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Thanks for the note, I replied on my talk page. Alun ( talk) 15:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Please stop your vandalism on this article by removing perfectly valid studies and changing the numbers. 1) Peireira analysed only Iberians and NOT other europeans. 2) Studies by Cerruti, Calderon which analysed GM and KM immunoglobulin in Sicily and Spain are two of the most renowned european genetists so dont remove their studies as well. If you continue this vandalism I will ask the administrators to block your account-- 90.36.158.27 ( talk) 14:34, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
This is supposed to be about african admixutre in EUROPE, not just Iberia. Please, don't hidde the african admixutre of other european countries, for example NOrway has 1.4% and Finland has 2%
DNA Truth ( talk) 03:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Small victory I agree with your idea]ls of trying to make Wikipedia a fair and balanced place even in the face of Afrocentrists and people who are racist against southern Europeans so I wanted to see if your O.K with a request of Adminship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Small_Victory In other words I will help you be a Admin if you like and I hope you will help me be a Admin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/SOPHIAN .
Sincerely SOPHIAN ( talk) 22:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree !!
DNA truth ( talk) 3:04, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey Small Victory. There's a discussion going on on the E1b1b talk page regarding one particular quote, where (when you have the time) your input would be most appreciated. Cheers, Causteau ( talk) 18:04, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Can you please write with a less aggressive tone on talk pages? The sub Saharan admixture article was called to the attention of many editors on genetics articles some back, as a case with a lot of editing disagreement over a long period of time. Any neutral appraisal of the article will indeed show that it has been a very controversial mess, needing a lot of work, or possibly deletion. I believe I've posted no unreasonable questions or comments, deserving of remarks like the ones you have been posting. If everything is so clear and simple then why are there no clear and simple responses being given to constructive questions?-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 13:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
To me this and this seems overboard? Do you want to explain yourself? You gave me a "what if" question and I answered you in a clear way, more than once. FWIW, I did not accuse you of any particular theory of R1b origins, but just mentioned as a side issue that your "what if" is distractingly unrealistic. On the other hand, you have had several chances to answer in some way that shows you read my response, and instead you deflected discussion into an increasingly ad hominem attack which is only about the "what if". Deflection and ad hominem seems to be things you do relatively often [1], [2], [3], [4]. Why not just stick the subject?-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 10:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Maybe your explanations are just poor? I don't see how you can justify calling someone a chimp just because you can't get your point across. I think assuming that communication problems are all someone else's problem is a common cause of communication problems.-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 13:27, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Once again please do not divert to side issues, and do not divert to personal attacks. Such diversions make communication impossible, irrespective of the quality of other peoples' reading skills. The edits I cited were simply unacceptable, and unconstructive, as are your responses here. If you have anything to say about that, please do. Otherwise just please do not do it anymore. Just explain what your positions are concerning Wikipedia wordings.-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 15:23, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Your pursuit of bad communication and disruption continues. Concerning [this edit http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Eurasian_Adam&diff=311641535&oldid=311617570], I move discussion of your irrelevant posting to your own talkpage just to point it out:
You seem unable to ever back down on any subject no matter how small or simple, nor to listen to what others try to communicate with you. You always reply by looking for an escape away from the subject, using a smokescreen of personal stuff. Do you even know you do it?-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 12:43, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to
Genetic history of Europe, but we cannot accept
original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a
reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. Your chart analysis are, in fact, OR.
Irbisgreif (
talk)
16:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. I welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to
Genetic history of Europe, but I cannot accept
original research. Please be prepared to cite a
reliable source for all of your information. Please, do not remove reliable information as you do it on
Genetic history of Europe. Thank you!
Jingby (
talk)
12:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive comments.
If you continue to make
personal attacks on other people as you did at
Talk:Genetic_history_of_Europe#Information_Suppression, you will be
blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. This has gone on long enough. Added to your admission a few lines above that you do, indeed "talk down" to other editors, it is becoming apparent that you are not here to edit in a collegial atmosphere. Your extensive use of bullying and insults in order to belittle other's contributions is beyond the parameters of the Wikipedia project. This is a final warning to desist. (
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12:47, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Please refrain from calling people liars in the edit comments. Sub-Saharan African influences: There's no consensus on Muntuwandi's version. That's a huge lie. Myself and PB666 have criticized it extensively on the Talk Page: #17.1.1, #23, #25, #31, etc.. PB666 yap 05:07, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
You are suspected of
sockpuppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the
notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Victorius III. Thank you.
