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As you are member of the wikiproject Spain and I've seen that you have collaborated in many articles of history about the Iberian Peninsula, Portugal, etc, you may be interested on helping me to reform the article Hispanic. My main goal is to end with the idea that "hispanic" is equivalent to "south american", so I am introducing a few sections to the article Hispanic, to explain the great missunderstanding about talking of "hispanic" as a synonym of castilian-speaking (forgetting the basques, portugueses, catalans, etc), and I'm also adding a small section to explain the history of Hispania from its roman times, etc. So you may wanna extend some section. I'm doing it because I couldn't suffer the fact that the 90% of the article Hispanic was talking about the so-called latinos of the U.S. and so on, while the word "catalan" just appeared once. Onofre Bouvila 22:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi there! Who can I ask about editing my contributions pages, since they have removed some of them? Thx! Cercia (aka Novice Wikipedian).
Sorry I mean they removed some of my edits that I made (reset the article) and I get confused when I look at the contributions list and it still says that I made an edit. Is there a way I can rearrange the logs on a special page? Cercia (aka Novice Wikipedian).
I've reformed the Iberians article, and added quite a lot of information, pictures, restructurated the sections, etc. Visit the post I created at its talk page if you wish.
More specifically, I'm here because I've seen that you have created lots of articles about ancient Iberian tribes ( Ilergetes, Cassetani, etc). If you could group them all (also the Celtiberian tribes, there are lots of stub-articles about them, dunno if it was you too who created them), so if you could group them all, and put them all in a category called like "Ancient Iberian Tribes" or something like that, and also link them all from the Iberians article, it would be kinda cool.
I've tryed to do it, but there are too many article-stubs about these ancient tribes and I probably miss them all. But as you've created the articles, I bet you'll be able to do it.
Thanks.
Onofre Bouvila 21:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello! I removed this info because I created The Roman Catholic Church and Colonialism article where it is included. Because of the length of colonialism, I believed this was necessary for editorial consensus. However, I am rather of your POV that it should be included anyway, and the "Church & Colonialism" article improved and extended. Lapaz 16:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
This might be of some interest. Velho 23:27, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Fellow-WikiPedian, This thing came up: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Where Troy Once Stood. Would you like to vote? Antiphus 20:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Caro Peço-lhe desculpa pela maneira como me dirigi a si no meu primeiro post.E agradeço-lhe a mensagem que me enviou. No fundo, partilhamos o mesmo ponto de vista.No entanto, acredito que a influencia negra na populaçao é bastante superior á sofrida em qualquer outro pais europeu,sendo a mistura entre culturas algo que define a cultura portuguesa. Lembre-se da nossa história,dar novos mundos ao mundo, tudo isso e etc,a expansão maritima está profundamente marcada na cultura do povo portugues, é isso que os distingue dos outros europeus.se não está, deveria estar. Foi por isso que insisto tanto em se manter lá a influencia africana. De resto, ainda nos nossos dias, se viajar pelas regiões de Alcacer do Sal e Coruche, bem sabe que a influencia africana nessas populaçoes é mais que evidente ao "olho nu". Cumprimentos 00:42, 1 November 2006 (UTC) Vieirasimoes
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Some people continue erasing verifiable and up-dated information in the Spanish People's article about recently published books pointing to a strong link between Iberia and Atlantic Europe. Those books are Blood of the Isles, by Bryan Sykes, Origins of Britons, by Stephen Oppenheimer and Deep Ancestry, by Spencer Wells. What do you think of it? Veritas et Severitas 17:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, user Burgass has done it again. Just look at this user's constant and strange behaviour in this article. Veritas et Severitas 18:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Please look at Burgass' attitude in the Spanish article.
Veritas et Severitas 20:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi ogre
You are right in everything you asked and said:
1 - it is about the campaigns of Afonso de Albuquerque which I'll call Luso-Islamic War.
2 - The info is wrong because I just copied the infobox of my "dutch-portuguese war" and planed to chnage the details.
Unfortunately I haven't had the time.
Hoje, não, porra. Mesmo depois, confesso que ainda me dará um bocado de trabalho...
Sabes que isto de ler a língua das línguas não é para todos (os dias)...
Velho 02:23, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey, Ogre, what do you think we should do about Señor Usuario Anonimo's changes to falcata? For the reasons I explained on the talk page I am in favor of just reverting, possibly incorporating some of the better stuff from the Spanish article he was translating afterwards. But I don't want to do so without some sort of consensus, for obvious reasons. -- Iustinus 21:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Man, this guy is really getting on my nerves. I don't understand why he thinks he needs to be so nasty either. -- Iustinus 01:35, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Your comment:
I removed it probably because I'm being a touch over-sensitive! If you think it belongs, please do re-add it! I see that you're a member of WikiProject Portugal, but you're being very helpful in adding the WikiProject Spain tag to the caliphs . . . thank you! Would you like to join WikiProject Spain as well? ;) PS: I see what you mean about there being more Afghan tags on the caliphs! Espana Viva 15:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh, also, I've got to ask you . . . are you using a bot to add all those WikiProject Portugal tags, or are you doing those manually! (The Afghan tags all showed because a bot added those tags too broadly). Espana Viva 15:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Pá, vai a Talk:Scouting aderir ao que eu escrevi! Há um featured article só a dizer bem dos fascistas dos escuteiros! Irra!! Velho 02:24, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
AMO-TE —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.193.84.127 ( talk) 18:41, 9 February 2007 (UTC).
I did see the developments on talk:falcata, so hopefully he'll stay calm now. It's funny you should come to me with some Latin: a friend of mine, seeing the research work you'd done on Fulgosio was impressed, and thought you would be a good candidate for la: if you know some Latin ;) Anyway, now's a bad time, but I'll take a look at your quote when I get home. -- Iustinus 21:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
You are correct. I have moved this page. Thanks for pointing it out. My source also says Pires so it 100% my fault. Must be 'old age' on my behalf. It makes sense, Pires is a much more successful google search too! thanks Merbabu 01:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
¡Bienvenido(a) to WikiProject Spain! We look forward to your contributions. If you already have a project in mind, please feel free to contribute. If you would like a suggestion, please contact me on my discussion page. Again, welcome! Espana Viva 18:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your kind note.-- Brownlee 23:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Só um gajo muito avariado é que anda a espalhar welcomes à bruta por todo o lado.... Velho 20:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
for the welcome message! omes 20:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Listen guy, give me a break here. I know alot of Portuguese people, and I only know one who has MIXED blonde shades. No one in Portugal has lightest blodne shades seen in northern Europe and there is now ay that 20% of the whole country has blonde hair ? Have yo uever been there ? There is NO way the country has that much blondes and I would bet my life on that. England barely has that percentage even though the majority of people there are of pale complexion. DOn't be riduloucs. The website you referenced is a joke. Portugal has one of the highest percetnages of darker complexions in all of Europe, and the smallest in lighter complexions.
Dear Orge, thank you very much for you warm welcome :) I also edit on Basque Wikipedia. Again thank you! Euskera 15:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm re-opening up your concerns of Jorge Sampaio being on a list of Jews. Since he says he's not one, WP:BLP supports your position. If you want to continue the debate please comment on it. Mehmeda 02:50, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
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The Ogre,
Thanks for your interest in my proposal. I have responded on the Talk page. J i m p 20:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Porra, o mapa ficou fabuloso! Confesso que preferia amarelo em vez de cor-de-rosa, para se ver melhor, mas era só isso!
Cervejolas logo?
Velho 17:43, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello there. Thanks for your interest. i replied on the article in question (and reverted sorry). By the way, i do love the map. Nice work indeed. But, there might be one dot that needs a change of colour. Pink i suggest, not read. he he. Some weeks ago i did a bit of work on Portuguese explorers, and their presence in Indonesia. I will pass the links on to you shortly. I have a question though, why was the Portuguese Empire article split? Ie, to the "Evolution of..." article. ciao for now. -- Merbabu 13:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Just for your information, or to share with anyone else who may be interested: as i mentioned earlier, a few weeks back I wrote a bit about the Portuguese in Indonesia across a number of articles. There's probably more that can be done in this area. These articles included:
Soon I would like to summaries this info into a single consolidated article. Merbabu 05:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Ouve, tou na Germânia Superior! Num portátil ínfimo. Como é que te posso defender, puerra?! Velho 18:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Caro Ogre, percebi que mudastes a grafia de "Francisco Antonio Doria" para "Francisco Antônio Dória". Apesar da última grafia ser a correta em Português, na certidão do professor Doria consta "Antonio Doria", sem acentos. Acredito que a razão seja a grafia Italiana, origem de sua família. Em tempo: em minha dissertação de mestrado escrevi o nome do professor Doria com acento (ele foi meu orientador), e ele imediatamente corrigiu a grafia. Você teria como reverter o título da página para o original? Obrigado, Acacio de Barros. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 171.64.22.40 ( talk) 17:53, 9 April 2007 (UTC).
Stop introducing lies in Wiki. Nowhere in Portugal is Rb1 90%. The only area is in the Basque country in Spain. 65.11.114.84 16:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Again, 65.11.114.84, and as a follow up to our "discussions" regarding the map of the Spanish Empire... Let me tell you again that it is quite annoying, to say the least, to have to discuss these or any other subjects with someone who prefers to stay anonymous and uses several different IP adresses. If you have something to contribute to Wikipedia on a regular basis why don't you register as a permanent user? Secondely, you are not assuming my good faith. If you check my contributions and profile you may be able to see the serious and open minded attitude I have regarding any subject, you may also note that I am a member of WikiProject Portugal and WikiProject Spain. I have no nationalistic agenda of any sort, and am, in fact, quite opposed to such agendas. Contrary to you, I do not wish to attack you personally, by calling you a liar, manipulator or a nationalistic something (even if your insistance, contrary to well known and established facts, in saying that the Spanish Empire included the Portuguese Empire between 1580-1640 is quite suspicious to me...) - Please! No personal attacks! If you want to discuss something, let us do it in a civilised and calm manner. Regarding the present issue of the percentages of R1B, I am, by no means, an expert or even someone with more than a superficial knowledge on these subjects. I reverted your edits because I am generally suspicious of anonymous unregistered users who seem to be forcing an agenda on several articles and basically delete information that has been in those articles for some time, without anyone disputing it. Now, regarding the statemente that "Haplotype R1b exceeds 90% of Y-chromosomes in parts of Wales, Ireland and Spain. [2] [3] [4]", I believe that the links presented do not prove any such things for those countries (and in wich "parts" of those countries?). Futhermore, the samples are quite small and non-representative of overall populations (and believe me, if you will, I do know population sampling and statistics!). What I do know is that R1b is of Iberian origin and represents the majority of Iberian populations' Y lineages, in any part of Iberia, with a concentration in the areas of the Basque country. My edit did not intend to erase Spain from that polemic statement of the 90% - I must admit I reversed because you had deleted Portugal, I did not notice that Spain disapeared from the version I saved... I admit my fault! So, my friend, calm down. And do not treat others as villains until they prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they are so. Thank you. The Ogre 15:30, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Mas ouve lá, pá, o mapa inicial até distingue bem as coisas portuguesas, dizendo que o são. O que lá te chateia é a expressão «Spanish Empire»? Velho 22:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Ogre, I've made some changes in the Definition on the Sp Emp page and a change to the anachronous map by putting in Spanish-Portuguese monarchs in place of Spanish sovereign. Please check them out and hopefully we can put some of these disputes to rest. Cheers Provocateur 02:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Could you please comment my proposal on the article's talk page?
