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I am trying to edit the LundXY entry. I have no commercial interest in the company, but I recognise its current (and future) importance, particularly in funding humanitarian projects, so I've been working through it and polishing it up, adding references where necessary and taking out peacock terms etc. My argument is that this entry is very much in the public interest, as it is and will be an important source of funding for startups aimed at improving quality of life in developing countries, included basic necessities of life, like clean water supply. If you actually check the current references yourself you should realise that this is a significant company.
I'd appreciate if you could explain to me why it's being tagged as being too much like an advert? What do I need to do to avoid this charge?
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ljon72 ( talk • contribs)
I was still editing when you added the tag.
So you admit you have no knowledge of the industry. I wonder if Evb-wiki has any personal knowledge of the European technology investment scene? Probably not. But my point is, that's what the references are for at the bottom!
Thanks Ljon72 ( talk) 13:32, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I noticed you're a good German speaker. I'm wondering if you could help out at WikiProject Munich. Maybe you could help out with the project's Translation page. If you're interested, you can sign up here. Kingjeff 04:08, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
No problem, for the most part I've been copying other episodes formatting and replacing relevant parts. Template should help quite a bit! :) -- Sigz 00:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I feel it should be two separate episodes (as should Hiatus) because they aired on different dates. If it was a continuous two hour episode then they could be one page, however they are different. Joining these episodes would be the same as joining any other episodes. Just because they have the same title (with a part 1 + 2) doesn't mean they belong in the same article. Mhrmaw 02:01, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Can you please show me the Wikipedia guideline that says already aired episodes of television shows don't need references? I would like to understand it for future reference. According to Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Television episodes it says:
Content about television episodes must conform to Wikipedia content policies, including but not limited to Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No original research.
Thanks. Shaundakulbara 18:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
It is the case. The fact that a guideline hasn't been applied to "B" doesn't mean they shouldn't be applied to "A'. That's been said to me many times. I appreciate your frustration that you think I am meddling in an inappropriate way. I have been in your shoes, and that feeling sucks. But the guidelines do apply. The idea that articles can "be verified by everyone just by watching the episode" doesn't make the grade. Please don't remove notability tags. Shaundakulbara 20:27, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Regarding this, I never said that either WP:ALBUM or WP:FLAGCRUFT were policy. I do however think we should consider following guidelines unless we have a good reason not to, and was trying to explain that the guideline exists for a reason, part of which I think is to avoid WP:FLAGCRUFT. Another part is that including the release date of every country an album has been released in can cause the list of dates and countries (or flags, if used) to get very large. Using only the first release date therefore makes the infobox more concise. So far the only argument you've brought up is "The box is there to summarize the most important details." which might as well be used to support following the guidelines. Let me ask you two questions: Why specifically do you think we should not follow the guidelines in this case? And how many flags do you consider to be the optimal number for the release date field in an album infobox of an album released in say thirty countries, in general? -- PEJL 16:23, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Whether other articles have them or not is immaterial. Fair use of an album cover may only be used in an article discussing the album. To use them on an article about the artist is a copyright violation. Corvus cornix 21:43, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey. So have we resolved the issue? I still don't think any of the sources are valid although the CBS's wiki seems to be monitored by a moderator. I'm going to leave the CBS's wiki as the only source to be cited since it appears to be more reliable than the others. Regards, Ladida 00:16, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I won't have time in the next few weeks because of exams. I can do it after they finish if no one else has done them. Regards, Ladida 01:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
... I know a place for you to help with your NCIS knowledge. here is a wiki in need of help. I'm a user over on that wiki known as General Grham. We really need any help we can find. Thanks! Mooapau Talk to Me NCIS wiki 00:10, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Because it's not necessary to note in the lead that he has no last name, most people can assume that. -- Scorpion 0422 12:18, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Indeed! Thanks for fixing that. :) Regards, Jim_Lockhart ( talk) 06:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
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-- Zeitgespenst ( talk) 16:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Thankyou for fixing my typo's on the mini drones paragraph of drone weapons. Spelling was never my strong point, but I though it was worth noting the mini drones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.150.115.172 ( talk) 15:42, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
