Hi Tortfeasor, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you have enjoyed editing as much as I did so far and decide to stay. Unfamiliar with the features and workings of Wikipedia? Don't fret! Be Bold! Here's some good links for your reference and that'll get you started in no time!
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- How to write a great article, to make it an featured article status.
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There are a number of ways to do this.
For example, typing [http://www.website.com/article.htm name of reference] in the article while editing will get you name of reference. If you don't know the name of the article, or it's not relevant, simply typing [http://www.website.com/article.htm] will get you [1], where the number is related to the unnamed verification citations.
As for the POV, I took that based on repeated checking of the IP addresses, and the responses of other editors, as well as the un"informed" (i.e., no edit summary) edits of most of the ones you did. By using the edit summary and citations, it should substantiate your statements a lot more. And don't forget to type--~~~~ on the talk pages, so that way people will know who to talk to.
Hope this helps and again, welcome to the Wiki! ^_^-- み使い Mitsukai 07:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Apologies on that, I had actually went to bed for the night (it was 2 am here, and it had been a long day). Wikipedia is a global medium, and I don't know where you're typing from, so that doesn't mean that it's an instant response. I myself have waited days for a response to conversations with other editors. It doesn't mean that they're ignoring you, it just means they work on a different schedule.
Anyways, on to your concerns.
While in many cases keeping an NPOV in an article is presenting a balanced viewpoint, in many "controversial" cases, as with history and whatnot, a seperate section or even an entirely different article may be called for. You may wish to create a section within the article entitled controversy, or even (in the case of kokkok), work on the article there to explain what are other discussions ongoing between kokkok vs. magatama beliefs. And if you have been putting in the in-line references, then there should be discussions between you and the other editors on the talk pages or user pages regarding that. You may also want a neutral party to come in an take a look at things for a different opinion.
In regards to deletion as a means of suppressing information, that may be another editor's way of trying to keep POV (unfortunately, despite the rules, not everyone's playing with the same rulebook). My advice there is to restore what you can and if you've got citations to back it up with, there shouldn't be a problem. Then look at the article history, and if its continually being edited by someone with an IP address, you can either ask them to get an account here (so they can back up their information) or stop vandalizing the article. As you told me yourself, they may not be here to vandalize the article and may just be here to present a NPOV. There's got to be a happy medium somewhere.
As for citations of magatama, there are some missing as well there, and that needs to be corrected, so I'm going to look into that over the course of the next few days and see what I can do to correct it. IRT the Yayoi period, you may be correct in that as well, I'm going to have to do some research as well on that and see what the other editors are up to.
I hope this information helps.-- み使い Mitsukai 17:15, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
welcome. it may seem like there are a lot of rules to know, but as long as you've digested WP:NPOV, WP:V, & WP:NOR, you are encouraged to WP:Be Bold, & learn as you go along.
these are some of the tools i find helpful for korea-related topics:
as far as kokkok, if you register an email address, i can send you the britannica & encarta articles for reference, if you'd like. also note that wikipedia uses Revised romanization of Korean, so kokkok needs to be renamed eventually, i'm not sure to what, maybe Gok-ok? you can probably ask User:Wikipeditor.
images are sort of a pain, "fair use" is less preferred than liberally licensed images, which are hard to come by. you'll have to read a bit, beginning with the welcome package of links above, but eventually you'll get to [2], where the "licensing" drop-down list summarizes your options. Appleby 08:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, read your comments on the talk page; however, it's going to take me a day or two to get back to you as I'm swamped both in Wiki and real life. Rest assured, however, I will get back to you. Thanks again for your interest and insight.-- み使い Mitsukai 06:22, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/Reln275/Jap-Kor-art.htm
http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1898&st=30&p=4699872&
User:Visviva has worked hard to create a brand new Portal:Korea. Please take a look & contribute if you can. I think the new Template:Korea topics has the potential to be a more useful reference tool than categories or lists, if editors continue to expand and update it. It's also a good reminder for help & requests on ye olde notice board. Hopefully, this will help revive some activity all around. Appleby 22:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
1) First, do you think this conversation would be more constructive if Eirikr facilitated it in a language that you are more comfortable in?
2) Secondly, I don't think there are a problem with the sources cited in the article unless you can explain to me how they are bad.
2.1) On the other hand, you are insisting that western sources are "customized" to the South Korean point of view. Please explain how that is so.
