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-- Kumioko ( talk) 21:19, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I responded on my talk page. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I wanted to drop you a note about your edit here. While I definitely appreciate your willingness to help, unblock requests should be reviewed by an admin. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks! TN X Man 15:39, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey Tim. I think we have both uploaded photos at commons:Category:Wikipedia Takes Boston. I noticed that some of yours are marked 'this file is lacking source information', for instance commons:File:Boston Public Library Egleston Square.jpg. Probably it just needs to have 'own work' added. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 22:29, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
I am very new to this and I'm not sure why the information I've added too French Paper Company and Charles S. Anderson Design have been omitted. I am just stating the facts. I've read the "advertising" and "soapbox" guidelines and I don't see how I am treading on Wiki's policies. Any information you may have depicting proper guidelines will be greatly appreciated. Jovaney ( talk) 23:06, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Sure! First of all, Wikipedia has a strict policy against using copyrighted material. The additions to French Paper Company appear to be taken directly from http://www.frenchpaper.com/about_french.asp, and the additions to Charles S. Anderson Design come directly from http://www.csadesign.com/about.html. On that basis alone, these changes can't be accepted in the encyclopedia -- they cannot be duplications of copyrighted material that appear elsewhere on the web.
More generally: Wikipedia's inclusion policy requires, among other things, that articles be written from a neutral point of view, using objective language, and that everything must be verifiable in reliable sources. So here are some examples of contributions which don't fit those criteria:
I hope these examples make it clearer what needs to be done. If it's still unclear, please feel free to let me know and I'll do my best to help. —Tim Pierce ( talk) 00:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. It is a little clearer. I still have some questions pertaining to what can be noted. Can books + periodicals online and written be cited as well? Secondly, what if one is contributing to wikipedia about a particular company and one obtains the permission to use the information that a given company may have displayed on their website? Can one just cite the website as a source of legitimate information? Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jovaney ( talk • contribs) 18:11, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Greetings Tim,
As per your answer to my help post, here are some links of news stations & magazines who helped promote the events. Please let me know if you need more. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HELP!
http://www.local10.com/slideshow/entertainment/27364865/detail.html
http://top40-charts.com/news.php?nid=65343
http://www.okmagazine.com/2011/03/take-a-picture-with-justin-biebers-hair-to-benefit-japan/
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Picture-Day-With-Justin-prnews-2453677978.html?x=0&.v=1
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/03/box_of_justin_biebers_hair_yes.php
http://tartemag.blogspot.com/2011/03/music-justin-beibers-picture-day-hair.html
http://the305.com/2011/03/28/justin-biebers-hair-in-miami/
http://www.justin-b.org/2011/04/picture-day-with-justin-biebers-hair/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cranegamelia ( talk • contribs) 20:56, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Tim. I've been doing some delayed processing of the Wikipedia Takes Boston results. However, I can't find images of some goals you mentioned as completed on that page. Here are the goals you mentioned, with notes on if I cannot find corresponding images among your contributions to Commons here:
Do you know if you perhaps missed these while uploading? Am I not looking in the right place? I tried finding possible uploads by User:Dbs on Commons, but had no luck. Thanks, Emw ( talk) 02:49, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
all I ever try and do is contribute fair and honestly and people like you confuse the hell out of me. I get a message from you that the "facts" i had put on the Saint Augustines College, CAirns page relating to the arrest of several Marist Brothers, was supported by actual fact including newpspaer reports etc, you send me some message it wasn't good enough, but when I go to the page its all still there. Put any of those names into google and you will get plenty more credible real news sources. The nesparers I originally quoted dont get any more credible then that. The Catholic Churches own newspaper is pretty credible one would think??? I dont understand people like you or the other people who jump all over me when all I do is try to help. I can't be bother contributing any more and may as well go and delte all my original photos SEE YA Angra ( talk) 11:06, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey Twp, I was saying I am having a web designer do a wiki page that looks good. Yes I am paying them to do it, but because I think the exhibit is large enough and visited enough to warrant one, and I want it to look professional like a wiki page should. So bear with me a couple days. Not a conflict of interest. Just merely wanting to make sure it is up to wiki standards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcdcchef ( talk • contribs) 05:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Here's the thing, I didn't delete anything. If I did, it was accidental. In January, a reporter wrote a very nice feature piece for GBL in the Pittsburgh Tribune Review. She told me as did her editor that GBL should have a wiki page, since so many people use wiki as a resource. I said okay. Had the artist who does my graphic art do the piece. Sounded like a high school creative art major wrote it. Then someone else re-wrote it, sounds good looks like hell. So I emailed wiki for advice, and their advice was wot have someone who is a 3rd party who is good with wiki create the piece. They even agreed it was wiki-worthy, I would be happy to forward you the email. So I went on craigslist, and put out an ad for someone to clean it up, without any feedback from me, make it look like a real wiki entry, and get it live. That is all I am doing. I get that there are those of you out there who do this sort of thing, police wiki and keep it cleaned up, and that is a good thing I must admit. There was a time this place was so jacked up! Anyways, I can assure you, no conflict of interest and doing it the way I was advised to do by wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcdcchef ( talk • contribs) 15:39, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I just undid your recent edit to this talk page. While the article does indeed have two images, they are reproductions of two of his works, not a photo of the subject himself. – ukexpat ( talk) 19:19, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
