Hi Synpath. A bit of background. BIOVIA Draw is the current version of the original ISIS/Draw program which I have been using since the mid 1980s, when it was introduced by MDL. Their .mol format files (for individual molecules) are now open-source and widely used, for example by ChemSpider. However their .skc (sketch) file vector graphic format for complete drawings is still proprietary. In its current incarnation, the program can export several image file formats including .png and .emf (the Microsoft enhanced metafile format) but NOT .svg. Hence, to generate Wikimedia-acceptable .svg I use .emf (which Inkscape can read) and make the conversion to .svg in that program.
MOS:CSDG says we should be using ACS drawing conventions, as you know. These are implemented as a settings option in BIOVIA Draw. Take a look a this .png file in my Google cloud. I can't load this to Wikimedia as it is a screenshot and so copyrighted. If your monitor is set up exactly like mine, the scale bar will be 1 cm on-screen and the drawing (which is part of the thiamine biosynthesis) has exactly the specified ACS settings as shown in the .xml document that the drawing program provides. Note the 10 pt Arial default and the specifications for many other items, not all shown. Now the interesting bit. If I take the corresponding .svg file and include it in a thumbnail, it looks as on the right: however this is not defaulting to 1 cm bond lengths, since the Wikipedia default for thumbnails is 220px total width. To get an image back to the default ACS size of 1 cm bond length on my monitor, I find by trial-and-error that I need to set this particular image to 800px thus:
Since these are the same .svg file, clicking on either will provide a version that is as large as your monitor will allow. I'm going to reset all the drawings in the thiamine article so they appear at the same 1 cm bond length on my monitor, which I hope will satisfy your plea for consistency. Nevertheless, we may get complaints from other readers that the diagrams are too large, depending on individual output devices. Mike Turnbull ( talk) 14:51, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
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Ozzie10aaaa ( talk) 15:32, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Hi Synpath. A bit of background. BIOVIA Draw is the current version of the original ISIS/Draw program which I have been using since the mid 1980s, when it was introduced by MDL. Their .mol format files (for individual molecules) are now open-source and widely used, for example by ChemSpider. However their .skc (sketch) file vector graphic format for complete drawings is still proprietary. In its current incarnation, the program can export several image file formats including .png and .emf (the Microsoft enhanced metafile format) but NOT .svg. Hence, to generate Wikimedia-acceptable .svg I use .emf (which Inkscape can read) and make the conversion to .svg in that program.
MOS:CSDG says we should be using ACS drawing conventions, as you know. These are implemented as a settings option in BIOVIA Draw. Take a look a this .png file in my Google cloud. I can't load this to Wikimedia as it is a screenshot and so copyrighted. If your monitor is set up exactly like mine, the scale bar will be 1 cm on-screen and the drawing (which is part of the thiamine biosynthesis) has exactly the specified ACS settings as shown in the .xml document that the drawing program provides. Note the 10 pt Arial default and the specifications for many other items, not all shown. Now the interesting bit. If I take the corresponding .svg file and include it in a thumbnail, it looks as on the right: however this is not defaulting to 1 cm bond lengths, since the Wikipedia default for thumbnails is 220px total width. To get an image back to the default ACS size of 1 cm bond length on my monitor, I find by trial-and-error that I need to set this particular image to 800px thus:
Since these are the same .svg file, clicking on either will provide a version that is as large as your monitor will allow. I'm going to reset all the drawings in the thiamine article so they appear at the same 1 cm bond length on my monitor, which I hope will satisfy your plea for consistency. Nevertheless, we may get complaints from other readers that the diagrams are too large, depending on individual output devices. Mike Turnbull ( talk) 14:51, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
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Ozzie10aaaa ( talk) 15:32, 28 January 2024 (UTC)