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Hello, Tim
First all, I would like to express my sincere appreciation to you for your handling of the case at
WP:ARBEE. You have assisted in keeping a large part of Wikipedia from being defaced.
Now, for the request:
Quite a while ago, I first noticed that no changes could be made to the page
Mass killings under Communist regimes. I saw no reason to complain about what was clearly a necessary and conensus-based decision. The topic is a controversial one. I briefly left a comment on the article's talk page, inquiring how the page was to be maintained. I surprised as I received largely apathetic reactions that suggested no action was planned for the near future. Still, I held onto my conviction that it was a the best we could do, relying on the extensive arbitration case.
And yet, it has now been 4 years since
full protection was applied to the article, and 7-8 years since WP:ARBEE was opened. I know "the theory behind the full protection is that it will not stop all progress in developing the article", and I have not changed my sympathetic views on the ARBEE decision (nor am I accusing anyone involved of inappropriate judgment), but progress has left the article little further than it was in 2011. Since then, changes have for the most part been restricted to lay-out fixes, tag adds and removes, and/or source updates - see
here. This is perhaps the only political controversy-page in all of Wikipedia that is effectively carved in stone. Consensus requests have been attempted - ineffectively. According to one Wikipedian, his previous attempts to request an Administrator's attention were blocked by one other editor. I fear the article has simply become too vulnerable to
stonewalling. I took a look at some of the most (likely to be) vandalized articles on the Wiki (
Israel conflict,
Russia in Ukraine,
Gamergate,
Hitler,
Muhammad etc.) but found each of these articles under only
semi-protection. Furthermore, none of the
other articles affected by ARBEE have maintained a full protection.
Finally, WP:NO-PREEMPT argues:
Pre-emptive full protection of articles is contrary to the open nature of Wikipedia. Brief periods of full protection are used in rare cases when a large number of autoconfirmed accounts are used to make a sustained vandalism attack on an article. Persistent vandalism, or the possibility of future vandalism for highly trafficked articles, rarely provides a basis for full-protection. Semi-protection is used for articles, such as Jesus, that have a pattern of heavy sustained vandalism.
Based on the provided rationale, I hereby fervently request a reduction in protection level on the article
Mass killings under Communist regimes — from full protection to semi-protection — so we can attempt to restore an article that has become dated with time.
Thanks in advance,
Bataaf van Oranje (
talk) 22:10, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Timotheus. If Kissle still works on Wikipedia, I'd love to utilize it for new page patrolling. I already do lots of anti-vandal work around Wikipedia; see my CSD log and my userrights. Cheers, Kevin12 x d 16:14, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Timotheus
Doug Weller is an administrator that I believe has made a boo boo. I told him this on his talk page and he then recruited a talkpagestalker for some presumably unknown purpose. (What is a talk page stalker and why does WP have them?
So I picked you (randomly) to ask you to read his talk page and then perhaps tell me to chill and perhaps tell me to apologize. Thank you Raggz ( talk) 04:07, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
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Hello, Tim
First all, I would like to express my sincere appreciation to you for your handling of the case at
WP:ARBEE. You have assisted in keeping a large part of Wikipedia from being defaced.
Now, for the request:
Quite a while ago, I first noticed that no changes could be made to the page
Mass killings under Communist regimes. I saw no reason to complain about what was clearly a necessary and conensus-based decision. The topic is a controversial one. I briefly left a comment on the article's talk page, inquiring how the page was to be maintained. I surprised as I received largely apathetic reactions that suggested no action was planned for the near future. Still, I held onto my conviction that it was a the best we could do, relying on the extensive arbitration case.
And yet, it has now been 4 years since
full protection was applied to the article, and 7-8 years since WP:ARBEE was opened. I know "the theory behind the full protection is that it will not stop all progress in developing the article", and I have not changed my sympathetic views on the ARBEE decision (nor am I accusing anyone involved of inappropriate judgment), but progress has left the article little further than it was in 2011. Since then, changes have for the most part been restricted to lay-out fixes, tag adds and removes, and/or source updates - see
here. This is perhaps the only political controversy-page in all of Wikipedia that is effectively carved in stone. Consensus requests have been attempted - ineffectively. According to one Wikipedian, his previous attempts to request an Administrator's attention were blocked by one other editor. I fear the article has simply become too vulnerable to
stonewalling. I took a look at some of the most (likely to be) vandalized articles on the Wiki (
Israel conflict,
Russia in Ukraine,
Gamergate,
Hitler,
Muhammad etc.) but found each of these articles under only
semi-protection. Furthermore, none of the
other articles affected by ARBEE have maintained a full protection.
Finally, WP:NO-PREEMPT argues:
Pre-emptive full protection of articles is contrary to the open nature of Wikipedia. Brief periods of full protection are used in rare cases when a large number of autoconfirmed accounts are used to make a sustained vandalism attack on an article. Persistent vandalism, or the possibility of future vandalism for highly trafficked articles, rarely provides a basis for full-protection. Semi-protection is used for articles, such as Jesus, that have a pattern of heavy sustained vandalism.
Based on the provided rationale, I hereby fervently request a reduction in protection level on the article
Mass killings under Communist regimes — from full protection to semi-protection — so we can attempt to restore an article that has become dated with time.
Thanks in advance,
Bataaf van Oranje (
talk) 22:10, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Timotheus. If Kissle still works on Wikipedia, I'd love to utilize it for new page patrolling. I already do lots of anti-vandal work around Wikipedia; see my CSD log and my userrights. Cheers, Kevin12 x d 16:14, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Timotheus
Doug Weller is an administrator that I believe has made a boo boo. I told him this on his talk page and he then recruited a talkpagestalker for some presumably unknown purpose. (What is a talk page stalker and why does WP have them?
So I picked you (randomly) to ask you to read his talk page and then perhaps tell me to chill and perhaps tell me to apologize. Thank you Raggz ( talk) 04:07, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Sunday August 2, 1-7pm: WikNYC Picnic | |
---|---|
You are invited to join us the "picnic anyone can edit" in Brooklyn's Prospect Park, as part of the Great American Wiknic celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means potluck.
We hope to see you there! -- Pharos ( talk) 03:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC) (Bonus event: WikiWednesday Salon @ Babycastles - Wednedsay, August 19) |
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