Go check this out. I don't even know what to make of it. Apparently someone else wrote "Angie." Stan weller ( talk) 21:49, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I have addressed your comment on the possessive form of proper names ending with a sibilant here. The issue came up at Johannes Brahms and there is some discussion of it there as well. Regards, -- Ravpapa ( talk) 06:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I've started a request at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Date delinking which you may wish to comment on. — Locke Cole • t • c 06:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello Sssoul, I hope that I did the right thing. I created an account and it looks like I'm now communicating with you. I understand what you meant with "personal quotes", etc.
I will mention the details of Karnbach's book, that includes the Mick Avory/Tony Chapman issue (drummer with the Rolling Stones on July 12, 1962): The book is titled: It's Only Rock 'n' Roll, The Ultimate Guide to the Rolling Stones; authors: James Karnbach & Carol Benson. Publisher: Facts On File, Inc. New York, NY, 1997; the information is on pages 57 and 58. ISBN 0816030359 - ISBN 0816035474. I had met with Karnbach and by coincidence I met Mick Avory not much after that, so I could also ask him in person. And he confirmed what's written in Karnbach's book.
The other book you asked about with the title "Stu" is a special case, I think. Being very expensive, and with only 950 "de Luxe" copies (probably sold out), I was lucky to be able to borrow it and get the information I wanted. I think it's the most reliable book on Ian Stewart with extensive contributions of all members and former members (exc. Brian Jones) of the Rolling Stones, managers, studio musicians, relatives, etc.
I agree with you, that the info on Charlie Watts may cause confusion, however, Dick Taylor's quote has to be taken serious to start with, because he played the bass on July 12, 1962. I hope all the above this gets to you in good order Sjoerd. Juilliard2005 ( talk) 23:37, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your response! As you suggested, I have added information to the Mick Avory page. They indeed were completely wrong (even mentioning Charlie Watts too early). The Rolling Stones page has the correct information. Not surprising, because I as well as others had mentioned the July 12, 1962 issue several times in the past (as a non-subscriber still :-)). I could not find the Jagger quote in th book "Stu", but it sounded familiar to me so I'll continue searching. Juilliard2005 ( talk) 15:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Nice one. I was just about to cut that, when you got there first! SilkTork * YES! 10:06, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
You nailed it. I clearly remember him saying that too. There is a huge problem that one never knows if clerks are acting in their personal or official capacity. Please see the motions I proposed in workshop. BTW, is there any reason why don't you have email enabled? Ohconfucius ( talk) 07:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey sorry it took me so long to respond. Been busy with school and stuff. But yes i do agree that some consensus is called for with regard to the edits of the trivia sections. I think I was upset at how out of control they had become. I'll take care with any further edits. Stan weller ( talk) 08:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
How about I change the hierarchy of the sections to make the distinctions more obvious? Just trying to avoid e.c.s with you. I won't do it until you're done. Tony (talk) 07:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, Sssoul! Thanks for your support. Just to let you know I have created some userboxes which you might like to add to your userspace to indicate your position. You will find the boxes here. Ohconfucius ( talk) 06:42, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Per credits on Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out Ian Stewart plays piano on fall 1969 US tour. Regards Vytal Vytal ( talk) 01:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
On this issue. Hopefully you can make a "silk purse" out of whatever "sows ear" text appears in the KR piece. The Real Libs- speak politely 17:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Creep... hmmm... what a fitting wor... oh... nevermind. The Real Libs- speak politely 00:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for correcting my typo on the /Date delinking/Workshop page. You mustn't apologise, it was my fault for editing when I was going bleary-eyed. Please feel free to barge in anytime on my edits when I foul-up! Cheers -- RexxS ( talk) 23:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
In case you weren't keeping an eye on this ...just wanted to say thanks! - SoSaysChappy ( talk) 20:54, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Well said. There are too many casualties, and this one is totally innocent. Ohconfucius ( talk) 04:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul—I see that Army has argued that words such as "custard" should be linked. He has suddenly removed the rule against the linking of common words in WP:LINKING. Extraordinary to do this without prior discussion at the talk page. If I were allowed to revert, I'd do so immediately. Wikipedia_talk:Linking#.22plain_English_words.22 Tony (talk) 09:01, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul, I'm uncomfortable about the wholesale changes to WP:LINK, as I think you are. However, I'm off until the weekend after next, with possible intermittent net access, or none. I do hope things can be held stable at that page in the meantime. Thanks for your good work. Tony (talk) 23:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Someone else got to it before I got into work/Wiki today. I will watch it. The band has played music that could be thought of as hard rock. But I believe all previous discussions on this ended up with... they haven't played enough of it... so thats how it should stay. The Real Libs- speak politely 12:17, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Keep a look out for IP 74.73.110.46 who also edits under the username CosmicLegg (who you caught crufting the Pete Townshend page). The user is a starry eyed fanboy who wants to elevate The Who into the outer realms of the all-powerful... not that they can't be because they are an incredible band... but this user has a bad habit of taking vague citations and reqarding text to match his own fanboy pov. The Real Libs- speak politely 13:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Your turn The Real Libs- speak politely 17:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Tag teaming on The Rolling Stones to avoid 3RR, eh? Yeah, I saw the Your turn subject that Wiki libs added to this talk page and that you responded to and deleted. I doubt tag teaming to avoid 3RR is in keeping with Wikipedia policy. Seems like bad form to me. What say you? 74.73.110.46 ( talk) 19:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
... if The Source of Wiki Power and another editor are the same person. Or at least know one another. Like I say, I wonder. Seduisant ( talk) 14:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
You sent me a message about edit-warring and its consequences but you have not sent anything to "Fairdeal" on the Robert Johnson Page and the Little Richard page. Two Pages. This user is becoming obsessed with reverting everything I do. Its in a sense harassment. If you send me something, send something to the other person who was involved also. The Source of Wiki Power ( talk) 00:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Just a doffing of my cap in admiration for this edit. I've read that paragraph dozens of times, and never noticed it. I've also heard it said he was born at an early age, but can't find a cite to confirm. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:35, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul...I've added several singles titles and promo titles to your Jagger/Richards listing, all of course can be found in The Rolling Stones discography. Now this list really looks complete. Nice work you've done on this yourself! Best, -- 76.198.234.254 ( talk) 00:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
OK , all fxed up, thanks for the note. That is the "biggest" template, probably 500 new instances a day, so it's good to get it right. Rich Farmbrough 11:52 4 July 2009 (UTC).