NW (
Talk)
15:21, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
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It s probably worth mentioning to you that I am glad you have started to edit on African admixture in Europe. You seem to see everything on Wikipedia in terms of Afrocentrists versus defenders of righteousness, but that is nonsense. I am open to any requests for advice from you (or Muntuwandi) about this. I hope the article will turn out OK. "Listen" to people, and always ask what good thing they are trying to do.-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 21:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Regarding your statement at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 August 27, please do not re-nominate the article for deletion. Doing so would be disruptive and will result in your being blocked. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:32, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
After a deletion debate concludes and the page is kept, users should allow a reasonable amount of time to pass before nominating the same page for deletion again, to give editors the time to improve the page.
You have been blocked for 48 hours because of your disruptive edit [5] to African_admixture_in_Europe. When the block expires, please try to contribute in a constructive manner. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Small Victory ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I've apparently been blocked for adding the appropriate template messages to a heavily disputed article. The blocking Admin called it "disruptive", but it's just responsible editing. In fact, most of the templates I added have been left in place, only formatted differently. I apologize if I did it wrong, but I don't think that's a reason to block me. My intention was only to warn people of the issues affecting the article.
Decline reason:
If that were the only thing, I'd be inclined to consider an unblock. But your record as a whole reveals chronic difficulty in working constructively with others. Something like this was eventually bound to happen. Consider it a learning experience. — Daniel Case ( talk) 13:16, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
You might be interested in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Black_African_genetic_contribution_to_the_population_of_the_European_continent
Despite having no consensus on the talk page, Andrew Lancaster has again tried to delete Eurasian Adam. Your input in appreciated: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eurasian Adam (2nd nomination). — Reinyday, 16:08, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
You recently made a third attempt to add a number of warning tags to African_admixture_in_Europe. You have persisted in non-constructive behavior which is detrimental to this project, despite a large number of people attempting to educate you and provide guidance about what is appropriate and what is not. Wikipedia simply cannot afford to have so many people spending so much of their time dealing with you when that time and energy could be devoted to improving the encyclopedia. Therefore, I have blocked your editing privileges for a month. Hopefully, in a month's time you will be willing and able to return to the project and contribute in useful ways. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
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Request reason:
This is getting ridiculous. I've just been blocked again by the same Admin for doing nothing more than adding a "multiple issues" warning tag to a heavily disputed article (which another user keeps removing). The first block was already unjustified, but I let it go because it was only for 48 hours. But this time he's blocked me for a month! Since when is it against the rules to tag contentious articles, and OK for other editors to remove those tags without addressing any of the problems? That's completely backwards and makes no sense at all.
Decline reason:
As noted, below, adding maintenance tags to an article is a good way to highlight specific issues that need to be addressed. The tag was even removed with such a request ( here), which you ignored when you replaced the tag. That's edit warring. I have not reviewed the debate, and have no position on the issue of whether the content is or is not OR, POV, or Unbalanced - and you may have good arguments to show that those concerns have merit. But disruptively adding the tags repeatedly, when consensus is that they do not apply, and doing so without engaging other editors who ask for more specific information, is highly disruptive, and nothing in your unblock request offers a reason to lift the block. Declined. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 15:01, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
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I don't see what my past behavior has to do with anything, especially when it dates back three years. This is about whether or not adding warning tags to a contentious article is against the rules and merits a month-long block. Yes, I've had disputes and disagreements with other editors (who hasn't?), and no, I'm not the nicest guy in the world during these heated debates (which is not necessarily equivalent to incivility), but the fact remains that I've never been sanctioned for anything before. Up until these two recent (and unjustified) blocks, my record was
clean. The only reason there's been so much focus on me lately is that a particular editor (
Muntuwandi/Wapondaponda) has been forum shopping trying to have me blocked and my sources prohibited because I vigorously challenge his OR and POV (he's doing it again right now in this thread).
