Hello
I am the guy who has been updating the page for " The Great Leap Forward (band)" - rationale being that the information is out of date and / or is missing, as this band has been active since previous article edits.
The article "Great Leap Forward (band)" (which I didn't start) has been up on Wiki since 2008ish, with no problems, queries, or referrals from yourselves. "Great Leap Forward (band)" and "The Great Leap Forward (band)" are one and the same. As part of an information update, and in my ignorance of your procedures, I tried to rectify this original name error by creating a new page and redirecting, which I see that you then kindly did anyway - apologies for any self-caused problems there.
I have since uploaded new information (for both this article and related others), and I appreciate that your criteria kicks in in order to monitor this. However, I am now clearly worried that you are about to delete the article when all I wanted to do was to bring it up to date, and as mentioned above, the article has been in existence since 2008 without being deemed "un-notable", so what is so different now that you are considering deleting it?
And may I humbly point out that if you do delete, then there many many other bands on Wiki who also fall into your "no evidence of notability" category, but still have articles.
Regarding evidence/references: I note Spiderone "couldn't find anything reliable, just the standard junk..". Not really sure what "standard junk" means, and wondering how how much you use that phrase to determine whether a band is notable or not. Also I suppose it depends on your in-depth knowledge of the British independent music scene, mostly in the 1980's I admit, which, going on GhostDestroyer100's age, I can appreciate may not be his priority.
So what I can do is provide you with references from reviews and interviews over time about this band from British and European music media such as NME, Sounds etc., and as this band has a new album out later this year then I expect there to be further references available.
In summary, I only wished to update an article that has been living quite happily on Wiki for over 12 years. If I went about this is in the wrong manner, then I can only apologise. Please advise what steps I need to take to avoid this page being deleted.
Thanks for your consideration
-- TGLForward ( talk) 10:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)TGLForward
Hello, TGLForward, and
welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for
your contributions.
I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was The Great Leap Forward (band), which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.
To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.
One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)
In addition, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for any contribution you make, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation to comply with our terms of use and our policy on paid editing.
Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
- Best practices for editors with close associations
- Plain and simple conflict of interest guide
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- Contributing to Wikipedia
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- Simplified Manual of Style
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Spiderone
22:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, and thank you for
your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give
Great Leap Forward (band) a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into
The Great Leap Forward (band). This is known as a "
cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the
page history, which is
legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.
In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Dl2000 ( talk) 01:50, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Nomination of The Great Leap Forward (band) for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Great Leap Forward (band) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
GhostDestroyer100 ( talk) 09:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello, TGLForward. We
welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things
you have written about in the page
The Great Leap Forward (band), you may have a
conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the
conflict of interest guideline and
FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
- avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
- propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{ request edit}} template);
- disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI);
- avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
- do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Spiderone 11:28, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello
I am the guy who has been updating the page for " The Great Leap Forward (band)" - rationale being that the information is out of date and / or is missing, as this band has been active since previous article edits.
The article "Great Leap Forward (band)" (which I didn't start) has been up on Wiki since 2008ish, with no problems, queries, or referrals from yourselves. "Great Leap Forward (band)" and "The Great Leap Forward (band)" are one and the same. As part of an information update, and in my ignorance of your procedures, I tried to rectify this original name error by creating a new page and redirecting, which I see that you then kindly did anyway - apologies for any self-caused problems there.
I have since uploaded new information (for both this article and related others), and I appreciate that your criteria kicks in in order to monitor this. However, I am now clearly worried that you are about to delete the article when all I wanted to do was to bring it up to date, and as mentioned above, the article has been in existence since 2008 without being deemed "un-notable", so what is so different now that you are considering deleting it?
And may I humbly point out that if you do delete, then there many many other bands on Wiki who also fall into your "no evidence of notability" category, but still have articles.
Regarding evidence/references: I note Spiderone "couldn't find anything reliable, just the standard junk..". Not really sure what "standard junk" means, and wondering how how much you use that phrase to determine whether a band is notable or not. Also I suppose it depends on your in-depth knowledge of the British independent music scene, mostly in the 1980's I admit, which, going on GhostDestroyer100's age, I can appreciate may not be his priority.
So what I can do is provide you with references from reviews and interviews over time about this band from British and European music media such as NME, Sounds etc., and as this band has a new album out later this year then I expect there to be further references available.
In summary, I only wished to update an article that has been living quite happily on Wiki for over 12 years. If I went about this is in the wrong manner, then I can only apologise. Please advise what steps I need to take to avoid this page being deleted.
Thanks for your consideration
-- TGLForward ( talk) 10:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)TGLForward
Hello, TGLForward, and
welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for
your contributions.
I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was The Great Leap Forward (band), which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.
To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.
One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)
In addition, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for any contribution you make, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation to comply with our terms of use and our policy on paid editing.
Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
- Best practices for editors with close associations
- Plain and simple conflict of interest guide
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- Contributing to Wikipedia
- Tutorial
- How to edit a page and How to develop articles
- How to create your first article (using the Article Wizard if you wish)
- Simplified Manual of Style
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a
Wikipedian! Please
sign your messages on
talk pages using four
tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out
Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on
my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome!
Spiderone
22:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, and thank you for
your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give
Great Leap Forward (band) a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into
The Great Leap Forward (band). This is known as a "
cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the
page history, which is
legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.
In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Dl2000 ( talk) 01:50, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Nomination of The Great Leap Forward (band) for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Great Leap Forward (band) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
GhostDestroyer100 ( talk) 09:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello, TGLForward. We
welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things
you have written about in the page
The Great Leap Forward (band), you may have a
conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the
conflict of interest guideline and
FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
- avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
- propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{ request edit}} template);
- disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI);
- avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
- do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Spiderone 11:28, 12 January 2021 (UTC)