Hi. Could it be that you are less important to me than you think you are? Let me ask you again to leave my user page alone. I wouldn't dream of changing yours. Whenever you delete your name you just prove my point that you'd like to rewrite history. Face the facts and don't avoid responsibility for your own actions. Wikikiwi, Agony Aunt, 1 May 2004
Hi Timwi, I see that you have shunted many links that previously pointed to
South Caucasian languages so that they now point to
Georgian (Kartvelian) languages.
Thanks for the work, but unfortunately the
South Caucasian languages page had been moved inappropriately. The names "Georgian" and "Kartvelian" for that family appear to be less used in English literature than "South Caucasian". Moreover, they are somewhat politically charged (while the Georgian/Kartvelian language is the most important member of the group, and three of the four languages are spoken mostly in Georgia, the fourth language is spoken almost only in Turkey, by people who also speak Turkish and consider themselves Turkish citizens). It may also be historically inaccurate, since those languages apparently split apart well before the country got that name. I have asked for the
redirect to be deleted so that the
full page can be moved back.
All the best,
Jorge Stolfi
15:10, 2 May 2004 (UTC)
You commented on one of the LoPbN WM: items,
Fair question. IIRC, it had to do with the effects of combining several pages of partial table markup (which you edited, i assume to move the breaks) by a series of subst: calls, and then pasting that combined markup into a single MW: page that will be called via msg:. Roughly, new-lines that were needed in the markup invoked by the msg: call were getting lost, and the breaks avoided the "collapsing" of the markup into something that no longer worked right, IIRC without any negative effect.
I don't remember if it is the pasting that makes a difference, but at the time, an extra paste step, documenting the effect of the history of changes of the component pages' changing content, seemed worthwhile.
All that was before i read of the changes in, what is it, 1.3?, that will affect these macro facilities, which is why i never finished documenting the method: when we can nest msg: calls, i expect that the breaks will no longer be needed (or if they are, at least that you and i will be able to agree on the need).
Let's both remember to experiment and/or talk when 1.3 goes into production here(was that 2:00-3:00 today??!!!) and see if we aren't then in agreement on how to get from the pages, e.g.,
to the page
IMO, the breaks are not worth discussing before then; even if you were just irrationally irritated by them (which i doubt), and even if (to keep my head straight) i have to put them back into the Separator and the Bottom you presumably stripped them from, i'd be happy to hand-remove them from, e.g.
before saving them.
Will that cover us for now? If not, say so & let's talk further; and i can probably stand to put off the need to generate more breaks in the meantime.
Tnx for the query. -- Jerzy (t) 07:57, 2004 May 12 (UTC)
Tnx for the info, which i can apply in satisfying your apparent standards. -- Jerzy (t) 19:04, 2004 May 12 (UTC)
I just did Numbers in various languages and List of tongue-twisters for the Albanian ones. Let me know how they came out. Also, I see you still haven't done the German numbers :) Dori | Talk 18:19, May 18, 2004 (UTC)
Hi there, since I saw you registered as a translator I would like to know if you are interested in this. I have written a program for learning vocabulary. It is based on the belief that it is best to learn foreign words by learning typical sentences. I currently have files in English, French (with sound), Spanish, and Portuguese, Catalan is in the planning. The program can also be used for learning other stuff that works with the question/answer scheme, e.g. the theory for the driving licence or anatomy. It also uses images and sound files for alternation and in order to work on the pronunciation. If you are interested please check my page and let me know. Good luck with the exams. Get-back-world-respect 00:52, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
Would you please move the page Space Cruiser Yamato to Space Battleship Yamato for me? I've determined that the latter is the proper Americanization of the name of the anime series, but I can't movie it because the former already exists as a redirect to the latter. I see you're an admin, so you have the capability to swap these, right? If you'll do that for me then I'll go correct all the references in that article and in articles which link to it. Brian Kendig 20:23, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
Never mind, I found someone else to make the swap. Brian Kendig 14:06, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
I've been told that you might be able to help me format the page Canadian federal election, 2004 (candidates) so that the Green Party (we're running a candidate in all 308 ridings) has its own column in the tables. If the table is fixed, I can make sure that Canadian Greens fill in the details. (They'll need thier own column for results, eventually). Thanks in advance! I'm very interested in the Wikipedia concept, but not adept at understanding or writing code...
Howdy. I just learned that you run a bot to eliminate double-redirects. Unaware of this I've created a report of double redirects in the May 22nd database dump. It seems to have picked up a fair number of them. If your bot's active, it may be the case that I'm using a slightly different mechanism than yourself.