First off, I am not required by wikipedia policy to create a user account, so your insinuation that to be taken seriously I need one, is wholly out of line. Secondly, find me a source that says that there was ever a character named Vivian Blackadder that appeared on the NCIS television show. Show me where on tv.com, imdb.com, the first season of the dvd, this character appeared. I notice that we're not counting Raab as a former character on NCIS, nor any of the other people who were in the JAG show where the NCIS team first appeared. Your insinuation that "she appears in the NCIS universe" is ridiculous. Tony frequently talks about movies, actresses, models, etc...they all appear in the NCIS universe too?? Are they worth mentioning? Vivian Blackadder was NEVER an NCIS character. She has never appeared on a single solitary episode of the show. The fact that the team was introduced on a separate show does not mean that she appeared on THIS show. A quick check of the actresses filmography will show that she's never appeared on NCIS. A quick study of the episode listing will show that Ice Queen and Meltdown are JAG episodes, not NCIS. You claim that simply reverting is wrong, yet you're the one starting an edit war and insisting that false information be included in an article, then demanding that I create a user account. Get serious. 74.142.88.126 ( talk) 20:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I am attempting to build consensus about the "Pre-launch violence" section in the Grand Theft Auto IV article. Please feel free to contribute to the discussion -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 10:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi; I've reverted your edit again as if the information is there only to speculate as to how River could have Jack's gun, then it's original research. If Moffat said so on Confidential (I don't know), then that needs to be cited. Otherwise, the detail is relevant only to "The Doctor dances", or maybe "The Parting of the Ways". Thanks. ?? TreasuryTag ( talk ? contribs)?? 13:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
...is most emphatically not BBC in Australia. It is majority owned by Rupert Murdoch, shows commercial UK television and even non-UK content. MartinSFSA ( talk) 11:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy; as of today the BBC and Foxtel have announced an agreement which will see UKTV become one hundred percent BBC, with other BBC channels to be available through cable. Nicely anticipated! MartinSFSA ( talk) 21:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
I sympathize, but I think its important to retain broad edibility - just revert the stupid as it comes. Phil Sandifer ( talk) 15:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
REf to your message undoing my post on KP Singh..I am of the firm belief that corruption and crony capitalism can be called by any other name but it would not change. Thus If there is a crime committed by KP Singh then it is my moral duty to let the world know about it. Unless you are being paid by the company or the company has agreed to fund or donate to Wikipedia. In case you are a wikipedia administrator and based in germany you can send me your email id and I will scan the written proof of his misdoings and you could have the privilege it posting it on the net.
This isnt my personal view but a legal position. If someone wrote about Adolf Hitler that he committed genocide and had concentration camps...would that be against NPOV policy of wikipedia???
Kanishka Singh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanishkasingh08 ( talk • contribs)
please check the discussion page we have already had discussion regarding this. it is not dalit "outcaste". you can re-type the redirect link as dalit "untouchables" please make the necessary changes. dalits are the lowest caste in the indian systems not outcaste. although the caste system is actually abolished in india. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arjuna316 ( talk • contribs)
Thanks for taking care of the vandalism on my talk page. :) Much appreciated. All the best, PeterSymonds (talk) 12:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | → | Archive 5 |
This archive is not complete. Messages before November 2006 can be accessed via the talk page's history. |
I am trying to edit the LundXY entry. I have no commercial interest in the company, but I recognise its current (and future) importance, particularly in funding humanitarian projects, so I've been working through it and polishing it up, adding references where necessary and taking out peacock terms etc. My argument is that this entry is very much in the public interest, as it is and will be an important source of funding for startups aimed at improving quality of life in developing countries, included basic necessities of life, like clean water supply. If you actually check the current references yourself you should realise that this is a significant company.
I'd appreciate if you could explain to me why it's being tagged as being too much like an advert? What do I need to do to avoid this charge?
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ljon72 ( talk • contribs)
I was still editing when you added the tag.
So you admit you have no knowledge of the industry. I wonder if Evb-wiki has any personal knowledge of the European technology investment scene? Probably not. But my point is, that's what the references are for at the bottom!
Thanks Ljon72 ( talk) 13:32, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I noticed you're a good German speaker. I'm wondering if you could help out at WikiProject Munich. Maybe you could help out with the project's Translation page. If you're interested, you can sign up here. Kingjeff 04:08, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
No problem, for the most part I've been copying other episodes formatting and replacing relevant parts. Template should help quite a bit! :) -- Sigz 00:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I feel it should be two separate episodes (as should Hiatus) because they aired on different dates. If it was a continuous two hour episode then they could be one page, however they are different. Joining these episodes would be the same as joining any other episodes. Just because they have the same title (with a part 1 + 2) doesn't mean they belong in the same article. Mhrmaw 02:01, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Can you please show me the Wikipedia guideline that says already aired episodes of television shows don't need references? I would like to understand it for future reference. According to Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Television episodes it says:
Content about television episodes must conform to Wikipedia content policies, including but not limited to Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No original research.