Best wishes, -- PaxEquilibrium 21:27, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
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I'm trying to redirect Mike Freeman to Mike_Freeman_(disambiguation). Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page says to replace content with
#REDIRECT [[Mike_Freeman_%28disambiguation%29]]
at the top of the page, but I get a numbered list item instead. What's the trick? Elphion 08:30, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Also, I see from Help that I should have moved Mike Freeman to Mike Freeman (football) rather that copied it, in order to preserve the page history. Can this be fixed at this point? (and after the move, can one then create a new Mike Freeman that redirects to the disambiguation page?) I suppose another solution would be to add a dab reference to the top of the current Mike Freeman page and junk my copy at Mike Freeman (football) Elphion 09:33, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Dear Ogre: my name, as it appears in my birth certificate, has no accents. Reason? Basically my parents felt that the use of accents (diacriticals) in Portuguese was so unstable that avoiding them was the best policy. (Of course the Doria family has spelt it as Doria for the last four centuries or so, as the documnts show it, both in Brazil and in Italy.) So please do correct it.
Also, I use the no-accent-name in all my publications. As some search engines are diacritical-sensitive, if people look for my name with a diacritical, they will find no references...
Best,
Francisco Antonio Doria
Hi, I insert some correct and impartial modifications in Hilda Toledano page: 1- the libel suit in Italy against Guy Stair Sainty "It is nothing whatsoever to do with the merits of the case nor the claims of Mr Poidimani which have not even been addressed by the court as yet" . Infact these are Stair Sainty words and you can see this here [5]. So I insert this also in Guy Stair Sainty page. 2- I have added a external link concerning the violence against the Royal House of Portugal, Constitutional Line by the Brazialian Culture Journal. In Duarte Pio of Braganza page I insert an important (and famous in Portugal) critique web site of Duarte and this news: “On March 17, 2007 the portuguese press reported the news that after the People's Monarchist Party president (Nuno da Camera Pereira) charge there will be a criminal trial against Mr Duarte Pio of Braganza for theft and unlawful use of the "São Miguel da Ala" Order. [6]” but the Duarte Pio supporters continue to delete this. Why?This is only a vandalism against the freedom of opinions. I insert also in pretender page the truth about: “ Maria Pia of Saxe Coburg Braganza, was the ( illegitimate daughter of Carlos I of Portugal. In the 1982 the Sacred Roman Rota confirmed her baptisimal documents with the paternity of the king and the presence of a document signed by King Carlos granting her the rights of the princes of Portugal.” But always a miguelist supporter continue to delete this and put his libellous version. I am also disgusted that this people insert Hilda Toledano as name of her wikipedia article and not her real name Maria Pia of Saxe Coburg Braganza. This is their method in order to discredit this pretender... Is possible and correct for you in a democratyc encycloepdia this censorship against this lady and her heir in favour of Duarte Pio? I hope you can see that my contributiones are not vandalism but based only in objective facts....My best regards, Manuel de Sousa
Hi, I'm trying to make a map of the Treaty of Tordesillas and Saragossa lines, showing briefly how they affected the history of the people living in the territories of the Portuguese and Spanish empires. (Unfortunately I probably won't be able to contribute this map to Wikipedia, because the graphic designer working on this project with me has a vector map that he prefers to work from that has licensing incompatible with Wikipedia illustrations... but maybe we can do another version if we find a better-licensed base map.) Anyway, I'm wondering where you got the information for your very thorough historical map of the Portuguese empire. Trying to show the colonial possessions of Spain and Portugal has turned into a difficult challenge, partly because they varied so much over time, and partly because they don't quite correspond to present-day national borders. Do you have a source or a reference you could point me to for the map you produced (and perhaps equivalent information for the Spanish empire)? Do you think it would be more edifying to see the treaty lines drawn against the eventual colonial territories, or against the current national borders of the Lusophone and Hispanophone countries? Thanks! Schoen 23:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your welcome to the wikipedia in english. I hope to contribute specially in heraldry and in spanish matters. Nice to meet you here. -- Ignaciogavira 18:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
By the way: I have removed the coat of arms in the article about the Spanish Empire and changed it for the only common arms in all the period: the small arms of Castile, Leon and Granada, surrounded by the Golden Fleece and crowned by an open crown. The other was the coat of arms of the Presidio National Park in San Francisco Bay, not the Spanish Empire coat of arms. -- Ignaciogavira 18:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Vem aqui: Talk:Portuguese_grammar#Spanish_vs._Castilian. Velho 18:50, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
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I don't know what a British isles point of view is, but clearly yours is a biased one. The article works on the assumption of "people" not political borders, we have had this argument again and again. The iberians were not celtic, but iberian. A distinct and seperate ethnic grouping, which is why they have their own sub grouping but do not appear in the "list of Celtic peoples". The celts that were in Iberia, being covered by the list of Gallic celts, or Celtiberians, make the need for a new section irrelevant. If you wish to begin a revert war, and seek a third party juridiction, ok. It is not about the "evidence", it is merely about the necessary format of the article. Ciriii 16:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
There is now an expanded list of Iberian tribes etc that may be a compromise...if you couldedit it and put the relevant info like place names and also the maps on theer I think iut should be ok now. Ciriii 16:51, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
No, no not your former version, the one now, if it suits both parties. Because the information on other contemporaries is there, but some other information for the reader I see as a compromise. In future, please do not use terms like "british point of view"; it is unecessarily inflammatory and highly sterotypical from someone who doesn't know my views. I apologiese for acalling you bias. Thank you for making the edits. Is it possible to find a better map of the British isles and Gaul than the ones that were formerly used, perhaps like The Iberian one, which is easy to read? I am not good at inserting images otherwise i would try. Thanks Ciriii 17:03, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Ok then, If you feel happy that you can state this better, then go ahead. But I would just still like it to state something about the difference between Iberians and Celts, and also the Celtiberians, as distinct group. Thanks for your help with the maps too!
Dear friend, I apologize if I my words look like unrespectful for you. I did not said that you were national-chauvinist. I said that discussion was only interesting for those people. Of course I understand what you say and I agree. Anyway I was very surprised when after reading that discussion I read this on Portuguese Empire article: "The Portuguese Empire was the first global empire in history. It was the earliest and longest lived of the European colonial empires, spanning almost six centuries, from the capture of Ceuta in 1415 to the handover of Macau in 1999", and I have not see changes on that article. Peço-te desculpas pelo malentendido. Um abraço. -- Ignacio 15:39, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I see the article about
Portuguese Empire continues the same. Will you correct it soon? Saludos --
Ignacio 21:04, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Someone, 213.22.178.52, is trying by all means to introduce an internet address that's not reliable, and to tell that Viriatus was born in a village that he was not (due to a misinterpretation of an ancient text). He doesn't provide bibliography to suport his changes. He's doing the same on the italian and portuguese wikipedias (where he was banned for one day). Obrigada pela atenção. Septrya 03:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your modifications- but they do not help the general reader's understanding of the Roman terms. (1) I am not aware that there is a modern state called "Iberia"- as you will see from the map of Roman provinces, modern Portugal is included in the Roman Lusitania. Therefore, Hispania Tarraconensis is indeed most of Spain. (Spain minus Baetica, which was essentially Andalusia) (2) The term "Hispanics" is misleading, as today it is largely used to mean Latin Americans, especially Latin Americans resident in the USA. I understand your point that the ancient Iberians were not the same as modern Spaniards (although they are their ancestors); but that is the same as saying we can't call the ancient Greeks Greeks because they are not the same as modern Greeks! As a compromise, I've entered "Victor Iberians". One further point: when you edit tables, bear in mind that you can screw up the spacing by entering terms which are too long for the box: so by entering & northern portugal, you have doubled the spacing of several lines, making the table much bigger; same for Hispania Tarraconensis. Please think before you act. 21.6.07 86.85.44.73
De facto, tem graça, foda-se! Velho 02:13, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your edits to te celtoc tribes page, I think its a good compromise and one that makes sense. One thing though. The locations next to the name, do you think they are tyoo much, after all it is just a list and now it is out of format with the rest of the article/list. Instead of "autonomous region of The Asturias, in the hills north..etc etc.." why not just Asturias, because you will discover the detailed information about the location in the actual article itself. I feel it is unecessary wastage. Ciriii 17:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Portuguese Americans are not related to ancient Italic people Latins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.15.77.12 ( talk • contribs)
Do you know who created that "Iberian Peninsula before First Punic War" map? You just added that map to the History of Spain. The map was apparently added to Wikipedia Commons in December 2006. Espana Viva 19:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for compounding the images, I had tried but couldn't achieve a good display. But, may I suggest that the images should be bigger? I could try to enlarge them, but I'm afraid it could become another mess. As I said in the talk page, there are more interesting images avaiable. -- Dilvish 10 words 22:07, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Nice work on the article. I wonder whether any of those maps have English versions. J ɪ m p 02:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Parabéns, mas talvez devesses, de facto, arranjar uma vida... Velho 14:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
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For a modern version of the hypothesis of European origin of PIE see the Paleolithic Continuity Theory (proposed by Italian theorists) that derives Indo-European from the European Paleolithic cultures. The basic argument of this theory is based on the recent paleogentical result - 80% of the genetic stock of Europeans goes back to Paleolithic. «The Neolithic farmers have certainly been important; but they have only contributed about one fifth of our genes. It is the hunters of the Paleolithic that have created the main body of modern European gene pool». (Bryan Sykes, 2001, 242). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.62.22.250 ( talk • contribs)
Please, could you take a look at Template:Portuguese ethnicity. The user Opinoso wants to make a photogallery inside the infobox. Soon we'll have ten pictures there. He has no sense of limit and common sense. Dantadd 21:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Do not listen to this vandal user. Opinoso 01:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I do not wish to start and edit war or even a long debate, but I would like to point out that when you changed all the instances of "Spain" to "Hispania" in the text at Achila II, you seemed to be acting contrary to the very sources on which the article was based:
The works by Collins, James, and Thompson are the premier works on Visigothic Spain in English. It demonstrates that in a historical context, the meaning of the word Spain is clearly Iberia or Hispania. Spain should be regarded as the English translation of the Roman word "Hispania", as, indeed, etymologically it is. Srnec 17:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I've reverted your edit to {{ Africa in topic}} for reasons I explained in my edit summary. Please get consensus on the talk page if you still want to make the edit. Thanks. Picaroon (Talk) 22:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I add pictures from Terra de Miranda and a unnoficial flag NON-SEPARATIST with the colours that are admit for the mirandese people. I add the name of terra de Miranda (Tierra de Miranda) in his native languague, mirandese. Revert a edition without discusion or say that other wikipidist is a lunatic, the words that was used by The Ogre is vandalism. I respect your POV, not share your interest about the imperialism and the "ethnicity" of the portuguese but I respect.Stop! your vandalism Miranfree 08:10, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Your comment to "block Hayden forever!" on this edit is against WP:CIVIL which says to not call for bans or blocks on other editors.---- Dark Tea 05:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. I noticed you are part of the Portugal group. Maybe you can speak portuguese, which means it is sort of strange that we keep speaking in english. By the way, I live in Évora and let me say that we here do not consider Olivenza as portuguese territory and I think it is a bit strange that Olivenza is still oficially in the district of Évora. It seems a bit odd. Anyways, good luck. If you need any help in articles about Évora or Alentejo, please ask. I'll be happy to support you in anything you need, photos or information! Filipeacaeiro 14:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | ||
I hereby award you this barnstar for your tireless, invaluable work here. Keep up the good work! Regards, Hús ö nd 15:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC) |
Hi. I just made a suggestion there [7] and I'd like your opinion but since that page is so inactive, I felt like notifying you here... KarenAER 12:19, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the Barnstar, The Ogre! :-) I'm naturally very proud and grateful for this one. Keep up your excellent work as well! :-) Best regards, Hús ö nd 19:21, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
As soon as you can, please comment here Slrubenstein | Talk 03:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree that we need a German. Someone pulled out the German model. But there will be objections on two issues (1) B&W photo, and (2) another politician. I didn't set these rules and don't agree with them, but without compromise we lose support from the broader base. Can we pull down your contribution and sub in another German? -- Kevin Murray 17:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello The Ogre. I just noticed that you've contacted Learnportuguese and gave some advice, just like me and some other editors have recently. I don't know if you already know that this user is blind ( she claimed she was blind on my talk page yesterday), so Learnportuguese is naturally a newbie who will face more difficulties in getting accustomed to editing Wikipedia, its formats, styles, etc.. I thought I should tell you in case you didn't know. Regards, Hús ö nd 17:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
User Hosund is going to help me with the signature thing. Like I said, I am a blind user, so formats can be an issue with my computer. I've been typing the four tildes, and it doesn't look right 'cause I keep being accused of something I'm not intending to do.
