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Would you mind going and having another look at the edits you removed. It is not my field but your revert was illogical, if the citation is true. - Fr ed 13:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
The marron was split into two distinct species in 2002, when it was realised that some individuals were hairy (Cherax tenuimanus) and others were smooth (now known asthe smooth marron, Cherax cainii). The newly-named hairy marron is endemic to the Margaret River in southwest Western Australia (4).
I've been following this conversation with some interest and may contribute following documents/links:
Lycaon
17:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Shall I leave it to you sort out, or can I have a short while to continue with this? Fr ed 17:53, 4 March 2007 (UTC)It is proposed that all previous type fixations for the names Cherax tenuimanus Smith, 1912 and Cherax cainii Austin in Austin & Ryan, 2002 be set aside and neotypes designated for both species to maintain the accustomed usage of the name Cherax tenuimanus. ICZN - BCN Case 3267
Do you happen to know why they named it " Paradoxides"?-- Mr Fink 16:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Why you delete Angelo Punchinello?! Craxy 02:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I think Max Payne needs a character and gang article too Craxy 20:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, could you please revert your changes to the article Alytidae, per User talk:Eleassar#Discoglossidae et al. Although a very reputable source on this anuran family uses the new name, this is not widely accepted yet. So I think it would be better to retain the old name for some time yet to not give undue weight. Sorry for causing you trouble. -- Eleassar my talk 09:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I got your name from here. {{ WPBiography}} has a Listas parameter that is a a sort key for each of the talk page categories. Is there anyway that you can combine the workings of {{ DEFAULTSORT}} into the Listas parameter in {{ WPBiography}} so that Listas works for the article page categories in addition to the talk page categories? -- Jreferee 18:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I was surprised to see the discussion about this page move suddenly 'sealed off' with a comment that it was archived. Could you clarify for me the grounds for doing this? (perhaps I missed something but I didn't see any a guideline or warning about this on the requested move help page or admin move guidelines page). I'd also appreciate your advice about next steps.
Another editor (see further up the talk page) had previously suggested a move on the basis that "the use of the term "mental illness" here is too broad, confusing and, I think, stigmatising". I'd also made move points and suggestions, which had remained unopposed for several weeks/months. The only reason I didn't just move it was because of the edit history on the target page. Then when I made the "official" move request there was just one response which, while saying that in their personal experience the illness term was used more (not specified what their personal experience is, no verifiable source) was actually a recommendation to look at the evidence. I followed the page title guidelines and set out the usage in the 3 domains. The only response to this was the claim, frmo the same person, that the DSM refers to psychiatric illness in generalities, and mental disorder only in specifics, but as I pointed out this isn't actually the case. Anyway, that isn't an explicit objection to the move (although obviously isn't acting in favour of it). I understand that a page can be moved without a particular size of consensus having been achieved - i.e. no minimal involvement. So how is it right, by Wikipedia guidelines, that two comments from one person, one vague and one simply wrong, can torpedo the whole move, pending for months? In any case, the usage info (including scoring, as per guidelines) hadn't been completed.
If I start a new edit section to address the issue again, or stick a move request in again, are there any guidelines for helpful ways to do this? Will the same thing just happen again? (would you have any view on the strength of the case for the move?). What are the alternatives now? I would be grateful for your time to help with this, given this action. EverSince 20:08, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Oops, sorry about removing the species names in Chionoecetes. I take it we eventually want to have Wikipedia articles on each of the scientific names. Dragomiloff 12:48, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your interest and contribution to the article Moel Tryfan but am not quite sure I can agree with your statement that Tryfan "is also often called 'Moel Tryfan'". I'm a Welsh speaker, live in north-west Wales and am well versed in our history and literature yet I cannot recall coming across 'Moel Tryfan' for Tryfan. Do you have a source/s? I've checked what Sir Ifor Williams, an expert on Welsh place-names, has to say on the subject but find no mention of it (he deals in some length on the etymology of 'Tryfan' in his book Enwau Lleoedd). Also the author Ioan Bowen Rees, an expert on Welsh mountains and mountaineering in Wales, but again no luck. Certainly no Welsh speaker refers to Tryfan as 'Moel Tryfan' today so I think at least your statement should be modified to reflect that. Again, if you have a reference I'd be pleased to hear about it. Please accept this missive as 'constructive criticism' in the best spirit of the wikipedia! Cheers, Enaidmawr 00:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for moving the Grendon pages. Andy Mabbett 23:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Please also move the talk page Talk:F. C. Utrecht. Matthew_hk t c 08:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Just a short note to thank you for your comprehensive and amazingly speedy categorizing of John Stokes from the Cocos Keeling Islands. Amazing! Gillyweed 00:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Do you think the picture should have indicated inside the names of the single mountains on view to be enough informative for wiki? I still think it is notable on its kind because such a view is quite rare and an extremely difficult picture to take, absolutely unusual for the alps. Certainly it is a curiosity for this article being the collàge of 185 pictures taken the same day from the same point of view at 250-300 Km of distance, perfectly right for a full title as "Alps". So I still think it is pertinent. But maybe under a different header. Do you have a suggestion? thnxx -- Florenus 11:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
>The picture is grainy, and only a few dozen pixels high in most places.
