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You do realize, I guess, that with putting in 2 minutes instead of 30 seconds, you could remove any promotional language from these articles and salvage what is left? Most or even all of these journals are well-established and notable. -- Crusio ( talk) 07:55, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
{{
infobox journal}}
has |website=
, |link1=
etc.
LeadSongDog
come howl!
15:53, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
I have nothing against journals, or journal articles, nothing at all. It's just that that is all the guy wrote. So no, nothing else on that list. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 22:02, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Also, from how I interpreted what you've said (and I may have got you wrong), it seems that you were suggesting that I should personally have fundamentally re-written over 50 articles rather than tag them. But the tag clearly reads "This article may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion because it only promotes an entity, person or product and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic". Taggers aren't by any stretch of the imagination required (or even expected) to do that fundamental re-write themselves. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:55, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Whooo-hoooo! Yes, I'm liking that one much better :D That I would have passed straight through without a shadow of a doubt. ( WikiWolfcub shares canine moment with LeadSongDog and presents only-slightly-chewed throw toy in appreciation.) Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 03:18, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
The deletion of the article, as you proposed, is likely to be controversial, and almost as likely to be kept, based on past outcomes. So I removed the prod tag. If you insist, you may start a discussion at WP:AfD. Bearian ( talk) 20:41, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
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Just to let you know that I appreciate your contributions and good-natured manner at WT:V etc. -- Bob K31416 ( talk) 22:55, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
P.S. I had a poem on my user page at one time. Here's an excerpt that includes a link to a video.
-- Bob K31416 ( talk) 23:03, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi again, Your Peskiness. See you at the AfD! -- Shirt58 ( talk) 09:49, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Talk:Jayanagar, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. — Abhishek Talk 12:49, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
No probs - I've asked for urgent help from WikiProject Asia (India) to go through the cleanup on the HUGE number of links now pointing to the disambig page, too :o) (Far too many Jayanagars, Jaynagars, Jainagars, and the 'other' Jayanagar .... out there!) Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:23, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello ThatPeskyCommoner. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Johannes Orphal, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Being a professor makes subject ineligible for A7 / use WP:PROD or WP:AFD instead. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/ Stalk 05:46, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I'd like to ask why was the article for Standard Radiation Environment Monitor marked for deletion, as it allegedly should not contain this text. The was no such article before, so I created the article adding *exactly* the same information found on the website, while also *stating* the source. This is a technical article, how is someone supposed to "say it in his own words"?... Please, have a more thorough look at the page's content next time, no one can adopt a technical website because it's purely "technical", you just state the information as it is found because otherwise it would be marked as "innacurate", and the best way to say it accurately is through the way the original author did.
If you would like to help new contributors start writing pages, please also provide enough examples for article creation, just like this example.
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsk-en12 ( talk • contribs) 09:22, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
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Thank you.
A tag has been placed on Call My Name (CMN), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.
If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, . Clicking that button will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the article's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. You may freely add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.
So, have I not satisfied the condition? Is there anything I can do to keep this article? I can rewrite the article and omit the contents causing it to be nominated for speedy deletion. I am new here and I will appreciate any help. Iamdenman ( talk) 06:14, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Per discussion here, this may be a reverse copyvio. I'm going to AGF, I don't have time to thoroughly investigate at the moment, if you think the claim is mistaken, please feel free to reissue the speedy, and/or bring it to the copyright experts for review.-- SPhilbrick T 00:12, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi there! I thought you might be interested in WikiProject Wikify. We're currently recruiting help to clear a massive backlog (20,839 articles), and we need your help! If you have a spare moment, please join and wikify an article or tell your friends. Sp33dyphil " Ad astra" 03:54, 6 October 2011 (UTC) |
