A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Exonucleophagy is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
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Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Remember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations (There are several kinds of sources that discuss health: here is how the community classifies them and uses them). WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here. The edit box has a built-in citation tool to easily format references based on the PMID or ISBN. We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 21:58, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
The article Exonucleophagy has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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Nothing has changed since two years ago; this term still doesn't exist in English. Mathglot ( talk) 23:46, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Remember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations (There are several kinds of sources that discuss health: here is how the community classifies them and uses them). WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here. The edit box has a built-in citation tool to easily format references based on the PMID or ISBN. We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note. Jytdog ( talk) 00:41, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Tdebouches,
I wanted to raise three issues with you:
I have noticed in several articles relating to odontology, that whenever sources by Mark Bonner are inserted into one of these articles, more often than not it is either by you, such as this edit at Periodontitis; or by User Mark Bonner dmd ( talk · contribs) (and likewise by French user Mark Bonner dmd at French wikipedia.) This is especially in connection with a book by Bonner [1] published by Amyris Editions. Amyris is a publisher of texts in holistic medicine in Brussels, and their works have unrecognized isbns, and generally are not found in Google Books or in WorldCat, see e.g. the oldest version of Trichomonas tenax. I'll let specialists in MEDRS (@ Doc James and Jytdog:), which I am not, comment on this.
The "French connection" here suggests that your username is a reference to one of Bonner's books, entitled, Tant de bouches à guérir. [2] This, and the history of insertions by you makes me wonder if you have some connection with Bonner that should be disclosed, to conform with Wikipedia's policy on conflict of interest. I'll add the standard boilerplate about this in a follow-up shortly (and apologies in advance for templating).
I will add some additional diffs on this later. Cordially, Mathglot ( talk) 04:38, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
So, here's the promised COI info:
In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).
Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.To be more specific: can you disclose if you have some kind of connection with author Mark Bonner, or with Wikipedia User Mark Bonner dmd or Institut International de Parodontie, or with Tdebouches's channel on YouTube? You don't have to disclose the nature of the connections if you don't wish to (although you may), just whether you do, or don't have some connection with Bonner. Feel free to elaborate, though, if you wish to.
Finally, you should be aware of Wikipedia's guidelines on usage of multiple accounts. The general rule is, one editor, one account. There are some legitimate reasons for use of multiple accounts, and if that is the case for you, this page explains how to disclose these, to avoid giving the impression of being a sock puppet, that is, a deceptive user of multiple accounts? If you have other accounts registered at Wikipedia, please disclose them now. Mathglot ( talk) 08:51, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
References
Mark Bonner dmd for Tdebouches. Jytdog ( talk) 01:51, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Tdebouches: I see that rather than address this, you've instead subsequently used your sandbox to recreate your "Exonucleophagy" article, including a reference to Bonner's book in the very first version, and submitted it to Afc. Putting the best possible interpretation on that would be that you're attempting to follow WP:MEDCOI, but in a back-handed way by skipping the disclosure part, which is a necessary part of it. (The Afc evaluator was certainly not aware of it.) It looks to me like you're (barely) paying lip service to guidelines, but are essentially not here to build an encyclopedia, but maybe to boost the PageRank of pages that mention Mark Bonner. Any comment? Mathglot ( talk) 02:34, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Hello! Tdebouches,
I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the
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Your recent editing history at Periodontitis shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Jytdog ( talk) 01:47, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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We put years ago text on micoscopy of biofilm in periodontal disease. This is medecine reality of the disease. Somebody remove this knowledge regularly for years. It does hide medical reality of the disease known from 1849- 1914- 1927- 1980- 2003- 2011- 2015 references and medical biologic facts. Impact is important as 2 billions humans are affected by this infection and are unaware of their condition. We ask to leave this information « biofilm microscopy » about the disease. Hiding this information should be considered criminal. Cordially Tdebouches ( talk) 00:27, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
You continue to use refs that are dozens of years old and continue to link to source by yourself. Can you please stop. Thank you. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 14:33, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
.