The correctly visualized complete picture is 24545 x 679 pixels, not "a few dozen pixels high" and it's grainy because it's processed at maximum contrast with 400 ASA due to the telescope. With such large long distance panoramas you have this problem also when using analogic films. What about leaving only the link to its bigger version, under a chapter "Curiosities"? Anyway your suggestion to have it under an article about the Appennini is right and I think you can start it. Thank you, -- Florenus 22:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
PS: No it is not Marmolada (close to the church on the right), but Cima Dodici. From here we can see the Dolomites with Marmolada right after the church in between the 2 hills, but due to some clouds forming and the gone sun that day it was impossible to picture them. On the very left the Sondrio mountains are visble, and in the center quite clear is the Adamello peak and the Monte Baldo (just before the Garda Lake). I have a complete list of the visible peaks if you are interested. Some are even 300 Km. distant from our location. And I have also a higher resolution pic source (about 60 MB psd).
Hi Stem - that was the quickest update to a new article I've seen! Regards ( Sarah777 14:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC))
gertano —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.202.240.117 ( talk • contribs) on 2007-03-20 at 18:11 UTC
I'm happy for Iokanaan to redirect to Salomé, but I was hoping the article would get expanded to include discussion of why the name was used. It's less likely to happen in the general article on the play. Njál 12:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
You blocked this IP for 24 hrs for vandalism. A few minutes after the block expired, the IP made a single edit to Thomas Edison, changing his place of birth. diff Just thought you might like to know. -- Butseriouslyfolks 21:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for putting the correct stub on Social Pathology...I hadn't seen that stub group. Anyways, thank you. Have a good day. Saber girl08 14:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
You recently made a change to Cordillera Penebtica. In the process of checking out what you had done (which was fine, by the way), I noticed, on your contributions page, that you manage to make tens of edits, to different articles, all a minute or two apart. My question is: How do you do it? As for myself, I know that I can't read/think/type that fast ... by a factor of ten or more. PeterHuntington 18:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Not sure who you are, or why you removed edits I made to his page.
I scattered his ashes in the Sierra Nevada. Leave the reference as it was. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Los cuervos ( talk • contribs) 22:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC).
I located the stub template in IntelliType above the keyboard types' list on purpose. Everything else in that page isn't stubbed, just the list. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lwc4life ( talk • contribs) 18:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC).
I just noticed that you had renamed Ford Freestar to Ford Freestar/Mercury Monterey. Why?
FWIW, WP:CARS has never come to a decision on whether or not that is a good idea. -- Sable232 20:12, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I thank you for improving my stub. I just put stub, but you put it by category. I am still new as an editor, but I will check for categories in the future! Toyalla 18:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the infobox on Botley Hill. -- Spagus 19:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Stemonitis, thanks for helping but I'm surprised you have decided to rename this page while the debate is still on-going and the consensus hasn't been reached. The Latin name vs common name is a heated and old controversy on wikipedia, so we have to be particularly careful about it. Would you mind undoing the move until we reach a consensus? -- Melanochromis 13:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Stemonitis,
I noticed that the polltop template wasn't filled out all the way—it should have used a result= parameter to indicate that the eventual move was different from the proposed move. As it stands it seems like it says the move was to a different location than it ended up being to. — pfahlstrom 22:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
DO NOT EDIT OR POST REPLIES TO THIS PAGE. THIS PAGE IS AN ARCHIVE.