learnportuguese 20:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I've discovered a source of 1570 about this, that says that Portugal had a colony in Cape Breton. Take a look in the Portuguese Empire Discussion page. Greetings, Câmara 22:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
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Tem graça que fui ao artigo depois de ler o Público e quando lá cheguei já lá estava a cena... Velho 14:54, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Have done now. Btw, what were you planning to use for your map? Is there a free basemap that shows the area? Because I was thinking of trying to do an EU one at some point. - J Logan t: 16:31, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Safa, Ogre, tás não só o herói da Família, também o herói da Pátria! Só falta dedicares-te um bocadinho a Deus. Velho 22:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
It's me, it really is! I wasn't kidnapped, I just developed a sense of humour (and also decided that satire is the only proper response to this little farce). I ask you to delete your own comments form the talk page as I do not want you to get in trouble for anyone suspecting that you are even seeming to accuse Fourdee of impersonating me. And I did warn Alun about this, so he knows. Sorry to have caused you any distress, it is a joke - I didn't think I would need to explain it. I guess I am a better mimic than I thought! Slrubenstein | Talk 12:48, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I know, I just did it again - sorry, I can't help it. maybe my spirit has been kidnapped, but if so i assure you it is by an imp who is on your side, really. I just can't take these debates seriously any more, at least not today. Slrubenstein | Talk 13:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC) (yes, really!)
Far be it for me to start a revert war and I know all your reasons were good ones, but I think when it is sectioned off in an "irony" section, it is less funny...The joke is in the difficulty in deciding whether it is a joke. (Being a point not about my edit, but about similar-sounding edits by other people) Slrubenstein | Talk 13:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay- but what is boring are the edits by a certain editor whom I shall not name ;) Slrubenstein | Talk 13:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Wow, that is only the second barnstar I have ever gotten here in 6 years and it means a lot to me, really. I guess what really means a lot to me are your kind words. While I have had the will and time to fight on the talk page front I actually feel guilty that I have not fought on the main front - making substantive contributions to the articles. I work in the Amazon and ethnic groups of Europe let alone White people are not my main field of expertise. I recently made some additions to Ethnic group - finally, at least Weber's definition is in. May I ask what your specialties are in sociology? Perhaps you would feel competent adding to the White peoples or European Peoples' articles material on the social construction of Whiteness or White/European ethnic groups? The only book i know for Europe is Cole and Wolf's The Hidden Frontier and some books on Greek Macedonians (or Macedonian Greeks). On the White people talk page, in the section "Bias in this article" I provided a partial bibliography of works on whiteness - if you know any of them well, or other work by sociologists on whites (I guess even Gans's stuff on Italian Americans should be cited) I hope you have the time to do the work that really counts: quiet, but good, accurate, well-researched additions of content to the articles. It is a stuggle, but I'll watch your back and help out if I can. Slrubenstein | Talk 14:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
By the way, how are Ben Anderson and Ernest Gellner's works on nations and nationalism received on the Continent? Slrubenstein | Talk 14:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I hope my phrasing wasn't irritating: based on your user page I inferred perhaps wrongly that you are based in Europe. Anyway, I fully understand your personal policy about how you edit ... alas, I think these kinds of editors require very serious hobbiests, or actual social scientists who are willing to do some writing. I would encourage my own graduate students except like us they have other priorities. It's a pity ... Slrubenstein | Talk 14:00, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I am in the UK which is why I specify "the Continent" for continental Europe - maybe a bad habit. And in light of the debate over at European people - it always seemed to me that if India is a "subcontinent" isn't Europe also a sub-continent of Asia too? (no offence I hope). Anyway, alas, we are only a few. In the US and I suspect most places even people who claim to be utterly opposed to creationism and want evolution taught in schools do not really understand evolutionary theory and how it forces us to change our way of thinking of species, races, whatever. And it always appals me how someone who would never argue with a physicist about physics will argue with a social scientist about social theory. And here at Wikipedia ... Wikipedia would be a success if all professions and areas of expertise were equally represented among its editors, but I fear most editors are still either in IT or teenagers - and while many of them are indeed thoughtful and well-informed editors, it still means that articles on social science and humanities themes are woefully under-researched. Now: I have a grant proposal to work on. Cheers! Slrubenstein | Talk 14:14, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
You can't begin to imagine! If I could get my ass in gear (and away from Wikipedia) this weekend and write real articles (i.e. legit original research), more people would know just how interesting they are! Slrubenstein | Talk 13:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
There has been a big debate over this policy. I think you have valuable experience that makes you an important interlocutor on this matter. I suggest you forst go here for a very concise account, and then depending on how much time you have read over the WP:NOR policy and the edit conflicts that led to its being protected, or the last talk to be archived ... or just go straight to the talk page. Slrubenstein | Talk 16:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Acaba por ter graça, mas o texto não me parece bem, até porque os acrescentos no fim já não fazem parte da litania (acho). Velho 02:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Olá. Mais uma vez, o IP do costume tentou introduzir o link para os seus sites (msn.groups) no artigo nesta Wikipédia e na WikiPortuguesa. Como suspeitava, conheço este "sr." pessoalmente e tentará por todos os meios fazer valer o seu ponto de vista. Se não o conseguir, difamará a Wikipédia nos seus sites. É esperar para ver. Septrya ( talk • contribs) 22:17, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I finally have the signature thing going properly! I don't know why all of a sudden it is linking properly, 'cause I've been typing four ~ characters just as indicated many many times. That was one of the first things I read on Wikipedia when I signed up.
Do you speak Portuguese? Have you been to Portugal or Brazil?
learnportuguese 00:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
MAKE SURE TO "WATCH" MY USER PAGE AND TALK PAGE FOR CONTINUOUS UPDATING! :)
learnportuguese 03:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Just returning your hello. We need to start a user category for this or something... Ogre lawless 01:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Pensei que já não escrevesses na Viquipédia... Velho 11:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks for the info given at List of countries by formation dates, but could you use the SHOW PREVIEW button 1st to make sure all you want to do is ok before using the SAVE PAGE button to submit it. It seems there were several edits done within a few minutes of each other recently. I can understand if something was missed or needed fixing though. A few spelling mistakes were also there, plus a bit long in areas, but I'll fix it up. Thanks That-Vela-Fella ( talk) 20:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, it seems that at the very least it should be renamed to "Latin British" or "Latin Britons". As to whether even this would justify keeping it, I don't know; I'm inclined to think it wouldn't, but I'll think about it some more. You should maybe give it a day or two before proposing deletion. Also, would you please check out Category:People born in Mozambique and let me know what you think? I explained its purpose in the talk page. Thanks. SamEV ( talk) 14:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Template:British Latinos has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Gustav von Humpelschmumpel ( talk) 15:22, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I only noticed you moved "History of Latinos and Hispanics" to "History of Latinos and Hispanics in the United States" after I'd posted my comment on the Hispanics in the United States talk page. I'm considering whether the latter article should move to the corresponding title, i.e. to "Latinos and Hispanics in the United States", or some other title. How about you? Although I find the title very long (I would have preferred just "Latinos and Hispanics") and I think that it should be "Hispanic and Latino" (i.e. the reverse order), I'm for the move because at least it includes the two terms. But ... what about the fact that debate on the move was closed? Or does that just apply to that particular name that was debated?
SamEV (
talk) 23:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Olá.
Há muita confusão à volta dos termos "Latin" e "Latino", o que não é de surpreender porque têm significados múltiplos. Descobri vários artigos relacionados com eles, que não estão lá muito claros, e gostaria de fazer umas alterações, mas também gostava de ter outras opiniões, até porque por hoje estou cansado de editar artigos. Ideias:
Outras páginas interessantes que descobri:
Acho que tudo isto pode e deve ser arrumado e compatibilizado, mas de momento devo confessar que estou demasiado cansado. Problema: o que chamar ao artigo sobre o sentido europeu de "Latin" -- Latin peoples vai ser demasiado confuso de certeza; tem de ser uma página de desambiguação!
Gostaria que me dissesse o que acha. Cumprimentos. FilipeS ( talk) 00:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Caro senhor Ogre, Estou escrevendo porque o senhor modificou indevidamente duas vezes o artigo sobre Madeira. Em uma delas, disse que há milhões de livros que tratam da sua descoberta. Pessoalmente, sou especialista do assunto e não os conheço. (Seria inbteressante que o senhor publique uma parte da lista, me ajudaria muito) O interesse dos dois livros que aí estão é o de serem os únicos, no meu conhecer, que dão a versão da descoberta de acordo com o ponto de vista de Zurara. Espero que esta explicação tenha sido suficiente para que o senhor pare de apagá-los. Muito obrigado. 81.56.141.205 ( talk) 03:40, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
go check the talk page for Latin europe. Oh and also, Bluesky mentions there how Iamandrewrice's work on it was good...i agree... and i think it is only prejudice of you to disagree just because he is now blocked, which had nothing to do with his editing skills. Just2saythis ( talk) 15:11, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I know you prefer not to work on sociological topics but would appreciate it if you could do me a favor. There has been some back-and-forth reorganizing of the article on race as a human classification and I would be very grateful if you would go over the sections on race as a social construction (there are three case-studies) primarily for clarity and style: here ... thanks, Slrubenstein Talk 00:27, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your looking over the section on "social construction: in the race article - I do not have anything specific in mind but I value an outsider's view and also trust that as a scoiologist if there was some gaping error you would spot it immediately. I do not think it is an issue that English is your second language - indeed, many non-native English speakers read English Wikipedia so it is worth trying to make the prose clear and intelligible even to non-native speakers. So that is it - I was just looking for someone knowledgable who could spot anything that is unclear or off-base. Thanks Slrubenstein | Talk 17:18, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Marlith T/ C 00:06, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Stop undoing other peoples edits in the white people page just because you please so. 87.220.201.69 ( talk) 20:15, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Olá. I was just dropping a message because I haven't see any posts from you on my talk page for awhile. Be assured that my talk page is a friendly and dynamic environment with discussion on many aspects of the beautiful and fascinating Portuguese language. Just scroll to any section or the end of anyone's comments and type away. :-) learnportuguese ( talk) 21:48, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Olá. College term starts January 10 and so I won't be on Wikipedia nearly as much. I thought I'd let you know. Just put my pages on your watchlist and you can start new discussions if you want. I think it's excellent what you have contributed so far! :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Learnportuguese ( talk • contribs) 04:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Claro que já aqui não venho (mais de duas vezes ao dia).
Velho (
talk) 21:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
(Olha que um tipo que te acusou de apagares demais no White people talvez tenha um nadinha de razão (sobretudo, no teu penúltimo undo).
