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More work on baseline for Lexeme entity type for Wiktionary support
Very, very interesting! I think that as a music genre it merits an article. Write it. Look write about it in your "sandbox". First, make a brief "introduction". Second, write the "history" of how it began. Third, write about how the people have reacted to it and finally Four, as a conclusion write it's current status. Add all the references, including books.
Here is an example of an inline reference of a book or newspaper: <ref>"Wickenburg Sun Obituaries"; July 30, 1954; page 5]</ref>
Here is an example of an inline website reference: <ref>[http://obits.arizonagravestones.org/view.php?id=1640 Arizona Obituary Archive]</ref>.
After you write it, I'll look it over before you post it the mainspace. This is really a great thing that you have come up with.
Tony the Marine (
talk)
04:59, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
O.K., I am here to encourage you, not to discharge you. As a person who has written over 700 articles I can truly tell you that I like what you wrote, never mind the AFC comment. I recommend that you do the following:
In the introduction convert the title in bold: Cachi Cachi.
Add the following section "See also" before the "reference" section, example:
Copy the whole article (minus the AFC Template) and post on the main space.
Once the article is up, go the "talk" page of the article and post the following:
{{WikiProjectBannerShell|1=
{{WikiProject Latin music|class=start|importance=top}}
{{WikiProject Puerto Rico|class=B|importance=top}}
{{worldmusicassessed|class=Start|importance=high}}
{{0.7 set nominee|World music}}
{{WikiProject United States Territories|class=
}}}}
I saw it and I love what you did. Keep up the good work. Remember, I am always here for you if and whenever you need some advice.
Tony the Marine (
talk)
16:47, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Now I just have to make 699 more articles.
It's my first article because my other first article got deleted. Why? Because I couldn't think of something positive to say about Felix Vail, a SERIAL KILLER! LOL. Sometimes Wikipedians are funny! This is a better first article anyway. Have a good one Tony The Marine! It was super fun writing this one. I learned a lot.
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
18:56, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
I think it came out good. Yesterday I found some things in a 1903 newspaper. I'll try to find more in the newspaper. I will try to tighten the article a little and YOU are welcome to make any changes you deem necessary. I'm slow to find a topic for my second article. Plus it takes a lot of time!!! I work full-time. :)
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
12:18, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
When I began writing, I wrote about subjects that were unknown and that were omitted from our history books only to be forgotten. I didn't want to write about what everybody already knew. I wanted the world to know that all Puerto Ricans were not drug dealers who lived on welfare as they have often been portrayed. I wanted the world to know about the positive contributions that they have made to the world in general. That is what made writing in Wikipedia fun for me and why I have received recognition's for my work here. I started by writing about our military heroes and then combined all of my bios and ended up with this:
Military history of Puerto Rico. From then on the rest is as they say "history". Remember, just have fun and write what about what you really love writing about. Does that make sense?
Tony the Marine (
talk)
16:35, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
A very perceptive comment about slippery slopes. Nom on that AFD appears, to me, to be working aggressively to delete articles on terrorist attacks, overturning a longstanding trend under which terrorist attacks have been kept.
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
17:25, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Donald Trump vs. ISIS
@
E.M.Gregory:
And Donald Trump is having a good effect on ISIS and I'm glad he talked about these events not getting the coverage as they should. The Egyptian people feel Trump has their back. I'm not sure what the prior U.S. administration was doing over there (and I mean that comment in the MOST SARCASTIC WAY because I DO KNOW the effects they were having on ISIS, until Russia came in and said enough!!).
But many people joke about it. Without help, Egypt would be fighting a losing battle. Did you see the picture of the
Orb. Donald Trump, Al-Sisi and the
KSA joined in an effort to trample extremism. People just laughed about it. People just don't get it. They don't see how we're all connected and how it's all connected and how important the U.S. is in all of this.
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
17:46, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I've been more busy than expected today but I didn't want you to think I have forgotten about the article. From the brief time I had to find sources, I saw this issue has been written about extensively between 2015 to now. My biggest issue so far is probably this simplest part of writing this article: the title. Should it be something like "Terrorism targeting tourism in Egypt" or "Effects of terrorism on tourism in Egypt"? Once I have actual free time tomorrow I can start writing an intro and background.
TheGracefulSlick (
talk)
16:04, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking about. Maybe Attacks Aimed at Tourism in Egypt. I thought the word "terrorist" and "terrorism" turns alot of people off. Should the article exist without "terrorism" in its title. I don't know. I don't have any free time today either! The title of the article IS the biggest issue. Talk to you tomorrow! Peace.
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
16:17, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Do you want me to write it? It could be my 2nd new article. It'd be nice if I had two articles under my belt. My article on a serial killer was speedily deleted because I couldn't think of anything nice to say about "a living person"- you know the policy on Biographies on Living People...
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
16:20, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
I started an outline - can I write it? After all the idea for the article, was mine.