What are we going to do now they're all gone? I feel lost. ;) - Dave Crosby ( talk) 20:36, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
GingerBread Lane - Tim, working with a wiki admin the last 2 weeks ( Cirt ) and a wiki employee, I think the wiki piece is now meeting all wiki requirements. I did everything I could to avoid any COI issues, and to make it fit wiki standards. You are a notable wikipedian, was hoping I could get you to review piece again and approve. Cirt worked with me 2 weeks to make it appropriate, telling me what needed done. It now has 19 reference points from various news arcticles, online and print pieces, feature photos with news captions, etc. Was hoping to secure your approval on the piece. Kcdcchef ( talk) 23:58, 24 May 2011 (UTC) Kcdcchef ( talk) 00:18, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Tim. I have learned through this process some wiki editors have itchy trigger fingers and rush to delete, and some are more objective. Based on how polite you were to me in this process ( hell, the fact that you fixed my comments in this very thread which were screwed up!!!! ) shows that you are in the "more civil" wiki editor camp! Any thoughts you can provide, will help. I was advised to stay out of the AFD discussion this time, I was specifically told there are at times all delete votes and the piece stays. So I am staying out of there. But last time you were being uber helpful and further offering to fix it. So wanted your feedback now that is fixed. Kcdcchef ( talk) 00:52, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the incredibly nice comments on the GBL AFD, I have completely withdrawn from the whole thing waiting to see what happens, as it so happens today was the first time I even checked on it in days, I fully expected the piece to be deleted by now! Suprisingly, it is holding it's own on the AFD vote. And a couple who vote no said "it has only 1 actual arcticle, and no national". Wow, and they get votes? It has three actual arcticles thank you very much, post, trib, and martha stewart, and Martha Stewart IS national!!! Anyways, thanks for the kind words on GBL. WOrking hard on it as we speak actually. Kcdcchef ( talk) 22:41, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I request that you revist the article Dead Fury, which is undergoing expansion and improvement and which has so far gone from an 11 word stub into a (so far) 559 word start class article to serve the project and its readers. More remains to be done, yes... but the AFD was unneccessary. I request you consider a withdrawal of the nomination. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 01:39, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Tim, you recently rolled back some of my changes. I had added geographical coordinates to web pages, usually in the Geography section. I put them there to maintain consistency with hundreds of other Wikipedia entries I have read, and to add the decimal coordinates for use in genealogy programs, such as GRAMPS. I know the D/M/S information is in the upper right corner, but the entries in the Geography section are consistent with other Wikipedia entries. I do not think you should roll my changes back. My changes prevent other Wikipedia readers having to make the conversion from D/M/S to decimal. MrBill47 ( talk) 14:40, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the link to the conversion tool. While I agree that having the coordinates appear only once is a good idea, because of updates, I still think it is helpful to have them in the geography section too. All an editor will have to do is make sure all locations have the same information. I always compare the coordinates I add to the ones listed in the upper right corner. I use them as the source for the conversion to decimal. I've been writing for almost 40 years and double-checking edits is second nature. There are numerous entries (Bishop, California, for example) in which the coordinates already appear twice. Adding them to the Geography section is more hepful than burdensome. MrBill47 ( talk) 17:25, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I have no idea why you sent me a warning nor do I appreciate your continuing to change my edits of the Prince William County Government page. I am a Public Information Officer for Prince William County Government and I have beeen tasked with updating and correcting the information on the pages. I removed the sentence because to say that the County seat is in a City is incorrect, and later on in the article it mentions that the courhouse is in an enclave owned by the county that is surrounded by the city. This is correct and why I continue to take off the reference to the County seat being in the City of Manassas. How can I possibly have a cite for taking off incorrect information? I will continue in my efforts to correct any erroneous information on my County Government's page, and again I have no idea why you keep changing my work. If you want to email me directly, please feel free to do some at dwolfe@pwcgov.org. Wolfiedw ( talk) 13:16, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
I have no idea what you mean when you say warning, and as I said in my email to you earlier, I am just trying to do the job I am paid to do for the citizens of Prince William County who I am paid to serve. I am not sure why you feel qualified to continue to warn me about facts I know to be inccorect, but I will move on. Wolfiedw ( talk) 14:23, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
-- Kumioko ( talk) 21:19, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I responded on my talk page. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I wanted to drop you a note about your edit here. While I definitely appreciate your willingness to help, unblock requests should be reviewed by an admin. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks! TN X Man 15:39, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey Tim. I think we have both uploaded photos at commons:Category:Wikipedia Takes Boston. I noticed that some of yours are marked 'this file is lacking source information', for instance commons:File:Boston Public Library Egleston Square.jpg. Probably it just needs to have 'own work' added. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 22:29, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
I am very new to this and I'm not sure why the information I've added too French Paper Company and Charles S. Anderson Design have been omitted. I am just stating the facts. I've read the "advertising" and "soapbox" guidelines and I don't see how I am treading on Wiki's policies. Any information you may have depicting proper guidelines will be greatly appreciated. Jovaney ( talk) 23:06, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Sure! First of all, Wikipedia has a strict policy against using copyrighted material. The additions to French Paper Company appear to be taken directly from http://www.frenchpaper.com/about_french.asp, and the additions to Charles S. Anderson Design come directly from http://www.csadesign.com/about.html. On that basis alone, these changes can't be accepted in the encyclopedia -- they cannot be duplications of copyrighted material that appear elsewhere on the web.
