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references or sources.[1][2][3] For your work with mistagged BLPs, thank you! The list is now empty with your help. Gigs ( talk) 05:42, 22 December 2010 (UTC) |
Hello, I considered the sources that you uncovered but am not convinced that he yet meets WP:MUSICBIO. I fully explained my thinking at the AfD. Your effort should be applauded, had I found the MTV stuff before I nominated the article I likely would have added the source and not nominated, but now that the discussion has begun notability must be established before I can endorse keeping. If you want the article userfied with the hope that his career will continue I would be happy to move it to your userspace. I hope you have a very Merry Christmas or whatever other holiday you celebrate. J04n( talk page) 00:42, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello SunCreator! If you are interested, I would be very grateful if you could help to Peer Review Galapagos Tortoise. I have been working on it for a while and would really appreciate your input. Many thanks, Minglex ( talk) 23:10, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
I noticed you offered some comments over at Little tunny, there are actually two articles being worked on by my old crew. The other is Mauritian Tomb Bat: also under a peer review here. If you have time, it needs a solid review (nobody has shown yet save me and the teacher). The first thing I noticed was capatilization in the article title. Thank you regardless of whether or not you can offer insights, :-)-- NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 22:47, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
See where your Creationwiki dalliance led? I found this great pic and added another ref. And was able to tie it into the description pretty tightly to make the words more understandable.
P.s. Two more refs and we hit 150. Every time someone pushes me onto the net I find new stuff. :) TCO ( talk) 00:25, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Your oppose !vote got undented. If you still wish to oppose, please make sure that the first line stars with #, and not :# or #:, as the first will break the numbering and the both will indent the post and make it seem like you withdrew the !vote. If you did wish to withdraw, then yes, intent, but also strike out the vote and, preferably, also leave a comment explicitly stating you withdrew the vote. Just an FYI. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:36, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Just a note; you wrote that "So you are confirming he was at the time a political active Liberal Democrats supporter and so it is POV political bias. Thanks. At least that answers my 'WHY' question and explains his emotional involvement in the situation". If I was paying attention to that AfD due to a "POV political bias", I would have been emotionally involved in trying to have it kept. The seat in question was a marginal one and a high priority for the Liberal Democrats, a party I am no longer a member of; any reduction in the Labour vote or continued advertising of that event would have had the effect of increasing my former organisation's share of the vote. It is thus illogical that I would get involved due to political bias, and when involved, argue for the outcome which was diametrically opposed to those in my apparent bias's interests.
Secondly, you seem to be making the presupposition that because I hold opinions (of any form) in AfDs, I would make a poor administrator, because administrators are meant to be neutral. We all hold opinions and biases, regardless of userrights, and the fact that I have an opinion when commenting an AfD does not mean I am going to utilise that opinion when closing it. I would ask you to assume good faith, and, if you want to see how I'd approach AfD's as an administrator, have a read of Question 12, posed by User:Panyd, in which I'm asked how I would close particular AfDs. If you still wish to oppose after that, that's fine - everyone is welcome to hold an opinion, even when I disagree with the opinion in question. However, it seems unfair to make a decision based entirely on your interpretation of a single AfD — an AfD from April. Kind regards, Ironholds ( talk) 14:51, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for staightening out that reference and circular concern. I woulda been stumped. Grappling with Chihuahua... TCO ( talk) 23:52, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Empire of Brazil is now a Featured Article candidate. Your opinion (either as support or oppose) is welcome. Here is the page: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Empire of Brazil/archive1. Kind regards, -- Lecen ( talk) 18:52, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Article rank (turtles)
Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 02:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I agree on history or the like. You want a reference work (like Britannica) to have some of that stuff that is not topical. Need to have a solid bio on General Grant, not just Brittney Spears. I think for an animal, though, I would weight it higher. There's a reason why people want to know more about alligator than about some Cuba caiman or the like. And a lot of the project rankings are just kinda guesses anyhow. I would go off of pageview and then tweak it when it doesn't feel right. But whatever you want to do is cool. And we got the importance upgraded to high. so 1.0 is old. but no biggie. I know you have to make decisions and go to some source and 1.0 is a good choice. TCO ( talk) 18:52, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
{{
Testudines}}
as a basis at some point. Plenty to do and kinda maxed out on real life at the moment. Regards,
SunCreator (
talk)
17:46, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
{{
Announcements/Community bulletin board}}
."
