Jones & Company, Inc. 2012-11-26. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  9. ^ "The Medicine Abuse Project - About". The Partnership at DrugFree.org. 2013-03-06. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I noticed your contributions at this article but please understand that Wikipedia has a learning curve; that Wikipedia is not a public relations brochure for the PDFA; that there are rules regarding sources, specifically, primary sources are not used unless necessary; blogs are suspect; links to MetLife publications are suspect. The ideal references are newspapers and magazines and trade journals, where a reporter (an objective secondary source, examines the PDFA, and comments about it in a peer-reviewed publication which is accountable; it is not acceptable to link directly to blogs, PDFA websites, when writing about the PDFA (there are some exceptions when it is basic information which can not be found elsewhere.) Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an extension of the PDFA website. The materials you added belong more properly on the PDFA website, and readers can find it there or elsewhere if they look, but not in Wikipedia. If you need help with this article, please feel free to ask.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:03, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

The goal of my updates on this article is to give an appropriate info on what the company is and what is this grugfree.org about nowadays. It looks that this organisation is different of what is shown in the history section, and current section is a glance from 2011. Though I add a community involvement in to the description, I still see the article a poor information source on what is current. You well noticed that the information reflects many parts of their website, as the information I am posting is current (probably same as website). The information is gathered from different locations and most of them are reliable secondary sources, not primary ones, as I mostly used in previous update. I think I already gathered enough information with decent references to appropriately update the current section. Please feel free to use this information to make updates. I would be grateful if you will help with page updates on all this what company achieved through 2010-s. Also, if you don't have time to make changes, please point those references you think are suspect so I can find better info on the matter; please, point anything that looks like public relations brochure in what I posted, so I can delete it. I will have some time to make another adding through the weekend. Thank you.-- VladKopy ( talk) 18:34, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply
I posted comments in the next section. Again, my advice is please read Wikipedia's rules carefully, specifically about primary vs secondary sources, neutrality, verifiability, etc and become familiar with them.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply
Thank you for help. I will check all this in a while, and post suggested updates in Talk first.-- VladKopy ( talk) 17:26, 1 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.74.49.194 ( talk) reply

Section deleted from PDFA article

Community Education Programs

Across the nation through community education programs, The Partnership at Drugfree.org has trained more than 1,500 professionals who are working daily with local leaders, concerned citizens, parents and teens — in neighborhoods, schools, civic organizations, community centers and churches — to deliver research-based programs designed to help communities prevent teen drug and alcohol abuse. [1]

Source = blog = no good; plus this reads like a brochure (eg 'trained more than 1,500 professionals...')-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

Providing information about specific drug threats, risks, and protective factors and warning signs of use, the Community Education program was developed to include a suite of research-based tools and information for parents, caregivers, youth, and community stakeholders. Each presentation within the program contains tips to help people recognize and respond to substance abuse issues in their neighborhoods. [2]

Primary source; this is from the viewpoint of the PDFA; Wikipedia wants a neutral viewpoint, detached.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

PACT360 (Police and Communities Together)

With funding from the U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Assistance, and The Office of Community Oriented Policing Services, The Partnership at Drugfree.org, developed PACT360- Police and Communities Together. Launched in 2006, PACT360 is a law enforcement-led community prevention education system designed to deal with existing drug issues and rapidly respond to emerging drug threats. The goal is to help reduce illicit drug use and its accompanying criminal behavior thereby improving the safety and quality of life of the community. Initially focused on methamphetamine only, PACT360, has been exapanded to address all youth drug and alcohol issues, deliver research-based information and resources to the caregivers to help them deal with these issues. The PACT360 Website provides a wide range of resources to parents and community organizations that are working to prevent or respond to substance abuse issues. The site enhances the ability of local law enforcement and prevention and treatement organizations to network and engage with parents and other community stake holders. [3]

Problem -- did a newspaper reporter from NY Times, USA Today, or writer in The Atlantic comment about this PACT360 program? If they did, then great; if not, then it's original research saying to the effect that "This PACT360 is an important and notable development". That's what we need -- secondary sources. Not from the viewpoint of a PDFA spokesperson.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