Hi. I did do the research, and spotted a couple of errors in the text and also tried to provide a slight expansion of the article, which I think will give it some of the things it needs without opening up the danger of it becoming a list of popular music artist. I'd really appreciate it if you could have a look at it on my sandbox at: User:Sabrebd/Sandbox and let me know what you think when you can find the time.-- Sabrebd ( talk) 12:33, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I see your point, this is what happens when you try to compact too much into a few sentences. The only way I can see of clarifying the section is to expand it - perhaps something like:
This is rough and I haven't had chance to footnote it properly. I am away for a couple of days if you can get the chance to look it over. Not sure if I have diluted the pop music as genre idea.-- Sabrebd ( talk) 07:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) thank you very much indeed for your great work on this poor beleaguered article - i'd say it was a pleasure working with you, but you did all the work! so: it was a pleasure interacting with you. swing on! Sssoul ( talk) 16:49, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Sssoul, I am unrestricted on talk pages and elsewhere. At the moment, I just can't edit the actual style guide pages. Tony (talk) 12:56, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Sssoul. we're encouraged by your positive answer on Wikipedia survey in Help-desk. We're considering of cooperating with Wikimedia foundation. The exposure of survey website to Wikipedians matters. In the case of Korean-language, we contacted admins here and they proposed to provide the link to survey website in the front page of Koeran wikipedia. As our research compares two version fo Korean and English, we wonder same method is also possible in English version. What do you think?
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I award you this Barnstar for your recent work in keeping the Little Richard page from deteriorating into a fansite. Said work displays a degree of patience and persistence we could all learn from. Seduisant ( talk) 12:09, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
Yes, of course I'll help. I've hated this section from the beginning, and resent the tone of its author, especially the implication that somehow, by trying to Wikify unreadable content, other editors are conspiring to minimize LR's influence. In particular, I find the assertion that "you DON'T know the significance of this information!" personally offensive - even though the "you" isn't me. And I despise the use of MySpace pages as encyclopedic sources.
I'll stop by the page in the next 24 hours and post a reasoned commentary. Among the many things I'll mention is the questionable addition of Bowie and the members of AC/DC as LR heirs - nothing against these gents, you understand, it's just....AC/DC? Really? Seduisant ( talk) 00:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
I replied to your messages at WT:LINK. I'm not sure if I answered all of your concerns; in particular, I'm not sure what other archived suggestions you are referring to. What do you mean by "the current structure was imposed prematurely"? Do you mean my edits, or do you refer to an earlier restructuring? I'm asking because I didn't really start out with the intention to impose a structure, but it may have turned out that way. Please don't be afraid to criticize me; I know what I can do alone is far from perfect - that's why we're working in a team! — Sebastian 16:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey, just wanted to let you know I replied to your comment on my talk page. Sorry for the delay. 2help ( message me) 03:38, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul. Noetica is being a cranky old man. You can safely ignore his grumpiness, which is less than skin-deep, I think. I've started a new section where people can try to sort out the text amicably. Can we try to harmonise/compromise/whatever on this matter? It's here. Tony (talk) 14:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
On the good read topic... one interview I've been looking to re-read is an interview with Alan Rogan from Guitar Player Mag... somewhere in the early 80s. It's a great interview where Rogan talks about the gear used by Woody and Keef on the NA/Europe tours from the previous year(s). He talks about the acquisition of Bill Wyman's short scale Travis Bean too. I can't find that mag in my archives. If you know a link... or a link to a scan of that interview I would mucho-appreciate it. Thanks! The Real Libs- speak politely 12:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
I accidentally reverted you at The Rolling Stones, and didn't realize it (it can happen with the iPhone interface). Sorry about that; someone else already reverted me, but I wanted to let you know it was an accident and I didn't intend to revert you. Mike Christie (talk) 12:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
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This may interest you. The Real Libs- speak politely 14:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Dear Sssoul, I have tried to improve the blues article along the lines you suggested. I would be glad if you could comment. Thanks. Vb ( talk) 14:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello, an RfC is now open for your comments on this issue at Wikipedia:Mosnum/proposal_on_YYYY-MM-DD_numerical_dates. -- Alarics ( talk) 09:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I wanted to thank you for the copyediting you did on my quick dash writing on the Mick Taylor article. You are good. I can be, in that respect, but just saw words in some place like "supposedly" (which is really a weasel word) abd so forth, but I shouldn't have been in there editing without having gained a more intimate feel for what had been written all the way through, on the basis of what reliable references existed. Do you use Wikimedia Commons? I know a photographer who has allowed us a couple of her vintage Rolling Stones photos: the new Keith Richards one in black and white, and also the one of Mick Taylor from the same period. (She knows lots of musicians through many positions in the music industry, so really she isn't just a photographer. Here's my problem right now. I had been uploading photos to Commons using the "Bryan" Flickr-upload. When that broke down, I did it manually. Though I've asked for help for over a year, nobody seems to be able to explain to me what a TUSC account is, or does, and the same for ORTIS. As a surprise, my friend sent me via email a photo of a recent Mick Taylor photo that surely belongs in the infobox, with her blessings. The permission is on the email. But she didn't put it in Flickr, and I don't know how to upload it to Commons myself because I've only dealt with Flickr uploads. Can you do it? If I forwarded the photo to you, could you upload it? It's really bothering me that I can't do it. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 20:29, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey Sssoul. I was going to rv the latest slew of IP sock edits to the little richard page but thought I would wait for you to review and ponder. If Sssoul says no then libs pop it back. The Real Libs- speak politely 08:04, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Sssoul, today I just had it with all the rules that change with the wind in Commons. I freaked out, and you were th unfortunate person in the path of my rage. I'm just so tired of having to adapt every which way there when I've never had any course in using computers and unlike here, few people will try to break it down in layman's terms, and those who do still assume I know far more than I do. So I really am sorry you were there at the time. If you check my user page you'll see I've uploaded so many images, but since I used (a broken) Flickr upload bot, no tally anywhere will actually reflect that. I hope you forgive the outburst. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 02:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh one other thing, I keep adding pics. Feel free to move them. When possible, until an article is being considered for GA status, if I put a photographer's name in the caption, please leave it there till the last minute as a favor, OK? Some of the photographers (these are mostly pros), are worried about theft of their art. I am coming to Flickr and literally asking them to give up their copyright to us! The best I can offer is to put their name for at least some time under the photo so they get the exposure and maybe new customers. I feel that's fair enough. The Stones photos you've seen, and Led Zeppelin ones and some others from other photographers were slated to be sold to books and I've been able to get them to let us have them. Don't know if you've seen my user page but I began listing uploads- there's only 1/4th there and it's a lot. Can we agree on the caption's attribution till GA time? Thanks. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 00:49, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Ok, sorry for mis-representing your view. Adrian J. Hunter( talk• contribs) 12:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
made me laugh. ;^) ↜ (‘Just M E ’here , now) 02:29, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Journal_of_Popular_Film_%26_Television&diff=322704983&oldid=322694973
The link here isn't a dead link - It is a link for purchasing the full article to read. In citations it is acceptable to link to article purchase pages. WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Appreciate your catch on this. I have reverted all of the links to country/blues spammed over the last 2 days. I didn't add anything further to the user talkpage as I felt you had dealt with the matter as fully as can be done. Keep up the good work.-- SabreBD ( talk) 11:22, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
These comments are preposterous and border on insulting. You are colluding in so-called editorial actions which are unsupportable and inappropriate, and abusing both the principles of common courtesy and the foundation idea of Wikipedia. The unfounded allegation that I am spamming is, frankly, absurd and unwarranted. This dialogue shows me that there in no objectivity and fairness on your part in this process. You are just going to gang up on me and no matter what rebuttal I present and how much I point to factual support of why my posts were legitimate, your are just "supporting each other". You have refused to provide any legitimate basis for your decisions and actions, which are clearly without basis. In my eyes, any intellectual discourse should be based on reason and fairness. You have demonstrated neither. This is nothing short of an abuse of power and a shameful action. You can call your self editors, but I deal with professional editors, with legitimate intellectuals and producers daily, and I know Scheisster pretenders when I see them. Shame on you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matheisf ( talk • contribs) 13:25, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
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08:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the cleanup of all the excessive wikilinks on Robert Cray. The only reason I left off removing them is because I got an extremely unhappy note on my talkpage from User:Derek Bullamore, who I would have thought by now would agree with me that people who read a biography of a musician would surely know what a record was, without wikifying it. (He disagreed vehemently). It's still on my talk page, it was so recent. Sigh. I've had a good working relationship with him for the past couple of years and hate confrontation, but Robert Cray has played with so many other musicians that I end up returning to the page. I swear, the page was nearly all blue with links for the slightest thing! I finally told him I'd back off the articles he worked on if he'd do the favor, figuring someone else would find the page as I did, and help bring it back to standards. It was YOU, and a big thank you for doing so.-- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 23:46, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, thank you for posting on the talk, no i am not taking part in an 'edit war', and i mean that politely,
someone/ people seem to be removing and reverting info that was in there for quite some time and was legit information,
but just want to take it out because its about that guitarist. I think theres a word for that in 'Wiki' talk as they say...
