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New York Court of Appeals Building have been undone because they appeared to be promotional.
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2406:3003:2077:1E60:EDE9:C688:2C0C:D5F5 (
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2406:3003:2077:1E60:5AE8:494B:5A6F:C529 (
talk) 02:09, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Is it possible to get a second set of eyes on this decision? The material within the article is outdated. If it was warranted to include what windows were used in the original building, I do not see how it is soapboxing, advertising, or promotion to say how they were changed and by who.
- These sentences seem comparable:
- " Lewis Pilcher oversaw a rear addition in the early 20th century when the courtroom was moved as it had outgrown its traditional space in the capitol"
- "Just to its south, visible from the Court of Appeals building through Corning Park behind City Hall, is St. Peter's Episcopal Church, a French Gothic-style edifice by Richard Upjohn and his son. "
- "an 1815 stone Federal-style work by Philip Hooker that now serves as administrative offices of the City School District of Albany."
- Can you explain further what specifically needs to be changed? I will make the updates.
Smalby123 (
talk) 02:34, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- You've been inserting inappropriate
external links to promote Ed Page and his business. The language is not
neutral, containing
puffery such as
magnificent mahogany interiors
. The added content goes into excessively fine detail about the window design as well as putting undue emphasis (e.g.the only fenestration engineer with the design and manufacturing experience to meet this challenge
) on Ed Page, who isn't the primary subject of the article. - Your additions to the article are not comparable to the examples you quoted above. Those people mentioned are notable architects who have their own articles about them, who had contributed to the design of large portions of the structure; this is highly pertinent in this article about a building listed in the National Register of Historic Places.
- You will need to present independent, secondary, reliable sources that support the addition of content about the windows being replaced with a different design. If you do have such sources, I advise you to present them at the teahouse and ask for an opinion from someone else first before proceeding.
- — 2406:3003:2077:1E60:5AE8:494B:5A6F:C529 ( talk) 05:47, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- As the editor who has taken most of the photos in that article and improved it to GA status, I would say that what it needs most for your changes to stand is reliable sources. I don’t mind the additions, since most of the sources (the NRHP nom and Albany Architecture, primarily) I have had to work with over the years on the article date to the late 20th century, and information about any more recent architectural changes is welcome. But we need it to have a reliable, third-party independent source that makes non-trivial mention of the information in question. Daniel Case ( talk) 01:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- You've been inserting inappropriate
external links to promote Ed Page and his business. The language is not
neutral, containing
puffery such as
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UtherSRG
(talk) 15:43, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'm
2406:3003:2077:1E60:EDE9:C688:2C0C:D5F5. I wanted to let you know that one or more of
your recent contributions to
New York Court of Appeals Building have been undone because they appeared to be promotional.
Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "
soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using
independent sources, and from a
neutral perspective. Take a look at the
welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.
2406:3003:2077:1E60:EDE9:C688:2C0C:D5F5 (
talk) 18:32, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to
New York Court of Appeals Building. While
objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not
a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. This is not the place to boast about the window renovation project or promote the businesses that did it. Content you add must be
verifiable, which means it must be backed up by independent, secondary,
reliable sources through appropriate
citations. You may not add material based on your "
personal experience".
—
2406:3003:2077:1E60:5AE8:494B:5A6F:C529 (
talk) 02:09, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Is it possible to get a second set of eyes on this decision? The material within the article is outdated. If it was warranted to include what windows were used in the original building, I do not see how it is soapboxing, advertising, or promotion to say how they were changed and by who.
- These sentences seem comparable:
- " Lewis Pilcher oversaw a rear addition in the early 20th century when the courtroom was moved as it had outgrown its traditional space in the capitol"
- "Just to its south, visible from the Court of Appeals building through Corning Park behind City Hall, is St. Peter's Episcopal Church, a French Gothic-style edifice by Richard Upjohn and his son. "
- "an 1815 stone Federal-style work by Philip Hooker that now serves as administrative offices of the City School District of Albany."
- Can you explain further what specifically needs to be changed? I will make the updates.
Smalby123 (
talk) 02:34, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- You've been inserting inappropriate
external links to promote Ed Page and his business. The language is not
neutral, containing
puffery such as
magnificent mahogany interiors
. The added content goes into excessively fine detail about the window design as well as putting undue emphasis (e.g.the only fenestration engineer with the design and manufacturing experience to meet this challenge
) on Ed Page, who isn't the primary subject of the article. - Your additions to the article are not comparable to the examples you quoted above. Those people mentioned are notable architects who have their own articles about them, who had contributed to the design of large portions of the structure; this is highly pertinent in this article about a building listed in the National Register of Historic Places.
- You will need to present independent, secondary, reliable sources that support the addition of content about the windows being replaced with a different design. If you do have such sources, I advise you to present them at the teahouse and ask for an opinion from someone else first before proceeding.
- — 2406:3003:2077:1E60:5AE8:494B:5A6F:C529 ( talk) 05:47, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- As the editor who has taken most of the photos in that article and improved it to GA status, I would say that what it needs most for your changes to stand is reliable sources. I don’t mind the additions, since most of the sources (the NRHP nom and Albany Architecture, primarily) I have had to work with over the years on the article date to the late 20th century, and information about any more recent architectural changes is welcome. But we need it to have a reliable, third-party independent source that makes non-trivial mention of the information in question. Daniel Case ( talk) 01:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- You've been inserting inappropriate
external links to promote Ed Page and his business. The language is not
neutral, containing
puffery such as
If you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization, you may request unblock and a username change. In your reasons, you must:
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UtherSRG
(talk) 15:43, 5 September 2023 (UTC)