NeilN
talk to me
15:36, 11 January 2018 (UTC)Next block will be a lengthy one if the same behavior continues. -- NeilN talk to me 15:38, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
I would like some help. There is a dispute on Periodontitis. After edit war, I was asked to do it bold so to reach consensus with I do not know who! I did changed the edition, and tried to find different whriting. But I have been removed my new editing again I do not know what for... and block 72 hours ! I do not understand... Does not Bold edition be ok??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tdebouches ( talk • contribs) 16:50, January 11, 2018 (UTC) Moved to bottom of page, signed, section title added; by Mathglot ( talk) 19:38, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
For more than a century, Entamoeba gingivalis has been described in active periodontal infections. This suggests from the microscopic examination of the sulcus biofilm a high correlation between the presence of the amoeba Entamoeba gingivalis and the active periodontal disease called then pyorrhea[52]. This notion was highlighted half a century later and corroborated by demonstrating that the biofilm of gingival health is constituted for the most part by nonmotile bacteria. Gingivitis on the other part predominantly contains motile bacteria of the bacillus, spirilla and vibrios type, accompanied by a significant number of PMN leukocytes. Finally periodontitis proceeds from a bacterial state similar to gingivitis but adding the frequent presence of the protozoan Entamoeba gingivalis, sometimes that of Trichomonas tenax and a more than significant number of granulocytes[53]. This view point, applied in the 1980s by a Canadian dentist, confirms, according to him, periodontal healing including bone regeneration by finding, through hygiene and pharmaceutical medical methods, a commensal biofilm made up for the most part of cocoid bacteria and various immobile filaments, and absence of leucocytes[54][55]. Entamoeba gingivalis has displacement capacity, apparent adherence to blood cells, stops PMN granular activity of PMN and clearly phagocytize PMN nucleus which makes it a potential aggressive pathogen[56]. This microscopic correlation has recently been confirmed with PCR molecular biology studies on the presence of this protozoan in cases of periodontal active disease and its absence in the gingival, even local, situation[57]. This antiparasitic technique proposed as an effective therapy to overcome periodontitis is based on the process of stopping phagocytosis of the leucocyte nucleus PMN by the amoeba, thus releasing an enucleated cell, discharging its content of proteolytic enzymes onto the surrounding tissues in the image of the amoebic abscess of the liver from Entamoeba histolytica considered pathogenic in amoebic dysentery[58]. It has the advantage of eliminating the pathogenic bacteria concomitant with the protozoa and may, at minimum, be seen as targets easy to visualize by the dentist and the patient on phase contrast microscopy on a saliva mount. This so-called exonucleophagy would be the cause of local deterioration beyond the control of the immune system in the periodontal pocket and possibly peri-implantitis, as a result of systematic presence of the protozoan. The phantom released PMNs cells hollowed out of their nucleus than are unable to continue their defense activity "NETS [archive]" nor normal apoptosis. Flagellate Trichomonas tenax pathogen is also present in about 5 to 20% of active periodontitis and seems to render periodontitis more aggressive[59]. Early data on such an antiparasitic treatment appear to be effective in healing the periodontal sulcus[60]. Microbes and white blood cell identification gives a new target for therapeutic attempts against this disease. Tdebouches ( talk) 13:21, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
For more than a century, Entamoeba gingivalis has been described in active periodontal infections. This suggests from the microscopic examination of the sulcus biofilm a high correlation between the presence of the amoeba Entamoeba gingivalis and the active periodontal disease called then pyorrhea[52]. This notion was highlighted half a century later and corroborated by demonstrating that the biofilm of gingival health is constituted for the most part by nonmotile bacteria. Gingivitis on the other part predominantly contains motile bacteria of the bacillus, spirilla and vibrios type, accompanied by a significant number of PMN leukocytes. Finally periodontitis proceeds from a bacterial state similar to gingivitis but adding the frequent presence of the protozoan Entamoeba gingivalis, sometimes that of Trichomonas tenax and a more than significant number of granulocytes[53]. This view point, applied in the 1980s by a Canadian dentist, confirms, according to him, periodontal healing including bone regeneration by finding, through hygiene and pharmaceutical medical methods, a commensal