Velho (
talk) 21:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Um comentário pouco antes do meu, intitulado "incivility", é capaz de ter aluma razão quanto aos teus edits no
white people.
Velho (
talk) 22:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Não é isso, porra! Aqui: ((redundant with "and other countries from Europe" - Undid revision 183842836 by Ale4117 (talk))) tu cortaste um gajo que até me pareceu de boa fé.
Não estou contra isso que disseste. Mas aquele bocadinho de texto fazia referência a outros países (ou grupos étnicos). Talvez se pudesse aproveitar alguma coisa, sem faz um simples e geral undo.
Velho (
talk) 04:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I'm a newbie here, so, I really espect that it works like this: Thanks for the Welcome :-) Cadroiolos ( talk) 11:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
How can you say there weren't Iberians in Portugal? Are you out of your mind? If Iberians are not the ancient inhabitants of Portugal, so who are they? Opinoso ( talk) 20:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello Sir. I adress to you to tell you that the proclamation of Antonio, prior of Crato, as king of Portugal happened in Santarem on July 24th, 1580, and although he could only reign in the continent up to the battle of Alcántara, on August 25th, the Tomar Courts only recognized Phillip to be king on April 15th, 1581. Have a good time, Ralphloren171 ( talk) 17:19, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
In the context created by pt:Abade Correia da Serra, there can be no question that your recent edit to José Correa de Serra was justified. My question seems a bit awkward, but I'm wondering if you can help me understand why I was wrong in creating this article with a mis-spelling. I first encountered this scholar's name when I read his signature on a nomination letter for a proposed new member of the Royal Society in London. The penmanship is very clear -- hence my error and that of the archivists of the Society. You can see it for yourself, if you like. Isaac Titsingh was elected to membership in the Society in 1797; and his nomination letter has been posted with other similar membership records at the Royal Society web site.
The record identifies those signing Titsingh's nomination letter were: William Marsden, Henry Cavendish, Admiral John Dalrymple, José Correa de Serra, Maxwell Garthshore, William Larkins, John Lloyd, Henry Crathorne, Sir Charles Wilkins.
Also, although it it is no longer readily available for on-line viewing, I did find confirmation for my mistaken view in reading: Abbeé Correa and the genesis of the Monroe Doctrine, John Parry Memorial Lecture, Harvard University (2000).
Could this have been one of those occasions when the conventions of spelling are in flux? -- Ooperhoofd ( talk) 19:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Just reverted the anon again. Is there a story here I don't know about. Dloh cierekim Deleted? 00:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
The user [Dúnadan] has removed my entire paragraph of text and replaced it with his, with no reason whatsoever. If you follow his edits, you can clearly see that he has an agenda, as he has been reverting and removing sections from articles concerning Argentine demographics all across the wiki.
I consider my original text was apropiate for the article, yet the one posted by the Dúnadan is a clear copy-paste of what he typed into Demographics of Argentina. In both articles, [Dúnadan] has reintroduced the controversial UBA study that says 56% of Argentines have amerindian descent. This study has been proven wrong by many others, such as [3], as well as arguments explaining that the supposed "amerindian" markers analized are also present in Spanish and Galician populations, of which Argentina has plenty of descendants.
As a result, the UBA study was considered too controversial, and a consensus was reached to keep it out of the Demographics of Argentina article. Yet this user has been adding it again, and even worse, HAS REWRITTEN MY COUNTRIBUTION WITH NO REASON WHATSOEVER, as he basically posted the same information with a different rewording.
I've made more than 500 contributions to the Wiki, with a dynamic IP, but it's pretty sad to see that so many editors are willing to side against an anonymous editor simply because he's anonymous. I guess I'll have to create a nickname for myself, even though that undermines the purpose of the Wiki itself.
Please take a look on this info I gave you. The genetic study has no bearing whatsoever in the article, unless you also want to include genetic studies on Canada, the USA, Brazil, or Australia, which also show similar levels of admixture. Regards,
--200.117.168.68 (talk) 00:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ogre, I have been looking towards the recients editions on the article white people and this particular user the Dúnadan who has been editing all the articles with the UBA study made surprisingly in all white and demographics articles about Argentina I personally think we should report it as vandalism because he cannot just appear and erase all our contributions just because he wants to put a racist study against Argentina and all ending up in a great discution because that's what he has created..well I wait your opinion
Fercho85 02:32 09 Feb 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 05:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Just an FYI, a banned user ( User:Uhy) occasionally comes to articles that span Portuguese and Spanish topics and subtly erases all mentions of Spanish and emphasizes Portugal, as shown here.- Wafulz ( talk) 05:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Trabalhaste bem ali no pater familias... LOL
Ainda me rio de ter pensado que me estavas a plagiar num artigo académico...
Velho (
talk) 08:17, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
DOB is fine... please bear in mind that the images will line up differently on different peoples computers. 9 images might look ok on your screen but it might look out of alignment for somebody else.-- Dr who1975 ( talk) 19:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Este verbete na página de discussão na seccão -Protection- foi discutido porque existem regras que são usadas seletivamente. Não sei se poderia dar uma opinião. Obrigado.
I've never heard of him before. I'll have a look at the article later and see if it meets WP:MUSIC. Thanks. Best regards, Hús ö nd 18:38, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I have created a special page for the vote regarding French people images at Talk:French people/Vote, and ported your vote to that new page. I'll set my own choice tomorrow. Good idea you had, hope we'll see some participation in order to make a decision. Best regards - Wikigi | talk to me | 23:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
See the talk page. I think some of these things need careful attention. Thanks Crystalclearchanges ( talk) 16:33, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks again, man! SamEV ( talk) 04:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
It has already been discussed here Talk:War of the Grand Alliance/Archive 1. I'll ask an admin. I didn't realise it was such a complex thing. 21:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello The Ogre. I ask you, please, to stop immediately your reverts. You are the one who called me a vandal in the first place because i reverted the edits of an anonymous who changed the text written by Pistolpierre. What i did was the only thing to do. Do not try to invert the roles. Calling me a vandal for having reverted a vandalism is not acceptable. I do not know what sort of game you are trying to play but it is not nice from your part. Regards. Med ( talk) 19:23, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello Med! First of all let me give you my most sincere and humble apologies! I'm not playing any sort of game, I assure you. It was all a big mistake on my part and I am truly sorry if any of my actions or words have offended you. My mistake was that I thought (though I also thought it strange since it did not agree with you contributons' profile) that you were the one changing some other editor's words (in these case from a supposed Italian version of Napoleon's name to a French one) - my mistake was also provoked by the fact that you (why? can't seem to understand) also changed, when you reversed the anon vandal, Dbachmann's talk link from (𒁳) to (��). Again my strongest and enerst apologies! I wrote in French because I got the impression (wrong?) that you were a French speaker. And in fact I didn't even noticed that I was the one that called you a vandal in the first place! There are days everything one does is wrong and today I deffinitely should have stayed in bed! I'm so sorry for the small confusion I unintentionaly caused. I hope no ill will comes between us in the future should we meet again. Thank you for your understanding and calmeness! The Ogre ( talk) 19:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I had such a hard time trying to figure out how the formula for those ancestry boxes works! That really helped me out. Here's a cookie for each one:
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Thanks again!!! Wilhelmina Will ( talk) 04:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Deveras, As you were writing me I was making changes to the controversy section in Latino. Maybe you can read it and we can discuss what you think and feel can communicate contrasting views in an educational and respectable fashion. I apologize if I offended you in any way. EDGARR ( talk) 06:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok Ogre. However apart from some brief forays to emphasize aome things and make sure a more or less global perspective is being maintained I haven't been paying much attention so I'll now have a look at the arguments, as I've been reducing my obsessiveness in recent months with much success. I'll try to come up to speed on this vandalism issue, however. Provocateur ( talk) 07:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Oye. You say "the articles are intended to be serious, so please don't make joke edits". Have you actually read the artcile or, more importantly, the talk page? That is the joke!! "Readers looking for serious articles will not find them amusing"- For just a moment, let's ignore the blatant POV pushing and "dumbed" down editing... Cm'on- a list of celebrities to help define 3000+ years of culture and history?!?? (By the way, have you ever met a Latin Ukrainian?). Apart from the fact that my "contribution" was a valid statement on the talk page (not the article!) and thus not really vandalism, it was in the same adolescent vein as its context. I've come across this infantile editor before... he is on a rampage. The good faith attempts by you and other seasoned editors will not help. Theredapple ( talk) 17:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
One last thing... it's always the same idiots. Has it occurred to anyone that CCC bears a striking resemblance to User:Iamandrewrice? Thanks for allowing me to vent. Theredapple ( talk) 01:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
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When I first interacted with him (at the Vatican discussion in Talk:Latin European, nine days ago) I had no idea who he was. But since we started working on Latin Europe six days ago, I suspected from that day on that he was Andrew. I decided to show assumption of good faith and leave it to others to decide if he stays or goes, my thinking being that he's getting things moving and is editing constructively. Of course, I didn't know about how it was going at other articles he's editing, but I have no complaints about our interactions at Latin Europe. SamEV ( talk) 16:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I noticed that you have helped the spanish, portuguese people articles with great photos combined together with what was free to use already. I wandered if you could help do the same maybe with 8-10 photos of spanish americans, dont think spanish Britons has many at all at the mo. The problem is that there doesnt seem to be great number of photos of the people..maybe you can help put them together??..rita hayworth has afew photos to choose from...and others in the list of spanish americans. Many thanks if you can help..since i thought what you did was professional. Britannic1 ( talk) 17:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I am not Britanicus, no. Crystalclearchanges ( talk) 19:38, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Ogre! For the thousandth time. :) SamEV ( talk) 00:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I came across your Image:Portuguese People.PNG and I was puzzled by the choice of license. Despite not being familiar with all stipulations of the copyrights laws and only judging from what I know about GFDL, I think that the presence in this patchwork of two images released under GFDL requires the whole of it be released under GFDL, too. The license contains a share-alike clause, which is absent at PD and CC-BY, making it a more restrictive one. (Hopefully you haven't collaged a GFDL and CC-BY-SA because in this case no choice of a license would be adequate enough...) So this is what I had to say, just to edge your attention, and to ask you to review this image or contact more copyright-experienced wikipedians for advice... Cheers! Spiritia ( talk) 06:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
I shall be away for a day or two, but when I return I will take a closer look at that user. Thanks Whit stable 10:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey Ogre, just a short note to thank you for your work. It was a pleasure to team up with you on that one. Cheers - Wikigi | talk to me | 07:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
I understand your ommission of those tribes from the Iberians article and I apologize for re-verting so often (it won't happen anymore). We really need to discuss the matter but I have been so busy with the stubborness of the issue on Talk:French people/Vote (and possible creation of an article for the French ethnic group) that I didnt get much time to read alot of your comments on my own talk page. The chracterization of the peoples in ancient Iberia isn't merely on linguistic grounds but on other aspects of culture as well as ethnicity in genereal (eg. descent). Celtiiberians were a mesh of the Celtic and Iberian cultures, hence why I would argue that they can be included as an Iberian tribe. I know we have similar viewpoints on many matters, including ethnicity and the importance of descent (and related traits) in such, so I want to work with you on such articles as Iberians, not against, lol. Ciao, Epf ( talk) 12:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, Ogre. I just noticed that Image:Ethnographic Iberia 200 BCE.PNG is your creation. I think it has several important errors and many not less important presumptions that are likely to be wrong as well (or are blanks in our knowledge). I have made a criticism in the image talk page in the hope that you pick up these objections and can improve the map into something really worth it. Not everything must be colored: leaving blank "terra incognita" areas would be a great thing to do in the case of many tribes really. In any case, as something specially exaggerated, the Talayotic culture was not anymore active by 200 BCE. -- Sugaar ( talk) 07:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
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A message which could interest you here. DocteurCosmos ( talk) 14:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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As you are member of the wikiproject Spain and I've seen that you have collaborated in many articles of history about the Iberian Peninsula, Portugal, etc, you may be interested on helping me to reform the article Hispanic. My main goal is to end with the idea that "hispanic" is equivalent to "south american", so I am introducing a few sections to the article Hispanic, to explain the great missunderstanding about talking of "hispanic" as a synonym of castilian-speaking (forgetting the basques, portugueses, catalans, etc), and I'm also adding a small section to explain the history of Hispania from its roman times, etc. So you may wanna extend some section. I'm doing it because I couldn't suffer the fact that the 90% of the article Hispanic was talking about the so-called latinos of the U.S. and so on, while the word "catalan" just appeared once. Onofre Bouvila 22:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi there! Who can I ask about editing my contributions pages, since they have removed some of them? Thx! Cercia (aka Novice Wikipedian).