More generally: Wikipedia's inclusion policy requires, among other things, that articles be written from a neutral point of view, using objective language, and that everything must be verifiable in reliable sources. So here are some examples of contributions which don't fit those criteria:
I hope these examples make it clearer what needs to be done. If it's still unclear, please feel free to let me know and I'll do my best to help. —Tim Pierce ( talk) 00:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. It is a little clearer. I still have some questions pertaining to what can be noted. Can books + periodicals online and written be cited as well? Secondly, what if one is contributing to wikipedia about a particular company and one obtains the permission to use the information that a given company may have displayed on their website? Can one just cite the website as a source of legitimate information? Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jovaney ( talk • contribs) 18:11, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Greetings Tim,
As per your answer to my help post, here are some links of news stations & magazines who helped promote the events. Please let me know if you need more. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HELP!
http://www.local10.com/slideshow/entertainment/27364865/detail.html
http://top40-charts.com/news.php?nid=65343
http://www.okmagazine.com/2011/03/take-a-picture-with-justin-biebers-hair-to-benefit-japan/
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Picture-Day-With-Justin-prnews-2453677978.html?x=0&.v=1
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/03/box_of_justin_biebers_hair_yes.php
http://tartemag.blogspot.com/2011/03/music-justin-beibers-picture-day-hair.html
http://the305.com/2011/03/28/justin-biebers-hair-in-miami/
http://www.justin-b.org/2011/04/picture-day-with-justin-biebers-hair/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cranegamelia ( talk • contribs) 20:56, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Tim. I've been doing some delayed processing of the Wikipedia Takes Boston results. However, I can't find images of some goals you mentioned as completed on that page. Here are the goals you mentioned, with notes on if I cannot find corresponding images among your contributions to Commons here:
Do you know if you perhaps missed these while uploading? Am I not looking in the right place? I tried finding possible uploads by User:Dbs on Commons, but had no luck. Thanks, Emw ( talk) 02:49, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
all I ever try and do is contribute fair and honestly and people like you confuse the hell out of me. I get a message from you that the "facts" i had put on the Saint Augustines College, CAirns page relating to the arrest of several Marist Brothers, was supported by actual fact including newpspaer reports etc, you send me some message it wasn't good enough, but when I go to the page its all still there. Put any of those names into google and you will get plenty more credible real news sources. The nesparers I originally quoted dont get any more credible then that. The Catholic Churches own newspaper is pretty credible one would think??? I dont understand people like you or the other people who jump all over me when all I do is try to help. I can't be bother contributing any more and may as well go and delte all my original photos SEE YA Angra ( talk) 11:06, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey Twp, I was saying I am having a web designer do a wiki page that looks good. Yes I am paying them to do it, but because I think the exhibit is large enough and visited enough to warrant one, and I want it to look professional like a wiki page should. So bear with me a couple days. Not a conflict of interest. Just merely wanting to make sure it is up to wiki standards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcdcchef ( talk • contribs) 05:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Here's the thing, I didn't delete anything. If I did, it was accidental. In January, a reporter wrote a very nice feature piece for GBL in the Pittsburgh Tribune Review. She told me as did her editor that GBL should have a wiki page, since so many people use wiki as a resource. I said okay. Had the artist who does my graphic art do the piece. Sounded like a high school creative art major wrote it. Then someone else re-wrote it, sounds good looks like hell. So I emailed wiki for advice, and their advice was wot have someone who is a 3rd party who is good with wiki create the piece. They even agreed it was wiki-worthy, I would be happy to forward you the email. So I went on craigslist, and put out an ad for someone to clean it up, without any feedback from me, make it look like a real wiki entry, and get it live. That is all I am doing. I get that there are those of you out there who do this sort of thing, police wiki and keep it cleaned up, and that is a good thing I must admit. There was a time this place was so jacked up! Anyways, I can assure you, no conflict of interest and doing it the way I was advised to do by wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcdcchef ( talk • contribs) 15:39, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I just undid your recent edit to this talk page. While the article does indeed have two images, they are reproductions of two of his works, not a photo of the subject himself. – ukexpat ( talk) 19:19, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