2.2) Let me reiterate, we won't be going anywhere if you insist on your own subjective interpretation of the sources instead of citing credible, English analysis of the ancient sources.
3) I agree that the organization could be better and I think both versions of "Ruling Class" can fit better.
4) Right now your complaints seem to be organizational complaints (and I agree they can be made to flow better) and citation complaints (of which I think you have the burden to provide credible, English citations because I already have done so). If you can agree those are the problems and I am not misunderstanding you, I am happy to help work towards a consensus.
5) Let me know what you think.
Tortfeasor
18:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
However, please think about the priority level.
-- Kamosuke 07:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Tortfeasor 00:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I read your message. First of all, nice good job the articles concerning Korean national treasures =). As for some of the articles though, we should try to find a shorter English name. If we can't find one in common usage, we could be creative, I think. I know the Chinese name for diamond sutra is really long, but they shortened it down with the English name. Also, I've looked at Korean gov't sites, and they don't really seem to help in this situation. Look at this for example. I'll try to see what I can do =). Regards, Deiaemeth 05:42, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your hard work on the national treasures. Good stuff! (Say, if you've got the time, I know of another list you could work on :-) ).
I'm not really hip to the details of image policy, but in general fair use images are frowned upon because a) they cannot be freely reused, which is contrary to the core mission of Wikipedia, and b) the claims to fair use are often dangerously tenuous. Consult Wikipedia:Fair use for the full story.
Re the treasure pictures specifically ... Photographs of 2D works of art are generally considered public domain -- per current US case law -- provided that the artwork is more than 100 years old. The basic reasoning is that a photo of a painting contains no more original content than a photocopy. In such cases we can just use {{ pd-art}}. But recent photos of 3D works of art are not public domain, regardless of the artwork's age, because the 2D representation of a 3D work involves a significant amount of photographic judgement (similar to a new translation of an ancient text). Thus our claim to be able to use such images is no more solid than our claim to be able to use promotional photographs or corporate logos -- and possibly less so.
On the other hand, it's unlikely that a national museum would object to having images of its prized holdings distributed, as long as the museum website is credited as the source. So the actual legal hazard here is probably quite small.
Bottom line for me: Fair use images in general make me edgy, but as long as the source is documented and the rationale is clear, I'm reluctant to remove them. It is nice to have illustrations. Of course, it's even nicer to have illustrations that don't come with legal problems attached....
Hope that helps, and thanks again for contributions. -- Visviva 14:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Good work with Seokgatap. I've been aiming at writing that article for a while but I'm glad someone did.
But the real reason I'm writing is because I want to let you know I've proposed a merge with Dabotap. I've explained the reason for it ( Discuss). You're very welcome to comment on it.
Luccas, 15 July 2024
looks like both are good to go. "attribution" and "attribution-share-alike" are the two acceptable licenses. it's tough finding good images, i'm beginning to think that the only solution is for a wikipedian to just get his/her butt into some museums with a camera. Appleby 16:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
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The constant stream of Japanese vandalism following each other around to revert is getting ridiculous. Is this how Wikipedia is supposed to work? Don't the admins read the discussions or enforce policy? Every time I log on to add to an article, I just end up chasing vandalism, and get nothing done. The vandals hardly speak English, as you can see from their edits, so it's not like we can have a rational discussion or try mediation. So, this is it? Dollarfifty 10:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
about east sea, no problem at all about your restarting discussions. with people like fagstein & bridesmill, it seemed like we could have reasonable agreements & disagreements, & make some progress, but now it seems like we're back to circular sophistry. oh well, hope springs eternal.
i think a couple editors are americans/canadians in korea, but i think it might be a tough sell to get them to take pics & upload & all that. if they were interested enough, they would've probably participated in the portal or somesuch.
that's some amazing work you're doing on korean cultural stuff. that's more constructive than the countless reverts bogging me down. but hey, if i don't do it, the terrorists will have won, as they say. :-) tentative sites, i guess should be in a new category. in the template, though, i think one link to the list of tentatives would be enough; not a separate tentative template, & not all the tentatives in the main template. i hope i understood your question.