biofilm made up for the most part of cocoid bacteria and various immobile filaments, and absence of leucocytes[54][55]. Entamoeba gingivalis has displacement capacity, apparent adherence to blood cells, stops PMN granular activity of PMN and clearly phagocytize PMN nucleus which makes it a potential aggressive pathogen[56]. This microscopic correlation has recently been confirmed with PCR molecular biology studies on the presence of this protozoan in cases of periodontal active disease and its absence in the gingival, even local, situation[57]. This antiparasitic technique proposed as an effective therapy to overcome periodontitis is based on the process of stopping phagocytosis of the leucocyte nucleus PMN by the amoeba, thus releasing an enucleated cell, discharging its content of proteolytic enzymes onto the surrounding tissues in the image of the amoebic abscess of the liver from Entamoeba histolytica considered pathogenic in amoebic dysentery[58]. It has the advantage of eliminating the pathogenic bacteria concomitant with the protozoa and may, at minimum, be seen as targets easy to visualize by the dentist and the patient on phase contrast microscopy on a saliva mount. This so-called exonucleophagy would be the cause of local deterioration beyond the control of the immune system in the periodontal pocket and possibly peri-implantitis, as a result of systematic presence of the protozoan. The phantom released PMNs cells hollowed out of their nucleus than are unable to continue their defense activity "NETS [archive]" nor normal apoptosis. Flagellate Trichomonas tenax pathogen is also present in about 5 to 20% of active periodontitis and seems to render periodontitis more aggressive[59]. Early data on such an antiparasitic treatment appear to be effective in healing the periodontal sulcus[60]. Microbes and white blood cell identification gives a new target for therapeutic attempts against this disease. Tdebouches ( talk) 14:40, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
I did put different text with some changes and removed Youtubes. Now, can I use this text as added section of periodontitis??? Without it being removed by I do not know who! And not starting a edit war for which I am always the looser for many years? How come the other part can remove it and I be the looser and I presume others don not know anything in science about microscopy of biofilm in periodontitis???? Thanks Tdebouches ( talk) 18:42, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Est-ce qu'il y une raison pour laquelle vous ne répondez jamais vos messages laissés ici par des autres utilisateurs? Bien cordialement, Mathglot ( talk) 02:22, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Bonjour. Je ne vois pas trop ces messages don't vous me parlez. Et des mails je sombre dans des centaines par jour! Et je ne suis pas informatitien mais dentiste chercheur! J essaie de contribuer, mais vous etes trop conservateur et standard! De toute facon vous detruisez tout ce que je propose de mon savoir. Alors oubliez moi, je vais arreter de contribuer a Wiki. Je laisserai les autres ecrire mes connaissances dans une decennie. Juste dommage pour la population malade! Vous etes trop compliqué, et pour enlever ce que j ai fait il doit surement y avoir des sous derriere! Désolé. Bon Wiki Tdebouches ( talk) 12:48, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Hello, I really don't see those messages you're talking about. As far as emails, I'm inundated by hundreds of them a day! And, I'm no programmer, but just a research dentist! I try to contribute, but you are too conservative and standardized. In any case, you are wrecking everything I'm putting out there from my own expertise. So, just forget me, I'm going to stop contributing to Wiki. I'll let the others write about what I know now in a decade from now. It's just a pity for those who are sick! You are too complicated, and for someone who's removing stuff that I did, there's gotta be money behind it all. Sorry. Happy wiki-ing, /sig/ User:Tdebouches 12:48 8 February 2018 (UTC) — transl. Mathglot ( talk) 13:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Exonucleophagy is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Exonucleophagy until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Matthew Ferguson ( talk) 09:55, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Remember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations (There are several kinds of sources that discuss health: here is how the community classifies them and uses them). WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here. The edit box has a built-in citation tool to easily format references based on the PMID or ISBN. We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 06:17, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Please do not add or change content without citing a
reliable source. Please review the guidelines at
Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you.