Nooooooooo! heh! Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:43, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
In looking at the article on Evansville, Indiana Fox-affiliated digital subchannel WEVV-DT2 and comparing your revisions with previous ones, I put into question as to why the blogs were commented out as references, citing that a blog is not a reliable reference. The blog posts that had been used as references, actually come from a reputable source. Jake's DTV Blog is operated by Jacob Newkirk, who is the TV and radio columnist for the Evansville Courier & Press newspaper, and Newkirk's stories covered in the blog also appear on Thursdays in in the Courier & Press and on the paper's website. Since the posts come from a reporter/columnist for a daily newspaper, a reputable source, and appear in the aforementioned paper, it is debatable as to whether posts from this particular blog are or aren't a reliable reference and because of the reasons mentioned, may point toward being a reliable reference. TVtonightOKC ( talk) 22:46, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Mate how was the article, History of Indian Football, copyrighted! It is a full description of the History of a country in Football. If you could please tell me where anypart of the article is copyrighted I will gladley disagree or fix the article so there wont be copyright. Thank you. -- Arsenalkid700 ( talk) 13:18, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Glad you're feeling better! Don't worry - we all get those horrendous days, it's just Life! You need to make sure you're in compliance with the policy on ahving more than one account, and if you haven't already done so, notify the "authorities" about your second account, just to remove any possibility of accusations of sock-puppetry. As regards to copyright problems, our main concern in Wikipedia is that pages here mustn't be copied directly from anywhere else at all - it's not about our editors claiming copyright on articles in here themselves. So make absolutely sure that everything you write is done in your own words, and you should be OK. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 21:48, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Did you read the article about De Bokkedoorns? I am totally baffeled that you think that a restaurant that has TWO Michelin stars for the last 20 years is not noteworthy! And why it should be a speedy deletion instead of a normal AfD, is also a mystery to me. Could you please read the article about the Michelin Guide? I don't like the idea of seeing 70% of all the articles I have written being nominated... (yes, I mostly wrote about Michelin starred chefs and restaurants). Night of the Big Wind talk 15:11, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Walter Ungerer is not a copyright violation; that book you linked to is a collection of Wikipedia articles. NW ( Talk) 19:37, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Re-CSD'd as a copy vio from http://lafilmforum.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/december-7-walter-ungerer/ (published in 2008) - our article dates from 2009. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 07:35, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Yup, sometimes I do get things wrong. I try incredibly hard not to get things wrong, I really do.
BUT (and here's the big 'but') - I do a heck of a lot of NPP, working from the back of the queue. Here's where it gets scary - the New Page Patrol report gives us an idea of what's currently going on in NPP. Sometimes - many times - and for much of the time that I'm working, the line which tellls us what's goiung on says "Number of users consistently patrolling the back of the queue: 1".
The "1" being referred to, when I'm working on it, is me. Just me. Nobody else consistently working the back of the queue, a lot of the time. OK, sometimes that number creeps up to a 3, or even an incredible 5! But wow. 1. So, please AGF and bear with me when I make the occasional mistake, OK? I;m not doing it to be nasty. :o) Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:47, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey Speedy! Yes, that info was on the talk page - it obviously just got missed.
Here's a dump of some of the on-screen text, taken from the same time:
User stats
User – number of recent patrols – Average age of patrolled articles – Average time between patrols
ThatPeskyCommoner log –70 –23 days, 3 hours – 2 minutes, 38 seconds
Crusio log – 4–9 minutes, 39 seconds – 17 minutes, 3 seconds
Sp33dyphil log – 3–13 minutes, 11 seconds – 2 minutes, 23 seconds
Polequant log – 3–8 minutes, 53 seconds – 2 minutes, 13 seconds
TheMadBaron log – 11 – 11 days, 2 hours – 14 minutes, 14 seconds
Ruigeroeland log – 1–20 minutes, 14 seconds – N/A
Kudpung log – 1–7 minutes, 36 seconds – N/A
Abhishek191288 log – 2–5 minutes, 40 seconds – 5 minutes, 53 seconds
ClaretAsh log – 2–4 hours, 6 minutes – 14 minutes, 59 seconds
How about joining in on NPP, and making the intense workoad a little lighter? Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:59, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
How did you get that? Sp33dyphil " Ad astra" 07:20, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
@ Montana - oh nooooo, how sad about your mare :o(. It's awful when they go, even though you know they have to, one day - but so much worse if it happens while you're away.