when i see all these nice articles being created, my one concern is that not enough people know they exist. very few people will directly search for the individual cultural object or site, i imagine, most will browse & stumble into them from broader articles. i think it's really important that your new pages get linked from as many relevant articles as possible, but i just never get around to doing the links myself. some day, when hell freezes over & east sea redirects properly. :-)
have you considered making a list on your user page of all the articles you created? Appleby 01:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Tortfeasor, I respect the fact that you love Korean cultural heritages, but a site on the Tentative List of the World Heritage Site is simply not the same thing as a World Heritage Site, and therefore shouldn't be put in the same category (cateogrize it as a UNESCO World Heritage Site would be inaccurate). While I don't disagree with the fact that you want others to know about these sites, but creating articles (and acknowledging it for having been put on the Tentative List by the South Korean government) for every Korean Tentative sites is kind of "excessive". Countries like Italy, China, France... have many many sites on the Tentative Lists (some have over 70 sites (say like Italy)), but no users creat templates for their Tentative sites nor is it necessary to do so. -- Bergmanesque 07:36, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I actually translated information on a few hundred relics in that museum (I think it was that museum anyway) from Korean to English, so that's a bit of a coincidence. Isn't it forbidden to take pictures inside a museum though? I remember someone being told not to take pictures the last time I went to the Museum of Art here, though that was for a Picasso show so maybe that was different. I can ask around though and see if anyone else has tried. I still have my files on the pieces there that I translated but I haven't thought about turning them into articles here or on our wiki yet I suppose because it's not crucial to life here and for the time being I'm working on that. I could probably send the files to anyone who's interested though. Mithridates 03:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
i'm a complete beginner with photoshop elements, & this is the best i could do: [7]. what do you think? Appleby 03:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Tortfeasor, I award you this here RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar in recognition and appreciation of your tireless efforts to defend Japanese history articles from those who would deny Korean influence and involvement. It is truly a never-ending task and a more or less thankless job. Thank you. LordAmeth 19:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC) |
I didn't realize I flipped the 18 BC/AD, thanks for catching it! I had been looking at other changes and it slipped by. Good eyes! Komdori 21:54, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the appreciation. I hope WikiProject Korea can help improve Korea related articles. =D Good friend100 21:21, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the good Bangudae article! It's an important site. Have you perchance seen Professor Im Se-gwon's work on the interpretation of of the individual carvings? Prof. Son Bo-gi used to suggest that they could have been carved in the Palaeolithic! ㅋ There is also one fairly recent English publication called Proceedings and Discussions on Ulsan Rock Art. I used a copy obtained through inter-library loans from UC Berkeley. It says it was published in 2000 by 울산광역시 and the "Seoul Arts Centre". Mumun 14:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
hi Tortfeasor. Nice to hear from you. Thank you for pointing out the photos! I will have to upload some and make use of them... Mumun 11:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryuch#Hi - Ryuch
Hey, another Dokdo naming dispute has arisen, & RM has taken place. Please check archive for previous discussions & pariticipate in the vote. Thanks. I'm also going to note all others who participated in the previous poll. ( Wikimachine 18:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC))
FYI: this site, on the tentative list of Korea for World Heritage Listing has been officially accepted as part of the World Heritage List, under the name "Jeju Volcanic Island and Lava Tubes". Hence, the template link can already be moved in the Korean WHS template. Also, we might as well move the article to a new one, bearing the official name as inscribed in the UNESCO list. Thanks. 202.57.35.55 02:07, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tortfeasor. I know the "Pensive Maitreya" in the Guimet Museum you are mentionning, but I don't think I have photographed it yet. I'll take a picture of it next time I can visit the Museum, about 6 weeks from now. Best regards. PHG 20:44, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tortfeasor. I had it after all. Here it is. Best regards. PHG 12:42, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tortfeasor. Sorry, I don't know about the number for the Maiteya in the Tokyo National Museum... maybe next time I go there. By the way do you have the one from the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York? I happen to have a photograph of it (but no number there as well). Regards. PHG ( talk) 09:49, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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Hello Tortfeasor, I would like to talk to you soon about publishing your article on Korean Buddhist Sculpture. It is a great article. I look forward to hearing from you.
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Hello Tortfeasor- I would like to talk to you soon about publishing your article on Korean Buddhist Sculpture. It is a great article. I look forward to hearing from you. Koreanart ( talk) 15:17, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Tortfeasor, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you have enjoyed editing as much as I did so far and decide to stay. Unfamiliar with the features and workings of Wikipedia? Don't fret! Be Bold! Here's some good links for your reference and that'll get you started in no time!
- Editing tutorial, learn to have fun with Wikipedia.