Sorry I mean they removed some of my edits that I made (reset the article) and I get confused when I look at the contributions list and it still says that I made an edit. Is there a way I can rearrange the logs on a special page? Cercia (aka Novice Wikipedian).
I've reformed the Iberians article, and added quite a lot of information, pictures, restructurated the sections, etc. Visit the post I created at its talk page if you wish.
More specifically, I'm here because I've seen that you have created lots of articles about ancient Iberian tribes ( Ilergetes, Cassetani, etc). If you could group them all (also the Celtiberian tribes, there are lots of stub-articles about them, dunno if it was you too who created them), so if you could group them all, and put them all in a category called like "Ancient Iberian Tribes" or something like that, and also link them all from the Iberians article, it would be kinda cool.
I've tryed to do it, but there are too many article-stubs about these ancient tribes and I probably miss them all. But as you've created the articles, I bet you'll be able to do it.
Thanks.
Onofre Bouvila 21:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello! I removed this info because I created The Roman Catholic Church and Colonialism article where it is included. Because of the length of colonialism, I believed this was necessary for editorial consensus. However, I am rather of your POV that it should be included anyway, and the "Church & Colonialism" article improved and extended. Lapaz 16:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
This might be of some interest. Velho 23:27, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Fellow-WikiPedian, This thing came up: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Where Troy Once Stood. Would you like to vote? Antiphus 20:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Caro Peço-lhe desculpa pela maneira como me dirigi a si no meu primeiro post.E agradeço-lhe a mensagem que me enviou. No fundo, partilhamos o mesmo ponto de vista.No entanto, acredito que a influencia negra na populaçao é bastante superior á sofrida em qualquer outro pais europeu,sendo a mistura entre culturas algo que define a cultura portuguesa. Lembre-se da nossa história,dar novos mundos ao mundo, tudo isso e etc,a expansão maritima está profundamente marcada na cultura do povo portugues, é isso que os distingue dos outros europeus.se não está, deveria estar. Foi por isso que insisto tanto em se manter lá a influencia africana. De resto, ainda nos nossos dias, se viajar pelas regiões de Alcacer do Sal e Coruche, bem sabe que a influencia africana nessas populaçoes é mais que evidente ao "olho nu". Cumprimentos 00:42, 1 November 2006 (UTC) Vieirasimoes
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Some people continue erasing verifiable and up-dated information in the Spanish People's article about recently published books pointing to a strong link between Iberia and Atlantic Europe. Those books are Blood of the Isles, by Bryan Sykes, Origins of Britons, by Stephen Oppenheimer and Deep Ancestry, by Spencer Wells. What do you think of it? Veritas et Severitas 17:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, user Burgass has done it again. Just look at this user's constant and strange behaviour in this article. Veritas et Severitas 18:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Please look at Burgass' attitude in the Spanish article.
Veritas et Severitas 20:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi ogre
You are right in everything you asked and said:
1 - it is about the campaigns of Afonso de Albuquerque which I'll call Luso-Islamic War.
2 - The info is wrong because I just copied the infobox of my "dutch-portuguese war" and planed to chnage the details.
Unfortunately I haven't had the time.
Hoje, não, porra. Mesmo depois, confesso que ainda me dará um bocado de trabalho...
Sabes que isto de ler a língua das línguas não é para todos (os dias)...
Velho 02:23, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey, Ogre, what do you think we should do about Señor Usuario Anonimo's changes to falcata? For the reasons I explained on the talk page I am in favor of just reverting, possibly incorporating some of the better stuff from the Spanish article he was translating afterwards. But I don't want to do so without some sort of consensus, for obvious reasons. -- Iustinus 21:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Man, this guy is really getting on my nerves. I don't understand why he thinks he needs to be so nasty either. -- Iustinus 01:35, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Your comment:
I removed it probably because I'm being a touch over-sensitive! If you think it belongs, please do re-add it! I see that you're a member of WikiProject Portugal, but you're being very helpful in adding the WikiProject Spain tag to the caliphs . . . thank you! Would you like to join WikiProject Spain as well? ;) PS: I see what you mean about there being more Afghan tags on the caliphs! Espana Viva 15:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh, also, I've got to ask you . . . are you using a bot to add all those WikiProject Portugal tags, or are you doing those manually! (The Afghan tags all showed because a bot added those tags too broadly). Espana Viva 15:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Pá, vai a Talk:Scouting aderir ao que eu escrevi! Há um featured article só a dizer bem dos fascistas dos escuteiros! Irra!! Velho 02:24, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
AMO-TE —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.193.84.127 ( talk) 18:41, 9 February 2007 (UTC).
I did see the developments on talk:falcata, so hopefully he'll stay calm now. It's funny you should come to me with some Latin: a friend of mine, seeing the research work you'd done on Fulgosio was impressed, and thought you would be a good candidate for la: if you know some Latin ;) Anyway, now's a bad time, but I'll take a look at your quote when I get home. -- Iustinus 21:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
You are correct. I have moved this page. Thanks for pointing it out. My source also says Pires so it 100% my fault. Must be 'old age' on my behalf. It makes sense, Pires is a much more successful google search too! thanks Merbabu 01:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
¡Bienvenido(a) to WikiProject Spain! We look forward to your contributions. If you already have a project in mind, please feel free to contribute. If you would like a suggestion, please contact me on my discussion page. Again, welcome! Espana Viva 18:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your kind note.-- Brownlee 23:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Só um gajo muito avariado é que anda a espalhar welcomes à bruta por todo o lado.... Velho 20:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
for the welcome message! omes 20:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Listen guy, give me a break here. I know alot of Portuguese people, and I only know one who has MIXED blonde shades. No one in Portugal has lightest blodne shades seen in northern Europe and there is now ay that 20% of the whole country has blonde hair ? Have yo uever been there ? There is NO way the country has that much blondes and I would bet my life on that. England barely has that percentage even though the majority of people there are of pale complexion. DOn't be riduloucs. The website you referenced is a joke. Portugal has one of the highest percetnages of darker complexions in all of Europe, and the smallest in lighter complexions.
Dear Orge, thank you very much for you warm welcome :) I also edit on Basque Wikipedia. Again thank you! Euskera 15:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm re-opening up your concerns of Jorge Sampaio being on a list of Jews. Since he says he's not one, WP:BLP supports your position. If you want to continue the debate please comment on it. Mehmeda 02:50, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
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The Ogre,
Thanks for your interest in my proposal. I have responded on the Talk page. J i m p 20:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Porra, o mapa ficou fabuloso! Confesso que preferia amarelo em vez de cor-de-rosa, para se ver melhor, mas era só isso!
Cervejolas logo?
Velho 17:43, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello there. Thanks for your interest. i replied on the article in question (and reverted sorry). By the way, i do love the map. Nice work indeed. But, there might be one dot that needs a change of colour. Pink i suggest, not read. he he. Some weeks ago i did a bit of work on Portuguese explorers, and their presence in Indonesia. I will pass the links on to you shortly. I have a question though, why was the Portuguese Empire article split? Ie, to the "Evolution of..." article. ciao for now. -- Merbabu 13:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Just for your information, or to share with anyone else who may be interested: as i mentioned earlier, a few weeks back I wrote a bit about the Portuguese in Indonesia across a number of articles. There's probably more that can be done in this area. These articles included:
Soon I would like to summaries this info into a single consolidated article. Merbabu 05:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Ouve, tou na Germânia Superior! Num portátil ínfimo. Como é que te posso defender, puerra?! Velho 18:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Caro Ogre, percebi que mudastes a grafia de "Francisco Antonio Doria" para "Francisco Antônio Dória". Apesar da última grafia ser a correta em Português, na certidão do professor Doria consta "Antonio Doria", sem acentos. Acredito que a razão seja a grafia Italiana, origem de sua família. Em tempo: em minha dissertação de mestrado escrevi o nome do professor Doria com acento (ele foi meu orientador), e ele imediatamente corrigiu a grafia. Você teria como reverter o título da página para o original? Obrigado, Acacio de Barros. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 171.64.22.40 ( talk) 17:53, 9 April 2007 (UTC).
Stop introducing lies in Wiki. Nowhere in Portugal is Rb1 90%. The only area is in the Basque country in Spain. 65.11.114.84 16:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Again, 65.11.114.84, and as a follow up to our "discussions" regarding the map of the Spanish Empire... Let me tell you again that it is quite annoying, to say the least, to have to discuss these or any other subjects with someone who prefers to stay anonymous and uses several different IP adresses. If you have something to contribute to Wikipedia on a regular basis why don't you register as a permanent user? Secondely, you are not assuming my good faith. If you check my contributions and profile you may be able to see the serious and open minded attitude I have regarding any subject, you may also note that I am a member of WikiProject Portugal and WikiProject Spain. I have no nationalistic agenda of any sort, and am, in fact, quite opposed to such agendas. Contrary to you, I do not wish to attack you personally, by calling you a liar, manipulator or a nationalistic something (even if your insistance, contrary to well known and established facts, in saying that the Spanish Empire included the Portuguese Empire between 1580-1640 is quite suspicious to me...) - Please! No personal attacks! If you want to discuss something, let us do it in a civilised and calm manner. Regarding the present issue of the percentages of R1B, I am, by no means, an expert or even someone with more than a superficial knowledge on these subjects. I reverted your edits because I am generally suspicious of anonymous unregistered users who seem to be forcing an agenda on several articles and basically delete information that has been in those articles for some time, without anyone disputing it. Now, regarding the statemente that "Haplotype R1b exceeds 90% of Y-chromosomes in parts of Wales, Ireland and Spain. [2] [3] [4]", I believe that the links presented do not prove any such things for those countries (and in wich "parts" of those countries?). Futhermore, the samples are quite small and non-representative of overall populations (and believe me, if you will, I do know population sampling and statistics!). What I do know is that R1b is of Iberian origin and represents the majority of Iberian populations' Y lineages, in any part of Iberia, with a concentration in the areas of the Basque country. My edit did not intend to erase Spain from that polemic statement of the 90% - I must admit I reversed because you had deleted Portugal, I did not notice that Spain disapeared from the version I saved... I admit my fault! So, my friend, calm down. And do not treat others as villains until they prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they are so. Thank you. The Ogre 15:30, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Mas ouve lá, pá, o mapa inicial até distingue bem as coisas portuguesas, dizendo que o são. O que lá te chateia é a expressão «Spanish Empire»? Velho 22:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Ogre, I've made some changes in the Definition on the Sp Emp page and a change to the anachronous map by putting in Spanish-Portuguese monarchs in place of Spanish sovereign. Please check them out and hopefully we can put some of these disputes to rest. Cheers Provocateur 02:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Could you please comment my proposal on the article's talk page?