It's an interesting idea, could have links from the tragically large number of attacks on tourist destinations like the
Luxor massacre, and others, but be about the economic impact. Would enable article on individual attacks to be linked here, as well as from
Terrorism in Egypt. Do we have similar articles about other countries?
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
17:16, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
@
E.M.Gregory: 8/1/2017 It'd be great but I do realize it will be quite difficult to find that particular kind of information. I'll search Arabic news articles, but I don't speak Arabic so it would take me some time to get help from Arabic speakers re: economic impact on tourist attack incidents. A recent impact was evident when Israelis stopped going to Egypt for 18 months, then returned under heavy security. Your .02 is greatly appreciated.
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
13:56, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
@
E.M.Gregory: I started writing it. I'm passionate about the topic. I don't know if other similar articles exist for other countries. The articles on all of these topics could use work. In part it's because we don't have a lot of interest or wikipedians who work on these, I think. Please see my sandbox. Your comments or additions are welcome.
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
17:22, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
I saw you started a draft but it isn't entirely written in an encyclopedic style. I can provide examples for clarification if need be. I get the feeling you don't trust me since you once again flip-flopped your vote at AfD so if you prefer I butt out, I will.
TheGracefulSlick (
talk)
01:59, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
We do have
Tourism in Turkey#Threats from terrorism, and probably others. As long as you have at least some
WP:SIGCOV - RS articles that address this topic in depth, there should be no objections to having such an article. I think it removed the risk of WP:UNDUE at the pages like
Tourism in Egypt, although, of course, such pages need to retain a section, linking to the new page. We do need more editors on Egypt, but, of course, we need more editors, period. Good luck writing article!
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
14:12, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi. It's a good start, I think you should keep in mind the need for an encyclopedic tone. making sure to emphasize sourced, preferably measurable impact on the economy.
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
20:01, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
current talk page.
When posting a link to an item to social networks and on messenger apps that show previews the previews will now be nicer and show an image. (
phabricator:T51859)
The Cebuano and Swedish wikis have a lot of bot-created content which is unconnected to other wiki articles. A good way to tackle that problem is by
checking constraint violations for property
GeoNames ID.
Module
Wikidata on Wikidata received an update to improve its performance. If your wiki has forked this one, consider updating it and
report any problems (already reported
one).
Experimental
c:Template:Category contains for categories on Commons, including a per-category Wikidata query. See
introductory discussion on Commons Village Pump. Presented together with current statistics on Commons category <-> Wikidata links
Doing a trial run of allowing search engines to index a number of ArticlePlaceholder pages on Welsh Wikipedia. If there are no major issues we will enable this for all placeholders.
Improving Federation-related after initial tests,
Getting ready to deploy automated sitelinks for Wiktionary
Making final fixes to initial version of Federation (needed to be able to use Wikidata items and properties to describe media on Commons in the future)
More work on baseline for Lexeme entity type for Wiktionary support
Wikidata Query Service got additional servers, the data has been reloaded to fix a number of issues caused by missed updates and an increase of the time-out of 30s is being looked into.
You can now make your
Harvest Templates tasks run automatically. After you have generated a permalink to your task, add &run= to the url. When you open it next time, it will load and then run automatically. Alternatively, you can use &load= which will only prepare the task for running.
Continued to finalize the initial version of Federation (needed to be able to use Wikidata items and properties to describe media on Commons in the future)
More work on baseline for Lexeme entity type for Wiktionary support
Very, very interesting! I think that as a music genre it merits an article. Write it. Look write about it in your "sandbox". First, make a brief "introduction". Second, write the "history" of how it began. Third, write about how the people have reacted to it and finally Four, as a conclusion write it's current status. Add all the references, including books.
Here is an example of an inline reference of a book or newspaper: <ref>"Wickenburg Sun Obituaries"; July 30, 1954; page 5]</ref>
Here is an example of an inline website reference: <ref>[http://obits.arizonagravestones.org/view.php?id=1640 Arizona Obituary Archive]</ref>.
After you write it, I'll look it over before you post it the mainspace. This is really a great thing that you have come up with.
Tony the Marine (
talk)
04:59, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
O.K., I am here to encourage you, not to discharge you. As a person who has written over 700 articles I can truly tell you that I like what you wrote, never mind the AFC comment. I recommend that you do the following:
In the introduction convert the title in bold: Cachi Cachi.
Add the following section "See also" before the "reference" section, example:
Copy the whole article (minus the AFC Template) and post on the main space.
Once the article is up, go the "talk" page of the article and post the following:
{{WikiProjectBannerShell|1=
{{WikiProject Latin music|class=start|importance=top}}
{{WikiProject Puerto Rico|class=B|importance=top}}
{{worldmusicassessed|class=Start|importance=high}}
{{0.7 set nominee|World music}}
{{WikiProject United States Territories|class=
}}}}
I saw it and I love what you did. Keep up the good work. Remember, I am always here for you if and whenever you need some advice.
Tony the Marine (
talk)
16:47, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Now I just have to make 699 more articles.