- Picture tutorial, instructions on uploading images.
- How to write a great article, to make it an featured article status.
- Manual of Style, how articles should be written.
Most Wikipedians would prefer to just work on articles of their own interest. But if you have some free time to spare, here are some open tasks that you may want to help out :
Oh yes, don't forget to sign when you write on talk pages, simply type four tildes, like this: ~~~~. This will automatically add your name and the time after your comments. And finally, if you have any questions or doubts, don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Once again, welcome! ^_^ -- み使い Mitsukai 06:56, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
There are a number of ways to do this.
For example, typing [http://www.website.com/article.htm name of reference] in the article while editing will get you name of reference. If you don't know the name of the article, or it's not relevant, simply typing [http://www.website.com/article.htm] will get you [1], where the number is related to the unnamed verification citations.
As for the POV, I took that based on repeated checking of the IP addresses, and the responses of other editors, as well as the un"informed" (i.e., no edit summary) edits of most of the ones you did. By using the edit summary and citations, it should substantiate your statements a lot more. And don't forget to type--~~~~ on the talk pages, so that way people will know who to talk to.
Hope this helps and again, welcome to the Wiki! ^_^-- み使い Mitsukai 07:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Apologies on that, I had actually went to bed for the night (it was 2 am here, and it had been a long day). Wikipedia is a global medium, and I don't know where you're typing from, so that doesn't mean that it's an instant response. I myself have waited days for a response to conversations with other editors. It doesn't mean that they're ignoring you, it just means they work on a different schedule.
Anyways, on to your concerns.
While in many cases keeping an NPOV in an article is presenting a balanced viewpoint, in many "controversial" cases, as with history and whatnot, a seperate section or even an entirely different article may be called for. You may wish to create a section within the article entitled controversy, or even (in the case of kokkok), work on the article there to explain what are other discussions ongoing between kokkok vs. magatama beliefs. And if you have been putting in the in-line references, then there should be discussions between you and the other editors on the talk pages or user pages regarding that. You may also want a neutral party to come in an take a look at things for a different opinion.
In regards to deletion as a means of suppressing information, that may be another editor's way of trying to keep POV (unfortunately, despite the rules, not everyone's playing with the same rulebook). My advice there is to restore what you can and if you've got citations to back it up with, there shouldn't be a problem. Then look at the article history, and if its continually being edited by someone with an IP address, you can either ask them to get an account here (so they can back up their information) or stop vandalizing the article. As you told me yourself, they may not be here to vandalize the article and may just be here to present a NPOV. There's got to be a happy medium somewhere.
As for citations of magatama, there are some missing as well there, and that needs to be corrected, so I'm going to look into that over the course of the next few days and see what I can do to correct it. IRT the Yayoi period, you may be correct in that as well, I'm going to have to do some research as well on that and see what the other editors are up to.
I hope this information helps.-- み使い Mitsukai 17:15, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
welcome. it may seem like there are a lot of rules to know, but as long as you've digested WP:NPOV, WP:V, & WP:NOR, you are encouraged to WP:Be Bold, & learn as you go along.
these are some of the tools i find helpful for korea-related topics:
as far as kokkok, if you register an email address, i can send you the britannica & encarta articles for reference, if you'd like. also note that wikipedia uses Revised romanization of Korean, so kokkok needs to be renamed eventually, i'm not sure to what, maybe Gok-ok? you can probably ask User:Wikipeditor.
images are sort of a pain, "fair use" is less preferred than liberally licensed images, which are hard to come by. you'll have to read a bit, beginning with the welcome package of links above, but eventually you'll get to [2], where the "licensing" drop-down list summarizes your options. Appleby 08:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, read your comments on the talk page; however, it's going to take me a day or two to get back to you as I'm swamped both in Wiki and real life. Rest assured, however, I will get back to you. Thanks again for your interest and insight.-- み使い Mitsukai 06:22, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/Reln275/Jap-Kor-art.htm
http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1898&st=30&p=4699872&
User:Visviva has worked hard to create a brand new Portal:Korea. Please take a look & contribute if you can. I think the new Template:Korea topics has the potential to be a more useful reference tool than categories or lists, if editors continue to expand and update it. It's also a good reminder for help & requests on ye olde notice board. Hopefully, this will help revive some activity all around. Appleby 22:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
1) First, do you think this conversation would be more constructive if Eirikr facilitated it in a language that you are more comfortable in?
