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WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 20:31, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by WikiOriginal-9 was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
• reliable
• secondary
• independent of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Still need independent, significant coverage. A lot of that stuff is not independent.

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WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 20:59, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Vanderwaalforces was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

No significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable sources.

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Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 22:20, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Stuartyeates was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent of the subject
  

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 The comment the reviewer left was:

This would need much more significant independent seocndary sources of the company as a company.

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Stuartyeates ( talk) 03:20, 11 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Tagishsimon was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent of the subject
  

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 The comment the reviewer left was:

Segatari, you need to let us know if you have a conflict of interest and especially is you are being paid for this article.

There seems to be only one ref which leads to a "news" story about the company (ref 5) and that is an a B2B (aka SEO journalism) publication and so is not a reliable source.

If this is the best you have then I really do not think this article is going to be promoted. You've submitted it 5 times and got the same response each time. Not all companies get a wikipedia article.

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Tagishsimon ( talk) 00:24, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Hi! I am in no way shape or form related to ETC and neither am I getting any form of payment for this. I'm just trying to translate the existing Wikipedia page for this from German to English.

I've verified and while it's true that the website cited in ref 5 will publish just about anything a business asks them to, that article was redacted by the website's staff, I really want to get this Wikipedia page out there, I want to hyperlink it to some other pages I'm planning on creating. Ref 8, Ref 11, Ref 16 and Ref 17 all seem to match the criterias, though once again, I'm a bit of a newbie here so I'm still figuring things out haha

Thanks Segatari ( talk) 03:38, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Utopes was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent of the subject
  

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 The comment the reviewer left was:

Apart from the passing mentions, run-of-the-mill coverage, and articles created in association with the company present in the sources, there really is no need to have the subject's own website as reference 6 times.

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Utopes _{( talk / cont)} 04:12, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply

I'm so sorry! I'm still very new to Wikipedia and hadn't read the criterias for "notability", I will try to find news reports that match these criterias. That said, I don't understand why my article is getting denied, I'm just translating the Wikipeda page written in German, why is it accepted in that language but when I translate it isn't.? Segatari ( talk) 04:28, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Vanderwaalforces was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Is still don’t see no significant coverage to establish notability.

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Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 19:09, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Electronic Theatre Controls. Thanks! - Rich ^{T| C| E-Mail} 20:25, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply

hiii!! thank you so much for taking the time to write a thorough answer! i've reached out to the help chat and i'm confident that the revised version will be okay! I've included a product review (along with other references that I don't think will suffice for notability) and it meets all criteria needed for a product review to be eligible for notability, Thank you! Segatari ( talk) 03:34, 13 November 2023 (UTC) reply

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Electronic Theatre Controls. Thanks! lizthegrey ( talk) 16:43, 13 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Hi! Thanks! I'm not too sure I understand WP:ORGIND . Is the website I've linked okay? From my understanding, it seems to say that referencing trade magazines is okay, as long as it's independent. Ref. 21 does appear to be independent, and the publisher also has a Wikipedia page. Do I need to take any more action for it to be approved? Thanks! Segatari ( talk) 00:22, 14 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Wisconsin State Journal looks to be solid independent, reliable coverage. I'm just leery of using Lighting and Sound International reviews of a singular product to show notability of the company (e.g. just because a pub has an article doesn't mean it's accepted as reliable, see WP:RSN and WP:RSP - for instance CoinDesk exists because secondary sourcing exists about it, but per WP:COINDESK it's not considered reliable as a source itself). Likewise, I fear LEDs Magazine and TheatreCrafts are probably trade. the WISC piece is good, so that definitely is a second ORGCRIT hit far as I'm concerned. It's close to the line! Close enough I didn't feel comfortable signing off on it as a newer AfC reviewer but I'm sure someone will come through in the next week or so and give you a thumbs up or down. Some advice to you: less is more; trim back the timeline of acquisitions/heavy reliance on primary sourcing and focus just on what you can write based on the WI state journal and WISC articles. You can continue editing/improving even while waiting for review so I suggest you do that. lizthegrey ( talk) 03:25, 14 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Lightoil was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.

Lightoil ( talk) 19:12, 14 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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