but no i am not 'edit warring' so to speak.... But thank you for showing concern however, and attempting to remedy the situation ,
much appreciated. -- Occultaphenia ( talk) 10:12, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
-I appreciate your attempts at trying to avoid an edit war. the individual in question was a sock with a POV for Jimmy Page, against Pete Townshend, and had made numerous attempts to edit/remove info accordingly, dispute myself being diplomatic bout alot of information. He has now been banned for a bit. -- Occultaphenia ( talk) 02:37, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
I am pleased you made the change as it makes me look less illiterate, but please add to the opinion you have given, as in this type of survey opinions without a reason usually get discounted when assessing whether there is a consensus for or against something. -- PBS ( talk) 14:04, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the help in getting that section up and running. I'm new to Wikipedia, and clearly have a lot of reading to do; I do try to be helpful. I'll have to have a look through my plethora of Stones books for some information on amplifiers - unless, of course, you can cite photographs as legitimate evidence. Is this possible?--Alex MacPherson 16:36, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree; there are definitely some pieces of information that stand to be repeated as we work on this. I think we could probably incorporate "playing style" or something of the sort into the new section: perhaps "musical equipment and playing style" could be the new title. I did a little bit of looking for information on amplifiers, and there really isn't much that's extant. Most of what I know comes from forums of dedicated fans who, despite being absolutely correct in their analysis, aren't considered reputable sources. Any ideas? Is it possible to cite photographs from books, or must everything be text-based?Alex MacPherson 17:02, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough. I found a source for Keith's Fender Twins. As for the signature, I ddidn't think I'd eliminated the link to my talk page. I just checked, and it ought to be there. And yes, I've got to set it up to watch this page. If I can't figure it out for some reason, I'll let you know.Alex MacPherson ( talk) 17:32, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
I've been following the discussion (or lack thereof) on the KR article's discussion page, and concluded that we are the only two people bent on establishing a proper list of his musical equipment. While your comment about the lack of biographical information is certainly viable, I don't necessarily have the energy to commit to that right now. I'm going to do some more digginga and see what else I can come up with. The perennial problem is, of course, that most published works don't focus on gear; it's solely the domain of the rabid Stones fans. There are forums full of accurate information, but finding legitimate sources is going to be tough. I'll keep you posted though...Alex MacPherson ( talk) 04:49, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
The only way to monitor this would be to put both the image and the article Beggars Banquet on your watch-list. One of the reasons that the orphan notification is in place is to catch these instances of removal/vandalism - so keeping those two pages on the watch list would hopefully give you the heads-up that the image was removed. P.s. I've undone the deletion tag on the image page. Skier Dude ( talk) 04:22, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Long time no type. I've finally got some free time from school (and life) and I've been working on some album pages for the Stones. Just wondering if you'd keep an eye on the work and make sure it's in line with regs or even if it reads like a decent piece of writing. You working on anything specific that needs help? I was thinking that the Stones' musical evolution section (which never developed like I had hoped) is a major project that would boost the page's credibility considerably. Thanks and good work on all these pages you work on. Stan weller ( talk) 20:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Do you think that the regular, repeated vandalism might warrant a request to protect the LR article? I really appreciate your watchful eye on the article. You catch the vandals quick - usually beofre I do.-- Smoovedogg ( talk) 07:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul, I noticed someone began an article for The Dirty Mac. I always thought that was just a "one-off" conglomeration of people playing at the Rolling Stones Circus. Anyway, since it's an article, and listed on the page for John Lennon, I added it (reluctantly, really,) to the infobox on the page for Keith Richards. If it belongs there, it probably merits comment in the section about Keith playing bass guitar in his section dedicated to that instrument, too. I'm not really involved in the Stones articles currently as much as I'd like to be, and thought you the best person to mention this stuff to. I did upload another photo of Keith at the mic on his page and another of Ronnie Wood playing with the Stones to his page. Neither is of great quality, but both serve their purpose at the size they are. Lately I've been focusing on the Wikignome stuff I do, and editing Derek Trucks, and Rory Gallagher, (and it looks like I'll have to return to Cat Stevens, as it may easily lose it's GA ranking). Gallagher's article could use help... the best kept secret in Rock and Roll! So could Cat Stevens if you want a change of pace now and then, (hint!). Thanks for your time. If you respond, please do so on my talk page. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 06:12, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your answer. I've found two books, one partly authored by
Jools Holland, The Rolling Stones A Life on the Road, and another, Rolling Stone Interviews by
Jann Wenner (who else?) both of which appear to be good reliable sources for several articles. The first book is mainly photos, but is so huge it has a lot of text as well, and touches on the
Mick Taylor era of the
Rolling Stones, and has a lot of useful quotes and such. The second book has interviews in chapters, one from
Pete Townshend, about
The Who, and another from
Mick Jagger. They were easily found in a teeny little library a 5 minute walk from my house, so I'd assume you might find them anyway. However, being an "article rescue" type, the
Rory Gallagher article is really important to me now. I'm in the States now, and nobody here seems to know who he even was, although his dinky little page continues to get more hits than many other favourites of mine! If you have any guitar articles, or find any good sources about him other than those I put on his talk page, or the books written by him by his bassist,
Gerry McAvoy, or brother, Donal Gallagher, it would really help. I mentioned the Dirty Mac in particular b/c I recall Richards playing bass, and his personal article has a section about him playing bass, and I think a lot of these fans editors ;) would see that, first on
You Tube and go putting it in places where it really doesn't belong!