2) Secondly, I don't think there are a problem with the sources cited in the article unless you can explain to me how they are bad.
2.1) On the other hand, you are insisting that western sources are "customized" to the South Korean point of view. Please explain how that is so.
2.2) Let me reiterate, we won't be going anywhere if you insist on your own subjective interpretation of the sources instead of citing credible, English analysis of the ancient sources.
3) I agree that the organization could be better and I think both versions of "Ruling Class" can fit better.
4) Right now your complaints seem to be organizational complaints (and I agree they can be made to flow better) and citation complaints (of which I think you have the burden to provide credible, English citations because I already have done so). If you can agree those are the problems and I am not misunderstanding you, I am happy to help work towards a consensus.
5) Let me know what you think.
Tortfeasor
18:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
However, please think about the priority level.
-- Kamosuke 07:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Tortfeasor 00:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I read your message. First of all, nice good job the articles concerning Korean national treasures =). As for some of the articles though, we should try to find a shorter English name. If we can't find one in common usage, we could be creative, I think. I know the Chinese name for diamond sutra is really long, but they shortened it down with the English name. Also, I've looked at Korean gov't sites, and they don't really seem to help in this situation. Look at this for example. I'll try to see what I can do =). Regards, Deiaemeth 05:42, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your hard work on the national treasures. Good stuff! (Say, if you've got the time, I know of another list you could work on :-) ).
I'm not really hip to the details of image policy, but in general fair use images are frowned upon because a) they cannot be freely reused, which is contrary to the core mission of Wikipedia, and b) the claims to fair use are often dangerously tenuous. Consult Wikipedia:Fair use for the full story.
Re the treasure pictures specifically ... Photographs of 2D works of art are generally considered public domain -- per current US case law -- provided that the artwork is more than 100 years old. The basic reasoning is that a photo of a painting contains no more original content than a photocopy. In such cases we can just use {{ pd-art}}. But recent photos of 3D works of art are not public domain, regardless of the artwork's age, because the 2D representation of a 3D work involves a significant amount of photographic judgement (similar to a new translation of an ancient text). Thus our claim to be able to use such images is no more solid than our claim to be able to use promotional photographs or corporate logos -- and possibly less so.
On the other hand, it's unlikely that a national museum would object to having images of its prized holdings distributed, as long as the museum website is credited as the source. So the actual legal hazard here is probably quite small.
Bottom line for me: Fair use images in general make me edgy, but as long as the source is documented and the rationale is clear, I'm reluctant to remove them. It is nice to have illustrations. Of course, it's even nicer to have illustrations that don't come with legal problems attached....
Hope that helps, and thanks again for contributions. -- Visviva 14:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Good work with Seokgatap. I've been aiming at writing that article for a while but I'm glad someone did.
But the real reason I'm writing is because I want to let you know I've proposed a merge with Dabotap. I've explained the reason for it ( Discuss). You're very welcome to comment on it.
Luccas, 15 July 2024
looks like both are good to go. "attribution" and "attribution-share-alike" are the two acceptable licenses. it's tough finding good images, i'm beginning to think that the only solution is for a wikipedian to just get his/her butt into some museums with a camera. Appleby 16:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
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The constant stream of Japanese vandalism following each other around to revert is getting ridiculous. Is this how Wikipedia is supposed to work? Don't the admins read the discussions or enforce policy? Every time I log on to add to an article, I just end up chasing vandalism, and get nothing done. The vandals hardly speak English, as you can see from their edits, so it's not like we can have a rational discussion or try mediation. So, this is it? Dollarfifty 10:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
about east sea, no problem at all about your restarting discussions. with people like fagstein & bridesmill, it seemed like we could have reasonable agreements & disagreements, & make some progress, but now it seems like we're back to circular sophistry. oh well, hope springs eternal.
i think a couple editors are americans/canadians in korea, but i think it might be a tough sell to get them to take pics & upload & all that. if they were interested enough, they would've probably participated in the portal or somesuch.
that's some amazing work you're doing on korean cultural stuff. that's more constructive than the countless reverts bogging me down. but hey, if i don't do it, the terrorists will have won, as they say. :-) tentative sites, i guess should be in a new category. in the template, though, i think one link to the list of tentatives would be enough; not a separate tentative template, & not all the tentatives in the main template. i hope i understood your question.
