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I think this is long overdue. I appreciate what you have done and I would like to recognize the efforts of editors that contribute and aren't a part of the Wikiproject Automobile cabal.
( Regushee ( talk) 19:18, 22 April 2009 (UTC))
Hi Typ932. The James Hunt picture looks OK. It's definitely a McLaren M26 and number 7 is the right number for the 1978 British GP (he drove an M23 with number 11 in the 1976 race). I'll update the description of the Lauda pic at commons. DH85868993 ( talk) 10:04, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Typ932,
I am pleased to see that you have used my monobook script; I hope you've found it useful.
This is to let you know that ArbCom has announced a temporary injunction against the "mass delinking of dates". You can still delink dates on an occasional basis; however, you may wish to be cautious and use the script only for its non-date functions until the issue is resolved by an RFC poll. You may wish to express your view on autoformatting and date linking in the RFC at: Wikipedia:Date_formatting_and_linking_poll.
Regards Lightmouse ( talk) 17:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
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Article of the month -
2008 German Grand Prix, current Good Article Candidate.
The 2008 German Grand Prix (formally the LXVIII Großer Preis Santander von Deutschland) was a Formula One motor race held on July 20, 2008 at the Hockenheimring, Hockenheim, Germany. It was the 10th race of the 2008 Formula One season. The race, contested over 67 laps, was won by Lewis Hamilton for the McLaren team after starting from pole position. Nelson Piquet, Jr. finished second in a Renault car, with Felipe Massa third in a Ferrari. Hamilton maintained his startline advantage and led until he made his first pit stop on lap 18. As other cars made their pit stops, Hamilton regained the lead on lap 22. On lap 36 Timo Glock crashed, and the race was neutralized by the deployment of the safety car. Hamilton, on a two-stop strategy, did not stop to get more fuel during this period, while all the cars around him did. Thus when he did eventually stop on lap 50, he rejoined the race in fifth. In the closing stages of the race, Hamilton overtook first his team-mate Heikki Kovalainen, then Massa, and finally Piquet, to take the lead again on lap 60, which he maintained to win the race. The victory was Hamilton's second consecutive win, having won the preceding British Grand Prix at Silverstone. The win put him ahead of his two main rivals in the Drivers' Championship, Kimi Räikkönen (who finished sixth) and Massa of Ferrari, who were on equal points with him before the race. After the race he was four points ahead of Räikkönen, and seven ahead of Massa. In the Constructors' Championship, McLaren drew closer to the two teams ahead of them, BMW Sauber and Ferrari. Ferrari still led by 15 points from McLaren, and 12 from BMW, whose drivers – Nick Heidfeld and Robert Kubica – finished fourth and seventh respectively. ( More...) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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* Sebastian Vettel (3rd, 1:35.518) got a 10 place grid penalty for his collision with Kubica at the previous Grand Prix.
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– Cs-wolves (talk) 12:12, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I just went through and restored revisions prior to User:Jmcd88's edits on the Saturn-related articles. Because no definitive decision has yet been reported regarding the company or its models, we should revert and not {{ fact}} tag speculative edits until reliable sourcing confirms actual decisions have been made. user:j (aka justen) 06:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
'ello,
Just so you know, the reason why I put that in is so another editor doesn't try to dispute the information, tag it and then try to remove it, claiming there are no in-text citations. I got the info from Japawikipedia and that's the source.