Jac16888
Talk
20:00, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Remember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations (There are several kinds of sources that discuss health: here is how the community classifies them and uses them). WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here. The edit box has a built-in citation tool to easily format references based on the PMID or ISBN. We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 21:58, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
The article Exonucleophagy has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Non-notable; term does not exist in English; no attestations in English outside wikis and other user-provided content; one Croatian journal ref has it double-quoted as a neologism in the article.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
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proposed deletion process, but other
deletion processes exist. In particular, the
speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and
articles for deletion allows discussion to reach
consensus for deletion.
Nothing has changed since two years ago; this term still doesn't exist in English. Mathglot ( talk) 23:46, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Remember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations (There are several kinds of sources that discuss health: here is how the community classifies them and uses them). WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here. The edit box has a built-in citation tool to easily format references based on the PMID or ISBN. We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note. Jytdog ( talk) 00:41, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Tdebouches,
I wanted to raise three issues with you:
I have noticed in several articles relating to odontology, that whenever sources by Mark Bonner are inserted into one of these articles, more often than not it is either by you, such as this edit at Periodontitis; or by User Mark Bonner dmd ( talk · contribs) (and likewise by French user Mark Bonner dmd at French wikipedia.) This is especially in connection with a book by Bonner [1] published by Amyris Editions. Amyris is a publisher of texts in holistic medicine in Brussels, and their works have unrecognized isbns, and generally are not found in Google Books or in WorldCat, see e.g. the oldest version of Trichomonas tenax. I'll let specialists in MEDRS (@ Doc James and Jytdog:), which I am not, comment on this.
The "French connection" here suggests that your username is a reference to one of Bonner's books, entitled, Tant de bouches à guérir. [2] This, and the history of insertions by you makes me wonder if you have some connection with Bonner that should be disclosed, to conform with Wikipedia's policy on conflict of interest. I'll add the standard boilerplate about this in a follow-up shortly (and apologies in advance for templating).
I will add some additional diffs on this later. Cordially, Mathglot ( talk) 04:38, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
So, here's the promised COI info:
In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).
Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.To be more specific: can you disclose if you have some kind of connection with author Mark Bonner, or with Wikipedia User Mark Bonner dmd or Institut International de Parodontie, or with Tdebouches's channel on YouTube? You don't have to disclose the nature of the connections if you don't wish to (although you may), just whether you do, or don't have some connection with Bonner. Feel free to elaborate, though, if you wish to.
Finally, you should be aware of Wikipedia's guidelines on usage of multiple accounts. The general rule is, one editor, one account. There are some legitimate reasons for use of multiple accounts, and if that is the case for you, this page explains how to disclose these, to avoid giving the impression of being a sock puppet, that is, a deceptive user of multiple accounts? If you have other accounts registered at Wikipedia, please disclose them now. Mathglot ( talk) 08:51, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
References
Mark Bonner dmd for Tdebouches. Jytdog ( talk) 01:51, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
@ Tdebouches: I see that rather than address this, you've instead subsequently used your sandbox to recreate your "Exonucleophagy" article, including a reference to Bonner's book in the very first version, and submitted it to Afc. Putting the best possible interpretation on that would be that you're attempting to follow WP:MEDCOI, but in a back-handed way by skipping the disclosure part, which is a necessary part of it. (The Afc evaluator was certainly not aware of it.) It looks to me like you're (barely) paying lip service to guidelines, but are essentially not here to build an encyclopedia, but maybe to boost the PageRank of pages that mention Mark Bonner. Any comment? Mathglot ( talk) 02:34, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Hello! Tdebouches,
I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the
Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the
Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there!
Curb Safe Charmer (
talk)
21:05, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
|
Your recent editing history at Periodontitis shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Jytdog ( talk) 01:47, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on
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Jytdog (
talk)
23:13, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
We put years ago text on micoscopy of biofilm in periodontal disease. This is medecine reality of the disease. Somebody remove this knowledge regularly for years. It does hide medical reality of the disease known from 1849- 1914- 1927- 1980- 2003- 2011- 2015 references and medical biologic facts. Impact is important as 2 billions humans are affected by this infection and are unaware of their condition. We ask to leave this information « biofilm microscopy » about the disease. Hiding this information should be considered criminal. Cordially Tdebouches ( talk) 00:27, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
You continue to use refs that are dozens of years old and continue to link to source by yourself. Can you please stop. Thank you. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 14:33, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
.