About this edit, what should one do when the chapter title is in all caps? Is it still Chrysemys picta?-- NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 02:18, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
genus, species and subspecies all get itlaicised. Home sapiens sapiens. Anything higher (family, subfamily) does not. Genus and above are caps. Species and below are lc. However, I would still capitalize a species or subspecies if it is at the beginning of a sentence or in a book title or the like (treat like a normal lc word, then). [If you look at some sources they will say "never" capitalize species or subspecies, but what they mean is don't capitalize it if it comes from someone's name: "bellii", not "Bellii". (And some very old sources will capitalize Bellii, but we are talking really old shiznet.]
Most journals that I know DO capitalize article titles (a few do not). Not sure where Mississippi-linker is coming from. Seriously, go check some. That said, it does vary. And I have no statistics. Newspapers and wiki articles in general don't. Books always do. Of course even if you follow journal pattern, sometimes they have the entire WORDS in caps, which we don't want to copy, so need to make a call. Sometimes checking table of contents (SunnyC's trick) can help. TCO ( talk) 03:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
In case you missed my post after your thanks....it appeared on the Portals DYK, not the main page DYK. Portal:Amphibians and Reptiles CTJF83 chat 02:35, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes, this part:
"If there is a choice of scientific names, generally use the lowest-ranked taxon which the article covers, but for monotypic genera (i.e., where the genus has only one known species), use the genus name for the article title.
I've moved Irwin's Turtle (capital T) to Irwin's turtle (lowercase t) per your request and WP:CAPS. I've left a redirect in place at Irwin's Turtle - possibly a good idea in case anyone has that bookmarked. If you want the redirect (Turtle with a capital T) deleted, please let me know, but remember, "redirects are cheap"! Cheers, Tonywalton Talk 17:54, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
The Invisible Barnstar | ||
When I saw "Awarded to users who make significant and helpful contributions [...] without seeking recognition or reward for their work," I thought of you. Truly phenomenal and tireless work over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Turtles, which would be nowhere without you SunCreator. NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 00:59, 15 January 2011 (UTC) |
Confusingly, Chelonia is also the name of a higher taxon, often used as a more inclusive group for Testudines and extinct turtle groups, or instead of Testudines. [1] MMartyniuk ( talk) 04:35, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Would you mind doing me a favor and flipping this public domain image? Or, if ya don't want to, can you tell me how you do it?-- NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 05:42, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Save it to your computer, open with MS Paint (can rightclick and that choice comes up), then there is a menu choice for flip (for me, it is under "rotate"). flip it. Save as (rename to mirror image) and upload. TCO ( talk) 17:03, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh...and look at how Suncreator did one of the picta flips. (look at his version in the file image page.) There is a program he uses. It won't do the flip for you, but it will take care of updating the file image page (sort of like a Magus ref tool). I used it when I flipped the basker (can look at that also) TCO ( talk) 20:52, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
"derivativeFX" See here: [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO ( talk • contribs) 00:44, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't the project talk page have our banner?-- NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 02:32, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
TCO ( talk) 02:41, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
I think we can let this be strictly AAR, no?-- NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 03:23, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
In case you have stopped following your thread WP:Help desk#Ambigous page, I posted another reply there. — teb728 t c 23:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
(Moved from Portal talk:Turtles)
I asked him to take a look at the article. I think he stuck that note in before reading the whole thing. If we really did oversell the "BC aspect" than maybe he gives us valuable expertise. And we just cut it. Anyhow, hoping we can work through all of it. TCO ( talk) 03:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
I support the changes. (That was a reach.) :-) TCO ( talk) 02:29, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Let me mix in some gansta roll too! You should have seen me when I drank. People got a hoot out of it. (but it was gaming forums and the like, more play allowed.) In my defense, I do make some reaches at times (am always looking for organizing principles, so what's), but at least I'm willing to change. That fella lives up there and I sorta constructed an image in my mind of the liberal Canadian BC hippies loving their poor endangered turtles...but I overinterpreted. ;-) TCO ( talk) 03:39, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 5 | ← | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | → | Archive 15 |
The Mistagged BLP Cleanup Barnstar | |
This
barnstar does not
cite any
references or sources.[1][2][3] For your work with mistagged BLPs, thank you! The list is now empty with your help. Gigs ( talk) 05:42, 22 December 2010 (UTC) |