Cheers( Regushee ( talk) 21:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC))
This is what the 2008 automotive statistics say so i just revised it. That's all.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdatinguinoo96 ( talk • contribs) 04:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
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Article of the month -
2008 Bahrain Grand Prix, new
Good Article
The 2008 Bahrain Grand Prix (formally the V Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on April 6, 2008 at the Bahrain International Circuit, in Sakhir, Bahrain. It was the third race of the 2008 Formula One season. The race, contested over 57 laps, was won by Felipe Massa for the Ferrari team. Kimi Räikkönen was second in the other Ferrari, and BMW Sauber driver Robert Kubica was third. The race began with Kubica in pole position alongside Massa; Lewis Hamilton, the eventual Drivers' Champion, started from third, alongside Räikkönen. Kubica was passed by Massa into the first corner, and then by Räikkönen on the third lap. The Ferraris dominated at the front of the race, leading to their one-two finish. Hamilton had a slow start after almost stalling on the grid, and dropped back to ninth. The McLaren driver ran into the back of Fernando Alonso's Renault a lap later, breaking off the McLaren's front wing and dropping Hamilton to the back of the field. Kubica's strong finish promoted BMW Sauber to the lead in the Constructors' Championship, after BMW driver Nick Heidfeld finished fourth. Ferrari and McLaren trailed, one and two points behind, respectively. Räikkönen took the lead in the Drivers' Championship, with 19 points, three points ahead of Heidfeld and five ahead of Hamilton, Kubica and Kovalainen, with 15 races remaining in the season. ( More..) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I saw in this diff that you added an "accessmonthday" and/or "accessdaymonth" parameter. Please be informed that these are deprecated. The preferred way is to put day, month, and year together in the "accessdate" parameter. Thank you, Debresser ( talk) 02:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello- Thanks for the cool star. I like it!! I also like your work. Regards, Vegavairbob ( talk) 01:34, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
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Great page and newsletter. Vegavairbob ( talk) 14:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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I model my edits from yours! Nice work. Regards Vegavairbob ( talk) 14:51, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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Article of the month -
2008 Turkish Grand Prix, new
Good Article
The 2008 Turkish Grand Prix (formally the IV Petrol Ofisi Turkish Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on May 11, 2008 at the Istanbul Racing Circuit, Istanbul, Turkey. It was the fifth race of the 2008 Formula One season. The race, contested over 58 laps, was won by Felipe Massa for the Ferrari team after starting from pole position. Lewis Hamilton finished second in a McLaren, with Kimi Räikkönen third in the second Ferrari. Massa claimed pole, with teammate Räikkönen fourth, the two Ferrari cars sandwiching the McLarens of Heikki Kovalainen and Hamilton. At the first corner Räikkönen clipped Kovalainen's rear tyre and gave him a puncture. The safety car was deployed on the first lap, after a collision, but only remained out for one lap. During the course of the race, Hamilton, intending to make one more pit stop than both Ferrari drivers, was faster than Massa due to carrying a lighter fuel load and overtook him on lap 24. After Hamilton had made his third pit stop, he rejoined in second behind Massa but in front of the Championship leader, Räikkönen. Massa won the race, with Hamilton 3.779 seconds behind, and Räikkönen a further half-second behind. The two BMW Sauber cars of Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld took fourth and fifth. In the week running up to the grand prix, the Super Aguri team had withdrawn from Formula One, due to financial problems, leaving the sport with only ten teams. Massa's victory was his third consecutive pole position and victory in Turkey, having also won the race from pole in 2006 and 2007. This was also Rubens Barrichello's 257th Grand Prix start, breaking Riccardo Patrese's previous record of 256. Due to the race result, Räikkönen's lead in the Drivers' Championship was lowered to seven points. Massa rose to second from fourth, whilst Hamilton dropped to third, both drivers tying on 28 points but separated by Massa's two wins thus far to Hamilton's one. In the Constructors' Championship, Ferrari increased their lead to 22 points ahead of BMW Sauber, with McLaren a further two points behind in third. ( More...) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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– Cs-wolves (talk) 01:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Regarding you reverting my good faith edits in the article, Fiat. i have got two refrences that say that Fiat and Tata were to build Global Pick Up and the Fiat Terra/Tata Xenon is that vehicle. It is assembled in a renault factory in argentina and in a tata factory in thailand. if you are satisfied then ill add the info again.-- Enthusiast10 ( talk) 08:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Isnt this for defunct companies, not companies that doesnt make trucks anymore? -- Typ932 T· C 15:02, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