This archive page covers approximately the dates between March 4 2007 and March 26 2007.
Post replies to the main talk page, copying or summarising the section you are replying to if necessary.
Would you mind going and having another look at the edits you removed. It is not my field but your revert was illogical, if the citation is true. - Fr ed 13:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
The marron was split into two distinct species in 2002, when it was realised that some individuals were hairy (Cherax tenuimanus) and others were smooth (now known asthe smooth marron, Cherax cainii). The newly-named hairy marron is endemic to the Margaret River in southwest Western Australia (4).
I've been following this conversation with some interest and may contribute following documents/links:
Lycaon
17:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Shall I leave it to you sort out, or can I have a short while to continue with this? Fr ed 17:53, 4 March 2007 (UTC)It is proposed that all previous type fixations for the names Cherax tenuimanus Smith, 1912 and Cherax cainii Austin in Austin & Ryan, 2002 be set aside and neotypes designated for both species to maintain the accustomed usage of the name Cherax tenuimanus. ICZN - BCN Case 3267
Do you happen to know why they named it " Paradoxides"?-- Mr Fink 16:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Why you delete Angelo Punchinello?! Craxy 02:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I think Max Payne needs a character and gang article too Craxy 20:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, could you please revert your changes to the article Alytidae, per User talk:Eleassar#Discoglossidae et al. Although a very reputable source on this anuran family uses the new name, this is not widely accepted yet. So I think it would be better to retain the old name for some time yet to not give undue weight. Sorry for causing you trouble. -- Eleassar my talk 09:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I got your name from here. {{ WPBiography}} has a Listas parameter that is a a sort key for each of the talk page categories. Is there anyway that you can combine the workings of {{ DEFAULTSORT}} into the Listas parameter in {{ WPBiography}} so that Listas works for the article page categories in addition to the talk page categories? -- Jreferee 18:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I was surprised to see the discussion about this page move suddenly 'sealed off' with a comment that it was archived. Could you clarify for me the grounds for doing this? (perhaps I missed something but I didn't see any a guideline or warning about this on the requested move help page or admin move guidelines page). I'd also appreciate your advice about next steps.
Another editor (see further up the talk page) had previously suggested a move on the basis that "the use of the term "mental illness" here is too broad, confusing and, I think, stigmatising". I'd also made move points and suggestions, which had remained unopposed for several weeks/months. The only reason I didn't just move it was because of the edit history on the target page. Then when I made the "official" move request there was just one response which, while saying that in their personal experience the illness term was used more (not specified what their personal experience is, no verifiable source) was actually a recommendation to look at the evidence. I followed the page title guidelines and set out the usage in the 3 domains. The only response to this was the claim, frmo the same person, that the DSM refers to psychiatric illness in generalities, and mental disorder only in specifics, but as I pointed out this isn't actually the case. Anyway, that isn't an explicit objection to the move (although obviously isn't acting in favour of it). I understand that a page can be moved without a particular size of consensus having been achieved - i.e. no minimal involvement. So how is it right, by Wikipedia guidelines, that two comments from one person, one vague and one simply wrong, can torpedo the whole move, pending for months? In any case, the usage info (including scoring, as per guidelines) hadn't been completed.
If I start a new edit section to address the issue again, or stick a move request in again, are there any guidelines for helpful ways to do this? Will the same thing just happen again? (would you have any view on the strength of the case for the move?). What are the alternatives now? I would be grateful for your time to help with this, given this action. EverSince 20:08, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Oops, sorry about removing the species names in Chionoecetes. I take it we eventually want to have Wikipedia articles on each of the scientific names. Dragomiloff 12:48, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your interest and contribution to the article Moel Tryfan but am not quite sure I can agree with your statement that Tryfan "is also often called 'Moel Tryfan'". I'm a Welsh speaker, live in north-west Wales and am well versed in our history and literature yet I cannot recall coming across 'Moel Tryfan' for Tryfan. Do you have a source/s? I've checked what Sir Ifor Williams, an expert on Welsh place-names, has to say on the subject but find no mention of it (he deals in some length on the etymology of 'Tryfan' in his book Enwau Lleoedd). Also the author Ioan Bowen Rees, an expert on Welsh mountains and mountaineering in Wales, but again no luck. Certainly no Welsh speaker refers to Tryfan as 'Moel Tryfan' today so I think at least your statement should be modified to reflect that. Again, if you have a reference I'd be pleased to hear about it. Please accept this missive as 'constructive criticism' in the best spirit of the wikipedia! Cheers, Enaidmawr 00:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for moving the Grendon pages. Andy Mabbett 23:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Please also move the talk page Talk:F. C. Utrecht. Matthew_hk t c 08:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Just a short note to thank you for your comprehensive and amazingly speedy categorizing of John Stokes from the Cocos Keeling Islands. Amazing! Gillyweed 00:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Do you think the picture should have indicated inside the names of the single mountains on view to be enough informative for wiki? I still think it is notable on its kind because such a view is quite rare and an extremely difficult picture to take, absolutely unusual for the alps. Certainly it is a curiosity for this article being the collàge of 185 pictures taken the same day from the same point of view at 250-300 Km of distance, perfectly right for a full title as "Alps". So I still think it is pertinent. But maybe under a different header. Do you have a suggestion? thnxx -- Florenus 11:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
>The picture is grainy, and only a few dozen pixels high in most places.