See the list at User:Topbanana/Reports/This_is_a_double_redirect, happy to discuss or swap notes if you're keen. - TB 09:22, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
Why did you remove the sort algorithms table? The category-only layout removes useful information (classification of algorithms by complexity) and degrades overview and ability to navigate. Unless the category system can be improved to display as much information, it should be used as a complement, not as a replacement. Fredrik 21:40, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
Hi. Could it be that you are less important to me than you think you are? Let me ask you again to leave my user page alone. I wouldn't dream of changing yours. Whenever you delete your name you just prove my point that you'd like to rewrite history. Face the facts and don't avoid responsibility for your own actions. Wikikiwi, Agony Aunt, 1 May 2004
Hi Timwi, I see that you have shunted many links that previously pointed to
South Caucasian languages so that they now point to
Georgian (Kartvelian) languages.
Thanks for the work, but unfortunately the
South Caucasian languages page had been moved inappropriately. The names "Georgian" and "Kartvelian" for that family appear to be less used in English literature than "South Caucasian". Moreover, they are somewhat politically charged (while the Georgian/Kartvelian language is the most important member of the group, and three of the four languages are spoken mostly in Georgia, the fourth language is spoken almost only in Turkey, by people who also speak Turkish and consider themselves Turkish citizens). It may also be historically inaccurate, since those languages apparently split apart well before the country got that name. I have asked for the
redirect to be deleted so that the
full page can be moved back.
All the best,
Jorge Stolfi
15:10, 2 May 2004 (UTC)
You commented on one of the LoPbN WM: items,
Fair question. IIRC, it had to do with the effects of combining several pages of partial table markup (which you edited, i assume to move the breaks) by a series of subst: calls, and then pasting that combined markup into a single MW: page that will be called via msg:. Roughly, new-lines that were needed in the markup invoked by the msg: call were getting lost, and the breaks avoided the "collapsing" of the markup into something that no longer worked right, IIRC without any negative effect.
I don't remember if it is the pasting that makes a difference, but at the time, an extra paste step, documenting the effect of the history of changes of the component pages' changing content, seemed worthwhile.
All that was before i read of the changes in, what is it, 1.3?, that will affect these macro facilities, which is why i never finished documenting the method: when we can nest msg: calls, i expect that the breaks will no longer be needed (or if they are, at least that you and i will be able to agree on the need).
Let's both remember to experiment and/or talk when 1.3 goes into production here(was that 2:00-3:00 today??!!!) and see if we aren't then in agreement on how to get from the pages, e.g.,
to the page
IMO, the breaks are not worth discussing before then; even if you were just irrationally irritated by them (which i doubt), and even if (to keep my head straight) i have to put them back into the Separator and the Bottom you presumably stripped them from, i'd be happy to hand-remove them from, e.g.
before saving them.
Will that cover us for now? If not, say so & let's talk further; and i can probably stand to put off the need to generate more breaks in the meantime.
Tnx for the query. -- Jerzy (t) 07:57, 2004 May 12 (UTC)
Tnx for the info, which i can apply in satisfying your apparent standards. -- Jerzy (t) 19:04, 2004 May 12 (UTC)
I just did Numbers in various languages and List of tongue-twisters for the Albanian ones. Let me know how they came out. Also, I see you still haven't done the German numbers :) Dori | Talk 18:19, May 18, 2004 (UTC)
Hi there, since I saw you registered as a translator I would like to know if you are interested in this. I have written a program for learning vocabulary. It is based on the belief that it is best to learn foreign words by learning typical sentences. I currently have files in English, French (with sound), Spanish, and Portuguese, Catalan is in the planning. The program can also be used for learning other stuff that works with the question/answer scheme, e.g. the theory for the driving licence or anatomy. It also uses images and sound files for alternation and in order to work on the pronunciation. If you are interested please check my page and let me know. Good luck with the exams. Get-back-world-respect 00:52, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
Would you please move the page Space Cruiser Yamato to Space Battleship Yamato for me? I've determined that the latter is the proper Americanization of the name of the anime series, but I can't movie it because the former already exists as a redirect to the latter. I see you're an admin, so you have the capability to swap these, right? If you'll do that for me then I'll go correct all the references in that article and in articles which link to it. Brian Kendig 20:23, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
Never mind, I found someone else to make the swap. Brian Kendig 14:06, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
I've been told that you might be able to help me format the page Canadian federal election, 2004 (candidates) so that the Green Party (we're running a candidate in all 308 ridings) has its own column in the tables. If the table is fixed, I can make sure that Canadian Greens fill in the details. (They'll need thier own column for results, eventually). Thanks in advance! I'm very interested in the Wikipedia concept, but not adept at understanding or writing code...
Howdy. I just learned that you run a bot to eliminate double-redirects. Unaware of this I've created a report of double redirects in the May 22nd database dump. It seems to have picked up a fair number of them. If your bot's active, it may be the case that I'm using a slightly different mechanism than yourself.
See the list at User:Topbanana/Reports/This_is_a_double_redirect, happy to discuss or swap notes if you're keen. - TB 09:22, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
Why did you remove the sort algorithms table? The category-only layout removes useful information (classification of algorithms by complexity) and degrades overview and ability to navigate. Unless the category system can be improved to display as much information, it should be used as a complement, not as a replacement. Fredrik 21:40, 30 May 2004 (UTC)