Thanks. Shaundakulbara 18:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
It is the case. The fact that a guideline hasn't been applied to "B" doesn't mean they shouldn't be applied to "A'. That's been said to me many times. I appreciate your frustration that you think I am meddling in an inappropriate way. I have been in your shoes, and that feeling sucks. But the guidelines do apply. The idea that articles can "be verified by everyone just by watching the episode" doesn't make the grade. Please don't remove notability tags. Shaundakulbara 20:27, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Regarding this, I never said that either WP:ALBUM or WP:FLAGCRUFT were policy. I do however think we should consider following guidelines unless we have a good reason not to, and was trying to explain that the guideline exists for a reason, part of which I think is to avoid WP:FLAGCRUFT. Another part is that including the release date of every country an album has been released in can cause the list of dates and countries (or flags, if used) to get very large. Using only the first release date therefore makes the infobox more concise. So far the only argument you've brought up is "The box is there to summarize the most important details." which might as well be used to support following the guidelines. Let me ask you two questions: Why specifically do you think we should not follow the guidelines in this case? And how many flags do you consider to be the optimal number for the release date field in an album infobox of an album released in say thirty countries, in general? -- PEJL 16:23, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Whether other articles have them or not is immaterial. Fair use of an album cover may only be used in an article discussing the album. To use them on an article about the artist is a copyright violation. Corvus cornix 21:43, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey. So have we resolved the issue? I still don't think any of the sources are valid although the CBS's wiki seems to be monitored by a moderator. I'm going to leave the CBS's wiki as the only source to be cited since it appears to be more reliable than the others. Regards, Ladida 00:16, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I won't have time in the next few weeks because of exams. I can do it after they finish if no one else has done them. Regards, Ladida 01:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
... I know a place for you to help with your NCIS knowledge. here is a wiki in need of help. I'm a user over on that wiki known as General Grham. We really need any help we can find. Thanks! Mooapau Talk to Me NCIS wiki 00:10, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Because it's not necessary to note in the lead that he has no last name, most people can assume that. -- Scorpion 0422 12:18, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Indeed! Thanks for fixing that. :) Regards, Jim_Lockhart ( talk) 06:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
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-- Zeitgespenst ( talk) 16:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Thankyou for fixing my typo's on the mini drones paragraph of drone weapons. Spelling was never my strong point, but I though it was worth noting the mini drones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.150.115.172 ( talk) 15:42, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
First off, I am not required by wikipedia policy to create a user account, so your insinuation that to be taken seriously I need one, is wholly out of line. Secondly, find me a source that says that there was ever a character named Vivian Blackadder that appeared on the NCIS television show. Show me where on tv.com, imdb.com, the first season of the dvd, this character appeared. I notice that we're not counting Raab as a former character on NCIS, nor any of the other people who were in the JAG show where the NCIS team first appeared. Your insinuation that "she appears in the NCIS universe" is ridiculous. Tony frequently talks about movies, actresses, models, etc...they all appear in the NCIS universe too?? Are they worth mentioning? Vivian Blackadder was NEVER an NCIS character. She has never appeared on a single solitary episode of the show. The fact that the team was introduced on a separate show does not mean that she appeared on THIS show. A quick check of the actresses filmography will show that she's never appeared on NCIS. A quick study of the episode listing will show that Ice Queen and Meltdown are JAG episodes, not NCIS. You claim that simply reverting is wrong, yet you're the one starting an edit war and insisting that false information be included in an article, then demanding that I create a user account. Get serious. 74.142.88.126 ( talk) 20:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I am attempting to build consensus about the "Pre-launch violence" section in the Grand Theft Auto IV article. Please feel free to contribute to the discussion -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 10:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi; I've reverted your edit again as if the information is there only to speculate as to how River could have Jack's gun, then it's original research. If Moffat said so on Confidential (I don't know), then that needs to be cited. Otherwise, the detail is relevant only to "The Doctor dances", or maybe "The Parting of the Ways". Thanks. ?? TreasuryTag ( talk ? contribs)?? 13:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
...is most emphatically not BBC in Australia. It is majority owned by Rupert Murdoch, shows commercial UK television and even non-UK content. MartinSFSA ( talk) 11:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy; as of today the BBC and Foxtel have announced an agreement which will see UKTV become one hundred percent BBC, with other BBC channels to be available through cable. Nicely anticipated! MartinSFSA ( talk) 21:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
I sympathize, but I think its important to retain broad edibility - just revert the stupid as it comes. Phil Sandifer ( talk) 15:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
REf to your message undoing my post on KP Singh..I am of the firm belief that corruption and crony capitalism can be called by any other name but it would not change. Thus If there is a crime committed by KP Singh then it is my moral duty to let the world know about it. Unless you are being paid by the company or the company has agreed to fund or donate to Wikipedia. In case you are a wikipedia administrator and based in germany you can send me your email id and I will scan the written proof of his misdoings and you could have the privilege it posting it on the net.
This isnt my personal view but a legal position. If someone wrote about Adolf Hitler that he committed genocide and had concentration camps...would that be against NPOV policy of wikipedia???
Kanishka Singh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanishkasingh08 ( talk • contribs)
please check the discussion page we have already had discussion regarding this. it is not dalit "outcaste". you can re-type the redirect link as dalit "untouchables" please make the necessary changes. dalits are the lowest caste in the indian systems not outcaste. although the caste system is actually abolished in india. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arjuna316 ( talk • contribs)
Thanks for taking care of the vandalism on my talk page. :) Much appreciated. All the best, PeterSymonds (talk) 12:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)