I knew the Cat Stevens article wasn't up to GA specs some time ago, sorry for asking- I just dread returning back to cover his youth! I wasn't around then! Ah well. Thanks! -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 11:01, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Sssoul, Are you familiar with the (online) radio programme called In the Studio with Redbeard? One day I simply bumped into it as a source, and it is interesting listening, and I wrote him from the website to ask if the interviews (that week, it was a Pete Townshend interview) would remain on the website for a while or be removed. Since I hadn't seen anything about Mick Taylor or some others, I wrote him to ask about it, and here is his response:
If you go online, Sssoul, you will find some interviews which are impeccable with at least the artists I listened to some time ago (maybe 6 months). It really is worth checking out. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 14:16, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Re: Pop music. My mistake. I thought I had seen British English usage elsewhere in the article. I must have been hallucinating. — Aladdin Sane ( talk) 06:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
I saw the discussion, but no one's cited a source. As a general principal, categories should back up cited article text. All Hallow's Wraith ( talk) 16:37, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
You know, I guess I never really thought of it like that before. Sure, the term "live" when concerning "concert" recordings is commonly accepted and understood in the lexicon. but "dead" recordings are... oh, wait! I get it now! "Dead" because they weren't "live" recordings?! Hahaaahaaa!! Hooohoohooo!! Hysterical! (work on your material, kid)... ;> Doc9871 ( talk) 10:12, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul, this clip showed up on You Tube but has some good information. Perhaps by contacting the poster, the source can be found and used in at least one Rolling Stones article. At the least, please check it out, it's quite informative!: "Keith Richards talks about the Blues" great commentary from Bill Wyman and Keith Richards. I love the comment about how Willie Dixon's " Little Red Rooster" was perhaps the only time a blues song made it to #1 on the chart. Mentions of John Lee Hooker, and more. Also, the DJ, "Redbeard"'s global radio interview show (which is also online) In the Studio just interviewed Mick Taylor and Wyman, regarding the anniversary of Let It Bleed. Just go to the link at the bottom of that page, and look it up! (He's also asked me to help clean up his article as he intended to do it himself, which is kind of iffy, so I'll have to ask an Admin about that.. but he knows the rules.. and is good at what he does, even if it's sort of "old school" Casey Kasem sort of approach to his interviews.-- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 17:03, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
I think you deserve this...
The Teamwork Barnstar | ||
I award Sssoul this barnstar for working with others to improve the Pete Townshend article and reach a consensus on its content. Camaron · Christopher · talk 16:26, 18 January 2010 (UTC) |
Camaron · Christopher · talk 16:26, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul, can you tell me anything about these three compilation albums which are red-linked: In Concert (1982), Story of The Stones (1982) and Les Annees Stones 1 (1989)? I found on Discogs that Story of The Stones was released by K-Tel in the UK back in 1982. This contradicts the Decca label shown in the discography. Best, -- Discographer ( talk) 16:32, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
A belated thanks for your previous help (and you will understand why it is belated). I wonder if you could cast your eye over a problem that has arisen with edits from an IP user ( talk), at the above article and may be related in some way to comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dance-pop. There may be some reasonable point being made here, but to be honest I cannot understand it. There is always the chance that it might be a little clearer to you, or that you might be able to suggest useful resolution. Thanks again.-- SabreBD ( talk) 11:29, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Sssoul, thank you for improving my add of Townsend & The Who performance to the SuperBowl! Best, Chuck Stack, aka CStack3 CStack3 ( talk) 15:44, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Sssoul, in the discography for
Mick Taylor, there is a "album" listed, called
let's get Stoned. The fact that the page is so often
vandalized, led me to wonder if this listed album in the discography - doesn't begin with a captiol letter in the title, which I never heard of, is legitimate. Do you know?
Also, can you help find me two or three people good with discographies. I know how to add good information, and cover sleeves to
vinyl album and
7"
45rpm singles. I'm having the hardest time. I want to start album and song pages for musicians who have missing album info, including specifically:
I just want to know, in cases that go back to say, 1980, where to find ratings, and more? I just need someone to teach me just showing how to create one album page, even just to Start-level, and the resulting red marks from discographies all over the place would be losing numerous led marks, as so many other musicians have collaborated on the albums I'd like to tackle! Please, help me find a couple "teachers" so I might continue to improve some of these artists' articles!-- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 00:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Apologies that this is taking me so long, but I am very busy in real life and have managed to get invovled in an editing dispute at Gothic (term) which is absorbing my time. I hope to grab some focused time at the weekend.-- SabreBD ( talk) 16:02, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Ssoul- the listing of the Rolling Stones single, " Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow?" - the B-side of the song is " Who's Driving Your Plane?"-- but no song page has been made for it yet. I had a (rare) image of the B-side single and sleeve and uploaded it, since foolishly, I planned to figure out how to attach the B-side song cover to the bottom side of the infobox of "Have You Seen Your Mother...", (something common on the other song pages, but which I've never tried before) I uploaded it here: [1] I keep hoping someone will teach me to do a decent new song (or new album) page.. but as you can see a bot just gave me a few days to use the uploaded "fair use" single cover, and I accidentally sliced my fingers on my right hand, got stiches -and have a splint on my right index finger, typing is near impossible now, added to my ignorance of song pages. I don't know who else might help with this. I don't know editors here, so since this image is hard to come by, would you please help adding it to " Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow?", or else begin a song page for " Who's Driving Your Plane?"? It's taking me forever now just to type this!
Additionally, if you (or anyone you can find) would just teach me, there is so much I could contribute by means of starting some album pages and song articles. Same goes for discographies. I'm just taught once to properly go about a discography-- (I am especially anxious about Rory Gallagher- the discography portion is a mess- a separate discography page was created for his solo albums released while he was alive, but some of the albums never had article pages created, including - posthumous complations and significantly, a lot of collaborations with artists including Muddy Waters, Jack Bruce, and others, whose own discographies would likewise benefit if I knew where to look to create album articles-- Mick Taylor, Bill Wyman, and Charlie Watts all could likewise benefit. If I could just learn the places to find sources -names of songs with credits and time length, personnel.. I could at least get stubs begun. Please think about that, aside from getting photos, and wikignome things I do actually edit a few musicians' articles, ( Derek Trucks, Cat Stevens, etc.) and am especially anxious about Rory Gallagher.
Last, I uploaded a lot of photos to Wikimedia Commons a couple of days ago, including some early Rolling Stones pics-- my username is the same there as it is here and I now keep a list of over 375 uploaded photos under a tiny gallery of a few favorites on my Wikipedia userpage in case you want to look for any photos there- over 375 pics. Mick Jagger's article has so little text, a couple are on the 1972 tour article, one each: Mick Taylor, Ron Wood, and another on Jagger/Richards (as the two are sharing a microphone and it's such a great shot). There's one last exceptional photo of Taylor and Richards from an entire soundboard photo but would prefer if you email me.. it's outstanding, but I think you should take a look at it before I even consider trying to upload it under "fair use", since it's not your typical find. Would you do that? My email is active. I'll have a look to try to figure out how to add a second image to that song I first mentioned above, but all this typing has been tough! -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 20:46, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Go check this out. I don't even know what to make of it. Apparently someone else wrote "Angie." Stan weller ( talk) 21:49, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I have addressed your comment on the possessive form of proper names ending with a sibilant here. The issue came up at Johannes Brahms and there is some discussion of it there as well. Regards, -- Ravpapa ( talk) 06:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I've started a request at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Date delinking which you may wish to comment on. — Locke Cole • t • c 06:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello Sssoul, I hope that I did the right thing. I created an account and it looks like I'm now communicating with you. I understand what you meant with "personal quotes", etc.