Best wishes, -- PaxEquilibrium 21:27, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
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I'm trying to redirect Mike Freeman to Mike_Freeman_(disambiguation). Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page says to replace content with
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at the top of the page, but I get a numbered list item instead. What's the trick? Elphion 08:30, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Also, I see from Help that I should have moved Mike Freeman to Mike Freeman (football) rather that copied it, in order to preserve the page history. Can this be fixed at this point? (and after the move, can one then create a new Mike Freeman that redirects to the disambiguation page?) I suppose another solution would be to add a dab reference to the top of the current Mike Freeman page and junk my copy at Mike Freeman (football) Elphion 09:33, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Dear Ogre: my name, as it appears in my birth certificate, has no accents. Reason? Basically my parents felt that the use of accents (diacriticals) in Portuguese was so unstable that avoiding them was the best policy. (Of course the Doria family has spelt it as Doria for the last four centuries or so, as the documnts show it, both in Brazil and in Italy.) So please do correct it.
Also, I use the no-accent-name in all my publications. As some search engines are diacritical-sensitive, if people look for my name with a diacritical, they will find no references...
Best,
Francisco Antonio Doria
Hi, I insert some correct and impartial modifications in Hilda Toledano page: 1- the libel suit in Italy against Guy Stair Sainty "It is nothing whatsoever to do with the merits of the case nor the claims of Mr Poidimani which have not even been addressed by the court as yet" . Infact these are Stair Sainty words and you can see this here [5]. So I insert this also in Guy Stair Sainty page. 2- I have added a external link concerning the violence against the Royal House of Portugal, Constitutional Line by the Brazialian Culture Journal. In Duarte Pio of Braganza page I insert an important (and famous in Portugal) critique web site of Duarte and this news: “On March 17, 2007 the portuguese press reported the news that after the People's Monarchist Party president (Nuno da Camera Pereira) charge there will be a criminal trial against Mr Duarte Pio of Braganza for theft and unlawful use of the "São Miguel da Ala" Order. [6]” but the Duarte Pio supporters continue to delete this. Why?This is only a vandalism against the freedom of opinions. I insert also in pretender page the truth about: “ Maria Pia of Saxe Coburg Braganza, was the ( illegitimate daughter of Carlos I of Portugal. In the 1982 the Sacred Roman Rota confirmed her baptisimal documents with the paternity of the king and the presence of a document signed by King Carlos granting her the rights of the princes of Portugal.” But always a miguelist supporter continue to delete this and put his libellous version. I am also disgusted that this people insert Hilda Toledano as name of her wikipedia article and not her real name Maria Pia of Saxe Coburg Braganza. This is their method in order to discredit this pretender... Is possible and correct for you in a democratyc encycloepdia this censorship against this lady and her heir in favour of Duarte Pio? I hope you can see that my contributiones are not vandalism but based only in objective facts....My best regards, Manuel de Sousa
Hi, I'm trying to make a map of the Treaty of Tordesillas and Saragossa lines, showing briefly how they affected the history of the people living in the territories of the Portuguese and Spanish empires. (Unfortunately I probably won't be able to contribute this map to Wikipedia, because the graphic designer working on this project with me has a vector map that he prefers to work from that has licensing incompatible with Wikipedia illustrations... but maybe we can do another version if we find a better-licensed base map.) Anyway, I'm wondering where you got the information for your very thorough historical map of the Portuguese empire. Trying to show the colonial possessions of Spain and Portugal has turned into a difficult challenge, partly because they varied so much over time, and partly because they don't quite correspond to present-day national borders. Do you have a source or a reference you could point me to for the map you produced (and perhaps equivalent information for the Spanish empire)? Do you think it would be more edifying to see the treaty lines drawn against the eventual colonial territories, or against the current national borders of the Lusophone and Hispanophone countries? Thanks! Schoen 23:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your welcome to the wikipedia in english. I hope to contribute specially in heraldry and in spanish matters. Nice to meet you here. -- Ignaciogavira 18:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
By the way: I have removed the coat of arms in the article about the Spanish Empire and changed it for the only common arms in all the period: the small arms of Castile, Leon and Granada, surrounded by the Golden Fleece and crowned by an open crown. The other was the coat of arms of the Presidio National Park in San Francisco Bay, not the Spanish Empire coat of arms. -- Ignaciogavira 18:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Vem aqui: Talk:Portuguese_grammar#Spanish_vs._Castilian. Velho 18:50, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
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I don't know what a British isles point of view is, but clearly yours is a biased one. The article works on the assumption of "people" not political borders, we have had this argument again and again. The iberians were not celtic, but iberian. A distinct and seperate ethnic grouping, which is why they have their own sub grouping but do not appear in the "list of Celtic peoples". The celts that were in Iberia, being covered by the list of Gallic celts, or Celtiberians, make the need for a new section irrelevant. If you wish to begin a revert war, and seek a third party juridiction, ok. It is not about the "evidence", it is merely about the necessary format of the article. Ciriii 16:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
There is now an expanded list of Iberian tribes etc that may be a compromise...if you couldedit it and put the relevant info like place names and also the maps on theer I think iut should be ok now. Ciriii 16:51, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
No, no not your former version, the one now, if it suits both parties. Because the information on other contemporaries is there, but some other information for the reader I see as a compromise. In future, please do not use terms like "british point of view"; it is unecessarily inflammatory and highly sterotypical from someone who doesn't know my views. I apologiese for acalling you bias. Thank you for making the edits. Is it possible to find a better map of the British isles and Gaul than the ones that were formerly used, perhaps like The Iberian one, which is easy to read? I am not good at inserting images otherwise i would try. Thanks Ciriii 17:03, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Ok then, If you feel happy that you can state this better, then go ahead. But I would just still like it to state something about the difference between Iberians and Celts, and also the Celtiberians, as distinct group. Thanks for your help with the maps too!
Dear friend, I apologize if I my words look like unrespectful for you. I did not said that you were national-chauvinist. I said that discussion was only interesting for those people. Of course I understand what you say and I agree. Anyway I was very surprised when after reading that discussion I read this on Portuguese Empire article: "The Portuguese Empire was the first global empire in history. It was the earliest and longest lived of the European colonial empires, spanning almost six centuries, from the capture of Ceuta in 1415 to the handover of Macau in 1999", and I have not see changes on that article. Peço-te desculpas pelo malentendido. Um abraço. -- Ignacio 15:39, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I see the article about
Portuguese Empire continues the same. Will you correct it soon? Saludos --
Ignacio 21:04, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Someone, 213.22.178.52, is trying by all means to introduce an internet address that's not reliable, and to tell that Viriatus was born in a village that he was not (due to a misinterpretation of an ancient text). He doesn't provide bibliography to suport his changes. He's doing the same on the italian and portuguese wikipedias (where he was banned for one day). Obrigada pela atenção. Septrya 03:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your modifications- but they do not help the general reader's understanding of the Roman terms. (1) I am not aware that there is a modern state called "Iberia"- as you will see from the map of Roman provinces, modern Portugal is included in the Roman Lusitania. Therefore, Hispania Tarraconensis is indeed most of Spain. (Spain minus Baetica, which was essentially Andalusia) (2) The term "Hispanics" is misleading, as today it is largely used to mean Latin Americans, especially Latin Americans resident in the USA. I understand your point that the ancient Iberians were not the same as modern Spaniards (although they are their ancestors); but that is the same as saying we can't call the ancient Greeks Greeks because they are not the same as modern Greeks! As a compromise, I've entered "Victor Iberians". One further point: when you edit tables, bear in mind that you can screw up the spacing by entering terms which are too long for the box: so by entering & northern portugal, you have doubled the spacing of several lines, making the table much bigger; same for Hispania Tarraconensis. Please think before you act. 21.6.07 86.85.44.73
De facto, tem graça, foda-se! Velho 02:13, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your edits to te celtoc tribes page, I think its a good compromise and one that makes sense. One thing though. The locations next to the name, do you think they are tyoo much, after all it is just a list and now it is out of format with the rest of the article/list. Instead of "autonomous region of The Asturias, in the hills north..etc etc.." why not just Asturias, because you will discover the detailed information about the location in the actual article itself. I feel it is unecessary wastage. Ciriii 17:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Portuguese Americans are not related to ancient Italic people Latins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.15.77.12 ( talk • contribs)
Do you know who created that "Iberian Peninsula before First Punic War" map? You just added that map to the History of Spain. The map was apparently added to Wikipedia Commons in December 2006. Espana Viva 19:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for compounding the images, I had tried but couldn't achieve a good display. But, may I suggest that the images should be bigger? I could try to enlarge them, but I'm afraid it could become another mess. As I said in the talk page, there are more interesting images avaiable. -- Dilvish 10 words 22:07, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Nice work on the article. I wonder whether any of those maps have English versions. J ɪ m p 02:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Parabéns, mas talvez devesses, de facto, arranjar uma vida... Velho 14:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
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Please, could you take a look at Template:Portuguese ethnicity. The user Opinoso wants to make a photogallery inside the infobox. Soon we'll have ten pictures there. He has no sense of limit and common sense. Dantadd 21:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Do not listen to this vandal user. Opinoso 01:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I do not wish to start and edit war or even a long debate, but I would like to point out that when you changed all the instances of "Spain" to "Hispania" in the text at Achila II, you seemed to be acting contrary to the very sources on which the article was based:
The works by Collins, James, and Thompson are the premier works on Visigothic Spain in English. It demonstrates that in a historical context, the meaning of the word Spain is clearly Iberia or Hispania. Spain should be regarded as the English translation of the Roman word "Hispania", as, indeed, etymologically it is. Srnec 17:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I've reverted your edit to {{ Africa in topic}} for reasons I explained in my edit summary. Please get consensus on the talk page if you still want to make the edit. Thanks. Picaroon (Talk) 22:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I add pictures from Terra de Miranda and a unnoficial flag NON-SEPARATIST with the colours that are admit for the mirandese people. I add the name of terra de Miranda (Tierra de Miranda) in his native languague, mirandese. Revert a edition without discusion or say that other wikipidist is a lunatic, the words that was used by The Ogre is vandalism. I respect your POV, not share your interest about the imperialism and the "ethnicity" of the portuguese but I respect.Stop! your vandalism Miranfree 08:10, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Your comment to "block Hayden forever!" on this edit is against WP:CIVIL which says to not call for bans or blocks on other editors.---- Dark Tea 05:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. I noticed you are part of the Portugal group. Maybe you can speak portuguese, which means it is sort of strange that we keep speaking in english. By the way, I live in Évora and let me say that we here do not consider Olivenza as portuguese territory and I think it is a bit strange that Olivenza is still oficially in the district of Évora. It seems a bit odd. Anyways, good luck. If you need any help in articles about Évora or Alentejo, please ask. I'll be happy to support you in anything you need, photos or information! Filipeacaeiro 14:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
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I hereby award you this barnstar for your tireless, invaluable work here. Keep up the good work! Regards, Hús ö nd 15:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC) |
Hi. I just made a suggestion there [7] and I'd like your opinion but since that page is so inactive, I felt like notifying you here... KarenAER 12:19, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the Barnstar, The Ogre! :-) I'm naturally very proud and grateful for this one. Keep up your excellent work as well! :-) Best regards, Hús ö nd 19:21, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
As soon as you can, please comment here Slrubenstein | Talk 03:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree that we need a German. Someone pulled out the German model. But there will be objections on two issues (1) B&W photo, and (2) another politician. I didn't set these rules and don't agree with them, but without compromise we lose support from the broader base. Can we pull down your contribution and sub in another German? -- Kevin Murray 17:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello The Ogre. I just noticed that you've contacted Learnportuguese and gave some advice, just like me and some other editors have recently. I don't know if you already know that this user is blind ( she claimed she was blind on my talk page yesterday), so Learnportuguese is naturally a newbie who will face more difficulties in getting accustomed to editing Wikipedia, its formats, styles, etc.. I thought I should tell you in case you didn't know. Regards, Hús ö nd 17:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
User Hosund is going to help me with the signature thing. Like I said, I am a blind user, so formats can be an issue with my computer. I've been typing the four tildes, and it doesn't look right 'cause I keep being accused of something I'm not intending to do.