Which brings me to why I'm insisting on the warning tags. The article in question has a long and storied history. It started out as Sub-Saharan DNA admixture in Europe, which was recently deleted, with the consensus being that its contents should be merged in abbreviated form into Genetic history of Europe. So the content dispute continued there. Then, just two weeks later, Muntuwandi recreated the article, going against the consensus and Wikipedia policy. Well, Mangojuice alluded to what happened next with the new AfD and subsequent DRV, but I maintain that the article was saved on a technicality, which is an absurd reason, and that the original consensus that the subject isn't notable enough to be treated separately still stands. Point is, the same content has been discussed ad nauseam on multiple talk pages and in two deletion discussions. Thus, I've made my concerns perfectly clear over and over again, especially regarding Muntuwandi's OR and POV, which I'm by no means alone in recognizing. Causteau, Jingiby, The Ogre, Victorius III, AnwarSadatFan and Hxseek have all reverted and/or expressed concerns about his edits (and I'm sure there have been others as well). Just ask former Admin William M. Connolley, who noticed this pattern too.
And since we're going after people for their past behavior, let it be known that Muntuwandi has a terrible record and that he's created a whopping 76 sockpuppets to try to circumvent his many blocks. He's currently on 1RR probation, which he violates constantly, but no one does anything about it. Why he's allowed free reign while I'm blocked for adding a measly (and totally justified) warning tag to his biased article boggles my mind. And it should boggle yours too. ---- Small Victory ( talk) 13:29, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
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@ UltraExactZZ - Since when does a single individual constitute a consensus? Other editors had left most of my warning tags in place. Even RoySmith didn't remove them at first. It was only Andrew Lancaster doing that. So you're wrong about there being a "consensus...that they do not apply". If anything, Lancaster was the one going against consensus and being disruptive. Regardless, if it's edit warring that I'm now being punished for, then the other participant should be punished too. Lancaster's request for specific information is a disingenuous ploy to get away with reverting my edits. As I said, I've been debating the same content with him (and others) for the past several months. I've expressed numerous concerns about it, both general and specific, at that article's talk page, at other talk pages and at deletion discussions. He has all the information he needs. He just chooses to ignore it. ----
Small Victory (
talk)
13:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Dear Small Victory: Welcome to Wikipedia, a free and open-content encyclopedia. I hope you enjoy contributing. To help get you settled in, I thought you might find the following pages useful:
Don't worry too much about being perfect. Very few of us are! Just in case you are not perfect, click here to see how you can avoid making common mistakes.
If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the
New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}}
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Wikipedians try to follow a strict policy of never biting new users. If you are unsure of how to do something, you are welcome to ask a more experienced user such as an administrator. One last bit of advice: please sign any dicussion comment with four tildes (~~~~). The software will automatically convert this into your signature which can be altered in the "Preferences" tab at the top of the screen. I hope I have not overwhelmed you with information. If you need any help just let me know. Once again welcome to Wikipedia, and don't forget to tell us about yourself and be BOLD! FloNight talk 11:25, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the note, I replied on my talk page. Alun ( talk) 15:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Please stop your vandalism on this article by removing perfectly valid studies and changing the numbers. 1) Peireira analysed only Iberians and NOT other europeans. 2) Studies by Cerruti, Calderon which analysed GM and KM immunoglobulin in Sicily and Spain are two of the most renowned european genetists so dont remove their studies as well. If you continue this vandalism I will ask the administrators to block your account-- 90.36.158.27 ( talk) 14:34, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
This is supposed to be about african admixutre in EUROPE, not just Iberia. Please, don't hidde the african admixutre of other european countries, for example NOrway has 1.4% and Finland has 2%
DNA Truth ( talk) 03:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Small victory I agree with your idea]ls of trying to make Wikipedia a fair and balanced place even in the face of Afrocentrists and people who are racist against southern Europeans so I wanted to see if your O.K with a request of Adminship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Small_Victory In other words I will help you be a Admin if you like and I hope you will help me be a Admin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/SOPHIAN .
Sincerely SOPHIAN ( talk) 22:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree !!