NeilN
talk to me
15:36, 11 January 2018 (UTC)Next block will be a lengthy one if the same behavior continues. -- NeilN talk to me 15:38, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
I would like some help. There is a dispute on Periodontitis. After edit war, I was asked to do it bold so to reach consensus with I do not know who! I did changed the edition, and tried to find different whriting. But I have been removed my new editing again I do not know what for... and block 72 hours ! I do not understand... Does not Bold edition be ok??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tdebouches ( talk • contribs) 16:50, January 11, 2018 (UTC) Moved to bottom of page, signed, section title added; by Mathglot ( talk) 19:38, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
For more than a century, Entamoeba gingivalis has been described in active periodontal infections. This suggests from the microscopic examination of the sulcus biofilm a high correlation between the presence of the amoeba Entamoeba gingivalis and the active periodontal disease called then pyorrhea[52]. This notion was highlighted half a century later and corroborated by demonstrating that the biofilm of gingival health is constituted for the most part by nonmotile bacteria. Gingivitis on the other part predominantly contains motile bacteria of the bacillus, spirilla and vibrios type, accompanied by a significant number of PMN leukocytes. Finally periodontitis proceeds from a bacterial state similar to gingivitis but adding the frequent presence of the protozoan Entamoeba gingivalis, sometimes that of Trichomonas tenax and a more than significant number of granulocytes[53]. This view point, applied in the 1980s by a Canadian dentist, confirms, according to him, periodontal healing including bone regeneration by finding, through hygiene and pharmaceutical medical methods, a commensal biofilm made up for the most part of cocoid bacteria and various immobile filaments, and absence of leucocytes[54][55]. Entamoeba gingivalis has displacement capacity, apparent adherence to blood cells, stops PMN granular activity of PMN and clearly phagocytize PMN nucleus which makes it a potential aggressive pathogen[56]. This microscopic correlation has recently been confirmed with PCR molecular biology studies on the presence of this protozoan in cases of periodontal active disease and its absence in the gingival, even local, situation[57]. This antiparasitic technique proposed as an effective therapy to overcome periodontitis is based on the process of stopping phagocytosis of the leucocyte nucleus PMN by the amoeba, thus releasing an enucleated cell, discharging its content of proteolytic enzymes onto the surrounding tissues in the image of the amoebic abscess of the liver from Entamoeba histolytica considered pathogenic in amoebic dysentery[58]. It has the advantage of eliminating the pathogenic bacteria concomitant with the protozoa and may, at minimum, be seen as targets easy to visualize by the dentist and the patient on phase contrast microscopy on a saliva mount. This so-called exonucleophagy would be the cause of local deterioration beyond the control of the immune system in the periodontal pocket and possibly peri-implantitis, as a result of systematic presence of the protozoan. The phantom released PMNs cells hollowed out of their nucleus than are unable to continue their defense activity "NETS [archive]" nor normal apoptosis. Flagellate Trichomonas tenax pathogen is also present in about 5 to 20% of active periodontitis and seems to render periodontitis more aggressive[59]. Early data on such an antiparasitic treatment appear to be effective in healing the periodontal sulcus[60]. Microbes and white blood cell identification gives a new target for therapeutic attempts against this disease. Tdebouches ( talk) 13:21, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