learnportuguese 20:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I've discovered a source of 1570 about this, that says that Portugal had a colony in Cape Breton. Take a look in the Portuguese Empire Discussion page. Greetings, Câmara 22:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
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Tem graça que fui ao artigo depois de ler o Público e quando lá cheguei já lá estava a cena... Velho 14:54, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Have done now. Btw, what were you planning to use for your map? Is there a free basemap that shows the area? Because I was thinking of trying to do an EU one at some point. - J Logan t: 16:31, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Safa, Ogre, tás não só o herói da Família, também o herói da Pátria! Só falta dedicares-te um bocadinho a Deus. Velho 22:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
It's me, it really is! I wasn't kidnapped, I just developed a sense of humour (and also decided that satire is the only proper response to this little farce). I ask you to delete your own comments form the talk page as I do not want you to get in trouble for anyone suspecting that you are even seeming to accuse Fourdee of impersonating me. And I did warn Alun about this, so he knows. Sorry to have caused you any distress, it is a joke - I didn't think I would need to explain it. I guess I am a better mimic than I thought! Slrubenstein | Talk 12:48, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I know, I just did it again - sorry, I can't help it. maybe my spirit has been kidnapped, but if so i assure you it is by an imp who is on your side, really. I just can't take these debates seriously any more, at least not today. Slrubenstein | Talk 13:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC) (yes, really!)
Far be it for me to start a revert war and I know all your reasons were good ones, but I think when it is sectioned off in an "irony" section, it is less funny...The joke is in the difficulty in deciding whether it is a joke. (Being a point not about my edit, but about similar-sounding edits by other people) Slrubenstein | Talk 13:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay- but what is boring are the edits by a certain editor whom I shall not name ;) Slrubenstein | Talk 13:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Wow, that is only the second barnstar I have ever gotten here in 6 years and it means a lot to me, really. I guess what really means a lot to me are your kind words. While I have had the will and time to fight on the talk page front I actually feel guilty that I have not fought on the main front - making substantive contributions to the articles. I work in the Amazon and ethnic groups of Europe let alone White people are not my main field of expertise. I recently made some additions to Ethnic group - finally, at least Weber's definition is in. May I ask what your specialties are in sociology? Perhaps you would feel competent adding to the White peoples or European Peoples' articles material on the social construction of Whiteness or White/European ethnic groups? The only book i know for Europe is Cole and Wolf's The Hidden Frontier and some books on Greek Macedonians (or Macedonian Greeks). On the White people talk page, in the section "Bias in this article" I provided a partial bibliography of works on whiteness - if you know any of them well, or other work by sociologists on whites (I guess even Gans's stuff on Italian Americans should be cited) I hope you have the time to do the work that really counts: quiet, but good, accurate, well-researched additions of content to the articles. It is a stuggle, but I'll watch your back and help out if I can. Slrubenstein | Talk 14:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
By the way, how are Ben Anderson and Ernest Gellner's works on nations and nationalism received on the Continent? Slrubenstein | Talk 14:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I hope my phrasing wasn't irritating: based on your user page I inferred perhaps wrongly that you are based in Europe. Anyway, I fully understand your personal policy about how you edit ... alas, I think these kinds of editors require very serious hobbiests, or actual social scientists who are willing to do some writing. I would encourage my own graduate students except like us they have other priorities. It's a pity ... Slrubenstein | Talk 14:00, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I am in the UK which is why I specify "the Continent" for continental Europe - maybe a bad habit. And in light of the debate over at European people - it always seemed to me that if India is a "subcontinent" isn't Europe also a sub-continent of Asia too? (no offence I hope). Anyway, alas, we are only a few. In the US and I suspect most places even people who claim to be utterly opposed to creationism and want evolution taught in schools do not really understand evolutionary theory and how it forces us to change our way of thinking of species, races, whatever. And it always appals me how someone who would never argue with a physicist about physics will argue with a social scientist about social theory. And here at Wikipedia ... Wikipedia would be a success if all professions and areas of expertise were equally represented among its editors, but I fear most editors are still either in IT or teenagers - and while many of them are indeed thoughtful and well-informed editors, it still means that articles on social science and humanities themes are woefully under-researched. Now: I have a grant proposal to work on. Cheers! Slrubenstein | Talk 14:14, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
You can't begin to imagine! If I could get my ass in gear (and away from Wikipedia) this weekend and write real articles (i.e. legit original research), more people would know just how interesting they are! Slrubenstein | Talk 13:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
There has been a big debate over this policy. I think you have valuable experience that makes you an important interlocutor on this matter. I suggest you forst go here for a very concise account, and then depending on how much time you have read over the WP:NOR policy and the edit conflicts that led to its being protected, or the last talk to be archived ... or just go straight to the talk page. Slrubenstein | Talk 16:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Acaba por ter graça, mas o texto não me parece bem, até porque os acrescentos no fim já não fazem parte da litania (acho). Velho 02:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Olá. Mais uma vez, o IP do costume tentou introduzir o link para os seus sites (msn.groups) no artigo nesta Wikipédia e na WikiPortuguesa. Como suspeitava, conheço este "sr." pessoalmente e tentará por todos os meios fazer valer o seu ponto de vista. Se não o conseguir, difamará a Wikipédia nos seus sites. É esperar para ver. Septrya ( talk • contribs) 22:17, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I finally have the signature thing going properly! I don't know why all of a sudden it is linking properly, 'cause I've been typing four ~ characters just as indicated many many times. That was one of the first things I read on Wikipedia when I signed up.
Do you speak Portuguese? Have you been to Portugal or Brazil?
learnportuguese 00:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
MAKE SURE TO "WATCH" MY USER PAGE AND TALK PAGE FOR CONTINUOUS UPDATING! :)
learnportuguese 03:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Just returning your hello. We need to start a user category for this or something... Ogre lawless 01:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Pensei que já não escrevesses na Viquipédia... Velho 11:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks for the info given at List of countries by formation dates, but could you use the SHOW PREVIEW button 1st to make sure all you want to do is ok before using the SAVE PAGE button to submit it. It seems there were several edits done within a few minutes of each other recently. I can understand if something was missed or needed fixing though. A few spelling mistakes were also there, plus a bit long in areas, but I'll fix it up. Thanks That-Vela-Fella ( talk) 20:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, it seems that at the very least it should be renamed to "Latin British" or "Latin Britons". As to whether even this would justify keeping it, I don't know; I'm inclined to think it wouldn't, but I'll think about it some more. You should maybe give it a day or two before proposing deletion. Also, would you please check out Category:People born in Mozambique and let me know what you think? I explained its purpose in the talk page. Thanks. SamEV ( talk) 14:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
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I only noticed you moved "History of Latinos and Hispanics" to "History of Latinos and Hispanics in the United States" after I'd posted my comment on the Hispanics in the United States talk page. I'm considering whether the latter article should move to the corresponding title, i.e. to "Latinos and Hispanics in the United States", or some other title. How about you? Although I find the title very long (I would have preferred just "Latinos and Hispanics") and I think that it should be "Hispanic and Latino" (i.e. the reverse order), I'm for the move because at least it includes the two terms. But ... what about the fact that debate on the move was closed? Or does that just apply to that particular name that was debated?
SamEV (
talk) 23:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Olá.
Há muita confusão à volta dos termos "Latin" e "Latino", o que não é de surpreender porque têm significados múltiplos. Descobri vários artigos relacionados com eles, que não estão lá muito claros, e gostaria de fazer umas alterações, mas também gostava de ter outras opiniões, até porque por hoje estou cansado de editar artigos. Ideias:
Outras páginas interessantes que descobri:
Acho que tudo isto pode e deve ser arrumado e compatibilizado, mas de momento devo confessar que estou demasiado cansado. Problema: o que chamar ao artigo sobre o sentido europeu de "Latin" -- Latin peoples vai ser demasiado confuso de certeza; tem de ser uma página de desambiguação!
Gostaria que me dissesse o que acha. Cumprimentos. FilipeS ( talk) 00:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Caro senhor Ogre, Estou escrevendo porque o senhor modificou indevidamente duas vezes o artigo sobre Madeira. Em uma delas, disse que há milhões de livros que tratam da sua descoberta. Pessoalmente, sou especialista do assunto e não os conheço. (Seria inbteressante que o senhor publique uma parte da lista, me ajudaria muito) O interesse dos dois livros que aí estão é o de serem os únicos, no meu conhecer, que dão a versão da descoberta de acordo com o ponto de vista de Zurara. Espero que esta explicação tenha sido suficiente para que o senhor pare de apagá-los. Muito obrigado. 81.56.141.205 ( talk) 03:40, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
go check the talk page for Latin europe. Oh and also, Bluesky mentions there how Iamandrewrice's work on it was good...i agree... and i think it is only prejudice of you to disagree just because he is now blocked, which had nothing to do with his editing skills. Just2saythis ( talk) 15:11, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I know you prefer not to work on sociological topics but would appreciate it if you could do me a favor. There has been some back-and-forth reorganizing of the article on race as a human classification and I would be very grateful if you would go over the sections on race as a social construction (there are three case-studies) primarily for clarity and style: here ... thanks, Slrubenstein Talk 00:27, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your looking over the section on "social construction: in the race article - I do not have anything specific in mind but I value an outsider's view and also trust that as a scoiologist if there was some gaping error you would spot it immediately. I do not think it is an issue that English is your second language - indeed, many non-native English speakers read English Wikipedia so it is worth trying to make the prose clear and intelligible even to non-native speakers. So that is it - I was just looking for someone knowledgable who could spot anything that is unclear or off-base. Thanks Slrubenstein | Talk 17:18, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Marlith T/ C 00:06, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Stop undoing other peoples edits in the white people page just because you please so. 87.220.201.69 ( talk) 20:15, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Olá. I was just dropping a message because I haven't see any posts from you on my talk page for awhile. Be assured that my talk page is a friendly and dynamic environment with discussion on many aspects of the beautiful and fascinating Portuguese language. Just scroll to any section or the end of anyone's comments and type away. :-) learnportuguese ( talk) 21:48, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Olá. College term starts January 10 and so I won't be on Wikipedia nearly as much. I thought I'd let you know. Just put my pages on your watchlist and you can start new discussions if you want. I think it's excellent what you have contributed so far! :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Learnportuguese ( talk • contribs) 04:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Claro que já aqui não venho (mais de duas vezes ao dia).
Velho (
talk) 21:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
(Olha que um tipo que te acusou de apagares demais no White people talvez tenha um nadinha de razão (sobretudo, no teu penúltimo undo).
Velho (
talk) 21:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Um comentário pouco antes do meu, intitulado "incivility", é capaz de ter aluma razão quanto aos teus edits no
white people.
Velho (
talk) 22:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Não é isso, porra! Aqui: ((redundant with "and other countries from Europe" - Undid revision 183842836 by Ale4117 (talk))) tu cortaste um gajo que até me pareceu de boa fé.