DNA truth ( talk) 3:04, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey Small Victory. There's a discussion going on on the E1b1b talk page regarding one particular quote, where (when you have the time) your input would be most appreciated. Cheers, Causteau ( talk) 18:04, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Can you please write with a less aggressive tone on talk pages? The sub Saharan admixture article was called to the attention of many editors on genetics articles some back, as a case with a lot of editing disagreement over a long period of time. Any neutral appraisal of the article will indeed show that it has been a very controversial mess, needing a lot of work, or possibly deletion. I believe I've posted no unreasonable questions or comments, deserving of remarks like the ones you have been posting. If everything is so clear and simple then why are there no clear and simple responses being given to constructive questions?-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 13:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
To me this and this seems overboard? Do you want to explain yourself? You gave me a "what if" question and I answered you in a clear way, more than once. FWIW, I did not accuse you of any particular theory of R1b origins, but just mentioned as a side issue that your "what if" is distractingly unrealistic. On the other hand, you have had several chances to answer in some way that shows you read my response, and instead you deflected discussion into an increasingly ad hominem attack which is only about the "what if". Deflection and ad hominem seems to be things you do relatively often [1], [2], [3], [4]. Why not just stick the subject?-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 10:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Maybe your explanations are just poor? I don't see how you can justify calling someone a chimp just because you can't get your point across. I think assuming that communication problems are all someone else's problem is a common cause of communication problems.-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 13:27, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Once again please do not divert to side issues, and do not divert to personal attacks. Such diversions make communication impossible, irrespective of the quality of other peoples' reading skills. The edits I cited were simply unacceptable, and unconstructive, as are your responses here. If you have anything to say about that, please do. Otherwise just please do not do it anymore. Just explain what your positions are concerning Wikipedia wordings.-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 15:23, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Your pursuit of bad communication and disruption continues. Concerning [this edit http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Eurasian_Adam&diff=311641535&oldid=311617570], I move discussion of your irrelevant posting to your own talkpage just to point it out:
You seem unable to ever back down on any subject no matter how small or simple, nor to listen to what others try to communicate with you. You always reply by looking for an escape away from the subject, using a smokescreen of personal stuff. Do you even know you do it?-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 12:43, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to
Genetic history of Europe, but we cannot accept
original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a
reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. Your chart analysis are, in fact, OR.
Irbisgreif (
talk)
16:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. I welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to
Genetic history of Europe, but I cannot accept
original research. Please be prepared to cite a
reliable source for all of your information. Please, do not remove reliable information as you do it on
Genetic history of Europe. Thank you!
Jingby (
talk)
12:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive comments.
If you continue to make
personal attacks on other people as you did at
Talk:Genetic_history_of_Europe#Information_Suppression, you will be
blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. This has gone on long enough. Added to your admission a few lines above that you do, indeed "talk down" to other editors, it is becoming apparent that you are not here to edit in a collegial atmosphere. Your extensive use of bullying and insults in order to belittle other's contributions is beyond the parameters of the Wikipedia project. This is a final warning to desist. (
talk→
BWilkins
←track)
12:47, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Please refrain from calling people liars in the edit comments. Sub-Saharan African influences: There's no consensus on Muntuwandi's version. That's a huge lie. Myself and PB666 have criticized it extensively on the Talk Page: #17.1.1, #23, #25, #31, etc.. PB666 yap 05:07, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
You are suspected of
sockpuppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the
notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Victorius III. Thank you.
NW (
Talk)
15:21, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
{{
unblock|I was just cleared of the charge of sockpuppetry following the results of a CheckUser. Now I get blocked based on "behavioral evidence"? Someone is going around copying me. He's the one you should be investigating. Please perform another CheckUser. This is ridiculous.}}
It s probably worth mentioning to you that I am glad you have started to edit on African admixture in Europe. You seem to see everything on Wikipedia in terms of Afrocentrists versus defenders of righteousness, but that is nonsense. I am open to any requests for advice from you (or Muntuwandi) about this. I hope the article will turn out OK. "Listen" to people, and always ask what good thing they are trying to do.-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 21:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Regarding your statement at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 August 27, please do not re-nominate the article for deletion. Doing so would be disruptive and will result in your being blocked. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:32, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
After a deletion debate concludes and the page is kept, users should allow a reasonable amount of time to pass before nominating the same page for deletion again, to give editors the time to improve the page.
You have been blocked for 48 hours because of your disruptive edit [5] to African_admixture_in_Europe. When the block expires, please try to contribute in a constructive manner. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Small Victory ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I've apparently been blocked for adding the appropriate template messages to a heavily disputed article. The blocking Admin called it "disruptive", but it's just responsible editing. In fact, most of the templates I added have been left in place, only formatted differently. I apologize if I did it wrong, but I don't think that's a reason to block me. My intention was only to warn people of the issues affecting the article.