@ Kudpung - I try not to get stressed by the NPP thing; it's only when people misunderstand and get the idea that I'm being vindictive, or something! I have so many brilliant ideas for WP ... like it not allowing an article to be saved in mainspace without inline citations, or without being more than three lines long, or having an automatic grammar checker that would require at least 50% of it to be "OK" - and then offering the new article creator the alternative of saving it into user space (a sandbox or something, auto-titled with (Draft) after their chosen title) ... I'm sure the coding for that wouldn't actually be too difficult for someone to do ..... Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 05:44, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Adding - the other alternative is one I'm working on ... breed our own "fixers"! My younger daughter (don't worry, she's mature, with kids of her own!) has just joined us, and she has a "Fixer" mentality. I've pointed her to all the right pages to learn about policy, and told her about the Typo Team, and I have no doubt that she'll probably join the Guild of copy-editors once she gets going, and I intend to give her some intensive training on new page patrolling, and citation-hunting, too ... she'll be a good 'un, she will ... then I can have someone to keep me company at the back of the queue, and someone I can pass an article over to for clean-up, and all that! Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 05:56, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
The New Page Patroller's Barnstar | ||
It's a thankless and lonely task, but it does get noticed, and remember, you can always ask me for help with the tricky ones :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:07, 9 October 2011 (UTC) |
Here's a good example of some of the detective work we have to do: Yellow Engine. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 07:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Yes, Chzz is seriously miffed by the WP:ACTRIAL thing, too. Would have made at least some of a difference. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 07:54, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
I dunno if there's a link ... Kudpung, if they ever need anyone to brainstorm solutions just as an ideas-generator, just let me know! Coming up with solution-type ideas is a speciality of mine :p Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 10:32, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
You probably know about this one, but if you don't here it is. It's very handy to have open on your desktop while you are patrolling. You need to run some chunks of text through Google first, of course, to get the URLs. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 09:55, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Pesky,
You've nominated this as a G12, citing the PDF report as the source of the copyvio. I can't see any substantial similarities between the report and the article text; it really doesn't look like a G12 violation to me. I've contested deletion on the talkpage there, if I've missed something, please feel free to rebut me on that page. Cheers, Yunshui ( talk) 09:59, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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Can you explain what on my page you thought was copyright infringement? I didn't see a note towards any specific text. Also - was it really necessary to delete my page so quickly before I had a chance to review your comments? I received a speedy deletion notice and then the page was gone less than an hour later. Considering the time it took to create the article - you can imagine my frustration to see you come along and just have my article deleted.
[1] gives a list of reports although I've not had time to look for this one. That said, looking at the contributors talk page I note that the article has been deleted before and the copyvio in that case was of [2], although I've not had a chance to see if that's the case again. I note that the user that has created these doesn't have too many other edits so it shouldn't be too hard to check them and get them deleted. That said I've just noticed that there may be a whole bunch of editors doing this. This looks like a mess. I'd also suggest that the user in this case probably needs to be blocked until they understand copyright policy. I'll look into it all more when I get a chance. Dpmuk ( talk) 12:03, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi ThatPeskyCommoner, I've just wanted you to explain me the reasons of this deletion. I know I've created and written information about a company in which I'm involved personally, but I've done in a way very similar to many other pages that speak about other music publishing companies. I'm also aware that a deletion of a page is judged on their own merit, and not in comparison to other pages, but I really do not think my page was exclusively promotional. I've written just a few words about the publishing company, when was created, where, and about the company activity that's just about publishing music. I've not added much more. I understand that other pages that speak about other publishers have a different value, but just because those publishers are already well know in the music world and made a lot of publications that are worth in the music publishing.industry. Our company is a new born edition, practically still unknown, but with a well specified editorial directions and high quality standards that I'm sure will lead us to become an important publishing house for classical music in the next years. Maybe we have to wait to acquire a more noteworthy name and consequently an encyclopedic importance. Thank you. Aljosa Tavcar ( talk) 17:46, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