Não estou contra isso que disseste. Mas aquele bocadinho de texto fazia referência a outros países (ou grupos étnicos). Talvez se pudesse aproveitar alguma coisa, sem faz um simples e geral undo.
Velho (
talk) 04:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I'm a newbie here, so, I really espect that it works like this: Thanks for the Welcome :-) Cadroiolos ( talk) 11:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
How can you say there weren't Iberians in Portugal? Are you out of your mind? If Iberians are not the ancient inhabitants of Portugal, so who are they? Opinoso ( talk) 20:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello Sir. I adress to you to tell you that the proclamation of Antonio, prior of Crato, as king of Portugal happened in Santarem on July 24th, 1580, and although he could only reign in the continent up to the battle of Alcántara, on August 25th, the Tomar Courts only recognized Phillip to be king on April 15th, 1581. Have a good time, Ralphloren171 ( talk) 17:19, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
In the context created by pt:Abade Correia da Serra, there can be no question that your recent edit to José Correa de Serra was justified. My question seems a bit awkward, but I'm wondering if you can help me understand why I was wrong in creating this article with a mis-spelling. I first encountered this scholar's name when I read his signature on a nomination letter for a proposed new member of the Royal Society in London. The penmanship is very clear -- hence my error and that of the archivists of the Society. You can see it for yourself, if you like. Isaac Titsingh was elected to membership in the Society in 1797; and his nomination letter has been posted with other similar membership records at the Royal Society web site.
The record identifies those signing Titsingh's nomination letter were: William Marsden, Henry Cavendish, Admiral John Dalrymple, José Correa de Serra, Maxwell Garthshore, William Larkins, John Lloyd, Henry Crathorne, Sir Charles Wilkins.
Also, although it it is no longer readily available for on-line viewing, I did find confirmation for my mistaken view in reading: Abbeé Correa and the genesis of the Monroe Doctrine, John Parry Memorial Lecture, Harvard University (2000).
Could this have been one of those occasions when the conventions of spelling are in flux? -- Ooperhoofd ( talk) 19:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Just reverted the anon again. Is there a story here I don't know about. Dloh cierekim Deleted? 00:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
The user [Dúnadan] has removed my entire paragraph of text and replaced it with his, with no reason whatsoever. If you follow his edits, you can clearly see that he has an agenda, as he has been reverting and removing sections from articles concerning Argentine demographics all across the wiki.
I consider my original text was apropiate for the article, yet the one posted by the Dúnadan is a clear copy-paste of what he typed into Demographics of Argentina. In both articles, [Dúnadan] has reintroduced the controversial UBA study that says 56% of Argentines have amerindian descent. This study has been proven wrong by many others, such as [3], as well as arguments explaining that the supposed "amerindian" markers analized are also present in Spanish and Galician populations, of which Argentina has plenty of descendants.
As a result, the UBA study was considered too controversial, and a consensus was reached to keep it out of the Demographics of Argentina article. Yet this user has been adding it again, and even worse, HAS REWRITTEN MY COUNTRIBUTION WITH NO REASON WHATSOEVER, as he basically posted the same information with a different rewording.
I've made more than 500 contributions to the Wiki, with a dynamic IP, but it's pretty sad to see that so many editors are willing to side against an anonymous editor simply because he's anonymous. I guess I'll have to create a nickname for myself, even though that undermines the purpose of the Wiki itself.
Please take a look on this info I gave you. The genetic study has no bearing whatsoever in the article, unless you also want to include genetic studies on Canada, the USA, Brazil, or Australia, which also show similar levels of admixture. Regards,
--200.117.168.68 (talk) 00:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ogre, I have been looking towards the recients editions on the article white people and this particular user the Dúnadan who has been editing all the articles with the UBA study made surprisingly in all white and demographics articles about Argentina I personally think we should report it as vandalism because he cannot just appear and erase all our contributions just because he wants to put a racist study against Argentina and all ending up in a great discution because that's what he has created..well I wait your opinion
Fercho85 02:32 09 Feb 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 05:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Just an FYI, a banned user ( User:Uhy) occasionally comes to articles that span Portuguese and Spanish topics and subtly erases all mentions of Spanish and emphasizes Portugal, as shown here.- Wafulz ( talk) 05:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Trabalhaste bem ali no pater familias... LOL
Ainda me rio de ter pensado que me estavas a plagiar num artigo académico...
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DOB is fine... please bear in mind that the images will line up differently on different peoples computers. 9 images might look ok on your screen but it might look out of alignment for somebody else.-- Dr who1975 ( talk) 19:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Este verbete na página de discussão na seccão -Protection- foi discutido porque existem regras que são usadas seletivamente. Não sei se poderia dar uma opinião. Obrigado.
I've never heard of him before. I'll have a look at the article later and see if it meets WP:MUSIC. Thanks. Best regards, Hús ö nd 18:38, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I have created a special page for the vote regarding French people images at Talk:French people/Vote, and ported your vote to that new page. I'll set my own choice tomorrow. Good idea you had, hope we'll see some participation in order to make a decision. Best regards - Wikigi | talk to me | 23:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
See the talk page. I think some of these things need careful attention. Thanks Crystalclearchanges ( talk) 16:33, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks again, man! SamEV ( talk) 04:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
It has already been discussed here Talk:War of the Grand Alliance/Archive 1. I'll ask an admin. I didn't realise it was such a complex thing. 21:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello The Ogre. I ask you, please, to stop immediately your reverts. You are the one who called me a vandal in the first place because i reverted the edits of an anonymous who changed the text written by Pistolpierre. What i did was the only thing to do. Do not try to invert the roles. Calling me a vandal for having reverted a vandalism is not acceptable. I do not know what sort of game you are trying to play but it is not nice from your part. Regards. Med ( talk) 19:23, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello Med! First of all let me give you my most sincere and humble apologies! I'm not playing any sort of game, I assure you. It was all a big mistake on my part and I am truly sorry if any of my actions or words have offended you. My mistake was that I thought (though I also thought it strange since it did not agree with you contributons' profile) that you were the one changing some other editor's words (in these case from a supposed Italian version of Napoleon's name to a French one) - my mistake was also provoked by the fact that you (why? can't seem to understand) also changed, when you reversed the anon vandal, Dbachmann's talk link from (𒁳) to (��). Again my strongest and enerst apologies! I wrote in French because I got the impression (wrong?) that you were a French speaker. And in fact I didn't even noticed that I was the one that called you a vandal in the first place! There are days everything one does is wrong and today I deffinitely should have stayed in bed! I'm so sorry for the small confusion I unintentionaly caused. I hope no ill will comes between us in the future should we meet again. Thank you for your understanding and calmeness! The Ogre ( talk) 19:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I had such a hard time trying to figure out how the formula for those ancestry boxes works! That really helped me out. Here's a cookie for each one:
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Thanks again!!! Wilhelmina Will ( talk) 04:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Deveras, As you were writing me I was making changes to the controversy section in Latino. Maybe you can read it and we can discuss what you think and feel can communicate contrasting views in an educational and respectable fashion. I apologize if I offended you in any way. EDGARR ( talk) 06:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok Ogre. However apart from some brief forays to emphasize aome things and make sure a more or less global perspective is being maintained I haven't been paying much attention so I'll now have a look at the arguments, as I've been reducing my obsessiveness in recent months with much success. I'll try to come up to speed on this vandalism issue, however. Provocateur ( talk) 07:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Oye. You say "the articles are intended to be serious, so please don't make joke edits". Have you actually read the artcile or, more importantly, the talk page? That is the joke!! "Readers looking for serious articles will not find them amusing"- For just a moment, let's ignore the blatant POV pushing and "dumbed" down editing... Cm'on- a list of celebrities to help define 3000+ years of culture and history?!?? (By the way, have you ever met a Latin Ukrainian?). Apart from the fact that my "contribution" was a valid statement on the talk page (not the article!) and thus not really vandalism, it was in the same adolescent vein as its context. I've come across this infantile editor before... he is on a rampage. The good faith attempts by you and other seasoned editors will not help. Theredapple ( talk) 17:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
One last thing... it's always the same idiots. Has it occurred to anyone that CCC bears a striking resemblance to User:Iamandrewrice? Thanks for allowing me to vent. Theredapple ( talk) 01:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
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When I first interacted with him (at the Vatican discussion in Talk:Latin European, nine days ago) I had no idea who he was. But since we started working on Latin Europe six days ago, I suspected from that day on that he was Andrew. I decided to show assumption of good faith and leave it to others to decide if he stays or goes, my thinking being that he's getting things moving and is editing constructively. Of course, I didn't know about how it was going at other articles he's editing, but I have no complaints about our interactions at Latin Europe. SamEV ( talk) 16:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I noticed that you have helped the spanish, portuguese people articles with great photos combined together with what was free to use already. I wandered if you could help do the same maybe with 8-10 photos of spanish americans, dont think spanish Britons has many at all at the mo. The problem is that there doesnt seem to be great number of photos of the people..maybe you can help put them together??..rita hayworth has afew photos to choose from...and others in the list of spanish americans. Many thanks if you can help..since i thought what you did was professional. Britannic1 ( talk) 17:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I am not Britanicus, no. Crystalclearchanges ( talk) 19:38, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Ogre! For the thousandth time. :) SamEV ( talk) 00:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I came across your Image:Portuguese People.PNG and I was puzzled by the choice of license. Despite not being familiar with all stipulations of the copyrights laws and only judging from what I know about GFDL, I think that the presence in this patchwork of two images released under GFDL requires the whole of it be released under GFDL, too. The license contains a share-alike clause, which is absent at PD and CC-BY, making it a more restrictive one. (Hopefully you haven't collaged a GFDL and CC-BY-SA because in this case no choice of a license would be adequate enough...) So this is what I had to say, just to edge your attention, and to ask you to review this image or contact more copyright-experienced wikipedians for advice... Cheers! Spiritia ( talk) 06:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
I shall be away for a day or two, but when I return I will take a closer look at that user. Thanks Whit stable 10:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey Ogre, just a short note to thank you for your work. It was a pleasure to team up with you on that one. Cheers - Wikigi | talk to me | 07:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
I understand your ommission of those tribes from the Iberians article and I apologize for re-verting so often (it won't happen anymore). We really need to discuss the matter but I have been so busy with the stubborness of the issue on Talk:French people/Vote (and possible creation of an article for the French ethnic group) that I didnt get much time to read alot of your comments on my own talk page. The chracterization of the peoples in ancient Iberia isn't merely on linguistic grounds but on other aspects of culture as well as ethnicity in genereal (eg. descent). Celtiiberians were a mesh of the Celtic and Iberian cultures, hence why I would argue that they can be included as an Iberian tribe. I know we have similar viewpoints on many matters, including ethnicity and the importance of descent (and related traits) in such, so I want to work with you on such articles as Iberians, not against, lol. Ciao, Epf ( talk) 12:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I created a draft version of WikiProject Human Genetic History; feel free to go to it and flesh it out. Also, given that there has been some comments about starting a task force inside of an existing WikiProject vs. a full-blown project, I've started an informal poll on the WikiProject proposal page. – Swid ( talk · edits) 00:29, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Ogre. I just noticed that Image:Ethnographic Iberia 200 BCE.PNG is your creation. I think it has several important errors and many not less important presumptions that are likely to be wrong as well (or are blanks in our knowledge). I have made a criticism in the image talk page in the hope that you pick up these objections and can improve the map into something really worth it. Not everything must be colored: leaving blank "terra incognita" areas would be a great thing to do in the case of many tribes really. In any case, as something specially exaggerated, the Talayotic culture was not anymore active by 200 BCE. -- Sugaar ( talk) 07:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
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A message which could interest you here. DocteurCosmos ( talk) 14:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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