What are we going to do now they're all gone? I feel lost. ;) - Dave Crosby ( talk) 20:36, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
GingerBread Lane - Tim, working with a wiki admin the last 2 weeks ( Cirt ) and a wiki employee, I think the wiki piece is now meeting all wiki requirements. I did everything I could to avoid any COI issues, and to make it fit wiki standards. You are a notable wikipedian, was hoping I could get you to review piece again and approve. Cirt worked with me 2 weeks to make it appropriate, telling me what needed done. It now has 19 reference points from various news arcticles, online and print pieces, feature photos with news captions, etc. Was hoping to secure your approval on the piece. Kcdcchef ( talk) 23:58, 24 May 2011 (UTC) Kcdcchef ( talk) 00:18, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Tim. I have learned through this process some wiki editors have itchy trigger fingers and rush to delete, and some are more objective. Based on how polite you were to me in this process ( hell, the fact that you fixed my comments in this very thread which were screwed up!!!! ) shows that you are in the "more civil" wiki editor camp! Any thoughts you can provide, will help. I was advised to stay out of the AFD discussion this time, I was specifically told there are at times all delete votes and the piece stays. So I am staying out of there. But last time you were being uber helpful and further offering to fix it. So wanted your feedback now that is fixed. Kcdcchef ( talk) 00:52, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the incredibly nice comments on the GBL AFD, I have completely withdrawn from the whole thing waiting to see what happens, as it so happens today was the first time I even checked on it in days, I fully expected the piece to be deleted by now! Suprisingly, it is holding it's own on the AFD vote. And a couple who vote no said "it has only 1 actual arcticle, and no national". Wow, and they get votes? It has three actual arcticles thank you very much, post, trib, and martha stewart, and Martha Stewart IS national!!! Anyways, thanks for the kind words on GBL. WOrking hard on it as we speak actually. Kcdcchef ( talk) 22:41, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I request that you revist the article Dead Fury, which is undergoing expansion and improvement and which has so far gone from an 11 word stub into a (so far) 559 word start class article to serve the project and its readers. More remains to be done, yes... but the AFD was unneccessary. I request you consider a withdrawal of the nomination. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 01:39, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Tim, you recently rolled back some of my changes. I had added geographical coordinates to web pages, usually in the Geography section. I put them there to maintain consistency with hundreds of other Wikipedia entries I have read, and to add the decimal coordinates for use in genealogy programs, such as GRAMPS. I know the D/M/S information is in the upper right corner, but the entries in the Geography section are consistent with other Wikipedia entries. I do not think you should roll my changes back. My changes prevent other Wikipedia readers having to make the conversion from D/M/S to decimal. MrBill47 ( talk) 14:40, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the link to the conversion tool. While I agree that having the coordinates appear only once is a good idea, because of updates, I still think it is helpful to have them in the geography section too. All an editor will have to do is make sure all locations have the same information. I always compare the coordinates I add to the ones listed in the upper right corner. I use them as the source for the conversion to decimal. I've been writing for almost 40 years and double-checking edits is second nature. There are numerous entries (Bishop, California, for example) in which the coordinates already appear twice. Adding them to the Geography section is more hepful than burdensome. MrBill47 ( talk) 17:25, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I have no idea why you sent me a warning nor do I appreciate your continuing to change my edits of the Prince William County Government page. I am a Public Information Officer for Prince William County Government and I have beeen tasked with updating and correcting the information on the pages. I removed the sentence because to say that the County seat is in a City is incorrect, and later on in the article it mentions that the courhouse is in an enclave owned by the county that is surrounded by the city. This is correct and why I continue to take off the reference to the County seat being in the City of Manassas. How can I possibly have a cite for taking off incorrect information? I will continue in my efforts to correct any erroneous information on my County Government's page, and again I have no idea why you keep changing my work. If you want to email me directly, please feel free to do some at dwolfe@pwcgov.org. Wolfiedw ( talk) 13:16, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
I have no idea what you mean when you say warning, and as I said in my email to you earlier, I am just trying to do the job I am paid to do for the citizens of Prince William County who I am paid to serve. I am not sure why you feel qualified to continue to warn me about facts I know to be inccorect, but I will move on. Wolfiedw ( talk) 14:23, 21 June 2011 (UTC)