Hello, I considered the sources that you uncovered but am not convinced that he yet meets WP:MUSICBIO. I fully explained my thinking at the AfD. Your effort should be applauded, had I found the MTV stuff before I nominated the article I likely would have added the source and not nominated, but now that the discussion has begun notability must be established before I can endorse keeping. If you want the article userfied with the hope that his career will continue I would be happy to move it to your userspace. I hope you have a very Merry Christmas or whatever other holiday you celebrate. J04n( talk page) 00:42, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello SunCreator! If you are interested, I would be very grateful if you could help to Peer Review Galapagos Tortoise. I have been working on it for a while and would really appreciate your input. Many thanks, Minglex ( talk) 23:10, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
I noticed you offered some comments over at Little tunny, there are actually two articles being worked on by my old crew. The other is Mauritian Tomb Bat: also under a peer review here. If you have time, it needs a solid review (nobody has shown yet save me and the teacher). The first thing I noticed was capatilization in the article title. Thank you regardless of whether or not you can offer insights, :-)-- NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 22:47, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
See where your Creationwiki dalliance led? I found this great pic and added another ref. And was able to tie it into the description pretty tightly to make the words more understandable.
P.s. Two more refs and we hit 150. Every time someone pushes me onto the net I find new stuff. :) TCO ( talk) 00:25, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Your oppose !vote got undented. If you still wish to oppose, please make sure that the first line stars with #, and not :# or #:, as the first will break the numbering and the both will indent the post and make it seem like you withdrew the !vote. If you did wish to withdraw, then yes, intent, but also strike out the vote and, preferably, also leave a comment explicitly stating you withdrew the vote. Just an FYI. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:36, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Just a note; you wrote that "So you are confirming he was at the time a political active Liberal Democrats supporter and so it is POV political bias. Thanks. At least that answers my 'WHY' question and explains his emotional involvement in the situation". If I was paying attention to that AfD due to a "POV political bias", I would have been emotionally involved in trying to have it kept. The seat in question was a marginal one and a high priority for the Liberal Democrats, a party I am no longer a member of; any reduction in the Labour vote or continued advertising of that event would have had the effect of increasing my former organisation's share of the vote. It is thus illogical that I would get involved due to political bias, and when involved, argue for the outcome which was diametrically opposed to those in my apparent bias's interests.
Secondly, you seem to be making the presupposition that because I hold opinions (of any form) in AfDs, I would make a poor administrator, because administrators are meant to be neutral. We all hold opinions and biases, regardless of userrights, and the fact that I have an opinion when commenting an AfD does not mean I am going to utilise that opinion when closing it. I would ask you to assume good faith, and, if you want to see how I'd approach AfD's as an administrator, have a read of Question 12, posed by User:Panyd, in which I'm asked how I would close particular AfDs. If you still wish to oppose after that, that's fine - everyone is welcome to hold an opinion, even when I disagree with the opinion in question. However, it seems unfair to make a decision based entirely on your interpretation of a single AfD — an AfD from April. Kind regards, Ironholds ( talk) 14:51, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for staightening out that reference and circular concern. I woulda been stumped. Grappling with Chihuahua... TCO ( talk) 23:52, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Empire of Brazil is now a Featured Article candidate. Your opinion (either as support or oppose) is welcome. Here is the page: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Empire of Brazil/archive1. Kind regards, -- Lecen ( talk) 18:52, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Article rank (turtles)
Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 02:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I agree on history or the like. You want a reference work (like Britannica) to have some of that stuff that is not topical. Need to have a solid bio on General Grant, not just Brittney Spears. I think for an animal, though, I would weight it higher. There's a reason why people want to know more about alligator than about some Cuba caiman or the like. And a lot of the project rankings are just kinda guesses anyhow. I would go off of pageview and then tweak it when it doesn't feel right. But whatever you want to do is cool. And we got the importance upgraded to high. so 1.0 is old. but no biggie. I know you have to make decisions and go to some source and 1.0 is a good choice. TCO ( talk) 18:52, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
{{
Testudines}}
as a basis at some point. Plenty to do and kinda maxed out on real life at the moment. Regards,
SunCreator (
talk)
17:46, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
{{
Announcements/Community bulletin board}}
."
