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The information in the article is 100% correct. The reference does say the Mandukya Upanishad itself was influenced by Buddhism. There is no confusion with the Karika's, which were also influenced by Buddhism. VictoriaGrayson Talk 19:57, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
This is quite absurd...why is one reference + another flawed one, more credible then the other three mentioned in the Vedanta article, i.e., Deussen, Ranade, and Radhakrishan. I think this is a big mistake, a blunder. Sankhya, Vedanta, and Theravada were well aware of 'turiya' or 'shunyata' around 500 BCE. Thus in Theravada, there is the concept of Shunyata, so that itself predtes the Mahayana--see for example Bikku Bhodih's translations of the earliest Pali Scripts. You are being very authoritarian making changes without first discussing them. Further, if you read the actual upanishad, it uses a different concept than shunyata. It uses the concept of turiya. It is like a half full glass of water. The pessimistic Buddhists saw the glass as half empty (the void/shunyata, the absence of any phenomenal content) while the Theravadists saw it as the glass half full (Pure Consciousness, the Brahman). This is quite absurd and very frustrating. Sorry for the emotions.
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Tcat64, here's a couple of warnings:
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??? You are pushing a reference (Nakamura) that doesn't meet [WP:RS] (references cannot be authenticated and you want to give me a warning? Tcat64 ( talk)
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. VictoriaGrayson Talk 18:24, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
This is silly. This too. As Montanabw already told you. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 12:25, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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Let's have a cup of tea; see diff and diff. Cheers, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 19:03, 19 March 2015 (UTC) |
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13:32, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
The information in the article is 100% correct. The reference does say the Mandukya Upanishad itself was influenced by Buddhism. There is no confusion with the Karika's, which were also influenced by Buddhism. VictoriaGrayson Talk 19:57, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
This is quite absurd...why is one reference + another flawed one, more credible then the other three mentioned in the Vedanta article, i.e., Deussen, Ranade, and Radhakrishan. I think this is a big mistake, a blunder. Sankhya, Vedanta, and Theravada were well aware of 'turiya' or 'shunyata' around 500 BCE. Thus in Theravada, there is the concept of Shunyata, so that itself predtes the Mahayana--see for example Bikku Bhodih's translations of the earliest Pali Scripts. You are being very authoritarian making changes without first discussing them. Further, if you read the actual upanishad, it uses a different concept than shunyata. It uses the concept of turiya. It is like a half full glass of water. The pessimistic Buddhists saw the glass as half empty (the void/shunyata, the absence of any phenomenal content) while the Theravadists saw it as the glass half full (Pure Consciousness, the Brahman). This is quite absurd and very frustrating. Sorry for the emotions.
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18:46, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Tcat64, here's a couple of warnings:
Take also notice of this generic warning:
The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.
Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.
This message is informational only and does not imply misconduct regarding your contributions to date.Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 15:22, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
??? You are pushing a reference (Nakamura) that doesn't meet [WP:RS] (references cannot be authenticated and you want to give me a warning? Tcat64 ( talk)
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. VictoriaGrayson Talk 18:24, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
This is silly. This too. As Montanabw already told you. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 12:25, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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Let's have a cup of tea; see diff and diff. Cheers, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 19:03, 19 March 2015 (UTC) |