I will mention the details of Karnbach's book, that includes the Mick Avory/Tony Chapman issue (drummer with the Rolling Stones on July 12, 1962): The book is titled: It's Only Rock 'n' Roll, The Ultimate Guide to the Rolling Stones; authors: James Karnbach & Carol Benson. Publisher: Facts On File, Inc. New York, NY, 1997; the information is on pages 57 and 58. ISBN 0816030359 - ISBN 0816035474. I had met with Karnbach and by coincidence I met Mick Avory not much after that, so I could also ask him in person. And he confirmed what's written in Karnbach's book.
The other book you asked about with the title "Stu" is a special case, I think. Being very expensive, and with only 950 "de Luxe" copies (probably sold out), I was lucky to be able to borrow it and get the information I wanted. I think it's the most reliable book on Ian Stewart with extensive contributions of all members and former members (exc. Brian Jones) of the Rolling Stones, managers, studio musicians, relatives, etc.
I agree with you, that the info on Charlie Watts may cause confusion, however, Dick Taylor's quote has to be taken serious to start with, because he played the bass on July 12, 1962. I hope all the above this gets to you in good order Sjoerd. Juilliard2005 ( talk) 23:37, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your response! As you suggested, I have added information to the Mick Avory page. They indeed were completely wrong (even mentioning Charlie Watts too early). The Rolling Stones page has the correct information. Not surprising, because I as well as others had mentioned the July 12, 1962 issue several times in the past (as a non-subscriber still :-)). I could not find the Jagger quote in th book "Stu", but it sounded familiar to me so I'll continue searching. Juilliard2005 ( talk) 15:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Nice one. I was just about to cut that, when you got there first! SilkTork * YES! 10:06, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
You nailed it. I clearly remember him saying that too. There is a huge problem that one never knows if clerks are acting in their personal or official capacity. Please see the motions I proposed in workshop. BTW, is there any reason why don't you have email enabled? Ohconfucius ( talk) 07:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey sorry it took me so long to respond. Been busy with school and stuff. But yes i do agree that some consensus is called for with regard to the edits of the trivia sections. I think I was upset at how out of control they had become. I'll take care with any further edits. Stan weller ( talk) 08:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
How about I change the hierarchy of the sections to make the distinctions more obvious? Just trying to avoid e.c.s with you. I won't do it until you're done. Tony (talk) 07:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, Sssoul! Thanks for your support. Just to let you know I have created some userboxes which you might like to add to your userspace to indicate your position. You will find the boxes here. Ohconfucius ( talk) 06:42, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Per credits on Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out Ian Stewart plays piano on fall 1969 US tour. Regards Vytal Vytal ( talk) 01:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
On this issue. Hopefully you can make a "silk purse" out of whatever "sows ear" text appears in the KR piece. The Real Libs- speak politely 17:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Creep... hmmm... what a fitting wor... oh... nevermind. The Real Libs- speak politely 00:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for correcting my typo on the /Date delinking/Workshop page. You mustn't apologise, it was my fault for editing when I was going bleary-eyed. Please feel free to barge in anytime on my edits when I foul-up! Cheers -- RexxS ( talk) 23:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
In case you weren't keeping an eye on this ...just wanted to say thanks! - SoSaysChappy ( talk) 20:54, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Well said. There are too many casualties, and this one is totally innocent. Ohconfucius ( talk) 04:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul—I see that Army has argued that words such as "custard" should be linked. He has suddenly removed the rule against the linking of common words in WP:LINKING. Extraordinary to do this without prior discussion at the talk page. If I were allowed to revert, I'd do so immediately. Wikipedia_talk:Linking#.22plain_English_words.22 Tony (talk) 09:01, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul, I'm uncomfortable about the wholesale changes to WP:LINK, as I think you are. However, I'm off until the weekend after next, with possible intermittent net access, or none. I do hope things can be held stable at that page in the meantime. Thanks for your good work. Tony (talk) 23:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Someone else got to it before I got into work/Wiki today. I will watch it. The band has played music that could be thought of as hard rock. But I believe all previous discussions on this ended up with... they haven't played enough of it... so thats how it should stay. The Real Libs- speak politely 12:17, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Keep a look out for IP 74.73.110.46 who also edits under the username CosmicLegg (who you caught crufting the Pete Townshend page). The user is a starry eyed fanboy who wants to elevate The Who into the outer realms of the all-powerful... not that they can't be because they are an incredible band... but this user has a bad habit of taking vague citations and reqarding text to match his own fanboy pov. The Real Libs- speak politely 13:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Your turn The Real Libs- speak politely 17:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Tag teaming on The Rolling Stones to avoid 3RR, eh? Yeah, I saw the Your turn subject that Wiki libs added to this talk page and that you responded to and deleted. I doubt tag teaming to avoid 3RR is in keeping with Wikipedia policy. Seems like bad form to me. What say you? 74.73.110.46 ( talk) 19:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
... if The Source of Wiki Power and another editor are the same person. Or at least know one another. Like I say, I wonder. Seduisant ( talk) 14:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
You sent me a message about edit-warring and its consequences but you have not sent anything to "Fairdeal" on the Robert Johnson Page and the Little Richard page. Two Pages. This user is becoming obsessed with reverting everything I do. Its in a sense harassment. If you send me something, send something to the other person who was involved also. The Source of Wiki Power ( talk) 00:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Just a doffing of my cap in admiration for this edit. I've read that paragraph dozens of times, and never noticed it. I've also heard it said he was born at an early age, but can't find a cite to confirm. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:35, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul...I've added several singles titles and promo titles to your Jagger/Richards listing, all of course can be found in The Rolling Stones discography. Now this list really looks complete. Nice work you've done on this yourself! Best, -- 76.198.234.254 ( talk) 00:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
OK , all fxed up, thanks for the note. That is the "biggest" template, probably 500 new instances a day, so it's good to get it right. Rich Farmbrough 11:52 4 July 2009 (UTC).