I wish you and the company well, and really do hope that very shortly you'll have sufficient recognition and noteworthiness to warrant having an article here. (Oh, and by the way - please ensure you add talk page posts to the bottom of the page, not the top - using the "New section" tab at the top will put your message automatically into the correct place. :o) Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 02:12, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Monasteries in Spain may be a poor machine translation of a Spanish article. The topic is difficult, and this article has many problems. I worked on it in July, but gave up. -- DThomsen8 ( talk) 12:27, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) I get the impression that I'm one of the oldest regular editors around here ;) Nevertheless, we have some brilliant young minds on board here, and at the WMF, and it's a pleasure working with them. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 06:11, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I've removed your tag as the basis of the article seems clear enough. It looks like a rather bad translation - possibly Google, which does fairly well with European languages but can go to pieces with Chinese languages and Japanese. 'Nonsense' is for things like 'cytxtriuui huouyyxytruy' (but check in a Google search (without quotes) to see if these are in fact words in something like Lower Bactrian or Upper Dromedarian. (If they are, put the quotes round to see if it's a copyvio...) It's also for things like 'Swipe the unglutinous aardvark of dawn, mellifluously frightening no kumquats.'. With a title of 'Mesolithic Music'. In other words, not even the worst machine translator could be blamed. (And the text would probably be rejected by a surrealist poetry club...) In other words, things with absolutely no context and looking as if they came from the golden days of spam emails, when the subject lines read like that. (It's fun making this stuff up. Shouldn't say that really. Might encourage them.) Peridon ( talk) 10:30, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
T'riffic! Get 'em stuck in, eh?! Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:12, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Ah, I forgot about that one! And at this time of the morning, it's dialect Neanderthal ... Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 03:34, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
for all your work dealing with problems that don't get dealt with enough! thank you for keeping on working when others just walk away -- Demiurge1000 ( talk) 00:49, 14 October 2011 (UTC) |
Awwww, thanks! Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 03:33, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
You rock! Thank you, and appreciate the helpful insight and in-depth pointers! Ghostrighter ( talk) 06:35, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello, ThatPeskyCommoner! I see your name all the time when I am patrolling at the back of the queue. You do a nice job. However, you do not mark the pages as patrolled once you tag them. It makes my job easier, though, seeing that the problems have already been targeted. Thanks to you, the backlog at Sp:NP is at the lowest level in more than a month. Keep up the good work, Bar Code Symmetry (Talk) 01:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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Archive 1 | ← | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 | Archive 7 | → | Archive 10 |
You do realize, I guess, that with putting in 2 minutes instead of 30 seconds, you could remove any promotional language from these articles and salvage what is left? Most or even all of these journals are well-established and notable. -- Crusio ( talk) 07:55, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
{{
infobox journal}}
has |website=
, |link1=
etc.
LeadSongDog
come howl!
15:53, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
I have nothing against journals, or journal articles, nothing at all. It's just that that is all the guy wrote. So no, nothing else on that list. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 22:02, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Also, from how I interpreted what you've said (and I may have got you wrong), it seems that you were suggesting that I should personally have fundamentally re-written over 50 articles rather than tag them. But the tag clearly reads "This article may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion because it only promotes an entity, person or product and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic". Taggers aren't by any stretch of the imagination required (or even expected) to do that fundamental re-write themselves. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:55, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Whooo-hoooo! Yes, I'm liking that one much better :D That I would have passed straight through without a shadow of a doubt. ( WikiWolfcub shares canine moment with LeadSongDog and presents only-slightly-chewed throw toy in appreciation.) Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 03:18, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
The deletion of the article, as you proposed, is likely to be controversial, and almost as likely to be kept, based on past outcomes. So I removed the prod tag. If you insist, you may start a discussion at WP:AfD. Bearian ( talk) 20:41, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
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In recognition of your 6,000+ edits and your and 5 years and 5 months's presence of Wikipedia, I award you (ThatPeskyCommoner), the Experienced Editor service award. Please wear this (display on your user page) with distinction and pride. (You can update this by yourself as you go). Sp33dyphil " Ad astra" 02:50, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Just to let you know that I appreciate your contributions and good-natured manner at WT:V etc. -- Bob K31416 ( talk) 22:55, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
P.S. I had a poem on my user page at one time. Here's an excerpt that includes a link to a video.