I closed your second nomination of Category:2010s automobiles for deletion. This was deleted about 3 weeks ago, so lacking any new compelling information it is simply way to soon for a new nomination. Vegaswikian ( talk) 22:15, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Check the wiki of Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles. So yes, it is a separate brand and marque of Volkswagen! And also check their website: http://www.volkswagen-commercial-vehicles.com So do not remove it! Schalkcity ( talk) 18:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello- I changed entire article to past tense. At first I left the intro in present. Which way should the article be? Vegavairbob ( talk) 02:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Please do not replace Wikipedia pages with blank content, as you did to Furiosa. Blank pages are harmful to Wikipedia because they have a tendency to confuse readers. If it is a duplicate article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If the page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please the page and replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please see the deletion policy for how to proceed. -- Allen3 talk 17:26, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
before inserting tags in diesel engine aticle read understand and corrolate refs pls 24.235.241.17 ( talk) 02:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
not happening nearly as much in continental europe Wdl1961 ( talk) 17:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Straight-four engine article name should be changed to Inline-four engine, and in text sometimes referred to as Straight-4.(article is the reverse and text says sometimes referred to as inline-4). An inline-4 engine is rarely if ever referred to as a straight-4 engine. "Straight" designation is used to describe an inline-6 (straight-6) and straight-8 (50's). The designation carried over to the sixties for the six cylinder engines but not to the 70's for the four cylinder engines. I haven't seen Straight-four except on this site. It is not the proper designation for an inline four engine, and was probably only chosen because of the article writer's individual preference and/or the same writer as other "Straight engine" articles. How is the title edited. Vegavairbob ( talk) 22:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
The information I've contributed from wikis from other languages is now under dispute because it wasn't contributed by people who speak english. The user is called Biker Biker. ( Regushee ( talk) 16:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC))
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Thanks from all for the hard work you do and your help too! Vegavairbob ( talk) 20:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC) |
Hello- How are you. This guy Scheinwerfermann..... In a discussion to change an article title I opened Straight-four engine he didn't like my comments on the talk page...he opened up a full page lecture right on the article talk page!!!!check it out (by the way I didn't know you couldn't message other editors to vote and i apologised on the talk page and in the discussion....then he proceeded to edit the Vega article from head to toe last night but I didn't revert anything that helps article....then he opens up a discussion incidents for adminstrators review. He is really out of control. Vegavairbob ( talk) 03:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
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poppet puppet article !!
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I think this is long overdue. I appreciate what you have done and I would like to recognize the efforts of editors that contribute and aren't a part of the Wikiproject Automobile cabal.
( Regushee ( talk) 19:18, 22 April 2009 (UTC))
Hi Typ932. The James Hunt picture looks OK. It's definitely a McLaren M26 and number 7 is the right number for the 1978 British GP (he drove an M23 with number 11 in the 1976 race). I'll update the description of the Lauda pic at commons. DH85868993 ( talk) 10:04, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Typ932,
I am pleased to see that you have used my monobook script; I hope you've found it useful.
This is to let you know that ArbCom has announced a temporary injunction against the "mass delinking of dates". You can still delink dates on an occasional basis; however, you may wish to be cautious and use the script only for its non-date functions until the issue is resolved by an RFC poll. You may wish to express your view on autoformatting and date linking in the RFC at: Wikipedia:Date_formatting_and_linking_poll.
Regards Lightmouse ( talk) 17:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
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Article of the month -
2008 German Grand Prix, current Good Article Candidate.
The 2008 German Grand Prix (formally the LXVIII Großer Preis Santander von Deutschland) was a Formula One motor race held on July 20, 2008 at the Hockenheimring, Hockenheim, Germany. It was the 10th race of the 2008 Formula One season. The race, contested over 67 laps, was won by Lewis Hamilton for the McLaren team after starting from pole position. Nelson Piquet, Jr. finished second in a Renault car, with Felipe Massa third in a Ferrari. Hamilton maintained his startline advantage and led until he made his first pit stop on lap 18. As other cars made their pit stops, Hamilton regained the lead on lap 22. On lap 36 Timo Glock crashed, and the race was neutralized by the deployment of the safety car. Hamilton, on a two-stop strategy, did not stop to get more fuel during this period, while all the cars around him did. Thus when he did eventually stop on lap 50, he rejoined the race in fifth. In the closing stages of the race, Hamilton overtook first his team-mate Heikki Kovalainen, then Massa, and finally Piquet, to take the lead again on lap 60, which he maintained to win the race. The victory was Hamilton's second consecutive win, having won the preceding British Grand Prix at Silverstone. The win put him ahead of his two main rivals in the Drivers' Championship, Kimi Räikkönen (who finished sixth) and Massa of Ferrari, who were on equal points with him before the race. After the race he was four points ahead of Räikkönen, and seven ahead of Massa. In the Constructors' Championship, McLaren drew closer to the two teams ahead of them, BMW Sauber and Ferrari. Ferrari still led by 15 points from McLaren, and 12 from BMW, whose drivers – Nick Heidfeld and Robert Kubica – finished fourth and seventh respectively. ( More...) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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* Sebastian Vettel (3rd, 1:35.518) got a 10 place grid penalty for his collision with Kubica at the previous Grand Prix.