Play Healthy

Play Healthy is a resource for professionals who work with teens, including coaches and teachers, as well as for parents. It provides information about Performance Enhancing Substances (PES) such as steroids, stimulants and human growth hormone (HGH). Parents can also download a Parent Talk Kit that offers guidance on how to talk to your teen about PES. [4]

Same issue -- why is this important? It's a primary source -- a U. Miami website.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

Time To Act

Developed in collaboration with scientists from the Treatment Research Institute, Time to Act offers step-by-step advice and compassionate guidance from substance abuse experts, family therapists, scientists and fellow parents to help guide families through the process of understanding drug and alcohol use, confronting a child, setting boundaries, and seeking outside help. [5]

Same kinds of issues as before.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

Parents Toll-Free Helpline

File:Parent Helpline from drugfree org.jpg
The Partnership at Drugfree.org’s Parents Toll-Free Helpline at 1-855-DRUGFREE was launched in 2011 to give parents a place to turn for information about teen substance abuse.

The Parents Toll-Free Helpline (1-855-DRUGFREE) was launched by the Partnership at Drugfree.org in 2011 to cater specifically to concerned parents and families of children struggling with substance abuse. The toll-free helpline is bilingual, and is able to accommodate both English and Spanish-speaking families. Manning this helpline is a team of social workers with practical experience in substance abuse intervention and treatment. These social workers offer advice to help parents come up with measures to help their teens who are struggling with substance abuse and provide a list of resources and treatment facilities in their area, when needed. [6]

Same issues; not a valid source; notability -- can we get somebody from AdAge commenting on this Toll-Free Helpline?-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

Spanish-language resources

Habla Con Tus Hijos is a bilingual resource designed to address the increasingly serious problem of substance abuse by Latino adolescents. A study in 2011 found that 54% of Hispanic teens used an illicit drug in the past year as compared to 42% of African Americans and 39% of Caucasians. The site offers culturally-customized content and resources, allowing Hispanic families to better understand the effects of drugs and alcohol and the importance of communicating early with their children about its dangers. A comprehensive guide educates parents about how to take action, connect with, and help children who are abusing drugs or alcohol. [7]

More brochure material -- this stuff is available at the PDFA website; it belongs there, not in Wikipedia.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

The Medicine Abuse Project

File:The Medical Abuse project logo.jpg
The Medicine Abuse Project launched during the week of September 23-29, 2012 with Phase I of the campaign, which raised awareness about the issue and ask stakeholders to take the Pledge to help stop teen medicine abuse at MedicineAbuseProject.org.

The Medicine Abuse Project aims to prevent half a million teens from abusing medicine within five years, by mobilizing professionals across industries like healthcare, education, and law enforcement, while also raising awareness and providing educational resources to communities and families. [8]

This is a good source -- Barron's -- use it, but please write it from a neutral viewpoint; the tone suggests a brochure.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply

The Medicine Abuse Project aims to prevent half a million teens from abusing medicine within five years, by mobilizing professionals across industries like healthcare, education, and law enforcement, while also raising awareness and providing educational resources to communities and families. [9]

Primary source = no good -- from the PDFA itself.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC) reply
  1. ^ "Find Your Cause: The Partnership at Drugfree.org". THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF CATCHAFIRE.ORG. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  2. ^ "Training the Trainer: The PACT360 Learning Center". Community Oriented Policing Services. 2013-03-01. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  3. ^ "Neighborhood Watch and PACT360". Neighborhood Watch Program-National Sheriffs’ Association. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  4. ^ "Resources on Substance Abuse". Center of Excellence for Health Disparities Research. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  5. ^ "THE PARTNERSHIP ATTITUDE TRACKING STUDY" (PDF). METLIFE FOUNDATION. 2012-05-02. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  6. ^ "1-855-DRUGFREE Helpline for Parents Launched". Drug Free Homes. 2011-09-22. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  7. ^ "Habla Con Tus Hijos - New Site Launched to Address Latino Teen Substance Abuse". Bixal. 2012-06-27. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  8. ^ "The Risks in Your Medicine Cabinet". Dow Jones & Company, Inc. 2012-11-26. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)
  9. ^ "The Medicine Abuse Project - About". The Partnership at DrugFree.org. 2013-03-06. Retrieved 2013-03-27. {{ cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= ( help)

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