It's my first article because my other first article got deleted. Why? Because I couldn't think of something positive to say about Felix Vail, a SERIAL KILLER! LOL. Sometimes Wikipedians are funny! This is a better first article anyway. Have a good one Tony The Marine! It was super fun writing this one. I learned a lot.
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
18:56, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
I think it came out good. Yesterday I found some things in a 1903 newspaper. I'll try to find more in the newspaper. I will try to tighten the article a little and YOU are welcome to make any changes you deem necessary. I'm slow to find a topic for my second article. Plus it takes a lot of time!!! I work full-time. :)
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
12:18, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
When I began writing, I wrote about subjects that were unknown and that were omitted from our history books only to be forgotten. I didn't want to write about what everybody already knew. I wanted the world to know that all Puerto Ricans were not drug dealers who lived on welfare as they have often been portrayed. I wanted the world to know about the positive contributions that they have made to the world in general. That is what made writing in Wikipedia fun for me and why I have received recognition's for my work here. I started by writing about our military heroes and then combined all of my bios and ended up with this:
Military history of Puerto Rico. From then on the rest is as they say "history". Remember, just have fun and write what about what you really love writing about. Does that make sense?
Tony the Marine (
talk)
16:35, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
A very perceptive comment about slippery slopes. Nom on that AFD appears, to me, to be working aggressively to delete articles on terrorist attacks, overturning a longstanding trend under which terrorist attacks have been kept.
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
17:25, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Donald Trump vs. ISIS
@
E.M.Gregory:
And Donald Trump is having a good effect on ISIS and I'm glad he talked about these events not getting the coverage as they should. The Egyptian people feel Trump has their back. I'm not sure what the prior U.S. administration was doing over there (and I mean that comment in the MOST SARCASTIC WAY because I DO KNOW the effects they were having on ISIS, until Russia came in and said enough!!).
But many people joke about it. Without help, Egypt would be fighting a losing battle. Did you see the picture of the
Orb. Donald Trump, Al-Sisi and the
KSA joined in an effort to trample extremism. People just laughed about it. People just don't get it. They don't see how we're all connected and how it's all connected and how important the U.S. is in all of this.
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
17:46, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I've been more busy than expected today but I didn't want you to think I have forgotten about the article. From the brief time I had to find sources, I saw this issue has been written about extensively between 2015 to now. My biggest issue so far is probably this simplest part of writing this article: the title. Should it be something like "Terrorism targeting tourism in Egypt" or "Effects of terrorism on tourism in Egypt"? Once I have actual free time tomorrow I can start writing an intro and background.
TheGracefulSlick (
talk)
16:04, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking about. Maybe Attacks Aimed at Tourism in Egypt. I thought the word "terrorist" and "terrorism" turns alot of people off. Should the article exist without "terrorism" in its title. I don't know. I don't have any free time today either! The title of the article IS the biggest issue. Talk to you tomorrow! Peace.
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
16:17, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Do you want me to write it? It could be my 2nd new article. It'd be nice if I had two articles under my belt. My article on a serial killer was speedily deleted because I couldn't think of anything nice to say about "a living person"- you know the policy on Biographies on Living People...
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
16:20, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
I started an outline - can I write it? After all the idea for the article, was mine.
It's an interesting idea, could have links from the tragically large number of attacks on tourist destinations like the
Luxor massacre, and others, but be about the economic impact. Would enable article on individual attacks to be linked here, as well as from
Terrorism in Egypt. Do we have similar articles about other countries?
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
17:16, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
@
E.M.Gregory: 8/1/2017 It'd be great but I do realize it will be quite difficult to find that particular kind of information. I'll search Arabic news articles, but I don't speak Arabic so it would take me some time to get help from Arabic speakers re: economic impact on tourist attack incidents. A recent impact was evident when Israelis stopped going to Egypt for 18 months, then returned under heavy security. Your .02 is greatly appreciated.
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
13:56, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
@
E.M.Gregory: I started writing it. I'm passionate about the topic. I don't know if other similar articles exist for other countries. The articles on all of these topics could use work. In part it's because we don't have a lot of interest or wikipedians who work on these, I think. Please see my sandbox. Your comments or additions are welcome.
the eloquent peasant (
talk)
17:22, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
I saw you started a draft but it isn't entirely written in an encyclopedic style. I can provide examples for clarification if need be. I get the feeling you don't trust me since you once again flip-flopped your vote at AfD so if you prefer I butt out, I will.
TheGracefulSlick (
talk)
01:59, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
We do have
Tourism in Turkey#Threats from terrorism, and probably others. As long as you have at least some
WP:SIGCOV - RS articles that address this topic in depth, there should be no objections to having such an article. I think it removed the risk of WP:UNDUE at the pages like
Tourism in Egypt, although, of course, such pages need to retain a section, linking to the new page. We do need more editors on Egypt, but, of course, we need more editors, period. Good luck writing article!
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
14:12, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi. It's a good start, I think you should keep in mind the need for an encyclopedic tone. making sure to emphasize sourced, preferably measurable impact on the economy.
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
20:01, 4 August 2017 (UTC)