For more than a century, Entamoeba gingivalis has been described in active periodontal infections. This suggests from the microscopic examination of the sulcus biofilm a high correlation between the presence of the amoeba Entamoeba gingivalis and the active periodontal disease called then pyorrhea[52]. This notion was highlighted half a century later and corroborated by demonstrating that the biofilm of gingival health is constituted for the most part by nonmotile bacteria. Gingivitis on the other part predominantly contains motile bacteria of the bacillus, spirilla and vibrios type, accompanied by a significant number of PMN leukocytes. Finally periodontitis proceeds from a bacterial state similar to gingivitis but adding the frequent presence of the protozoan Entamoeba gingivalis, sometimes that of Trichomonas tenax and a more than significant number of granulocytes[53]. This view point, applied in the 1980s by a Canadian dentist, confirms, according to him, periodontal healing including bone regeneration by finding, through hygiene and pharmaceutical medical methods, a commensal biofilm made up for the most part of cocoid bacteria and various immobile filaments, and absence of leucocytes[54][55]. Entamoeba gingivalis has displacement capacity, apparent adherence to blood cells, stops PMN granular activity of PMN and clearly phagocytize PMN nucleus which makes it a potential aggressive pathogen[56]. This microscopic correlation has recently been confirmed with PCR molecular biology studies on the presence of this protozoan in cases of periodontal active disease and its absence in the gingival, even local, situation[57]. This antiparasitic technique proposed as an effective therapy to overcome periodontitis is based on the process of stopping phagocytosis of the leucocyte nucleus PMN by the amoeba, thus releasing an enucleated cell, discharging its content of proteolytic enzymes onto the surrounding tissues in the image of the amoebic abscess of the liver from Entamoeba histolytica considered pathogenic in amoebic dysentery[58]. It has the advantage of eliminating the pathogenic bacteria concomitant with the protozoa and may, at minimum, be seen as targets easy to visualize by the dentist and the patient on phase contrast microscopy on a saliva mount. This so-called exonucleophagy would be the cause of local deterioration beyond the control of the immune system in the periodontal pocket and possibly peri-implantitis, as a result of systematic presence of the protozoan. The phantom released PMNs cells hollowed out of their nucleus than are unable to continue their defense activity "NETS [archive]" nor normal apoptosis. Flagellate Trichomonas tenax pathogen is also present in about 5 to 20% of active periodontitis and seems to render periodontitis more aggressive[59]. Early data on such an antiparasitic treatment appear to be effective in healing the periodontal sulcus[60]. Microbes and white blood cell identification gives a new target for therapeutic attempts against this disease. Tdebouches ( talk) 14:40, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
I did put different text with some changes and removed Youtubes. Now, can I use this text as added section of periodontitis??? Without it being removed by I do not know who! And not starting a edit war for which I am always the looser for many years? How come the other part can remove it and I be the looser and I presume others don not know anything in science about microscopy of biofilm in periodontitis???? Thanks Tdebouches ( talk) 18:42, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Est-ce qu'il y une raison pour laquelle vous ne répondez jamais vos messages laissés ici par des autres utilisateurs? Bien cordialement, Mathglot ( talk) 02:22, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Bonjour. Je ne vois pas trop ces messages don't vous me parlez. Et des mails je sombre dans des centaines par jour! Et je ne suis pas informatitien mais dentiste chercheur! J essaie de contribuer, mais vous etes trop conservateur et standard! De toute facon vous detruisez tout ce que je propose de mon savoir. Alors oubliez moi, je vais arreter de contribuer a Wiki. Je laisserai les autres ecrire mes connaissances dans une decennie. Juste dommage pour la population malade! Vous etes trop compliqué, et pour enlever ce que j ai fait il doit surement y avoir des sous derriere! Désolé. Bon Wiki Tdebouches ( talk) 12:48, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Hello, I really don't see those messages you're talking about. As far as emails, I'm inundated by hundreds of them a day! And, I'm no programmer, but just a research dentist! I try to contribute, but you are too conservative and standardized. In any case, you are wrecking everything I'm putting out there from my own expertise. So, just forget me, I'm going to stop contributing to Wiki. I'll let the others write about what I know now in a decade from now. It's just a pity for those who are sick! You are too complicated, and for someone who's removing stuff that I did, there's gotta be money behind it all. Sorry. Happy wiki-ing, /sig/ User:Tdebouches 12:48 8 February 2018 (UTC) — transl. Mathglot ( talk) 13:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)