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I'm finding it increasingly difficult to ignore your borderline personal attacks on Talk:Bernard Madoff. Would you be please be kind enough to restrict your comments to the content, and leave out your perception of the motives, intelligence, and abilities of contributors? If you wish more details of what I am referring to, just search for your use of the terms "facile", "gratuitous", "desperate claim", and "no longer a fair discussion" on this version of the page (permalinked for future reference). Thanks! Frank | talk 20:46, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
OK, I take notice of your remarks on my page, and I am trying to conscientize myself about my shortcomings of style and improve it. On the other hand I hope you also acknowledge that it is natural to feel it as a personal attack to ignore my arguments and policy-references by not referring to them in your answers. It may also be interpreted as disrespectful as a personal attack. If you are in the position of administrator or regular editor with certain discretionary power then it goes along with a responsibility for extra consideration and courtesy, inconsistent with e.g. just ondoing edits prior to one-way discussion. I am also thinking of the less known dynamics of social relationships as found in Hannah Arendt's book "On violence". The analog of violence on the written arena is a certain awakened emotionality which you label as borderline personal attacks or personal jibes which you only can meet with a masterful "this habit has to stop". And, finally, I think about Wikipedia:Newbie:
On occasion you may wish to tell me whether you have learnt from the incident, or whether you found something of value in the experience. Thank you. Stefanson ( talk) 16:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your responses. I will ponder on them as related to the points I was trying to make in my entries. One important thing for me is that I now feel that all what could be said has been said. Whatever misunderstandings remain are to be considered as unavoidable and I can only hope that in the lon run all of us will learn something from the discussions. Stefanson ( talk) 18:08, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but because of other urgent commitments i may not be able to respond to inserts on this page until further notice. Stefanson ( talk) 11:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I apologize for the tone of my comments that were directed toward you. I'll edit them accordingly. — Malik Shabazz Talk/ Stalk 03:11, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
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23:05, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm finding it increasingly difficult to ignore your borderline personal attacks on Talk:Bernard Madoff. Would you be please be kind enough to restrict your comments to the content, and leave out your perception of the motives, intelligence, and abilities of contributors? If you wish more details of what I am referring to, just search for your use of the terms "facile", "gratuitous", "desperate claim", and "no longer a fair discussion" on this version of the page (permalinked for future reference). Thanks! Frank | talk 20:46, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
OK, I take notice of your remarks on my page, and I am trying to conscientize myself about my shortcomings of style and improve it. On the other hand I hope you also acknowledge that it is natural to feel it as a personal attack to ignore my arguments and policy-references by not referring to them in your answers. It may also be interpreted as disrespectful as a personal attack. If you are in the position of administrator or regular editor with certain discretionary power then it goes along with a responsibility for extra consideration and courtesy, inconsistent with e.g. just ondoing edits prior to one-way discussion. I am also thinking of the less known dynamics of social relationships as found in Hannah Arendt's book "On violence". The analog of violence on the written arena is a certain awakened emotionality which you label as borderline personal attacks or personal jibes which you only can meet with a masterful "this habit has to stop". And, finally, I think about Wikipedia:Newbie:
On occasion you may wish to tell me whether you have learnt from the incident, or whether you found something of value in the experience. Thank you. Stefanson ( talk) 16:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your responses. I will ponder on them as related to the points I was trying to make in my entries. One important thing for me is that I now feel that all what could be said has been said. Whatever misunderstandings remain are to be considered as unavoidable and I can only hope that in the lon run all of us will learn something from the discussions. Stefanson ( talk) 18:08, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but because of other urgent commitments i may not be able to respond to inserts on this page until further notice. Stefanson ( talk) 11:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I apologize for the tone of my comments that were directed toward you. I'll edit them accordingly. — Malik Shabazz Talk/ Stalk 03:11, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
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