-- Bob K31416 ( talk) 23:03, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi again, Your Peskiness. See you at the AfD! -- Shirt58 ( talk) 09:49, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Talk:Jayanagar, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. — Abhishek Talk 12:49, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
No probs - I've asked for urgent help from WikiProject Asia (India) to go through the cleanup on the HUGE number of links now pointing to the disambig page, too :o) (Far too many Jayanagars, Jaynagars, Jainagars, and the 'other' Jayanagar .... out there!) Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:23, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello ThatPeskyCommoner. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Johannes Orphal, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Being a professor makes subject ineligible for A7 / use WP:PROD or WP:AFD instead. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/ Stalk 05:46, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I'd like to ask why was the article for Standard Radiation Environment Monitor marked for deletion, as it allegedly should not contain this text. The was no such article before, so I created the article adding *exactly* the same information found on the website, while also *stating* the source. This is a technical article, how is someone supposed to "say it in his own words"?... Please, have a more thorough look at the page's content next time, no one can adopt a technical website because it's purely "technical", you just state the information as it is found because otherwise it would be marked as "innacurate", and the best way to say it accurately is through the way the original author did.
If you would like to help new contributors start writing pages, please also provide enough examples for article creation, just like this example.
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsk-en12 ( talk • contribs) 09:22, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles. See the Article Wizard.
Thank you.
A tag has been placed on Call My Name (CMN), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.
If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, . Clicking that button will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the article's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. You may freely add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.
So, have I not satisfied the condition? Is there anything I can do to keep this article? I can rewrite the article and omit the contents causing it to be nominated for speedy deletion. I am new here and I will appreciate any help. Iamdenman ( talk) 06:14, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Per discussion here, this may be a reverse copyvio. I'm going to AGF, I don't have time to thoroughly investigate at the moment, if you think the claim is mistaken, please feel free to reissue the speedy, and/or bring it to the copyright experts for review.-- SPhilbrick T 00:12, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi there! I thought you might be interested in WikiProject Wikify. We're currently recruiting help to clear a massive backlog (20,839 articles), and we need your help! If you have a spare moment, please join and wikify an article or tell your friends. Sp33dyphil " Ad astra" 03:54, 6 October 2011 (UTC) |
Nooooooooo! heh! Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:43, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
In looking at the article on Evansville, Indiana Fox-affiliated digital subchannel WEVV-DT2 and comparing your revisions with previous ones, I put into question as to why the blogs were commented out as references, citing that a blog is not a reliable reference. The blog posts that had been used as references, actually come from a reputable source. Jake's DTV Blog is operated by Jacob Newkirk, who is the TV and radio columnist for the Evansville Courier & Press newspaper, and Newkirk's stories covered in the blog also appear on Thursdays in in the Courier & Press and on the paper's website. Since the posts come from a reporter/columnist for a daily newspaper, a reputable source, and appear in the aforementioned paper, it is debatable as to whether posts from this particular blog are or aren't a reliable reference and because of the reasons mentioned, may point toward being a reliable reference. TVtonightOKC ( talk) 22:46, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Mate how was the article, History of Indian Football, copyrighted! It is a full description of the History of a country in Football. If you could please tell me where anypart of the article is copyrighted I will gladley disagree or fix the article so there wont be copyright. Thank you. -- Arsenalkid700 ( talk) 13:18, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Glad you're feeling better! Don't worry - we all get those horrendous days, it's just Life! You need to make sure you're in compliance with the policy on ahving more than one account, and if you haven't already done so, notify the "authorities" about your second account, just to remove any possibility of accusations of sock-puppetry. As regards to copyright problems, our main concern in Wikipedia is that pages here mustn't be copied directly from anywhere else at all - it's not about our editors claiming copyright on articles in here themselves. So make absolutely sure that everything you write is done in your own words, and you should be OK. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 21:48, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Did you read the article about De Bokkedoorns? I am totally baffeled that you think that a restaurant that has TWO Michelin stars for the last 20 years is not noteworthy! And why it should be a speedy deletion instead of a normal AfD, is also a mystery to me. Could you please read the article about the Michelin Guide? I don't like the idea of seeing 70% of all the articles I have written being nominated... (yes, I mostly wrote about Michelin starred chefs and restaurants). Night of the Big Wind talk 15:11, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Walter Ungerer is not a copyright violation; that book you linked to is a collection of Wikipedia articles. NW ( Talk) 19:37, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Re-CSD'd as a copy vio from http://lafilmforum.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/december-7-walter-ungerer/ (published in 2008) - our article dates from 2009. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 07:35, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Yup, sometimes I do get things wrong. I try incredibly hard not to get things wrong, I really do.