Decline reason:
If that were the only thing, I'd be inclined to consider an unblock. But your record as a whole reveals chronic difficulty in working constructively with others. Something like this was eventually bound to happen. Consider it a learning experience. — Daniel Case ( talk) 13:16, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
You might be interested in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Black_African_genetic_contribution_to_the_population_of_the_European_continent
Despite having no consensus on the talk page, Andrew Lancaster has again tried to delete Eurasian Adam. Your input in appreciated: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eurasian Adam (2nd nomination). — Reinyday, 16:08, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
You recently made a third attempt to add a number of warning tags to African_admixture_in_Europe. You have persisted in non-constructive behavior which is detrimental to this project, despite a large number of people attempting to educate you and provide guidance about what is appropriate and what is not. Wikipedia simply cannot afford to have so many people spending so much of their time dealing with you when that time and energy could be devoted to improving the encyclopedia. Therefore, I have blocked your editing privileges for a month. Hopefully, in a month's time you will be willing and able to return to the project and contribute in useful ways. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Small Victory ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
This is getting ridiculous. I've just been blocked again by the same Admin for doing nothing more than adding a "multiple issues" warning tag to a heavily disputed article (which another user keeps removing). The first block was already unjustified, but I let it go because it was only for 48 hours. But this time he's blocked me for a month! Since when is it against the rules to tag contentious articles, and OK for other editors to remove those tags without addressing any of the problems? That's completely backwards and makes no sense at all.
Decline reason:
As noted, below, adding maintenance tags to an article is a good way to highlight specific issues that need to be addressed. The tag was even removed with such a request ( here), which you ignored when you replaced the tag. That's edit warring. I have not reviewed the debate, and have no position on the issue of whether the content is or is not OR, POV, or Unbalanced - and you may have good arguments to show that those concerns have merit. But disruptively adding the tags repeatedly, when consensus is that they do not apply, and doing so without engaging other editors who ask for more specific information, is highly disruptive, and nothing in your unblock request offers a reason to lift the block. Declined. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 15:01, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
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I don't see what my past behavior has to do with anything, especially when it dates back three years. This is about whether or not adding warning tags to a contentious article is against the rules and merits a month-long block. Yes, I've had disputes and disagreements with other editors (who hasn't?), and no, I'm not the nicest guy in the world during these heated debates (which is not necessarily equivalent to incivility), but the fact remains that I've never been sanctioned for anything before. Up until these two recent (and unjustified) blocks, my record was
clean. The only reason there's been so much focus on me lately is that a particular editor (
Muntuwandi/Wapondaponda) has been forum shopping trying to have me blocked and my sources prohibited because I vigorously challenge his OR and POV (he's doing it again right now in this thread).
Which brings me to why I'm insisting on the warning tags. The article in question has a long and storied history. It started out as Sub-Saharan DNA admixture in Europe, which was recently deleted, with the consensus being that its contents should be merged in abbreviated form into Genetic history of Europe. So the content dispute continued there. Then, just two weeks later, Muntuwandi recreated the article, going against the consensus and Wikipedia policy. Well, Mangojuice alluded to what happened next with the new AfD and subsequent DRV, but I maintain that the article was saved on a technicality, which is an absurd reason, and that the original consensus that the subject isn't notable enough to be treated separately still stands. Point is, the same content has been discussed ad nauseam on multiple talk pages and in two deletion discussions. Thus, I've made my concerns perfectly clear over and over again, especially regarding Muntuwandi's OR and POV, which I'm by no means alone in recognizing. Causteau, Jingiby, The Ogre, Victorius III, AnwarSadatFan and Hxseek have all reverted and/or expressed concerns about his edits (and I'm sure there have been others as well). Just ask former Admin William M. Connolley, who noticed this pattern too.
And since we're going after people for their past behavior, let it be known that Muntuwandi has a terrible record and that he's created a whopping 76 sockpuppets to try to circumvent his many blocks. He's currently on 1RR probation, which he violates constantly, but no one does anything about it. Why he's allowed free reign while I'm blocked for adding a measly (and totally justified) warning tag to his biased article boggles my mind. And it should boggle yours too. ---- Small Victory ( talk) 13:29, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
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@ UltraExactZZ - Since when does a single individual constitute a consensus? Other editors had left most of my warning tags in place. Even RoySmith didn't remove them at first. It was only Andrew Lancaster doing that. So you're wrong about there being a "consensus...that they do not apply". If anything, Lancaster was the one going against consensus and being disruptive. Regardless, if it's edit warring that I'm now being punished for, then the other participant should be punished too. Lancaster's request for specific information is a disingenuous ploy to get away with reverting my edits. As I said, I've been debating the same content with him (and others) for the past several months. I've expressed numerous concerns about it, both general and specific, at that article's talk page, at other talk pages and at deletion discussions. He has all the information he needs. He just chooses to ignore it. ----
Small Victory (
talk)
13:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)