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– Cs-wolves (talk) 12:12, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I just went through and restored revisions prior to User:Jmcd88's edits on the Saturn-related articles. Because no definitive decision has yet been reported regarding the company or its models, we should revert and not {{ fact}} tag speculative edits until reliable sourcing confirms actual decisions have been made. user:j (aka justen) 06:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
'ello,
Just so you know, the reason why I put that in is so another editor doesn't try to dispute the information, tag it and then try to remove it, claiming there are no in-text citations. I got the info from Japawikipedia and that's the source.
Cheers( Regushee ( talk) 21:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC))
This is what the 2008 automotive statistics say so i just revised it. That's all.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdatinguinoo96 ( talk • contribs) 04:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
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Article of the month -
2008 Bahrain Grand Prix, new
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The 2008 Bahrain Grand Prix (formally the V Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on April 6, 2008 at the Bahrain International Circuit, in Sakhir, Bahrain. It was the third race of the 2008 Formula One season. The race, contested over 57 laps, was won by Felipe Massa for the Ferrari team. Kimi Räikkönen was second in the other Ferrari, and BMW Sauber driver Robert Kubica was third. The race began with Kubica in pole position alongside Massa; Lewis Hamilton, the eventual Drivers' Champion, started from third, alongside Räikkönen. Kubica was passed by Massa into the first corner, and then by Räikkönen on the third lap. The Ferraris dominated at the front of the race, leading to their one-two finish. Hamilton had a slow start after almost stalling on the grid, and dropped back to ninth. The McLaren driver ran into the back of Fernando Alonso's Renault a lap later, breaking off the McLaren's front wing and dropping Hamilton to the back of the field. Kubica's strong finish promoted BMW Sauber to the lead in the Constructors' Championship, after BMW driver Nick Heidfeld finished fourth. Ferrari and McLaren trailed, one and two points behind, respectively. Räikkönen took the lead in the Drivers' Championship, with 19 points, three points ahead of Heidfeld and five ahead of Hamilton, Kubica and Kovalainen, with 15 races remaining in the season. ( More..) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Chubb enna itor 19:42, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I saw in this diff that you added an "accessmonthday" and/or "accessdaymonth" parameter. Please be informed that these are deprecated. The preferred way is to put day, month, and year together in the "accessdate" parameter. Thank you, Debresser ( talk) 02:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello- Thanks for the cool star. I like it!! I also like your work. Regards, Vegavairbob ( talk) 01:34, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
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Great page and newsletter. Vegavairbob ( talk) 14:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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I model my edits from yours! Nice work. Regards Vegavairbob ( talk) 14:51, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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2008 Turkish Grand Prix, new
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The 2008 Turkish Grand Prix (formally the IV Petrol Ofisi Turkish Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on May 11, 2008 at the Istanbul Racing Circuit, Istanbul, Turkey. It was the fifth race of the 2008 Formula One season. The race, contested over 58 laps, was won by Felipe Massa for the Ferrari team after starting from pole position. Lewis Hamilton finished second in a McLaren, with Kimi Räikkönen third in the second Ferrari. Massa claimed pole, with teammate Räikkönen fourth, the two Ferrari cars sandwiching the McLarens of Heikki Kovalainen and Hamilton. At the first corner Räikkönen clipped Kovalainen's rear tyre and gave him a puncture. The safety car was deployed on the first lap, after a collision, but only remained out for one lap. During the course of the race, Hamilton, intending to make one more pit stop than both Ferrari drivers, was faster than Massa due to carrying a lighter fuel load and overtook him on lap 24. After Hamilton had made his third pit stop, he rejoined in second behind Massa but in front of the Championship leader, Räikkönen. Massa won the race, with Hamilton 3.779 seconds behind, and Räikkönen a further half-second behind. The two BMW Sauber cars of Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld took fourth and fifth. In the week running up to the grand prix, the Super Aguri team had withdrawn from Formula One, due to financial problems, leaving the sport with only ten teams. Massa's victory was his third consecutive pole position and victory in Turkey, having also won the race from pole in 2006 and 2007. This was also Rubens Barrichello's 257th Grand Prix start, breaking Riccardo Patrese's previous record of 256. Due to the race result, Räikkönen's lead in the Drivers' Championship was lowered to seven points. Massa rose to second from fourth, whilst Hamilton dropped to third, both drivers tying on 28 points but separated by Massa's two wins thus far to Hamilton's one. In the Constructors' Championship, Ferrari increased their lead to 22 points ahead of BMW Sauber, with McLaren a further two points behind in third. ( More...) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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– Cs-wolves (talk) 01:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Regarding you reverting my good faith edits in the article, Fiat. i have got two refrences that say that Fiat and Tata were to build Global Pick Up and the Fiat Terra/Tata Xenon is that vehicle. It is assembled in a renault factory in argentina and in a tata factory in thailand. if you are satisfied then ill add the info again.-- Enthusiast10 ( talk) 08:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Isnt this for defunct companies, not companies that doesnt make trucks anymore? -- Typ932 T· C 15:02, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
I closed your second nomination of Category:2010s automobiles for deletion. This was deleted about 3 weeks ago, so lacking any new compelling information it is simply way to soon for a new nomination. Vegaswikian ( talk) 22:15, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Check the wiki of Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles. So yes, it is a separate brand and marque of Volkswagen! And also check their website: http://www.volkswagen-commercial-vehicles.com So do not remove it! Schalkcity ( talk) 18:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello- I changed entire article to past tense. At first I left the intro in present. Which way should the article be? Vegavairbob ( talk) 02:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Please do not replace Wikipedia pages with blank content, as you did to Furiosa. Blank pages are harmful to Wikipedia because they have a tendency to confuse readers. If it is a duplicate article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If the page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please the page and replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please see the deletion policy for how to proceed. -- Allen3 talk 17:26, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
before inserting tags in diesel engine aticle read understand and corrolate refs pls 24.235.241.17 ( talk) 02:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
not happening nearly as much in continental europe Wdl1961 ( talk) 17:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Straight-four engine article name should be changed to Inline-four engine, and in text sometimes referred to as Straight-4.(article is the reverse and text says sometimes referred to as inline-4). An inline-4 engine is rarely if ever referred to as a straight-4 engine. "Straight" designation is used to describe an inline-6 (straight-6) and straight-8 (50's). The designation carried over to the sixties for the six cylinder engines but not to the 70's for the four cylinder engines. I haven't seen Straight-four except on this site. It is not the proper designation for an inline four engine, and was probably only chosen because of the article writer's individual preference and/or the same writer as other "Straight engine" articles. How is the title edited. Vegavairbob ( talk) 22:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
The information I've contributed from wikis from other languages is now under dispute because it wasn't contributed by people who speak english. The user is called Biker Biker. ( Regushee ( talk) 16:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC))
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Thanks from all for the hard work you do and your help too! Vegavairbob ( talk) 20:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC) |
Hello- How are you. This guy Scheinwerfermann..... In a discussion to change an article title I opened Straight-four engine he didn't like my comments on the talk page...he opened up a full page lecture right on the article talk page!!!!check it out (by the way I didn't know you couldn't message other editors to vote and i apologised on the talk page and in the discussion....then he proceeded to edit the Vega article from head to toe last night but I didn't revert anything that helps article....then he opens up a discussion incidents for adminstrators review. He is really out of control. Vegavairbob ( talk) 03:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
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