Hi. I did do the research, and spotted a couple of errors in the text and also tried to provide a slight expansion of the article, which I think will give it some of the things it needs without opening up the danger of it becoming a list of popular music artist. I'd really appreciate it if you could have a look at it on my sandbox at: User:Sabrebd/Sandbox and let me know what you think when you can find the time.-- Sabrebd ( talk) 12:33, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I see your point, this is what happens when you try to compact too much into a few sentences. The only way I can see of clarifying the section is to expand it - perhaps something like:
This is rough and I haven't had chance to footnote it properly. I am away for a couple of days if you can get the chance to look it over. Not sure if I have diluted the pop music as genre idea.-- Sabrebd ( talk) 07:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) thank you very much indeed for your great work on this poor beleaguered article - i'd say it was a pleasure working with you, but you did all the work! so: it was a pleasure interacting with you. swing on! Sssoul ( talk) 16:49, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Sssoul, I am unrestricted on talk pages and elsewhere. At the moment, I just can't edit the actual style guide pages. Tony (talk) 12:56, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Sssoul. we're encouraged by your positive answer on Wikipedia survey in Help-desk. We're considering of cooperating with Wikimedia foundation. The exposure of survey website to Wikipedians matters. In the case of Korean-language, we contacted admins here and they proposed to provide the link to survey website in the front page of Koeran wikipedia. As our research compares two version fo Korean and English, we wonder same method is also possible in English version. What do you think?
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I award you this Barnstar for your recent work in keeping the Little Richard page from deteriorating into a fansite. Said work displays a degree of patience and persistence we could all learn from. Seduisant ( talk) 12:09, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
Yes, of course I'll help. I've hated this section from the beginning, and resent the tone of its author, especially the implication that somehow, by trying to Wikify unreadable content, other editors are conspiring to minimize LR's influence. In particular, I find the assertion that "you DON'T know the significance of this information!" personally offensive - even though the "you" isn't me. And I despise the use of MySpace pages as encyclopedic sources.
I'll stop by the page in the next 24 hours and post a reasoned commentary. Among the many things I'll mention is the questionable addition of Bowie and the members of AC/DC as LR heirs - nothing against these gents, you understand, it's just....AC/DC? Really? Seduisant ( talk) 00:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
I replied to your messages at WT:LINK. I'm not sure if I answered all of your concerns; in particular, I'm not sure what other archived suggestions you are referring to. What do you mean by "the current structure was imposed prematurely"? Do you mean my edits, or do you refer to an earlier restructuring? I'm asking because I didn't really start out with the intention to impose a structure, but it may have turned out that way. Please don't be afraid to criticize me; I know what I can do alone is far from perfect - that's why we're working in a team! — Sebastian 16:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey, just wanted to let you know I replied to your comment on my talk page. Sorry for the delay. 2help ( message me) 03:38, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul. Noetica is being a cranky old man. You can safely ignore his grumpiness, which is less than skin-deep, I think. I've started a new section where people can try to sort out the text amicably. Can we try to harmonise/compromise/whatever on this matter? It's here. Tony (talk) 14:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
On the good read topic... one interview I've been looking to re-read is an interview with Alan Rogan from Guitar Player Mag... somewhere in the early 80s. It's a great interview where Rogan talks about the gear used by Woody and Keef on the NA/Europe tours from the previous year(s). He talks about the acquisition of Bill Wyman's short scale Travis Bean too. I can't find that mag in my archives. If you know a link... or a link to a scan of that interview I would mucho-appreciate it. Thanks! The Real Libs- speak politely 12:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
I accidentally reverted you at The Rolling Stones, and didn't realize it (it can happen with the iPhone interface). Sorry about that; someone else already reverted me, but I wanted to let you know it was an accident and I didn't intend to revert you. Mike Christie (talk) 12:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
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This may interest you. The Real Libs- speak politely 14:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Dear Sssoul, I have tried to improve the blues article along the lines you suggested. I would be glad if you could comment. Thanks. Vb ( talk) 14:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello, an RfC is now open for your comments on this issue at Wikipedia:Mosnum/proposal_on_YYYY-MM-DD_numerical_dates. -- Alarics ( talk) 09:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I wanted to thank you for the copyediting you did on my quick dash writing on the Mick Taylor article. You are good. I can be, in that respect, but just saw words in some place like "supposedly" (which is really a weasel word) abd so forth, but I shouldn't have been in there editing without having gained a more intimate feel for what had been written all the way through, on the basis of what reliable references existed. Do you use Wikimedia Commons? I know a photographer who has allowed us a couple of her vintage Rolling Stones photos: the new Keith Richards one in black and white, and also the one of Mick Taylor from the same period. (She knows lots of musicians through many positions in the music industry, so really she isn't just a photographer. Here's my problem right now. I had been uploading photos to Commons using the "Bryan" Flickr-upload. When that broke down, I did it manually. Though I've asked for help for over a year, nobody seems to be able to explain to me what a TUSC account is, or does, and the same for ORTIS. As a surprise, my friend sent me via email a photo of a recent Mick Taylor photo that surely belongs in the infobox, with her blessings. The permission is on the email. But she didn't put it in Flickr, and I don't know how to upload it to Commons myself because I've only dealt with Flickr uploads. Can you do it? If I forwarded the photo to you, could you upload it? It's really bothering me that I can't do it. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 20:29, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey Sssoul. I was going to rv the latest slew of IP sock edits to the little richard page but thought I would wait for you to review and ponder. If Sssoul says no then libs pop it back. The Real Libs- speak politely 08:04, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Sssoul, today I just had it with all the rules that change with the wind in Commons. I freaked out, and you were th unfortunate person in the path of my rage. I'm just so tired of having to adapt every which way there when I've never had any course in using computers and unlike here, few people will try to break it down in layman's terms, and those who do still assume I know far more than I do. So I really am sorry you were there at the time. If you check my user page you'll see I've uploaded so many images, but since I used (a broken) Flickr upload bot, no tally anywhere will actually reflect that. I hope you forgive the outburst. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 02:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh one other thing, I keep adding pics. Feel free to move them. When possible, until an article is being considered for GA status, if I put a photographer's name in the caption, please leave it there till the last minute as a favor, OK? Some of the photographers (these are mostly pros), are worried about theft of their art. I am coming to Flickr and literally asking them to give up their copyright to us! The best I can offer is to put their name for at least some time under the photo so they get the exposure and maybe new customers. I feel that's fair enough. The Stones photos you've seen, and Led Zeppelin ones and some others from other photographers were slated to be sold to books and I've been able to get them to let us have them. Don't know if you've seen my user page but I began listing uploads- there's only 1/4th there and it's a lot. Can we agree on the caption's attribution till GA time? Thanks. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 00:49, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Ok, sorry for mis-representing your view. Adrian J. Hunter( talk• contribs) 12:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
made me laugh. ;^) ↜ (‘Just M E ’here , now) 02:29, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Journal_of_Popular_Film_%26_Television&diff=322704983&oldid=322694973
The link here isn't a dead link - It is a link for purchasing the full article to read. In citations it is acceptable to link to article purchase pages. WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Appreciate your catch on this. I have reverted all of the links to country/blues spammed over the last 2 days. I didn't add anything further to the user talkpage as I felt you had dealt with the matter as fully as can be done. Keep up the good work.-- SabreBD ( talk) 11:22, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
These comments are preposterous and border on insulting. You are colluding in so-called editorial actions which are unsupportable and inappropriate, and abusing both the principles of common courtesy and the foundation idea of Wikipedia. The unfounded allegation that I am spamming is, frankly, absurd and unwarranted. This dialogue shows me that there in no objectivity and fairness on your part in this process. You are just going to gang up on me and no matter what rebuttal I present and how much I point to factual support of why my posts were legitimate, your are just "supporting each other". You have refused to provide any legitimate basis for your decisions and actions, which are clearly without basis. In my eyes, any intellectual discourse should be based on reason and fairness. You have demonstrated neither. This is nothing short of an abuse of power and a shameful action. You can call your self editors, but I deal with professional editors, with legitimate intellectuals and producers daily, and I know Scheisster pretenders when I see them. Shame on you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matheisf ( talk • contribs) 13:25, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks for the cleanup of all the excessive wikilinks on Robert Cray. The only reason I left off removing them is because I got an extremely unhappy note on my talkpage from User:Derek Bullamore, who I would have thought by now would agree with me that people who read a biography of a musician would surely know what a record was, without wikifying it. (He disagreed vehemently). It's still on my talk page, it was so recent. Sigh. I've had a good working relationship with him for the past couple of years and hate confrontation, but Robert Cray has played with so many other musicians that I end up returning to the page. I swear, the page was nearly all blue with links for the slightest thing! I finally told him I'd back off the articles he worked on if he'd do the favor, figuring someone else would find the page as I did, and help bring it back to standards. It was YOU, and a big thank you for doing so.-- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 23:46, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, thank you for posting on the talk, no i am not taking part in an 'edit war', and i mean that politely,
someone/ people seem to be removing and reverting info that was in there for quite some time and was legit information,
but just want to take it out because its about that guitarist. I think theres a word for that in 'Wiki' talk as they say...