The correctly visualized complete picture is 24545 x 679 pixels, not "a few dozen pixels high" and it's grainy because it's processed at maximum contrast with 400 ASA due to the telescope. With such large long distance panoramas you have this problem also when using analogic films. What about leaving only the link to its bigger version, under a chapter "Curiosities"? Anyway your suggestion to have it under an article about the Appennini is right and I think you can start it. Thank you, -- Florenus 22:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
PS: No it is not Marmolada (close to the church on the right), but Cima Dodici. From here we can see the Dolomites with Marmolada right after the church in between the 2 hills, but due to some clouds forming and the gone sun that day it was impossible to picture them. On the very left the Sondrio mountains are visble, and in the center quite clear is the Adamello peak and the Monte Baldo (just before the Garda Lake). I have a complete list of the visible peaks if you are interested. Some are even 300 Km. distant from our location. And I have also a higher resolution pic source (about 60 MB psd).
Hi Stem - that was the quickest update to a new article I've seen! Regards ( Sarah777 14:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC))
gertano —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.202.240.117 ( talk • contribs) on 2007-03-20 at 18:11 UTC
I'm happy for Iokanaan to redirect to Salomé, but I was hoping the article would get expanded to include discussion of why the name was used. It's less likely to happen in the general article on the play. Njál 12:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
You blocked this IP for 24 hrs for vandalism. A few minutes after the block expired, the IP made a single edit to Thomas Edison, changing his place of birth. diff Just thought you might like to know. -- Butseriouslyfolks 21:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for putting the correct stub on Social Pathology...I hadn't seen that stub group. Anyways, thank you. Have a good day. Saber girl08 14:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
You recently made a change to Cordillera Penebtica. In the process of checking out what you had done (which was fine, by the way), I noticed, on your contributions page, that you manage to make tens of edits, to different articles, all a minute or two apart. My question is: How do you do it? As for myself, I know that I can't read/think/type that fast ... by a factor of ten or more. PeterHuntington 18:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Not sure who you are, or why you removed edits I made to his page.
I scattered his ashes in the Sierra Nevada. Leave the reference as it was. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Los cuervos ( talk • contribs) 22:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC).
I located the stub template in IntelliType above the keyboard types' list on purpose. Everything else in that page isn't stubbed, just the list. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lwc4life ( talk • contribs) 18:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC).
I just noticed that you had renamed Ford Freestar to Ford Freestar/Mercury Monterey. Why?
FWIW, WP:CARS has never come to a decision on whether or not that is a good idea. -- Sable232 20:12, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I thank you for improving my stub. I just put stub, but you put it by category. I am still new as an editor, but I will check for categories in the future! Toyalla 18:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the infobox on Botley Hill. -- Spagus 19:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Stemonitis, thanks for helping but I'm surprised you have decided to rename this page while the debate is still on-going and the consensus hasn't been reached. The Latin name vs common name is a heated and old controversy on wikipedia, so we have to be particularly careful about it. Would you mind undoing the move until we reach a consensus? -- Melanochromis 13:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Stemonitis,
I noticed that the polltop template wasn't filled out all the way—it should have used a result= parameter to indicate that the eventual move was different from the proposed move. As it stands it seems like it says the move was to a different location than it ended up being to. — pfahlstrom 22:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)