when i see all these nice articles being created, my one concern is that not enough people know they exist. very few people will directly search for the individual cultural object or site, i imagine, most will browse & stumble into them from broader articles. i think it's really important that your new pages get linked from as many relevant articles as possible, but i just never get around to doing the links myself. some day, when hell freezes over & east sea redirects properly. :-)
have you considered making a list on your user page of all the articles you created? Appleby 01:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Tortfeasor, I respect the fact that you love Korean cultural heritages, but a site on the Tentative List of the World Heritage Site is simply not the same thing as a World Heritage Site, and therefore shouldn't be put in the same category (cateogrize it as a UNESCO World Heritage Site would be inaccurate). While I don't disagree with the fact that you want others to know about these sites, but creating articles (and acknowledging it for having been put on the Tentative List by the South Korean government) for every Korean Tentative sites is kind of "excessive". Countries like Italy, China, France... have many many sites on the Tentative Lists (some have over 70 sites (say like Italy)), but no users creat templates for their Tentative sites nor is it necessary to do so. -- Bergmanesque 07:36, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I actually translated information on a few hundred relics in that museum (I think it was that museum anyway) from Korean to English, so that's a bit of a coincidence. Isn't it forbidden to take pictures inside a museum though? I remember someone being told not to take pictures the last time I went to the Museum of Art here, though that was for a Picasso show so maybe that was different. I can ask around though and see if anyone else has tried. I still have my files on the pieces there that I translated but I haven't thought about turning them into articles here or on our wiki yet I suppose because it's not crucial to life here and for the time being I'm working on that. I could probably send the files to anyone who's interested though. Mithridates 03:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
i'm a complete beginner with photoshop elements, & this is the best i could do: [7]. what do you think? Appleby 03:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Tortfeasor, I award you this here RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar in recognition and appreciation of your tireless efforts to defend Japanese history articles from those who would deny Korean influence and involvement. It is truly a never-ending task and a more or less thankless job. Thank you. LordAmeth 19:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC) |
I didn't realize I flipped the 18 BC/AD, thanks for catching it! I had been looking at other changes and it slipped by. Good eyes! Komdori 21:54, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the appreciation. I hope WikiProject Korea can help improve Korea related articles. =D Good friend100 21:21, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the good Bangudae article! It's an important site. Have you perchance seen Professor Im Se-gwon's work on the interpretation of of the individual carvings? Prof. Son Bo-gi used to suggest that they could have been carved in the Palaeolithic! ㅋ There is also one fairly recent English publication called Proceedings and Discussions on Ulsan Rock Art. I used a copy obtained through inter-library loans from UC Berkeley. It says it was published in 2000 by 울산광역시 and the "Seoul Arts Centre". Mumun 14:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
hi Tortfeasor. Nice to hear from you. Thank you for pointing out the photos! I will have to upload some and make use of them... Mumun 11:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryuch#Hi - Ryuch
Hey, another Dokdo naming dispute has arisen, & RM has taken place. Please check archive for previous discussions & pariticipate in the vote. Thanks. I'm also going to note all others who participated in the previous poll. ( Wikimachine 18:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC))
FYI: this site, on the tentative list of Korea for World Heritage Listing has been officially accepted as part of the World Heritage List, under the name "Jeju Volcanic Island and Lava Tubes". Hence, the template link can already be moved in the Korean WHS template. Also, we might as well move the article to a new one, bearing the official name as inscribed in the UNESCO list. Thanks. 202.57.35.55 02:07, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tortfeasor. I know the "Pensive Maitreya" in the Guimet Museum you are mentionning, but I don't think I have photographed it yet. I'll take a picture of it next time I can visit the Museum, about 6 weeks from now. Best regards. PHG 20:44, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tortfeasor. I had it after all. Here it is. Best regards. PHG 12:42, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tortfeasor. Sorry, I don't know about the number for the Maiteya in the Tokyo National Museum... maybe next time I go there. By the way do you have the one from the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York? I happen to have a photograph of it (but no number there as well). Regards. PHG ( talk) 09:49, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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Hello Tortfeasor, I would like to talk to you soon about publishing your article on Korean Buddhist Sculpture. It is a great article. I look forward to hearing from you.
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Hello Tortfeasor- I would like to talk to you soon about publishing your article on Korean Buddhist Sculpture. It is a great article. I look forward to hearing from you. Koreanart ( talk) 15:17, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
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