BUT (and here's the big 'but') - I do a heck of a lot of NPP, working from the back of the queue. Here's where it gets scary - the New Page Patrol report gives us an idea of what's currently going on in NPP. Sometimes - many times - and for much of the time that I'm working, the line which tellls us what's goiung on says "Number of users consistently patrolling the back of the queue: 1".
The "1" being referred to, when I'm working on it, is me. Just me. Nobody else consistently working the back of the queue, a lot of the time. OK, sometimes that number creeps up to a 3, or even an incredible 5! But wow. 1. So, please AGF and bear with me when I make the occasional mistake, OK? I;m not doing it to be nasty. :o) Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:47, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey Speedy! Yes, that info was on the talk page - it obviously just got missed.
Here's a dump of some of the on-screen text, taken from the same time:
User stats
User – number of recent patrols – Average age of patrolled articles – Average time between patrols
ThatPeskyCommoner log –70 –23 days, 3 hours – 2 minutes, 38 seconds
Crusio log – 4–9 minutes, 39 seconds – 17 minutes, 3 seconds
Sp33dyphil log – 3–13 minutes, 11 seconds – 2 minutes, 23 seconds
Polequant log – 3–8 minutes, 53 seconds – 2 minutes, 13 seconds
TheMadBaron log – 11 – 11 days, 2 hours – 14 minutes, 14 seconds
Ruigeroeland log – 1–20 minutes, 14 seconds – N/A
Kudpung log – 1–7 minutes, 36 seconds – N/A
Abhishek191288 log – 2–5 minutes, 40 seconds – 5 minutes, 53 seconds
ClaretAsh log – 2–4 hours, 6 minutes – 14 minutes, 59 seconds
How about joining in on NPP, and making the intense workoad a little lighter? Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:59, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
How did you get that? Sp33dyphil " Ad astra" 07:20, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
@ Montana - oh nooooo, how sad about your mare :o(. It's awful when they go, even though you know they have to, one day - but so much worse if it happens while you're away.
@ Kudpung - I try not to get stressed by the NPP thing; it's only when people misunderstand and get the idea that I'm being vindictive, or something! I have so many brilliant ideas for WP ... like it not allowing an article to be saved in mainspace without inline citations, or without being more than three lines long, or having an automatic grammar checker that would require at least 50% of it to be "OK" - and then offering the new article creator the alternative of saving it into user space (a sandbox or something, auto-titled with (Draft) after their chosen title) ... I'm sure the coding for that wouldn't actually be too difficult for someone to do ..... Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 05:44, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Adding - the other alternative is one I'm working on ... breed our own "fixers"! My younger daughter (don't worry, she's mature, with kids of her own!) has just joined us, and she has a "Fixer" mentality. I've pointed her to all the right pages to learn about policy, and told her about the Typo Team, and I have no doubt that she'll probably join the Guild of copy-editors once she gets going, and I intend to give her some intensive training on new page patrolling, and citation-hunting, too ... she'll be a good 'un, she will ... then I can have someone to keep me company at the back of the queue, and someone I can pass an article over to for clean-up, and all that! Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 05:56, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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It's a thankless and lonely task, but it does get noticed, and remember, you can always ask me for help with the tricky ones :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:07, 9 October 2011 (UTC) |
Here's a good example of some of the detective work we have to do: Yellow Engine. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 07:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Yes, Chzz is seriously miffed by the WP:ACTRIAL thing, too. Would have made at least some of a difference. Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 07:54, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
I dunno if there's a link ... Kudpung, if they ever need anyone to brainstorm solutions just as an ideas-generator, just let me know! Coming up with solution-type ideas is a speciality of mine :p Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 10:32, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
You probably know about this one, but if you don't here it is. It's very handy to have open on your desktop while you are patrolling. You need to run some chunks of text through Google first, of course, to get the URLs. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 09:55, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Pesky,
You've nominated this as a G12, citing the PDF report as the source of the copyvio. I can't see any substantial similarities between the report and the article text; it really doesn't look like a G12 violation to me. I've contested deletion on the talkpage there, if I've missed something, please feel free to rebut me on that page. Cheers, Yunshui ( talk) 09:59, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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Can you explain what on my page you thought was copyright infringement? I didn't see a note towards any specific text. Also - was it really necessary to delete my page so quickly before I had a chance to review your comments? I received a speedy deletion notice and then the page was gone less than an hour later. Considering the time it took to create the article - you can imagine my frustration to see you come along and just have my article deleted.