About this edit, what should one do when the chapter title is in all caps? Is it still Chrysemys picta?-- NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 02:18, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
genus, species and subspecies all get itlaicised. Home sapiens sapiens. Anything higher (family, subfamily) does not. Genus and above are caps. Species and below are lc. However, I would still capitalize a species or subspecies if it is at the beginning of a sentence or in a book title or the like (treat like a normal lc word, then). [If you look at some sources they will say "never" capitalize species or subspecies, but what they mean is don't capitalize it if it comes from someone's name: "bellii", not "Bellii". (And some very old sources will capitalize Bellii, but we are talking really old shiznet.]
Most journals that I know DO capitalize article titles (a few do not). Not sure where Mississippi-linker is coming from. Seriously, go check some. That said, it does vary. And I have no statistics. Newspapers and wiki articles in general don't. Books always do. Of course even if you follow journal pattern, sometimes they have the entire WORDS in caps, which we don't want to copy, so need to make a call. Sometimes checking table of contents (SunnyC's trick) can help. TCO ( talk) 03:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
In case you missed my post after your thanks....it appeared on the Portals DYK, not the main page DYK. Portal:Amphibians and Reptiles CTJF83 chat 02:35, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes, this part:
"If there is a choice of scientific names, generally use the lowest-ranked taxon which the article covers, but for monotypic genera (i.e., where the genus has only one known species), use the genus name for the article title.
I've moved Irwin's Turtle (capital T) to Irwin's turtle (lowercase t) per your request and WP:CAPS. I've left a redirect in place at Irwin's Turtle - possibly a good idea in case anyone has that bookmarked. If you want the redirect (Turtle with a capital T) deleted, please let me know, but remember, "redirects are cheap"! Cheers, Tonywalton Talk 17:54, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
The Invisible Barnstar | ||
When I saw "Awarded to users who make significant and helpful contributions [...] without seeking recognition or reward for their work," I thought of you. Truly phenomenal and tireless work over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Turtles, which would be nowhere without you SunCreator. NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 00:59, 15 January 2011 (UTC) |
Confusingly, Chelonia is also the name of a higher taxon, often used as a more inclusive group for Testudines and extinct turtle groups, or instead of Testudines. [1] MMartyniuk ( talk) 04:35, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Would you mind doing me a favor and flipping this public domain image? Or, if ya don't want to, can you tell me how you do it?-- NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 05:42, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Save it to your computer, open with MS Paint (can rightclick and that choice comes up), then there is a menu choice for flip (for me, it is under "rotate"). flip it. Save as (rename to mirror image) and upload. TCO ( talk) 17:03, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh...and look at how Suncreator did one of the picta flips. (look at his version in the file image page.) There is a program he uses. It won't do the flip for you, but it will take care of updating the file image page (sort of like a Magus ref tool). I used it when I flipped the basker (can look at that also) TCO ( talk) 20:52, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
"derivativeFX" See here: [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO ( talk • contribs) 00:44, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't the project talk page have our banner?-- NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 02:32, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
TCO ( talk) 02:41, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
I think we can let this be strictly AAR, no?-- NYMFan69-86 ( talk) 03:23, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
In case you have stopped following your thread WP:Help desk#Ambigous page, I posted another reply there. — teb728 t c 23:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
(Moved from Portal talk:Turtles)
I asked him to take a look at the article. I think he stuck that note in before reading the whole thing. If we really did oversell the "BC aspect" than maybe he gives us valuable expertise. And we just cut it. Anyhow, hoping we can work through all of it. TCO ( talk) 03:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
I support the changes. (That was a reach.) :-) TCO ( talk) 02:29, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Let me mix in some gansta roll too! You should have seen me when I drank. People got a hoot out of it. (but it was gaming forums and the like, more play allowed.) In my defense, I do make some reaches at times (am always looking for organizing principles, so what's), but at least I'm willing to change. That fella lives up there and I sorta constructed an image in my mind of the liberal Canadian BC hippies loving their poor endangered turtles...but I overinterpreted. ;-) TCO ( talk) 03:39, 23 January 2011 (UTC)