but no i am not 'edit warring' so to speak.... But thank you for showing concern however, and attempting to remedy the situation ,
much appreciated. -- Occultaphenia ( talk) 10:12, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
-I appreciate your attempts at trying to avoid an edit war. the individual in question was a sock with a POV for Jimmy Page, against Pete Townshend, and had made numerous attempts to edit/remove info accordingly, dispute myself being diplomatic bout alot of information. He has now been banned for a bit. -- Occultaphenia ( talk) 02:37, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
I am pleased you made the change as it makes me look less illiterate, but please add to the opinion you have given, as in this type of survey opinions without a reason usually get discounted when assessing whether there is a consensus for or against something. -- PBS ( talk) 14:04, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the help in getting that section up and running. I'm new to Wikipedia, and clearly have a lot of reading to do; I do try to be helpful. I'll have to have a look through my plethora of Stones books for some information on amplifiers - unless, of course, you can cite photographs as legitimate evidence. Is this possible?--Alex MacPherson 16:36, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree; there are definitely some pieces of information that stand to be repeated as we work on this. I think we could probably incorporate "playing style" or something of the sort into the new section: perhaps "musical equipment and playing style" could be the new title. I did a little bit of looking for information on amplifiers, and there really isn't much that's extant. Most of what I know comes from forums of dedicated fans who, despite being absolutely correct in their analysis, aren't considered reputable sources. Any ideas? Is it possible to cite photographs from books, or must everything be text-based?Alex MacPherson 17:02, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough. I found a source for Keith's Fender Twins. As for the signature, I ddidn't think I'd eliminated the link to my talk page. I just checked, and it ought to be there. And yes, I've got to set it up to watch this page. If I can't figure it out for some reason, I'll let you know.Alex MacPherson ( talk) 17:32, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
I've been following the discussion (or lack thereof) on the KR article's discussion page, and concluded that we are the only two people bent on establishing a proper list of his musical equipment. While your comment about the lack of biographical information is certainly viable, I don't necessarily have the energy to commit to that right now. I'm going to do some more digginga and see what else I can come up with. The perennial problem is, of course, that most published works don't focus on gear; it's solely the domain of the rabid Stones fans. There are forums full of accurate information, but finding legitimate sources is going to be tough. I'll keep you posted though...Alex MacPherson ( talk) 04:49, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
The only way to monitor this would be to put both the image and the article Beggars Banquet on your watch-list. One of the reasons that the orphan notification is in place is to catch these instances of removal/vandalism - so keeping those two pages on the watch list would hopefully give you the heads-up that the image was removed. P.s. I've undone the deletion tag on the image page. Skier Dude ( talk) 04:22, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Long time no type. I've finally got some free time from school (and life) and I've been working on some album pages for the Stones. Just wondering if you'd keep an eye on the work and make sure it's in line with regs or even if it reads like a decent piece of writing. You working on anything specific that needs help? I was thinking that the Stones' musical evolution section (which never developed like I had hoped) is a major project that would boost the page's credibility considerably. Thanks and good work on all these pages you work on. Stan weller ( talk) 20:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Do you think that the regular, repeated vandalism might warrant a request to protect the LR article? I really appreciate your watchful eye on the article. You catch the vandals quick - usually beofre I do.-- Smoovedogg ( talk) 07:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul, I noticed someone began an article for The Dirty Mac. I always thought that was just a "one-off" conglomeration of people playing at the Rolling Stones Circus. Anyway, since it's an article, and listed on the page for John Lennon, I added it (reluctantly, really,) to the infobox on the page for Keith Richards. If it belongs there, it probably merits comment in the section about Keith playing bass guitar in his section dedicated to that instrument, too. I'm not really involved in the Stones articles currently as much as I'd like to be, and thought you the best person to mention this stuff to. I did upload another photo of Keith at the mic on his page and another of Ronnie Wood playing with the Stones to his page. Neither is of great quality, but both serve their purpose at the size they are. Lately I've been focusing on the Wikignome stuff I do, and editing Derek Trucks, and Rory Gallagher, (and it looks like I'll have to return to Cat Stevens, as it may easily lose it's GA ranking). Gallagher's article could use help... the best kept secret in Rock and Roll! So could Cat Stevens if you want a change of pace now and then, (hint!). Thanks for your time. If you respond, please do so on my talk page. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 06:12, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your answer. I've found two books, one partly authored by
Jools Holland, The Rolling Stones A Life on the Road, and another, Rolling Stone Interviews by
Jann Wenner (who else?) both of which appear to be good reliable sources for several articles. The first book is mainly photos, but is so huge it has a lot of text as well, and touches on the
Mick Taylor era of the
Rolling Stones, and has a lot of useful quotes and such. The second book has interviews in chapters, one from
Pete Townshend, about
The Who, and another from
Mick Jagger. They were easily found in a teeny little library a 5 minute walk from my house, so I'd assume you might find them anyway. However, being an "article rescue" type, the
Rory Gallagher article is really important to me now. I'm in the States now, and nobody here seems to know who he even was, although his dinky little page continues to get more hits than many other favourites of mine! If you have any guitar articles, or find any good sources about him other than those I put on his talk page, or the books written by him by his bassist,
Gerry McAvoy, or brother, Donal Gallagher, it would really help. I mentioned the Dirty Mac in particular b/c I recall Richards playing bass, and his personal article has a section about him playing bass, and I think a lot of these fans editors ;) would see that, first on
You Tube and go putting it in places where it really doesn't belong!