[1] gives a list of reports although I've not had time to look for this one. That said, looking at the contributors talk page I note that the article has been deleted before and the copyvio in that case was of [2], although I've not had a chance to see if that's the case again. I note that the user that has created these doesn't have too many other edits so it shouldn't be too hard to check them and get them deleted. That said I've just noticed that there may be a whole bunch of editors doing this. This looks like a mess. I'd also suggest that the user in this case probably needs to be blocked until they understand copyright policy. I'll look into it all more when I get a chance. Dpmuk ( talk) 12:03, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi ThatPeskyCommoner, I've just wanted you to explain me the reasons of this deletion. I know I've created and written information about a company in which I'm involved personally, but I've done in a way very similar to many other pages that speak about other music publishing companies. I'm also aware that a deletion of a page is judged on their own merit, and not in comparison to other pages, but I really do not think my page was exclusively promotional. I've written just a few words about the publishing company, when was created, where, and about the company activity that's just about publishing music. I've not added much more. I understand that other pages that speak about other publishers have a different value, but just because those publishers are already well know in the music world and made a lot of publications that are worth in the music publishing.industry. Our company is a new born edition, practically still unknown, but with a well specified editorial directions and high quality standards that I'm sure will lead us to become an important publishing house for classical music in the next years. Maybe we have to wait to acquire a more noteworthy name and consequently an encyclopedic importance. Thank you. Aljosa Tavcar ( talk) 17:46, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
I wish you and the company well, and really do hope that very shortly you'll have sufficient recognition and noteworthiness to warrant having an article here. (Oh, and by the way - please ensure you add talk page posts to the bottom of the page, not the top - using the "New section" tab at the top will put your message automatically into the correct place. :o) Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 02:12, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Monasteries in Spain may be a poor machine translation of a Spanish article. The topic is difficult, and this article has many problems. I worked on it in July, but gave up. -- DThomsen8 ( talk) 12:27, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) I get the impression that I'm one of the oldest regular editors around here ;) Nevertheless, we have some brilliant young minds on board here, and at the WMF, and it's a pleasure working with them. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 06:11, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I've removed your tag as the basis of the article seems clear enough. It looks like a rather bad translation - possibly Google, which does fairly well with European languages but can go to pieces with Chinese languages and Japanese. 'Nonsense' is for things like 'cytxtriuui huouyyxytruy' (but check in a Google search (without quotes) to see if these are in fact words in something like Lower Bactrian or Upper Dromedarian. (If they are, put the quotes round to see if it's a copyvio...) It's also for things like 'Swipe the unglutinous aardvark of dawn, mellifluously frightening no kumquats.'. With a title of 'Mesolithic Music'. In other words, not even the worst machine translator could be blamed. (And the text would probably be rejected by a surrealist poetry club...) In other words, things with absolutely no context and looking as if they came from the golden days of spam emails, when the subject lines read like that. (It's fun making this stuff up. Shouldn't say that really. Might encourage them.) Peridon ( talk) 10:30, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
T'riffic! Get 'em stuck in, eh?! Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 06:12, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Ah, I forgot about that one! And at this time of the morning, it's dialect Neanderthal ... Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 03:34, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
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for all your work dealing with problems that don't get dealt with enough! thank you for keeping on working when others just walk away -- Demiurge1000 ( talk) 00:49, 14 October 2011 (UTC) |
Awwww, thanks! Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 03:33, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
You rock! Thank you, and appreciate the helpful insight and in-depth pointers! Ghostrighter ( talk) 06:35, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello, ThatPeskyCommoner! I see your name all the time when I am patrolling at the back of the queue. You do a nice job. However, you do not mark the pages as patrolled once you tag them. It makes my job easier, though, seeing that the problems have already been targeted. Thanks to you, the backlog at Sp:NP is at the lowest level in more than a month. Keep up the good work, Bar Code Symmetry (Talk) 01:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)