I knew the Cat Stevens article wasn't up to GA specs some time ago, sorry for asking- I just dread returning back to cover his youth! I wasn't around then! Ah well. Thanks! -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 11:01, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Sssoul, Are you familiar with the (online) radio programme called In the Studio with Redbeard? One day I simply bumped into it as a source, and it is interesting listening, and I wrote him from the website to ask if the interviews (that week, it was a Pete Townshend interview) would remain on the website for a while or be removed. Since I hadn't seen anything about Mick Taylor or some others, I wrote him to ask about it, and here is his response:
If you go online, Sssoul, you will find some interviews which are impeccable with at least the artists I listened to some time ago (maybe 6 months). It really is worth checking out. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 14:16, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Re: Pop music. My mistake. I thought I had seen British English usage elsewhere in the article. I must have been hallucinating. — Aladdin Sane ( talk) 06:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
I saw the discussion, but no one's cited a source. As a general principal, categories should back up cited article text. All Hallow's Wraith ( talk) 16:37, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
You know, I guess I never really thought of it like that before. Sure, the term "live" when concerning "concert" recordings is commonly accepted and understood in the lexicon. but "dead" recordings are... oh, wait! I get it now! "Dead" because they weren't "live" recordings?! Hahaaahaaa!! Hooohoohooo!! Hysterical! (work on your material, kid)... ;> Doc9871 ( talk) 10:12, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul, this clip showed up on You Tube but has some good information. Perhaps by contacting the poster, the source can be found and used in at least one Rolling Stones article. At the least, please check it out, it's quite informative!: "Keith Richards talks about the Blues" great commentary from Bill Wyman and Keith Richards. I love the comment about how Willie Dixon's " Little Red Rooster" was perhaps the only time a blues song made it to #1 on the chart. Mentions of John Lee Hooker, and more. Also, the DJ, "Redbeard"'s global radio interview show (which is also online) In the Studio just interviewed Mick Taylor and Wyman, regarding the anniversary of Let It Bleed. Just go to the link at the bottom of that page, and look it up! (He's also asked me to help clean up his article as he intended to do it himself, which is kind of iffy, so I'll have to ask an Admin about that.. but he knows the rules.. and is good at what he does, even if it's sort of "old school" Casey Kasem sort of approach to his interviews.-- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 17:03, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
I think you deserve this...
The Teamwork Barnstar | ||
I award Sssoul this barnstar for working with others to improve the Pete Townshend article and reach a consensus on its content. Camaron · Christopher · talk 16:26, 18 January 2010 (UTC) |
Camaron · Christopher · talk 16:26, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Sssoul, can you tell me anything about these three compilation albums which are red-linked: In Concert (1982), Story of The Stones (1982) and Les Annees Stones 1 (1989)? I found on Discogs that Story of The Stones was released by K-Tel in the UK back in 1982. This contradicts the Decca label shown in the discography. Best, -- Discographer ( talk) 16:32, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
A belated thanks for your previous help (and you will understand why it is belated). I wonder if you could cast your eye over a problem that has arisen with edits from an IP user ( talk), at the above article and may be related in some way to comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dance-pop. There may be some reasonable point being made here, but to be honest I cannot understand it. There is always the chance that it might be a little clearer to you, or that you might be able to suggest useful resolution. Thanks again.-- SabreBD ( talk) 11:29, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Sssoul, thank you for improving my add of Townsend & The Who performance to the SuperBowl! Best, Chuck Stack, aka CStack3 CStack3 ( talk) 15:44, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Sssoul, in the discography for
Mick Taylor, there is a "album" listed, called
let's get Stoned. The fact that the page is so often
vandalized, led me to wonder if this listed album in the discography - doesn't begin with a captiol letter in the title, which I never heard of, is legitimate. Do you know?
Also, can you help find me two or three people good with discographies. I know how to add good information, and cover sleeves to
vinyl album and
7"
45rpm singles. I'm having the hardest time. I want to start album and song pages for musicians who have missing album info, including specifically:
I just want to know, in cases that go back to say, 1980, where to find ratings, and more? I just need someone to teach me just showing how to create one album page, even just to Start-level, and the resulting red marks from discographies all over the place would be losing numerous led marks, as so many other musicians have collaborated on the albums I'd like to tackle! Please, help me find a couple "teachers" so I might continue to improve some of these artists' articles!-- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 00:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Apologies that this is taking me so long, but I am very busy in real life and have managed to get invovled in an editing dispute at Gothic (term) which is absorbing my time. I hope to grab some focused time at the weekend.-- SabreBD ( talk) 16:02, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Ssoul- the listing of the Rolling Stones single, " Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow?" - the B-side of the song is " Who's Driving Your Plane?"-- but no song page has been made for it yet. I had a (rare) image of the B-side single and sleeve and uploaded it, since foolishly, I planned to figure out how to attach the B-side song cover to the bottom side of the infobox of "Have You Seen Your Mother...", (something common on the other song pages, but which I've never tried before) I uploaded it here: [1] I keep hoping someone will teach me to do a decent new song (or new album) page.. but as you can see a bot just gave me a few days to use the uploaded "fair use" single cover, and I accidentally sliced my fingers on my right hand, got stiches -and have a splint on my right index finger, typing is near impossible now, added to my ignorance of song pages. I don't know who else might help with this. I don't know editors here, so since this image is hard to come by, would you please help adding it to " Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow?", or else begin a song page for " Who's Driving Your Plane?"? It's taking me forever now just to type this!
Additionally, if you (or anyone you can find) would just teach me, there is so much I could contribute by means of starting some album pages and song articles. Same goes for discographies. I'm just taught once to properly go about a discography-- (I am especially anxious about Rory Gallagher- the discography portion is a mess- a separate discography page was created for his solo albums released while he was alive, but some of the albums never had article pages created, including - posthumous complations and significantly, a lot of collaborations with artists including Muddy Waters, Jack Bruce, and others, whose own discographies would likewise benefit if I knew where to look to create album articles-- Mick Taylor, Bill Wyman, and Charlie Watts all could likewise benefit. If I could just learn the places to find sources -names of songs with credits and time length, personnel.. I could at least get stubs begun. Please think about that, aside from getting photos, and wikignome things I do actually edit a few musicians' articles, ( Derek Trucks, Cat Stevens, etc.) and am especially anxious about Rory Gallagher.
Last, I uploaded a lot of photos to Wikimedia Commons a couple of days ago, including some early Rolling Stones pics-- my username is the same there as it is here and I now keep a list of over 375 uploaded photos under a tiny gallery of a few favorites on my Wikipedia userpage in case you want to look for any photos there- over 375 pics. Mick Jagger's article has so little text, a couple are on the 1972 tour article, one each: Mick Taylor, Ron Wood, and another on Jagger/Richards (as the two are sharing a microphone and it's such a great shot). There's one last exceptional photo of Taylor and Richards from an entire soundboard photo but would prefer if you email me.. it's outstanding, but I think you should take a look at it before I even consider trying to upload it under "fair use", since it's not your typical find. Would you do that? My email is active. I'll have a look to try to figure out how to add a second image to that song I first mentioned above, but all this typing has been tough! -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 20:46, 31 March 2010 (UTC)